Welcome to the low post hoop collective live stream. I don't even know what else the Boston Celtics have won banner 18 Blowing out to Dallas Mavericks the confetti is on the floor people are celebrating everywhere the drinks are flowing and Brian Windhorst. I have one thing I want to start with remember before the season Calvin Booth gave some comments about you know I don't know about repeating. We want to win Hey, I'm Celtics.
Hey, you faking Lakers. Bye. Bye. We'll see you later Cedric Maxwell, which you did to me last time worthy.
This one doing you now night night See you later. Bye. Bye. Do you not kick anything over this time?
No, I'm not kicking anything over. I'm just trying to say this team is set up This is the crazy thing about this team is to sit up right now the way Brad Stevens has it They'll be in the mix again for the next couple years They need it to rake through they broke through and they'll be more relaxed and people right now be more confident It's good as they were. I saw both of you guys talk about from time to time of sand And they put on the record that was unbelievable But nobody believed them. I will not let you be smurched me Cedric Maxwell I picked the Celtics to win the championship before the season We had a segment on NBA today where someone asked the question was how many Western conference teams can beat the Celtics in a playoff series I said zero said it doesn't matter what was said.
Once you're the champs for the champs forever You know and is great and I have to say this the guy I feel worse about is maybe Marcus Martin Because Marcus Martin was part of you know what this organization was all about And he isn't here to celebrate this is but then again through holiday came in many he fit like a Cedric was a good train. It was I think I think it was a good train. I just said I feel sorry But the fact that Marcus was one of those pieces that was here that was plain I understand about the trade and the results are you can't argue with the results When the championship but leaving them damn fakers behind Oh my god people in LA right now they're jumping off a frickin bridges Another Laker around worthy Barren Scott Cooper magic. I go down the line and hold on.
Let me say this wordy Cedric Maxwell he made my point for me. My point is this 64 wins 16 and 3 in a playoffs plus 11 point differential in the regular season Plus 8 in the playoffs by any measure It is a all-time single-season accomplishment people are gonna say oh they had an easy road to the finals everybody got injured All of that is fair when you try and place any context But here's what I'm saying if you're the Celtics I want you to come out and say six straight champions now without a repeat. That's our goal I want you to lean all the way into it. We want the repeat stated on the record Don't do it to nuggets to be like I don't repeat like we want to win multiple championships like this first If you break the no-repeat streak next year, they're gonna enter the season as favorites Then there is no dispute about your place in modern basketball history.
Yeah, but I don't honestly I don't really want to let them It's so hard to win forget about a repeat right now. It's so hard to win We were here on this floor two years ago with the confetti and it was no confetti no confetti No confetti always confetti and it was misery because they were head to one of that series They lost on their home court last year game seven against the heat had a great chance to get to the finals lost on their home court I remember being here in game seven in 2018 Uncle Jeff Green game LeBron had a brilliant game had 40 played all 48 minutes lost on their home court I know that the players on the team changed a little bit the coaching situation was definitely changed a little bit Brad Stevens took over a lot of things happen But that is all part of this all is all part of it And so they need to celebrate what this is which is the end of a journey that really started in 2013 When they made the peers scarnet trade and think about everything they went through and that stretch remember They went all in to get Kevin Durant and they thought they had a chance and then he you know, you know They allegedly finished second. I don't know and then they then they finally you know They had the Kyrie trade and it didn't work and then they made you doka thing fell apart They a lot of different times where it was where it was a great opportunity and they just couldn't finish so now that they have finished They must be celebrated use of the rules on draft night in 2013. There were two huge trades in the NBA Pearson Garnet to Brooklyn those picks became Tatum and Brown drew holiday got traded from Philadelphia to New Orleans beginning the process Then he was the missing piece of Milwaukee now He's the missing piece here and you're right to look at the journey because you have the Kyrie Hayward sliding doors moment of like what of Gordon Hayward never gets hurt like what does that do to do?
But what do we got we got we got one zero Michael come and then that era goes bus and I keep saying this We thought you already mentioned the Warriors finals the heat conference finals three years ago This was a 500 team that got obliterated in the first round by the next alleged super team in Brooklyn They're Ross around Tatum and Brown was a mess Danny Ain steps down Brad Steven steps down and steps up and they completely remake the team Highlighted by four four trades step one was bring out Horford back and everyone in the entire freaking NBA is thrill for all Horford I'm thrilled for all of her 17 years call me bias. I want I'm thrilled for all over he got He had some miserable not him personally, but they was in Atlanta and they were getting swept They had good teams just weren't even close to good enough, you know, like when he went to Philly He thought that was gonna be a great opportunity like he had some bitter ends the seasons Derek white master stroke drew holiday Like he's gonna need our says they're coming on to the floor is the head coach Joe Missoula who? Got a lot of criticism last year. I thought most of it was frankly unfair.
He's kind of a mad scientist His way worked and there he's doing some interviews. It's madness. It's madness. It's a live stream is madness They just won the championship Jackie McMullen Jackie Mac.
