You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies wasatch investigative studies a paranormal science show Which apparently is yet another acronym for a super natural hour of wood. Why are you doing this to me man? Well, we do the wish show. This is this is your your co-host lurch to my left I have the bald and beautiful castle across from him we have Tim beaker Tim the slob whisper going around the room We got Don Simon Don say hi Simon Don and then there's a dianston next to him.
Hello is everything he's trying his own product I think he is I'm pretty sure that he's trying to go product Welcome to the wish show. What is this stuff really? What is it's blue raspberry rock candy? That's what the guy at finer parks says yeah, it was really expensive over rock candy for some reason Out of some pop rocks pop rocks would have been a lot more expensive.
I found Amazon for like five bucks for a one pound bag Oh, yeah, yeah, and it had good ratings because other people used for the same thing as a prop for for meth a meth prop Yeah, lurch is a Walter white. Thank you. I might at least let my my eyes and bird I've seen that show and like also my mind is like all Slipped it's it's because you're tweaking too much. It's because I had this rock candy that we found in Pioneer Park Don't get high on your own supply exactly.
This is Castle. It is like Halloween Eve Eve It's actually a few hours prior to the library we're on a show and we are recording no, it's Halloween It is Halloween. It is officially Halloween. No Halloween stands for all hollows Eve.
So it's how do you well? November first is Dia de los Muertos. No Eve just means the night before so you're being like weird and all hollows Eve means that night Don't make me that evening. I have control this is all hollows Eve.
I'm got cherry Anyway to my left we've got tennis log whisper what's happening to my right? We've got the lurch hello and lurch went on with his costume He looks like Walter white he even shaved his head I shaved my head I gotta say ball is beautiful man I hate facial hair, but I've been growing out my goatee for the last two weeks now and I'm gonna shave it off on Tuesday Did you contract one cancer to really I did actually yeah Yeah, shut my face in a pile of asbestos to attract melanoma just breathe deeply. Mm-hmm I don't know if you've noticed this, but I also hate facial hair. Yeah, I can tell it's tinsel bloating this evidence I haven't shaved since me We have a dian who is and actually I miss this memo But apparently we're supposed to be a group it was a group it was costume and bring treats I actually kind of ignore the part where dian talks.
It wasn't me. It was large lurch. That's the one that said to bring no You said to bring treats. I said treat you said cost I think I did bring treats I brought myself a bag of donuts because I forgot there's gonna be treats here I came dressed as myself and Tim came dressed as himself, so you're dressed as ugly yes Dan wait tell us what your costume Dan I'm morticia I usually wipe my face out, but we ran out of time so I'm not white face But I will be tomorrow and silent on who's so silent we didn't even introduce him tell us about your costume So I'm going to zatoms we can see that in fact He's got even little creepy mustache going on to go with it Yes, I made him grab the mustache so that he could be going as and then I said ooh on Tuesday You can shave it and he goes I might not because it's no shave November and then we discussed that and we said you don't shave I don't shake the end digs the mustache.
Yeah, I think that makes a nice place shave He looks like he belongs on a registry Not really he's actually pulling that mustache off really well You're just it as you don't look as good as he does with the mustache Yeah, I'm not gonna argue that as it actually does look pretty good I grew a mustache for no shame November a couple years ago You probably look like a 70s porn star and that's what I guess I'm a porn star I'm thinking of doing that though when I shave the goat just leaving the mat and my stash for you know a little bit And he actually looks like he looks sophisticated like he should be wearing a bottle Well, he's got the bow tie in the the pinstripe suit with the vest Yeah, I would just show from my stash and be like hey ladies I hey you want a free puppy and then there's a lot of screaming and running in salt Here's my van with the Windows I got free puppies and candy in the back okay the van was not a wise choice of you never mind the dirty mattress It's cuz I shouldn't use the panel then I fully admit that now, but hey Anyway, this is a long time since we've had an episode episode our last couple episodes have actually been kind of special episodes We did we talked about the popo the killer clown doll, which was that thing was creepy. Did we ever talk about that after the fact? Him I know you're with me on the no Do you know what you drink away from my phone? You're sipping There was a guy he brought like fake math and they like again snorting her coke her She's testing out the product We just the last three episodes we had were two of them at the panel festival and one was the family trip So we haven't actually sat as our group and talked about the clown by the way for those who have not heard the paranormal festival Episode or not the family trip so I'm talking about one of our listeners caught in the EP In the episode oh so that wasn't even it was a comment I went back and listened to it and I played to per castle We're pretty sure that was an even that's pretty cool because even unlike the ghost adventure show where they're at the family tree They they're just talking you know during the interview process and they play back the recording get me Like that so that's really cool.
