Let's Talk with Carl Lee - Pat Carter on Golf and Grit, Plus Tough Talk on Accountability and Change

On this episode of Let’s Talk with Carl Lee, West Virginia amateur golf great and WVGA executive Pat Carter joins Carl, Hollis, and Lisa for a focused conversation on the growth of golf in the state, junior development, access to the game, and how humility and preparation shape champions. After Carter exits, the discussion turns raw and reflective as the hosts dig into deeper issues affecting families and communities: the collapse of accountability, the myth of community as a cure-all, and how blame culture stalls real progress. Carl, Lisa, and Hollis speak frankly about parenting, structure, emotional honesty, and the generational habits we’re passing down. It’s about sports, but it’s also about truth, responsibility, and what it really takes to grow—whether you're raising kids or chasing a championship.