Do you want to stop by and say hello? This is a lot. This is a live stream. This is both of I think it's fair to say you are a hero to both of us You mean a lot to both of us you could help here Jackie sit down don't sit sit Boston legend She said she's a true hoop collective legend channel seven.
It's like What do you use this Mike? How about that does that sound? Yes, Jackie, you're supposed to be retired I know but this was too good to pass up. Honestly I was I was retired and this my friend Coon worked at Channel 7 when I worked for us I used to do stuff for them to you know on the weekends and whatever you said why don't you come back?
And I said I haven't been around the team in three years I'm I'd be such a front-runner and they're like well, we'll pay you and I'm like, okay But no, they're great friends, and it's been really fun because I got to come to games I got to see everybody again, and it's been very enjoyable This is um, we're just saying how much of a journey this has been for this team and you've been oh god Yeah, it really has been I was saying to someone tonight I'm like, you know I was with Mike's Erin game 7 when they lost to the Cleveland Cavaliers series And I was having trouble in my neck and I literally had to go lie down in this room because I couldn't sit up anymore I was in real pain and Kevin Love was in there because he was injured had him get a concussion remember at the end of the game Mike's Erin the assistant She and walked into that room took all this blazer and threw it against the wall because they almost won that series And that was the story of their lives for a bunch of years They almost won and the truth was they really weren't a complete enough team to win and in talking to pags tonight See Paluco one of the owners training Marcus smart, you know It kind of put this city in shock a little bit, but we all knew right We all knew what it meant because we knew Drew Holliday and we knew what Porsingas would do and all the dominoes that fell from that deal And they had to change what they were to get here They had to they had to change their identity and they did and that comes such a great trade They got the you know they got the picks and the player. No, it's unbelievable And you know Drew Holliday, I tell this story. I'm gonna tell it again to you guys my daughter's getting married We were in the fitting room She was getting fitted for her wedding gown and I was there with my mother my sister her best friend We're all like ridiculous basketball fans and she's trying on these dresses and we're all sitting there smiling and someone texted us The Celtics just traded for Drew Holliday, so we're like little bitty's going super spring to my daughter's like why are they being so rude? This is like my moment.
They're supposed to be it's so then when the woman left she said what the hell's wrong with you guys and we said no It's okay. They traded for Drew Holliday. She understood where I remember Jack I remember coming here for media day remember the holiday trade happened the day before right I went to media day And I I watched I mean obviously I knew it was on the team But I watched all these players come up on the yeah, so I was like damn That's a hell of a team. I'm like they're gonna win a ton of games I know where I picked him to win a championship the minute they got drawn out.
I was like the best He's the adult in the room man. He's the don't room and yet don't they were missing He was great in every game that mattered and that includes some regular season games or they would go into these malaise And they would have these crazy things happen and he was the guy that just always settled them He's the king of hockey assists I don't care how many assists they say he had he's the guy that set the screen or made the extra pass or made the little deflection That so someone else could get the steal. He sacrificed a lot for this team a lot of shots a lot of points a lot of I remember there was a radio station doing unnamed here in Boston one day They said of the starting five of the Celtics, you know, which is the worst player and they're like oh, it's true holiday And I was like your guys are idiots You know you're a bunch of idiots. I'm sorry.
He was awesome tonight He was in the tone slipping screens making all the hundred percent loose balls getting rebounds They were like they really went out for the boys like they were going after loose balls like their life depended right No, that's it and you know what this team when they won the rebound game. They won games I thought it was interesting in the first three four minutes You guys have seen this a thousand times. It's a big game Everyone's jacked up and you know Dr Who's used to say about a Kevin granted I never ran a play from the first eight minutes of a playoff game because he'd break the backboard because he was so hyped up And I felt that both team and Brown were that way in the first nine right? They were in the first few minutes, but not holiday not him in he's coming in just being true being the it's out in the room So you've seen three eras of Celtics championships obviously bird McHale in the 80s then the big three right 2000s and now in the 20s this team Yeah, very different teams all of the sure yeah And I mean someone just said to me how would they compare to say the bird era and I'm like well that team is tough They were one of the toughest group of guys ever seen the game was played so differently as you guys know so physical and all that But this team I mean historically and historic offense never seen before and they drove me crazy because there were a lot of ups and downs But people forget and you guys don't with the KG Ray Allen Paul Pierce group They went to game seven against the Atlanta Hawks like can you imagine if they lost that series how history about them with the cast the next Right lost every road game against Atlanta right so think about that and how history could change things for you And for these guys in the early years, that's what history did to them They didn't win games.
