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EPISODE · Jun 23, 2026 · 20 MIN

Lisa Riegel: How to Lead Through Change Without Burning Out the People You Need Most

from The Human Connection Podcast

"A missed opportunity in a lot of organizations is for true collective shared decision making. The problem is we ask people for their feedback on things we've already decided — so they don't have a voice." That's Lisa Riegel — PhD, neuroscientist, author of five books, and someone who has spent two decades watching companies spend thousands on wall hangings with their values on them while their promotion decisions tell employees exactly what they actually value.Here's the number that should reframe your Q3 people strategy: two-thirds of the American workforce is currently burnt out and disengaging. Not dissatisfied. Not looking around. Burnt out — meaning the executive functions that drive your team's best work aren't firing, which means the change initiatives, the AI rollouts, and the culture transformations you're running right now are landing on brains that are already in survival mode. Lisa's work sits at the intersection of brain science and organizational systems, and her message to the C-suite is direct: the human system isn't soft. It's the infrastructure everything else runs on — and most executives were never taught how to build it.What executives take away from this conversation:Why your culture initiative is failing before it starts — culture isn't words on a wall or swag with your values printed on it; it's who you promote, what behavior you tolerate, and how you lead on a Tuesday afternoon when nothing is on fireThe four types of talking every leader needs to know — directives, data analysis, dialog, and discussion each serve a different purpose in a meeting; conflating them is why your people leave your all-hands more confused and less committed than when they walked inWhat your AI rollout is actually doing to your team's identity — when you automate a process, you don't just change a workflow; you strip someone of their expert status and tell them they're a novice again; understanding that transition through neuroscience changes how you manage it#H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #ClientRetention===You can connect with Lisa Riegel here:www.lisariegel.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/www.epinstitute.netwww.jakapa.comAmazon author pageYou can connect with Karl Pontau here:www.vouchedconnections.comwww.thehumanconnectionpodcast.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontauhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

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