It's just solidifying the fact that there are things there's things there are things there It sounds kind of like a moan and it's about what the 1430 42 a thing is what was somewhere in there? 1441 42 I'm gonna get a Tim will get some exact time here, but it's about the 14 minute 30 some odd second mark if I remember right do you have it? Um, I'm gonna play it. Do we want to play it?
We could play it. Let's play it. I'll play your face your mom will play your face With a pillow I say we've had murder victims With a pillow I say we've had murder victims With a pillow I say we've had murder victims So there it is right there about the 1442 is that what you said is that Tim? Yeah 42 you can kind of hear talk about child spirits And then you hear kind of a a moment sounds like someone whoa, yeah like someone's really struggling in the mandrum Show and show some of the row face, right?
Oh pretty sure that's not what was going on though Because lurch wasn't there True, but yeah good capture whoever caught that speaking which before we get too far into this let's give a little shout out to a couple folks First off David G. Who was actually a guest on that episode? We appreciate you coming in there's actually a second entry that we really wait a tough time decide who's gonna come in on that episode David G Ended up being our choice, but we had one individual who promised us world peace and some other things if he was I liked the part about the we all see you eating nothing but red velvet and for you red velvet doesn't exist and see that part kind of Freaked me out a little bit because we get all this parallel universes going on That was the Titanic just arrived All right, but yeah that one had me a little freaked out because all those parallel universes kind of mess with me a little And you know that there are like infinite number of parallel universes to now I also want to give a shout out to our friends at Experticity which is a company in Salt Lake and they actually had me come down and do a presentation for them a couple weeks ago And so if you're listening from that company Thank you, it was good meeting you guys and we do do that by the way if somebody said do do If there's a company or a group who wants us to come talk about paranormal stuff bring evidence things of that nature We are more than happy to do that in fact. We actually owe Kayla thank you.
I think it was last name. We owe him a presentation and a k-2 meter. Yes, and that will happen speaking k2 meters 10 did you get your k2 meter figure out from I know I haven't looked at it yet It was weird because all they did was change the battery and it stopped working properly and we went corry Try to do the same thing with hers. It did the exact same thing Minded where it would light up three lights and not all in a row.
No, not sequential lights It's like three random lights the random lights light up and it would just stay lit up. That's crazy I think I need to get a new Ghost box because every speaker that I tried on it's really really quiet We actually since our last podcast we've had a number of investigations And so I think it's time for us to talk about those investigations just a little bit and see what we got I'm gonna kind of get on the spot a little bit lurch I know that you went to the science building can you talk about that? I wasn't really wanting to talk about it because it was kind of a download thing But hey, thanks for putting me on the spot. You're welcome.
I hope I can cut that out if you want Yeah, so Tim Conyers invited me and it was only like three or four of the people that he invited But I think he was a little bit upset that some other people showed up and invited but yeah, it was kind of a smaller group and It definitely makes me appreciate you guys Even me yeah, even you well I'm just I'm not saying anything bad about anyone else, but there's different everyone has their own techniques and some of them can be a little Bit questionable some of them I don't buy into as much as others like pendulums and crystals and and there was a one young lady there That was using a crystal on the pendulum to get yes, no answers And and I could I could faintly see how she might have been manipulating it a little bit Let's just say so it didn't really buy too much into that then also I think they were getting false readings with flashlight tests It just seemed like it was a little too consistent and too timed with the flashlight coming on and then fading out and then like 60 seconds later coming on and then fading out just repeatedly, you know, that sounds like it was it's a false positive Yeah, false by the flashlight basically turning itself exactly what can happen I believe we've had mark explain it once but I think that I've got kind of scrapped because that's not all We need to mark back on talk about that and really the flash like test. It's a cool and it's a valid test I mean we've gotten valid results with the flashlight test But there is some science behind it that if the flash like ever if it starts up cold or hot I think it's I think it was too hot It basically when it cools down it contracts and turns itself and turns itself off and as it's as it's going down It twists the other way and turns itself back on so it'll just constantly do that now If you have the flashlight set up and it's sitting there for five minutes doing nothing and then you start getting responses It's more likely that you're actually talking the spirits and not the flashlight turning itself on and off But when you first set up your flashlight if it just instantly starts doing that you're most likely Yeah, one one guy there was a little bit intoxicated I think and he was getting a little bit rowdy and then I kept trying to I love the sign-banging building It's awesome. It's great venue I want to thank Tim Conyers for letting me go there Tim if you're listening love you bro But I wanted to like find a quiet place by myself and everyone seemed to like follow along behind me So Quiet place would be everyone else and I'm just like okay. This is great I want to go find another quiet place and it would follow behind me So how did the boo bear?