They should have taken care of but now they have and you know people talk about well They've been in the finals this many times and this I'm like they were 12 I mean, you know, they were just learning to take them around her 26 and 27 right now right now I like they have all the pieces they need to go for it again, but to your point Let's let's basket is for a second because I think you just waxed one about drew holiday Mm-hmm every single Derek white shot in this series felt like a gut punch to the matter hundred percent Today 31 points 11 assists just kept on driving to the basket over and over and over gonna make it the right play And then halfway through you're like wait a second is he gonna back door into the body of the VP There's like well Jalen Brown was good the first we have well, maybe you can get your shoe holiday And that's what the Celtics are that's like great is that they have like five of the 40 best players in the game for zingus when he played I think played 59 minutes in a series. They were plus whatever I think he had a hole, but he was awesome I think in the 59 plates played he had more points than Al Horford and Xavier Tillman combined and they played a lot more minutes I mean, he was so important to how they space the floor. We are burying the lead We are burying the lead The lead is I think paint and picture discovered like a new role in the NBA like is he the equivalent of the left-handed relief picture He gets one guy out. Yeah, it was incredible.
They bring him in for one play and he makes another half for me I've let it call them the heave God. He's all he's the who is there anyone in the conversation Jerry West because he made the one that Tied the game at the end of this is unbelievable I can't think about him last year at this time in February you want to be traded is like I don't have a role in this team I don't want to be here. No, he has a role It's just coming at the end of every how and you know he played more in the other series He's important to them right no, but what I'm saying is like Brad's team said I'm not gonna trade you because I believe in you and I know you think I don't but there's gonna be a role For you on this team everything Brad Stevens did turn to gold everything I'm starting with trade for Derek Why he was hiding in the back I know he didn't want to be seen by all rights He should have been standing up there next to wick Reesbach and next to Joe Missoula because he was a guy putting together But that's not who he is. No, definitely not.
He is as on as a hot of a streak as he is But think about him too. He's the other guy that was always oh so close as much of the Celtics and at Butler So I'm so happy for him too. He brings it across. I was still hoping that Gordon Hayward shot went in, you know Looks right online.
Yeah, if they had paid for sure would have made it. Oh, there you go. Well said well said Zach Well said absolutely correct. Well Jackie.
Thanks for stopping by. Oh, it's my pleasure. No, I helped it Yeah, go here. I lost my no.
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I was just saying Derek. Why it's gonna need hours of dental surgery You got slammed onto the floor. Oh my god It was the most ambitious hit he didn't even miss a beat his face his teeth are so messed up like it's all broken It's it's I'm a man. They were going I mean their defense as sexy as their offense was all your the bedrock of this team equally if not more was Defense every game every night and they just smothered with the exception of one game Which was such a dramatic blowout at completely warped their point difference over the line I know they just like absolutely smothered the Mavericks.
Yeah, they were just so much better We're all bearing the other lead. I don't think pain pitchers the lead. No, I'm being facetious We should talk about how Kyrie Irving was awful again in Boston. I mean awful missed good shots miss bad shots totally out of sorts Yeah, it's a thing.
Yeah, there's no question. He's lost 13 straight games here or something like that and You know, he doesn't need to prove anything. You know, he's a Hall of Famer if he doesn't play another game But oh no question about that This was this was not good And I know that he showed you incredible sportsmanship at the end and hugged everybody and gave you that he had a very good post-game press conference Where he was very contrite and everything but this was not good for him No, and I also will say I Still don't know what would happen in the series the boss. I'll explain it no matter what I still don't know what would happen in the series if Luca doesn't foul out with four minutes in game three That game we just won't know the swings of emotion in game three from Third quarter may be the best quarter Boston.
I think it was Lee 29 21 21 91 70 and third quarter was like Tatum and Brown are finding each other on cuts. They look like LeBron and Wade It's like this is the Celtics given the stakes. This is the best quarter They've ever played maybe fourth quarter. It's like oh, maybe this is also still the Celtics And then they they just find a way to hold on to the game with Luca on the bench right four minutes left It's a long time 93 90.
I didn't think they were gonna win the game I it felt like oh my god They're gonna fall all the way from ahead 50 50 at best at that point and honestly since maverick's were on a 22 run And at home I'd almost swing 60 40 Dallas's way so he fells out And so then it's 2-1 and we don't know what happens in game 4 Celtics could have this game in game 4. He'd come back here 3-1 and had us anyway We will never know what happened if that had if he had not felled out of the game and that if you're gonna if you're gonna focus on Kairi Just not getting it done here in Boston having three dog games You have to focus and by the way Luca Luca could not make a three He came into the game tonight on a he was like one of 20 or something too little too late at the end He took like his first three shots were like out of rhythm three pointers I thought he had I thought he had I thought was a completely wrong mindset start the game I mean, that's not why they lost I'm just saying completely wrong complete wrong He came out in game 4 with just like a pristine mindset. He didn't complain the officials tonight. That was good He got back on defense.
That was good But he had the wrong offensive mindset and that you know that hurt because you know Because Boston got off to a very cold start and the Mavericks couldn't really take advantage of it And so the Celtics never felt the pressure I thought it was important for Boston to get off to a good start even though the man's got it back to one or whatever to I Was worried that what happens if this is 19 to 8? Mavs, you know eight minutes into the game. What is this crowd gonna be like? What is the mood gonna be like?
