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EPISODE · Mar 21, 2026 · 22 MIN

Listening First, Leading Better

from Friends from Wild Places · host Shireen Botha/Tanya Scotece ft Michael Perie

What if the fastest way to lead better is to talk less and listen more? Michael of MP Educates joins us to share how intentional listening, humble feedback, and clear boundaries helped him grow as a father, pastor, mortuary professional, and educator—without burning out. His story begins with a hard truth: answering before someone finishes speaking isn’t leadership, it’s fear. By slowing down and watching for nonverbal cues, he built trust, learned what actually works, and made smarter choices under pressure.Michael PerieWebsite: http://www.mp-educates.com/Email: [email protected]: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-perie-0902025a/For entrepreneurs ready to launch, Michael offers simple, decisive guidance: gather information first and keep learning as you grow. Know the true costs, prepare for the surprises, and let research shape your roadmap. That discipline pays off when you step into ownership; you’ll be solving problems with a reservoir of hard-won knowledge rather than guesswork. We also spotlight IHG Missions, the nonprofit he and his wife lead in Memphis. Their essentials bags—socks, toiletries, warm gear, encouragement notes, and even cash—center dignity and choice. Michael’s take on giving is refreshingly direct: give from a generous heart and trust the act to do good.Join us as we support In His Grace Ministries this month!We close with what’s next: a home studio to improve livestream quality and presentation, plus expanded MP Educates seminars and online CEUs that make professional growth more accessible. If you’re navigating multiple callings or just starting out, this conversation offers an honest blueprint—listen first, set boundaries you’ll honor, prepare like it matters, and serve people by name. If this resonates, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a quick review so more listeners can find stories like this.Send us Fan MailBuzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched!Start for FREEShireen's Bookkeeping Services LLCOutsourcing your bookkeeping to Shireen’s Bookkeeping Services can save you time and money.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showStay Wild!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@friendsfromwildplacesWebsite: https://friendsfromwildplaces.buzzsprout.com/Itunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/friends-from-wild-places/id1619076023Twitter: https://twitter.com/FFWP_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/friendsfromwildplacespodcastLeave a review!

What if the fastest way to lead better is to talk less and listen more? Michael of MP Educates joins us to share how intentional listening, humble feedback, and clear boundaries helped him grow as a father, pastor, mortuary professional, and educator—without burning out. His story begins with a hard truth: answering before someone finishes speaking isn’t leadership, it’s fear. By slowing down and watching for nonverbal cues, he built trust, learned what actually works, and made smarter choice...

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