Didn't really get any results from it. There was one time where one paw lit up just briefly and I'd been looking away and someone else said Oh look there is and then I can just visualize some ghost Stocking the boo bear slowly timidly approaching it with fear and trepidation Well, and as you get up to the boo bear it reaches out touch the paw the paw lights up and it goes freaks and runs away Well, we took it to a silent 49 And brandy was there at the time and we asked her you know what the spirits thought about it And she said that they try to turn on but the only spirits that really can turn on is like a really strong spirit She says there's a lot of spirits that I'm a silent 49 that we're trying to turn on and just couldn't you know It's interesting is I've noticed that on a investigation I'm sure you guys have as well But you can kind of tell that some spirits are stronger than other spirits by what they can do some spirits really seem to be able to manipulate Flashlights and k-tos and other equipment at will basically another seem to really give it their all to do even the most basic That reminded me I did hear Marcus making audible noise when I was at the sign-banking to you Speaking strong spirits. So yeah in that little room off to the side where he typically hangs out I went in there by myself Kind of I don't want to say antagonize him a little bit, but just kind of you know I can't imagine you antagonize I never do that, but yeah, I did hear him make an audible noise Quick like a bandaid. Come on.
Come on. Crinkle crinkle get the candy and damn a barot bag of candy I'll come out listening to this episode. I might need a two loudly to my ears. Yeah, you know I hear a hand me a donut so I can smack my lips really loud Lurch you should appreciate that.
You read up a point that I kind of have been wanting to talk about for weeks and weeks and weeks And that's you like you said somebody was investigating intoxicated It's been a month or two ago But there's several paranormal forms on Facebook that I get invited to and I just stay member of them Just so I can kind of see what's going on with everybody else and somebody posted a poll question on there on whether or not Did you find it where you on their time? I think you might have done that form. I think you got invited in But basically the question was more or less how many people Investigate with a altered state of mind is probably the best way to put it. Okay, you're weakening your defenses Mentally you're weakening them physically you're Disrupting everyone around you with your behavior You're having fun, but no one else is and then take the example of the fear factory where Paul Paul Welch was saying that someone was really drunk and they fell from the top of the silo I don't think they died today They were really intoxicated and they fell from the top of the silo and yeah, just don't do it Well, then I'm thinking if you're investigating intoxicated or hi, you know, are you going to end?
I'm using my air quotes here because you can't see are you hearing audible voices and are you seeing shadows? Right, are you seeing you're seeing a real spirit or you have a NASA trip? Right and so if I was investigating with someone with an altered state and they were telling me that they were hearing things and seeing things I think yeah, maybe but you can't take any of that. It's been incredible and what's interesting and I think Lurch had to know right on the head is There's a lot more dark stuff out there than a lot Slowly takes that rep right home enjoy snacking anyway, no, but I've never seen anybody take that much time I'm enjoying but there's a lot of I mean we've run into a lot of dark stuff and I know that some people do not me That is Lurch.
No, it's the end. Alec is gonna hate you, Dan. Come on. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
It's time. Um, we'll spring for the coordinate That's not a pds Dan. Um Really? I was doing that that was Lurch.
That's the end man. I'm telling you man. The one with a lot of candies sticking out of the mouth looks like you got chew You know, I could tell at least you've been like mainlining sugar all day Please continue with your story. I can't remember my story So I did have someone once you know when I told him that uh brandy could do what she does because he's known her for a long time as well Uh, he asked me has she ever considered doing acid to open up her abilities?
Oh my god, so which I responded. Um, are you serious? I'm like do you realize how dangerous that is you're lowering like you said Lurch? You're basically lowering your inhibitions and you're inviting stuff to come in and manipulate your body Which is not safe at all.