But it wasn't they got off to a good start. What's up Dave? Congratulations. Dave Lewin, assistant GM.
We would interview him, but they're not allowed to talk to media. No, he's he fled to see him with his champagne goggles on as he should quickly. How do you how do you want to talk about this team like historically? 64 wins 16 and three of the playoffs is up there with one of the best playoff records of all time like one of the five or six Plus 11 point differential in the regular season one of the best of all time plus eight in the playoffs Not one of the best of all time, but very very good.
They have every they have every metric of an all-time great single season team They're not gonna be considered I think quite at that level and I think that's okay But the numbers are beyond dispute our friend Bill Simmons He wrote this book about 10 or 12 years ago called the book of basketball It was meticulously researched and I loved reading it except for one part where he went like championship by championship and through Asterix's can't do it on various things and it really is one of those things that really like triggers me because Championships are so hard to win that you never ever ever ever ever apologize We have to make an agreement you and I have to make an agreement that we will never ever Minimize this championship because I've never minimized any championship. Why haven't either and I just like I'm making like a point here I'm not saying you're actually gonna do it It's a compliment to the Celtics that we're asking the question because what we're really asking is when you start stacking up The 10 12 15 greatest team since the merger. Where is this team? You know, I mean that's the question for example everybody down plays the bubble They all they all get this and that's face and I just am not here for it And like just the other day and beads on countdown and he's saying well everybody was hurt Which is fine?
Joel and B can say whatever he wants, but like the Lakers fans can complain about it because it's a tough day to be a Lakers fan But come on we have to as a basketball community We have to recognize that the injuries would not have stopped this team if everybody played everybody healthy Okay, maybe it's not 16 and 3 but you're not stopping this team do not I know I'm saying this to you But I don't I'm not directing this at you. Yes, a personal attack do not I won't stand for anybody minimizing everyone here that Brian We're gonna stand for it. It's you throw an asterisk on this You throw a semi-assery throw a semi-colon even I'm gonna go points on asterisk You throw one point of an asterisk on there. I don't like it.
I totally agree with you This is a this is a great single-season team by the numbers It's in an echelon where I can't quite get it get there because those teams that are in that echelon We're here multiple times over a long period of time and they beat great great teams And that's what but this team that's my point They could just be just starting like it if you repeat or repeat changes everything I know but I don't want to talk about I do because that's that's the kind of discussion that this team was so dominant all year long That it should trigger that kind of because again that implies that unless they repeat It's not no no not at all. They're a great single-season team I just think they have they have a little entryway into some pretty goddamn hallowed conversations I will say this if Denver was in this series. We'd still be playing They didn't play the team again Denver was the only team all year but they didn't manage they were owing to against them Look Denver didn't get here. I'm not saying you know Denver didn't get to handle their business They lost a freaking game seven on their home court.
They didn't belong here But like before you know me again. I don't mean you necessarily before any a year ago We thought well Denver when we were on that court in Denver, you know, we thought well, they're gonna be back again So I don't it's never that's why this is six straight. Well five straight impending Mike's Aaron. What's your what's your title these days?
Well, vice champion basketball something can be a champion. This is your father That's nice to you to say here's what people need to know that's not true. I don't believe that I don't believe that for one second I don't believe that for one second. Um, you are the you are truly one of the biggest Celtic fans Like generally a fan you work for a team, but you're generally genuinely a fan I got brainwashed by this guy next to me when I was three or four years old and it's been all great and all the time So tell me about the night in 2013 when you guys made the Garnet peers trade because that that was where this began is crazy night we we worked on that trade for weeks and weeks and weeks and I mean it really only sort of came to fruition like the night before and there were details that day and we had to get KG to agree to but I mean when it was over when you're like, okay We are starting the path that led you to today Well, the other crazy thing was we knew we were changing coaches and so we had sort of got rad to sign up With one team and then suddenly the team is very different and so we had to talk about all of that with him afterwards, but Crazy that night was crazy and you know what you always hope that things like that lean the groundwork for things like this But you can't know well you you the deal was that you got to him in Brown that night I know it I know it was a lot of work between there and then but team was really good until Lopez and Williams got hurt They beat the heat of the net the net the team know they beat the heat though But then that's you're just clarifying.
