EPISODE · Jul 25, 2024 · 28 MIN
Liquidity Crunch Fuels $100Bn Secondary Market: Here's What You Need To Know
from Billion Dollar Moves™ with Sarah Chen-Spellings | Global Venture Capital · host Sarah Chen-Spellings
"Secondaries are just deals with a discount?" Think again. In this episode, we explore how the secondary market has surged to a staggering $100 billion in transaction volume, driven by the pressing need for liquidity. Featuring Martin Fleischer, Principal of Coller Capital, and Ku Kay-Mok, Senior Partner at Gobi Partners, we talked about the explosive growth of continuation vehicles and the challenges general partners (GPs) face in navigating this dynamic market. Tune in now as we unravel the complexities of the secondary market, its great opportunities, and the strategic moves that can make or break investment portfolios in these volatile times. TIMESTAMPS / KEY TAKEAWAYS 0:00 - Intro 02:04 - Introduction: Martin Fleischer, Coller Capital & Ku Kay-Mok, Gobi Partners 04:20 - What really is the secondaries opportunity? The 100bn secondaries transaction volume driven by liquidity 06:18 - Structures for LPs and GPs in secondaries; the market growth of continuation vehicles 08:41 - Challenges for GPs in secondaries: pricing and carry split 10:20 - “I think we are the necessity in this market; people want liquidity for various reasons”; CV as the third exit route for GPs 12:50 - GP’s view: structuring exits; “theme is important for VC”; being strategic with co-investors and building liquidity 15:17 - “Be patient if you don't want to sell”; price drop in consumer space and outdated valuations 17:09 - Discount premium, implied valuation multiples, patient capital, and plans to drive returns 19:51 - “The secondary market will become more and more specialized”; “the biggest constraint is capital” 22:41 - Advice for LPs building base in the Nordics; re-industrialization and opportunities in global south - Arctic15 LP Summit 2024 PANEL: Secondaries & Exits for This Venture Cycle Martin Fleischer - Principal, Coller Capital Ku Kay-Mok - Senior Partner, Gobi Partners Moderator: Sarah Chen-Spellings - Co-Founder & Managing Partner, Beyond The Billion - PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://billiondollarmoves.com Watch on Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/sarahchenglobal Join the community: https://sarah-chen.ck.page/billiondollarmoves FOLLOW SARAH: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/sarahchenglobal Instagram: https://instagram.com/sarahchenglobal Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahchenglobal
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"Secondaries are just deals with a discount?" Think again. In this episode, we explore how the secondary market has surged to a staggering $100 billion in transaction volume, driven by the pressing need for liquidity. Featuring Martin Fleischer, Principal of Coller Capital, and Ku Kay-Mok, Senior Partner at Gobi Partners, we talked about the explosive growth of continuation vehicles and the challenges general partners (GPs) face in navigating this dynamic market. Tune in now as we unravel the complexities of the secondary market, its great opportunities, and the strategic moves that can make or break investment portfolios in these volatile times. TIMESTAMPS / KEY TAKEAWAYS 0:00 - Intro 02:04 - Introduction: Martin Fleischer, Coller Capital & Ku Kay-Mok, Gobi Partners 04:20 - What really is the secondaries opportunity? The 100bn secondaries transaction volume driven by liquidity 06:18 - Structures for LPs and GPs in secondaries; the market growth of continuation vehicles 08:41 - Challenges for GPs in secondaries: pricing and carry split 10:20 - “I think we are the necessity in this market; people want liquidity for various reasons”; CV as the third exit route for GPs 12:50 - GP’s view: structuring exits; “theme is important for VC”; being strategic with co-investors and building liquidity 15:17 - “Be patient if you don't want to sell”; price drop in consumer space and outdated valuations 17:09 - Discount premium, implied valuation multiples, patient capital, and plans to drive returns 19:51 - “The secondary market will become more and more specialized”; “the biggest constraint is capital” 22:41 - Advice for LPs building base in the Nordics; re-industrialization and opportunities in global south - Arctic15 LP Summit 2024 PANEL: Secondaries & Exits for This Venture Cycle Martin Fleischer - Principal, Coller Capital Ku Kay-Mok - Senior Partner, Gobi Partners Moderator: Sarah Chen-Spellings - Co-Founder & Managing Partner, Beyond The Billion - PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://billiondollarmoves.com Watch on Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/sarahchenglobal Join the community: https://sarah-chen.ck.page/billiondollarmoves FOLLOW SARAH: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/sarahchenglobal Instagram: https://instagram.com/sarahchenglobal Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahchenglobal
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