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EPISODE · Nov 6, 2025 · 46 MIN

LIVE DISCUSSION: Exposition - JOB 1:7 (Part 4 of 4)

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Send us Fan MailWhat does it mean when Jesus says, “I never knew you”? We open that door and walk straight into the hard questions many avoid: Does God love everyone the same way, or does Scripture teach a specific love that saves? Is grace an offered gift you can refuse, or an effective work of God that creates faith where there was none? We examine the sheep and goats in John 10, the golden chain of Romans 8, and the tension-filled promise of 2 Peter 3:9 with an eye toward what the text actually says, not what we wish it said.You’ll hear two clear convictions. One of us argues that God loves the whole world and offers every person a genuine opportunity to believe, with unbelief alone keeping people from salvation. The other maintains that salvation is entirely of the Lord—those whom God foreknew in love, He predestined, called, justified, and will glorify—and that Christ laid down His life for the sheep with effectual intent. Along the way we ask sharp questions: Can goats become sheep? Is foreknowledge mere foresight or covenant love? If the new birth is a creation from above, how does anyone come to faith apart from God’s initiative?This conversation doesn’t trade clarity for comfort. We probe how these doctrines shape evangelism, assurance, and pastoral care. Does saying “God loves you” without qualification help sinners repent, or numb them to judgment? Does particular redemption ground real hope for weak believers? We keep the tone warm and direct, modeling how Christians can disagree, test their views by Scripture, and still part with respect and affection.If theology matters to you—and if you want your confidence in Christ to rest on more than slogans—press play. Then open your Bible, check our citations, and tell us where you land. If this sharpened your thinking, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review so more thoughtful listeners can join the conversation.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

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