Yeah, so so they beat the heater were the champions a bunch of times that year But then Lopez and Williams got hurt and Paul and KG were their best two players And that was kind of like us the previous year We thought when we made that trade that like the out pick might be really good But the first few they were gonna be good for a while Nobody could tell you who was there that time that we thought it would work out as well as it did obviously Can I ask you're asking a hard one more now? I got one more now I'm gonna take you forward Take the first person to straight falls apart one year ago like right now you guys are scrambling because for some reason I don't know why it would extend his deadline But he wouldn't you guys had to put that thing together and that's again why you're here those two trades that was big Yeah, like Zaren if we had known at the time we made that trade that we also could get drew It would have been a lot easier. It was hard right and then that was a weird day I won't get into all the details, but it was a weird messy day and at the end of it We had traded for Christops and we knew he would help us and we knew he would improve our team And we knew our offense could be really really good I don't think we thought at the time best in NBA history, but we knew it could be really good, but You know then when the jury trade became available Just it became more clear that the pieces would just fit really really well So you came to games when you were kid at the old garden with your dad Oh, yeah, you know that gave us new seats in this building and we were really new seats for the first half tonight The non-bastful question I want to know that's what I was getting there Um, I don't know how much we've talked a lot about this over the years. I believe you can't of the Warriors Celtic series, right?
And it's it's been an interesting five years in the world Like it was a big deal that you were here tonight I know it was a big deal to Mike that you were here tonight and he got any guy you to sit in the lower bowl tonight We came downstairs for the second half Because your seats have always been upstairs. Yeah, and when you win, you know, you like to wear the same things So that's what you were in 2008 Hoping hoping to see something right no he would have come if we had the chance to win Here's the things Aaron when cover was going on you were you became well-known for your cheering People don't we didn't know that you always cheer like that, but but so How many people who work in a professional sport are really really really invested as fans in that team almost none right? Well, I mean, they're all sort of fans, but none of them cheer not the way this guy is true. That's true You know the thing that's amazing for me always is he works for every last thing he gets and he does it nicely He's not just nice.
I love it. What other teams say that you do it nicely Sometimes the trades work out sometimes they don't but I don't think anybody thinks I don't I mean now I remember in 2022 You were hoping yeah, no listen We lost we lost game 5 in San Francisco And I was in tears in the locker room And everybody thought it was because we lost the game and it was because he hadn't been to a game in three years And we grow I mean like that's like a big part of my life going to self-esteem to my dad And he was just staying at home because of covid and he said if we have a chance to win at home I'll come to the game and so we lost game 5 I knew I wasn't gonna get to sit at a game with him that year and it was it was really really hard for me So this is this is not pretty special for me right here Amazing the other thing is nice is a big part of my family history my dad I sold cars in Belmont was an automobile dealer and I still run into people who he sold their first car and have only nice things to say But and this guy fits that mold and I didn't say he can't be card and and do the business But people like him because he's likable, you know, he's just he's nice. All right Z goes to go celebrate go Yeah, go enjoy congratulations. Congratulations.
It's so expertise and still be nice is very difficult Well, it's very very very very hard to win as you know and so I demand of every team that wins that you must Enjoy it. I know you know in O8. I was so focused the draft was a week away. No, I'm just we take him with 30 What's your draft board at 30 after we won in O8?
I told myself like halfway through the next season shit if we win again, I'm freaking enjoying it Don't you worry go to the party? Thank you guys party is somewhere party is somewhere. I think I know where the party is I don't know if I have to stand out of my old age to try and crash it I crashed the Warriors party a couple years ago. I mean Mike Zarin's been with them for many many many years He looks young but he's I was hoping he would tell the story about game 5 in San Francisco Yeah, what it cost him as a sister over there.
We've we've one of the last people I saw before the world ended In 2020 Sloan Conference 2020 Celtics games 2020. What else should we talk about? I don't know I mean Brad Stevens giving Joe Missoul the job was pretty gutsy because because of because they only Their window is like their window is really sort of two or three years where they could keep the scene together They were never like gonna have to trade him or whatever, but their window is kind of narrow They're spending a little bit more money than they're comfortable spending. It doesn't matter if you win If you win it doesn't matter, but they were trusting a premium team.
I said this before I've used this before I've used this before they were treating a Ferrari to a new driver This was a Ferrari team and Brad Stevens trusted him We could take the metaphor further, but I'm afraid on a live stream that I'll take it in the direction shouldn't go But it was a driver that was very suddenly thrust into the driver's seat of the car under very unusual circumstances And they faced a torrent of criticism. I don't remember. Why was he criticized? I'm not a torrent, but you know, I mean I'll recall him being I mean, maybe my memory is just off.
No, there was definitely a lot of like is this guy really ready Can he go toe-to-toe with spoolstruck and he can this and that and you know, it's just very young and not his experience is some of those guys But he figured out they gave him a team this year That really dovetailed with what he wanted to do as a coach in terms of like play five shooters all the time And that's like they don't have five shooters like four shooters and one guy was kind of a shooter They have like five capital S shooters, and you just need all the way into that Brad Stevens even when they didn't have this kind of a good team even when they were just That's obviously a great team But then they said a good team Brad Stevens always wanted to play his five best players and that's something that Joe Missoula obviously Follow through one There's lots of people smoking cigars. I'm just looking for other people who could just suddenly suddenly crash in here Missoula would be great. I mean Missoula. You just don't know what we can ask him about anything You don't know what where the answer is gonna go.