I remember where I was going and we run into a lot of dark stuff In fact, there's a couple groups were like oh everything goes running to his dark stuff And I understand where they're coming from but we do investigate with brandy and she can see it and the evidence that we find on our electronic equipment and 3vps validates what she's telling us so we actually are running into a lot of dark stuff because there is a lot of dark stuff people misidentify as just being Something else entirely. Yeah, it's a friendly ghost. One thing that I have noticed in at least in my experience and with the cases that we have done And I don't I'm not saying that this is industry wide But if you've got stuff in your home, you know things moving and your hearing voices You know, I'll tell people it's probably something not good because most good spirits just kind of hang out And don't do a whole lot right generally if there's positive spirits in a place. They're relatively quiet It's usually when they're not quite that there's something going on Yeah, I mean they might try to get your attention or you know, I mean they're not always silent But usually usually if there's stuff going on seems like most of the time it's dark But when you go into a situation like that, I mean and I'm gonna take a minute here to defend my honor This this goes along with what we're talking about The radio run and show the last of the dark Halloween one They're kind of making fun of the fact that I tend to run towards dark things And most of the reason I do that is because a I am trying to help people It's and the whole team doesn't in reality.
I know lurch does Absolutely, Tim does and but we do it to help people and Quite frankly, we've had a ton of experience with this stuff and we know what we need to protect ourselves in state of danger And there's some rules that I follow and the rest of the team follows and there are times when Even stone told sober. I want to get more Provokey than I know is wise and I have to kind of write myself in now if I was lit I don't know that I would use that same good judgment. Come at me, bro. Come on.
You want? I mean you were there. We were at a residential and I was kind of we were talking to a type two and and My attitude was not the way I normally Investigate and I had to sit back and stop myself. I'm like wait I'm I'm falling into what this guy wants me to do I'm like cadence you need to dig over right now I'm done talking like I had to stop myself from investigating because I was kind of going down that road and if you're drunk or high or tripping There's no way you're going to be able to make those sound judgment calls and do wise things I've been and you're disruptive like lurch said you're disruptive.
I went to investigation fact It was investigation shungo was there and the investigation was being held in a bar They didn't close the bar which sucked because it was really loud but one of the people participating investigation I think had arrived three hours early to the bar and decided past the time by consuming copious amounts of the course And the guy was just blitzed the whole investigation and he was an ass I don't think he meant to be but he just was your typical loud obnoxious drunk and he really Distractors from the investigation and on top of that again You lower first thing that goes when you drink is your judgment That's I mean that's just been scientifically proven that your judgment goes Once you get drunk and so investigating with alcohol fact if you ever come on investigation mind a public investigation or if a team ever shows up to investigation Who's been drinking you're done? You're going home. You're going home. Um, so this this one response to the poll because it was um Was your honest opinion of altering your state of mind?
Uh, alcohol we'd accept or while you investigate Before you get too far into that Tim what blew my mind about that whole poll was that some of the answers from experienced people in the field I don't know if that Surprise do it. Oh, no it did because there's people that I've investigated with when I saw what they wrote I'm just like seriously that I was kind of like I don't know if I'm gonna investigate with you anymore Yeah, it's just it's dangerous. Um, and again, I don't know that you could really trust any evidence you hear see etc if you're Blind drunk or stoned or anything along those lines See someone actually said that investigating with an older mind because that your sensors are heightened you could hear more feel more or sense better and All together closer to the bell, which it I would have to disagree with that. Mm.
I think that uh, you might be closer to the bell But you're not really in control of yourself. That makes sense right and if you're not in control yourself You're opening yourself up for something else to grab the wheel as someone who used to smoke a lot of weed and currently not quick smith Yeah, um, that's besides the point, but I mean I think I wouldn't feel Comfortable like being in public under the influence of something like that I mean it it messes with you to a point where you you want to be any social you want to stay at home You don't want to go out you don't want to do anything to interact with people and I would feel really uh Under the magnifying glass if I was in a situation like that So I just don't see that happening besides if you went to a sound 49 you eat all the skittles You want to have any trigger objects for and the cupcakes and the cupcakes Um, so yeah, let's if you investigate if you want to investigate If you consume anything, I mean, I'll be honest with you even if you've had surgery and you're on some kind of like pain medication or something like that I would advise don't do it. Um, it's just and Even spit it out spit it out. I'm trying to think a sensitive way to put this.
