EPISODE · Dec 20, 2025 · 41 MIN
Liz & Lily Integrate - Part 2: Ketamine as Sacred Support
from In Right Relationship · host Liz Chernett, Lily Eggers
In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily flip the script. This time, Liz interviews Lily about her path with psychedelics and her long, layered love affair with ketamine. We trace her story from teenage mushroom trips and a recently unearthed journal entry from that time, through a 30-year hero’s journey back to the knowing that her core identity is love.From there, Lily opens up about her ongoing relationship with ketamine: how she works with psycholytic doses, why she journals during journeys, and the ways this medicine supports her healing as a mother, a trauma therapist, and a recovering avoidant-attacher. We explore memory, neuroplasticity, and how ketamine can become a recurring container for trauma renegotiation, reparenting, and rewriting old stories—especially when paired with practices like EMDR, hypnosis, mantra, cannabis, and Kundalini breathwork.If you’re curious about ketamine as a sacrament (not just a clinical tool), about integration inside the journey, or about how to weave journaling and music into your own practice, this one’s for you.About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out in Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
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In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily flip the script. This time, Liz interviews Lily about her path with psychedelics and her long, layered love affair with ketamine. We trace her story from teenage mushroom trips and a recently unearthed journal entry from that time, through a 30-year hero’s journey back to the knowing that her core identity is love.From there, Lily opens up about her ongoing relationship with ketamine: how she works with psycholytic doses, why she journals during journeys, and the ways this medicine supports her healing as a mother, a trauma therapist, and a recovering avoidant-attacher. We explore memory, neuroplasticity, and how ketamine can become a recurring container for trauma renegotiation, reparenting, and rewriting old stories—especially when paired with practices like EMDR, hypnosis, mantra, cannabis, and Kundalini breathwork.If you’re curious about ketamine as a sacrament (not just a clinical tool), about integration inside the journey, or about how to weave journaling and music into your own practice, this one’s for you.About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out in Spring, 2025.Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com/About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her experience supporting others on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com/Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.#InRightRelationship #LizChernett #LilyEggers
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