I think he's a legitimately awesome coach the stuff He does with their defense. He's not afraid to be creative with match ups He's not afraid to do it last time I mean youngest to win a title in your 30s as a head coach I think Bill he and Bill Russell know the two youngest guys and Bill Russell It's not really a fair comparison because he was playing I love watching the steam play. I think they're awesome to watch I think their pieces fit together so beautifully and you know Nit pick their crunch time offense not really this season, but there was always something that people wanted to nitpick it There were sometimes justifications to it, but it's a goddamn great team for sure, and they're very deserving We're gonna wrap this up. What do you think I mean?
They kick us out? They're kicking nobody out tonight, buddy. That's true. We're not going out on those streets.
I hope they've calmed down I'm walking I'm walking through the gauntlet. I mean if I don't go to the party I'm walking through the thing at two o'clock when the bars close. It's gonna be a rough situation here in Boston They wouldn't just keep them open. I don't know man.
You I'm not a bar owner. The Puritans are long gone Let's go you just won the NBA Championship for the 18th time 18 now. We got let's talk about banner 19 It's all about banner 19. So you know it's funny so that so the company that owns the Celtics I apologize for how unhinged this is by the way, but this is good.
This is good This is what we wanted the company that owns a Celtics their own by a company called 17 banners I mean, it's you know this group of owners But they own and when they bought the team they had 16 banners So they wanted they called it 17 banners because they wanted it when they're 17 banner then they won 17 and then it was appropriate 17 banners More hoop collective podcast after this This Anyway, I was telling the story, but it's over. Well, that would be your digraphs What's the name of the company? Right? Some new a new LLC gonna be a new owner of the Celtics I'm going for a long time.
We're about to wrap up. You better bring the heat here What do you got for us? I got Chris that's we're seeing a surgery news. Oh bring it He needs it.
He's gonna have surgery. He's gonna be out for a few months as he told me So much for Latvia's chances of qualifying for the Olympics. Yes, I think that's gonna take me. That's my snap assessment By the way, they have a real beat in Germany.
I know Amazing they have a real they're hosting a qualified all the dabbas Bertons for the three at the end and they should give it to This little guard I can't know they're hosting a qualifier I talked to process about it the other day and I guess there's a chance you could wait I don't I assume he's not gonna be playing for Latvia in that but look like he just said to me I was gonna do whatever I could to play He attacked him. They attacked him tonight, but he held his own look he hit the Josh green hit a couple threes on him But look For saying this a year ago was playing for the Wizards and now he's won a title with the Celtics and we're just talking to Mike Zaren like again that trade fell apart. Yes, the Brogdon trade fell apart. Yes, Mike's Aaron Might have been upset with something I said on first take and called me that morning not happy But by that night they had Chris F.
Worsingus. Well, now they got a champion. It worked out pretty well And they made two trades. I got Chris F.
Worsingus. They got you all a day They got a title and getting those two guys from Marcus part and Malcolm Brogdon and Robert Williams So we haven't talked about this yet. We already talked about all that. That's what I'm cutting you off I'm not sure.
You guys have been here a long time. You had a vote for finals MVP. Yes. Thank you I did the vote I believe was seven to four.
That's what I heard I don't know if that you know what I want you to talk about what your thought process is why verify the vote I mean look I voted for Jalen Brown. I Wanted to vote for both Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown frankly because like every other goddamn Celtics MVP live stream sir There's a it was there in curse literally a flip between the two guys I ultimately went with Jalen Brown because he was playing square good defense on Luke and not your two in the series And he was the more consistent player of between you and Jason Tatum easily could have voted for Jason Tatum And frankly, I think the fact that once again the Celtics did not have an obvious choice for MVP is why they have been the best team in the league This season is why they won the title. They have as deep and versatile and awesome a team as you could probably build frankly in the modern NBA and They are in the position they're in because they have Brad Stevens has done a phenomenal job as their lead executive They have Joe Missoula who's done a phenomenal job over the past two years as a coach and has gotten very little credit for it All the way through I think that will change now and they have a deep versatile roster that can play in any different way And as a lot of guys who sacrificed to get have the official Valley there it is seven to four. Okay, read them off one by one.
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I know I was asking a lot of people I got several two holidays as possible votes. I mean look but again, this is why the Celtics are in the position. They're People put it in table. It's not a wrong answer.