Um If you have mental health problems, I wouldn't investigate That's the longest short of it is if you suffer from mental health issues You are just walking into a minefield if you have mental health issues, especially ones that require medication to normalize Um, you're making yourself a target for things that could be dangerous tremendously so Um, you know and we have found that a lot of times when these dark type three spirits get involved Uh in these cases they target the low hanging. I think you're gonna say low hanging fruit. I knew it Alert to the second I knew you're gonna say low hanging fruit, uh, but I mean it's because it's an easier target It's easier to mess with somebody who's got a physical disability or a mental disability Um or both they're just an easier target for those spirits to work at now speaking Maybe frame of mind you guys anything else you guys want to add on that actually I do um, you know If you want to have you know be more alert and feel like you're more in tune Or you know in a heightened state. I would suggest nothing better me.
Yes. Yeah, yeah No, I would suggest you know do some meditation. Um, you know, maybe you whatever that might be you know as you're driving to the venue Maybe you know put on some relaxing music or you know or silence or whatever it takes for you to meditate I would even be okay if you put on some music the kind of ampedry upload that they get you excited get you just Wildness in a rob zombie. Oh, right Or that No, but you know, I mean there are ways to prepare but where you can keep your faculties You know, I'll be honest with you if it's gonna be late night investigation all drink energy drink and that there's nothing wrong with that It's just something that is gonna alter your state of mind.
That's what's wrong with you Something's gonna all be explains on where's the button at? Well, I mean we've witnessed it personally like firsthand. I've been on investigation with investigator I've watched him drink a beer too and he was fine I wouldn't recommend it But we've also been on a residential investigation where we're the homeowners or one of the renters of the house Uh, I don't know how many beers he went through that night. Oh, you know, but uh, he was the one that uh, he I think we played that even on one of the shows, but he's one he challenged the The type two that was in the basement.
Yeah, he basically said something effective You want to throw down? Um, unfortunately the EVP says no, but at the time when he said it like everybody in the room who had any kind of experience in doing this It's like, uh, no, don't take it back. Pick it back. Um, because that's how you get yourself in trouble Um, by opening a challenge like that you've basically invited something to Contend with you, which couldn't otherwise do so Now and I'm gonna offend a listener here and I'm just gonna I'm gonna bring it right out because we've never done that ever Well, I suppose it's a specific listener.
Um, Abana, I'm not gonna name names But we actually got a message. Uh, I do this for a reason and if I've been the person, I'm sorry I'm not but I just I have to call it out for what it is. Um, and I'm gonna go back to the radio run and dark Halloween episode where they talked about people messing with stuff they shouldn't mess with uh, and you know, I know Radio Roman has had a really rotten year. Um, just in their personal lives and they've attributed to some of the investigations that they've dealt with and things they've gone through and I know there was no investigations this year.
There probably will be future investigations I've been talking to chunk about that a little bit, but They need to get their Stuff straightened out. Yeah, they've got to take some time and get some things sorted out But really when you start messing with dark stuff if you don't have your pardon my language your shit together, um, love you Kenny If you don't have your in the butt your cold finger in the butt. Okay, and there she is I haven't seen her in like two months now. She's back and she's back But really if you don't have your your act together, um You can really get into a lot of trouble if you invest get on a regular basis because again a lot of these spirits are going after the dark ones um, they Look for Entryways, they look for doorways and if you don't know how to deal with those type of spirits they can really screw with your life Um, and when I say when we look for I don't we don't actively seek them out.
That is just not a wise thing to do Yeah, and that's a misconception. I tell people that I go to and I have a lot that's whole we wouldn't go looking for evil spirits. I'm not going looking for you No people people what happens they find us But you know they say what happens is people call us when they have things going on and we go in and figure out what the problem is that we do our best to solve it So since oh sorry go ahead and finish your thought. I just want to add something real quick I know right with lots of long policies and so it's not the kind of thing where we go in and like oh Let's go find evil spirits.
We don't do that. No people call us. We go in. I know chug was teasing about me wanting an avid Bill spoon which I have and is not sitting on top of my fridge.
