The Body Speaks a Language Older Than Words

In this heartfelt and insightful conversation, Janina Fisher, PhD sits down with Licia Sky, somatic educator and co-founder of the Trauma Research Foundation, to explore the living wisdom of the body and what it truly means to “listen within.”Together, they trace how Western culture’s disconnection from embodiment has shaped therapy — and how reclaiming a felt relationship with our bodies changes everything. Licia shares how curiosity, movement, and breath create safety and connection in the therapy room, and why therapists must first cultivate an intimate relationship with their own bodies before guiding others.Through stories, laughter, and grounded wisdom, Janina and Licia illuminate the subtle dance between mind and body, the courage it takes to feel, and the healing that emerges when we meet ourselves — and our clients — through sensation rather than story.Key Takeaways (for YouTube, Spotify, Apple):Why “the body keeps the score” is only the beginning — and how to truly access the body’s language How therapists can model embodiment through self-attunement and curiosityThe difference between talking about emotions and feeling them in the body How simple actions — standing, sighing, breathing — can shift state and restore connection The power of vulnerability, mutual regulation, and relational presence in healing workWhy grief, shame, and love all live in the body — and what changes when we listenLicia Sky, Co-Founder, Trauma Research Foundation: https://traumaresearchfoundation.orgBio Licia SkyLicia Sky is the Co-founder of the Trauma Research Foundation. She is a somatic educator, artist, singer-songwriter, and bodyworker who works with traumatized individuals and trains mental health professionals to use mindful meditation in movement, theater exercises, writing, and voice as tools for attunement, healing, and connection. She is a regular instructor in trauma healing workshops at Cape Cod Institute, Kripalu, and Esalen. For the past decade, she has been teaching expanded awareness in workshops to clinicians and laypeople around the world.