No, there is no wrong answer. That's the whole point. They have an incredible team Also, we were talking to Jeff Wexler. I don't even know if you know about this Jeff Wexler is Jason Tatum's agent He just we wanted to know if we saw the commercial because I hadn't seen it well the first commercial after the championship I think or the trophy was a Jordan Brand commercial with Jason Tatum having voiced it over about and there's a Billboard at the end of it says don't stop disbelieving kind of like a chess beating like take that world commercial and I Jeff didn't elaborate much on it Listen Tatum got up on the podium and I asked him what were you thinking as you're going through the handshake line at the end of the game It's first question the presser and he said Said a few things about how he was trying to wrap his head around it And then he said I had to listen to a lot of the bleep that people said about me over the years and it's all worth it Talk your talk listen that's talk you talk buddy You'd say a lot of things you get create a lot of memes But the smartest thing you've ever said is that if you win a title you never have to say sorry This is a Celtics team that is that they're sorry a lot They've been banging against the door a lot and it's a group of really good guys Well, I've spent a lot of time around I personally like them all a lot And I'm really happy that they have gotten to the mountaintop and they've crossed this off and they're not To use to live here and used to come to 35 or 30 games a year.
I was probably at 30 games this year good road games So we did a segment we were good. I don't know if we did it We were gonna do it on get up earlier this week and the prompt was gonna be What does it mean for Jason Tatum and the Celtics and Jason Tatum's legacy if the Celtics win but he doesn't win finals MVP? And I was like respectfully I think this is a ridiculous topic I agree and Sucker is one of the tenor-fifty best players of all time before he won finals MVP winning the title Yes, the whole thing that's what matters what you win a title you are a champion and so sure enough they win the title He doesn't win finals MVP I also would have voted for jail and Brown by a hair and no one is ever going to be like well at that time He didn't win finals MVP if anything they're gonna be like the time when they needed one last win to get over the home He was great played awesome and 11 assists at 31 points Oh, who crazy wasn't finally nobody is gonna care would it be a nice capstone for his career someday sure it's crazy over But it's three years old it's just it just what matters is that they won the title and he played like a champion And even when he was not shooting well in the first three games of the series we get game for he was playing very well Like in every other facet of the game. Yeah, doesn't matter.
Yeah. Yeah as I said a couple days ago number zero and number seven are going up there Oh, they're locked in there already like Look you could see after the game just like the visible stress coming off of all these guys You got our horford who's late like dozens and dozens and dozens of Title and you guys talking to Eric White who's obviously been here the last couple years been through all these ups and brown talk He's drinking his champagne I don't know see through I saw I'm walking out. I mean it's T through a kaleidoscope You got porzingis who's walking around well Let's go that's what I said what a line um and then you got Jason hit him and jail around who would find all these people try to Split him up and say they got to move on from them and all this other stuff And now they're at the top of the mountain and it's great They're at the top now, you know what they're gonna do next year We talked about this before they're gonna be kicking people who are trying to come up because they start next season I to me I think it's only up for those guys because so much of this has just been trying to get there Well, I would like to see them play Denver. No, listen But I'm just saying like now to me all the pressure is off of now like all the pressure has been about it's gone They gotta get one and that's and you can see the pressure kick in in game three They they like froze up in game three when they got a big lead and they can start smelling even owl and by the way I had a couple of goofy two games three It was Jason Tatum in the first half who kept him in the game And it was Jalen Brown in the third quarter by the best quarter of his career and one in the game and like that I wish they both could have won the award because like they both were saying they should share it There's 11 votes can't share it.
I mean obviously the NBA could you know, make somebody come on it for like you how they could display But like the point is true again the point is that would be very Celtics who are like 4 4 Much of us were testing about it during the game Everybody was agonizing about it and it's like this is every time I have to vote for one of these Celtics series awards It's always like this every single time but that's what makes them great I mean 20 years ago the Pistons won a title with this kind of team the Celtics are just a much deeper better Version in my opinion. Oh, yeah, I mean with all the respect that pistons team. I love their identity and everything The Celtics team is awesome. I mean, they're I mean again I think Joe Missoli does not has not gotten nearly enough credit for what he's done with this team They play they maximize the numbers at both ends they maximize their talent at both ends turn Sam Houser into a really good player Sam Houser was awesome tonight.
I mean awesome I sent the screens for you a holiday got a deflection defending Affliction and I think Brown got a layup and then Tatum got a pick six on PJ Washington It was like all of a sudden they're roaring and pumping their Hey, Sam Houser's free agent now Jason. They should give you attention. Oh, do we should bring the contract? Wouldn't that be amazing because you know free agency has now started with you have your own free agents Wouldn't it be amazing if they brought the 315 million dollar contract and said Jason Tatum You can sign your three hundred million contract tonight with a novelty check like a publisher's clearinghouse novelty check That's the thing Jason Tatum is a champion.
He's gonna have a parade in a couple of days whenever they're doing it The duck boats is 26 years old and by the week he will have a 315 million contract Tell me don't stop disbelieving. It's a nice slogan. Listen. He's doing just fine his whole career his whole career is ahead of him And all that all the all-time playoffs that's they're all it's all him and magic and Kobe and Tony Parker Like it's all ahead of him This team is built to be good for at least the next couple of years if not longer Yeah, listen Even if they have to retrofit cuz Al Horford is getting close to the end and they may not be able to afford both holiday and Derek White in two years and all that stuff they can retrofit around Tatum and Brown just Tatum and Brown baby they got a deck you got left They've they've done an unbelievable job at every level and they that's if you you know people want to say whether Tatum's a fifth best Player six best player whatever if you don't have a super duper star number one top three guy on your team That's how you got to win and a man.