Well, see we've actually the last few times we've been the family tree We've actually made it a point to ignore the negative when we've been focusing on the positive only right and but somebody contacted us and wanted to know Where they could go find evil spirits for free. Yeah, and I know lurch commented on the message I know Tim commented on that message and I was being sarcastic, but I mean seriously he kind of needed an answer like that I I tried to be polite and I just got a parrot just thought I'm gonna answer it look I don't care if you've been studying since you're 10 years old I studied since about 10 years old and I will be honest with you the minute I got involved in physically going out investigating I realized I was way out of my element it took a few years of actually going out and doing to even have a Foundation and we're still learning and But to go out actively seeking those and thinking that at the right page of 21 you're prepared to go out and look for that stuff You are gonna get yourself in a world of trouble if you're looking for something evil You don't have to look it'll find you. I mean that's what we do when we go to different venues is we don't look for the dark stuff It finds us But no, I was just gonna just tell a quick story since this was the Halloween episode and we're kind of on that subject But I've got a buddy that lives in Atlanta and he's he's totally religious now, but at the time when I knew him He and a group of friends were playing around and you know this goes to reason why you don't do stuff like this But yeah, they had no Ouija board and they turned out all the lights and they built a circle of candles around them And we're like calling on anything to come through and literally in a room with no one does open or no closed doors You know no AC vents nearby all the candles got blown out at the same time and they're like okay game over So you don't know what you're inviting, you know, and it's gonna stay there. It's gonna follow you So if I mean just don't be a jackass don't play around with stupid stuff You know my son was at school This was just last week and he was texting me like during lunch and he said there's a whole bunch of kids sitting here They're talking about you know all these you know And they probably meant it in the ghost story and there's my air quotes again since But you know how does someone demons and the other and do this if you do that you know you turn out a circle and you know It doesn't matter what you do if you open up that invitation you will get something right?
I just wouldn't even go there and the problem is and again I know I'm probably pissing somebody off, but we're in Utah and most people in Utah belong to the predominant faith In fact, I know that everybody here at this table belongs to the predominant faith and Not to get too deep into theology, but the members of that predominant faith All the male members were worthy basically get ordained to the priesthood and all worthy male members to hold the priesthood to a varying degree And unfortunately I think a lot of people think that that that gives them carte blanche to go out and Basically kick ass with evil spirits And I will tell you up front right now based on our experience that it does give you authority. However, there are a lot more factors involved Then just saying yeah, I somebody put their hands in my head. I'm good to go there are a lot of factors involved There are some places where some of those spirits are very very very persistent There's underlying reasons why those spirits are there and there's underlying reasons why those spirits will return time and time again Until you address that underlying reason there are personal worthiness issues Just because you've been set apart for the priest it doesn't mean that you are worthy and have the power to be behind it to go do anything Oh, there's also I'm that's what I'm looking for Do you have the proper stewardship for that and that's that's was my next thing is you know If you're going into somebody's home to kick something out What right do you have to be doing that and what I mean by that is if the homeowners asked you great? But if you just are going in there and trying to do it and you don't have Ownership or authority or something along those lines good luck good luck And I tell you this based on experience to put it bluntly And I know that we're getting kind of serious and kind of have a grumpy tone I'm sorry, that's not usually what we do But I can tell you what I since the age of 17 have never not held a job or something is actively seeking to take away my life I joined the army at age 17.
I'm a police officer The things I think about every single day is how do I not get killed today at work? Those are honestly thoughts I have every day when I get dressed to go to work is how do I not get killed today? And that's what I think about all day long at work Most people don't have that thought process and I can tell you right now I have had some scary days at work But there are nothing compared to some of the experiences that we have dealt with as a team dealing with some of this stuff The perfect example would be that residential in a tour the county I mean while you're talking about that it's like yeah We were invited there to help the family out to help out the the guy that was really afflicted with a bunch of negative stuff But it's like that scared the crap out of me the the level of affliction that he was under Playing around with Ouija boards since he was really young and just inviting that into its into his house It's like sure we can put a band-aid on things and maybe scare it away for a little bit But he's gonna invite it right back in and I mean this is a dude that was hearing voices demonic growls in his head Didn't speak Latin but he wrote out this phrase in Latin of what these voices were chanting and translated to this one's hours priest And it just I mean it's it's real. I mean it's it's not a joke It's really really really in fact don't play with Ouija boards don't get mixed up with stuff that you don't know what you're doing I think one of the scariest moments I had doing this and I don't know that I've ever talked about this I'm going to for the sake and benefit of this particular line of conversation.
Can I touch on that to allow us real quick? Yes, in my personal opinion. I don't think we were called out there to help the family I don't I think we were gonna trap. I think it was a trap I think it was there.
