Loving Accountability and White Identity with Christine S...

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In this episode of Fierce Compassion, we welcome Christine Saxman. Christine is a racial equity facilitator, coach, and co-author of Being White Today: A Road Map for a Positive Anti-Racist Life. Christine shares her journey from classroom teacher to a full-time anti-racism educator. We explore the role of self-compassion in navigating mistakes, the power of loving accountability, and the challenges of working with white people at different stages of racial awareness. Christine offers insights on embracing both/and thinking, breaking down white defensiveness, and fostering transformation without reinforcing shame. Join us for a nuanced, deeply reflective conversation on what it means to engage in anti-racism with courage and care. Episode Transcript Christine Saxman is the co-author of Being White Today: A Roadmap for a Positive Antiracist Life with Shelly Tochluk and the Western State Center’s Toolkit “Confronting Conspiracy Theories and Organized Bigotry at Home: A Guide for Parents and Caregivers” with Shelly Tochluk and Joanna Schroeder. Her racial justice work has been featured on NPR’s Life Kit and other shows. A seasoned racial equity facilitator, coach, and consultant with twenty years of experience, she guides White people to transform into healthy antiracist change agents. She also co-facilitates interracially to help organizations to build cross-racial equity transformation into leadership. She can be found at christinesaxman.com. Follow Christine online: Website: BeingWhiteToday. com LinkedIn: Christine Saxman X/Twitter: ⁠@BeingWhiteToday⁠ Instagram: Being White Today Episode Mentions: bell hooks Shelly Tochluk Being White Today: A Roadmap for a Positive Antiracist Life White Privilege Conference SEED SURJ White Rage by Carol Anderson Ismalis Nunez NPR’s Life Kit You can find more episodes and transcripts of Fierce Compassion at ⁠http://antiracistconversations.com/fierce-compassion-podcast⁠ Stay current with Roxy and Sarah's personal work at ⁠⁠https://roxannemanning.com/⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠https://sarahpeyton.com/⁠ Like this podcast? Leave a rating and review, and share the podcast with your friends! Podcast Manager: James Boutin Audio Editor: Brendan Youngquist

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In this episode of Fierce Compassion, we welcome Christine Saxman. Christine is a racial equity facilitator, coach, and co-author of Being White Today: A Road Map for a Positive Anti-Racist Life. Christine shares her journey from classroom teacher...

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