It's really a team championship Semi-regular reminder that Jason Tatum was not only a net speak But had the what's the product of a swap with the Markelle Foltz picked and they got a Kings pick in addition to that And they tried to get down to a Mitchell in the same draft How was the Maverick's locker? Tim McMan, then McMan howdy partners? How was the Maverick's locker room? You know guys in an hour ready to hop on the flight and head back home Obviously a somber locker room an optimistic group.
They can get back to this day's but they just took a pretty thorough But kicking I'm not just tonight But you know aside from game four in the series in general and they you know they realize that look That's a championship team and the Boston Celtics the winners were in that tunnel as some might say and they were you know as much as the Mavericks I think are well positioned to contend for years There's a big step and he's to be made just he just can't look he just can't kick a finals game That was my point. Yeah, and look, you know, Luca didn't look it wasn't super reflective tonight. He did say He's not sure if he's gonna be playing for Slovenia because he's obviously dealing with injuries or whatnot But you know, he's talked about this being a learning experience and like it's not hard to figure out What are the things you can take as a guy 25-year-old playing in the first finals and like people can be mad at you for What you said after game three and they can say you were maybe hamming it up a little bit that you're good on TV and entertaining Jerk even they can't say you were wrong and the things that Jason kid has really been trying to hammer in a Luca or prod Luke into doing leaving the refs alone not letting that affect your focus being locked in on defense Those came back to bite them in that game three look if they win that game do they win the series still highly doubtful But you know that's often that he's going to the proper the proper result came to fruition Yes, but I said tonight when I was on Scott van Pelt. We're sitting here with the white and green Betty a couple years ago.
Did they have the they had Warriors color confetti here two years ago? I wish I could remember all right. Well, I think two years ago. There was one guy was white green All right.
I remember the nuggets confetti last year. I think that sometime in the near future will be there's a good chance We'll be potting on the court after a game with blue and white blue white green confetti Monads have a chance because they have a guy who's the first or second best player in the world and they've put together They've got him a co-star. They put together supporting cast around him But they've got still work to do and it ain't gonna be easy to get out of the West They you know they know that getting back here won't be easy. They're coming west The West is a different piece I was talking to some selfie coaches before the game and Luca didn't have his best series in this series particularly shooting wise The level of respect ordering on fear that the Celtics even with a 3-1 leader like that dude is controls the game like LeBron like people That was the phrase that was used over and they throw the game.
They really really really well And he went through a like he couldn't hit a three until the game was way out of hand You know he's been playing on the spring knee the whole suit like he's banged up But again that the selta it really just does get back to the Celtics with their star tandem kind of went through the years of growing pains Made the final roster editions ironically one of which was for zingus the co-star who fizzled out next to Luca in Dallas But it was a long path for the Celtics to get here and the Mavs in a lot of ways This is pretty early in their journeys Lucas as far as this. Don't you think the mask can make another trade? Yeah, no the Maverick so Tom draft night. They will have two first round picks and then a couple you know it swaps and Let's just call it like it is.
They've been trying to trade Tim Hardaway Jr. for you know since the ink was dry on that deal Well now it's an expiring contract and it might actually have some value in the trademark I would say this also don't like like if you if you put hard away Maxi Cleba Together you get your salary in a decent spot and you can add the pics like they could I mean Josh Green might have some appeal around the I'll say Maxi's pretty deeply rooted into the franchise as far as I'm just thinking about role players that have contract you could put together Well, I'm not saying you're trading them to minorly upgrade sure and the thing about it Like there's obviously Lucas as untouchables any player in the league Kyrie's not going anywhere and then Derek Lively didn't have a great night tonight didn't have like honestly like Kyrie They can trade for a star. It would probably take including lively But that we're pretty much boy It'd have to be a one hell of a star because Lively I'm not saying he's untouchable untouchable But I'm saying well, this is for podcasts and then you're too soon. All right Let's just we're gonna wrap let's wrap it's been away.
We've been going a while. Yeah, we have Some more games for a long time. Yeah, we have free agency started on anyone's idea. I've been kicked my phone.
Is there anything? I hope not. I hope they respect the Celtics enough to wait till tomorrow agreed. We respect the Celtics worthy champions Absolutely.
I'd rather wire wire wire best enjoy it enjoy your parade enjoy your duck boats draft It's one week from nine days from today find me a Samuel Adams. I'll bet there will be some available tonight All right. Thank you everybody who went who went through this whole post season around with all of us We did a bunch of really late podcasts because we care so much about you I got six and flights in New York. There it is Thank you to Jackson our producer.
Thank you to Adi Khan who is leaving us. Oh my god. I just found out today Which I guess I'm happy for but not really Well, thank you to Zach. Thank you to Bon Temps.
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