I think they were trying to get brandy there to basically end her life I honestly believe that's he had two or three rifles in the corner of their bedroom at one point I seriously thought he was gonna go get one and to be honest with you We did the cleansing process like we do at everybody else's house and it more or less works every time we do this process that spirits leave The house in this particular case I snapped a photo before we left after we cleanse the house and after you guys blessed the both homeowners The type three was still in the house. It never left the house and that goes back to Dan stewardship thing and basically he did not want it gone He there was no they weren't called out there to get rid of it No, there wasn't no looking at all the evidence after the fact he had ulterior motives to get us out there And there was no interest on his part in solving the problem Again, I would agree with lurch and Tim based on what we saw that there was something involved to get us out there for some reason Well and where he was partially possessed or fully possessed Probably was it him that called well, I think he was he was the tool right now And it kind of comes back to what I was gonna say as far as the scariest moment I've had and this was early on and I don't really talk about this stuff because it just comes across to so insane Unless you see it know it have experienced it. It's not something I really talk about You know what was going on? I touch base a lot with chunk of when this first happened But one of our first really really really dark cases.
I was helping a gal in another city I'm not not narrow down too much But she was having some really bad stuff going on in her life in her home and when I say bad stuff I'm talking the Amityville level stuff And she contacted me and it was kind of difficult because her mom wasn't complete totally not I'm she was an adult But she lived at home and her mom didn't want anybody coming over to the house But one night out of the blue I started getting text messages from the squirrels phone And they were clearly not her the entity in the home had more or less was using her had taken her over And I had a full-on 20-minute conversation with the entity in the home via text message And you could tell by the tone by the gross blasphemy One just by the grammar and the word use you could tell that it was a dark interest And I remember going on a ride along with you like two nights later You're showing me those texts and to be honest with you if you want to talk about something that kind of makes your blood run Cold yeah start talking to something like that like directly and I mean you saw the blasphemy I mean it's the stuff that no normal sane human being would say and so if you're actively going out looking for your Spirits, I'm sorry I'm just gonna call it you're a dumbass and if I find you don't listen to show any more great But you're full there's really no way to put that if you're interested in going out and investigating ghosts go out investigate ghosts I will support you all day long on that if you want to just investigate to get EVPs But if you're seeking if you're actively seeking out evil you are stupid and when you go on ghost investigations You do occasionally encounter negative stuff so you will find it you don't have to actively search for it It'll find you you you'll come across it if you do enough investigations But wanting to seek out that stuff that that is kind of foolish now granted when we do go to investigation and there's something negative there It's like yeah, I'll go right towards that because that's kind of what I do and say and to be honest with you And the radio running folks are making fun of me for this But I do the same thing and I'll and the reason why is because I want to help people I want to protect people I want to get that stuff out of Their lives my motive and to be honest with you There are some very firm rules that you have to follow when you're doing that and if you don't understand those rules and know those rules are You give up your moral authority I don't care how religious you are but if you break those rules you are gonna have a heck of a time doing anything effective You know part of one of those rules and me and lurch and Tim figures this out pretty quick in a house and there was a couple Wussy types three they were like low-level evil spirits the garden arms and we had a heck of a time getting rid of them Initially and we realized the problem was and I'll tell you up front is that we kind of fell into a pattern of taunting them making fun of them That's what they wanted we were being cocky. We were going to their level. We're sinking to their level Yeah, and you guys at both on totally different levels hit exactly what's gonna get that is a we sunk to their level We gave up any and all of our moral authority and as Tim said we got cocky and that pride made it so that we were not effective at all We eventually got rid of them, but it was a lot more work than it needed to be and should have been And that's a very humbling experience. Yes, and that's the biggest thing I struggle with when dealing with this And I'll tell you right now I'll just all in my cards on the table is humility.
I just remember yep Being humble is the hardest part of doing this is going in and not being like you know cracking my knuckles I'm gonna start whooping ass if you go to fat attitude, you're not gonna whoop anything But at the same time you can't go in Scared right I mean there's a fine line of being authoritative confidence being a And that's where I was headed next is you have it's a razor thin line I mean razor thin like molecule edge razor thin between confidence and arrogance And if you go in confidence and you have to go in confident I'll tell you right now you have to be confident, but if you go in arrogant in any way shape or form good luck good luck Because you'll be humbled real fast. Mm-hmm and so I understand that yeah We do and I'm using my air quotations to run towards a dark stuff. You're not using your Notations thank you we do in a sense run towards a dark stuff But not because we're seeking it out because it's been found and we're gonna deal with it I'll give you an example my son also mentioned to me that he has a friend who It hold him some things confided in him some things that kind of worried him and he's just starting to get into The ghost hunting he asked for ghost hunting stuff for Christmas And I've taken him on and I'm going to start bringing him on some of the more tame ghost hunts But this this friend of his she's going through some personal struggles She's an adolescent girl, which doesn't help and she is basically a prime target for something to start working on her He told me a few things and I thought that sounds kind of suspect I said to have her send me picture of her so he did and I sent it to Brandy And I said are there any attachments in this photo and she answered and she said yes There's a type 2b female and I don't know how we have we told her listeners are new type We have a couple of I'm still trying to hammer out what which is a which is a worry it'll change again in a couple weeks Just to clarify we've decided that the type 2 spirits and lovelace coming to flavors We've noticed through our research one is chocolate in the other vanilla yes Moving on we could read that thumbs it up it is now There's those who are willfully melovant basically they were assholes in life and they're still assholes now You guys can't tell I'm mad because my language is going to weigh downhill you need to calm down Yeah, I did tell my questions about this podcast a type a type 2a We just went it up into a and be a type 2a is one that is willfully being a jerk a type 2b is one that's being coerced or Basically being manipulated by a type 3 a type 3 is coming in said you're gonna do what I tell you to do or we're gonna have a problem And they say yes, sir. Yes, so there's nothing to hammer out.
That's type 2a I just couldn't say which one is a which one a is being yeah, I mean he's being coarse So that's my thrilling story She's being she has an attachment that is being coerced by a type 3 which means that there's probably a type 3 in the house And so it's like you know, it's like you know, it's gonna I haven't told her this because she's home a lot. Yeah, I know that yeah, it makes people out when they know that so yeah I'm glad he didn't just like go into her house. Hey, there's a demon here. Yeah, yeah Like that old lady But you had to be tactful about it, you know, just don't go in there like you got a demon Good, you know, let's get rid of the demons your demons gone, but that heart attack medical That's the wrong way to go about it.
Oh, you're not supposed to like be quite so you can talk to them Take a drink or looking at you and there's like a gun I got stuff to say But and keep in mind to that when we do go do this stuff There are some major safety precautions do you do when we do do do do? No, but like for sure get rid of the seriousness. Well, let's talk about the Amityville spoon. I do have one of the Amityville spoon I want a spoon and yes But it did not come into my house and talk to a lot of precautions on the Amityville spoon We've actually come across quite a few cursed objects and objects with object attachments Well, like the creepy doll that I bought and I asked castle about 800 times is everything attached to it?
Is this good? Yeah, it was clean, but like for instance the Amityville spoon I know what the Amityville spoons are I know where they came from I know the history behind them I know the experiences great Paschal's had I know the experiences Chungus had I know the experiences that Brendan is sad with those spoons And so I wanted one because again we do do presentations and I decided to do do do do do do do do do do presentations and have done have done and we're gonna do the future so we do presentations But it's a great show piece for that and so I got one of the Amityville spoons and I had plans on how to start safely Not in my home, but I ran a bicycle assault But I Did you eat your lucky trims with it yet? No, not yet. I did stay in the case But I took some precautions and quite frankly I had I had ready inspected before it ever came anywhere near inside my house And basically she said after I was done with doing what I did to it After I had my way with the spoon after I did some things I knew it I knew it helped me get any negative energy with it or any attachments with it I had brandy look at it She said there is a negative energy attached to the spoon itself, but there were no attachments And that being said at that point I was okay bringing it in I still will probably end up storing it in a special manner to keep it from being an issue But when we do deal with things like Pope Oh the haunted clown and things of that nature there are some precautions are taken before and after we do that type of thing It's not we don't just run in like oh hey, it's Annabelle, you know and yummy.
Yeah, and like use it like you like flossing See me Good Put the cow back in the barn and lovely has arrived to the podcast Oh Let's talk about the unsafe thing I did yesterday Spirit or I guess he's not new he's been there for a while, but he's starting to show himself more He's calling himself Lucy's boss last night I named him Jerome jr. J. J for short Lucy's boss Lucy's boss. He's actually he's saying he's in charge He's if you listen to the family tree episode It's a different than Larry.
Yes, this is a family tree This is a family tree if you listen to our last episode where we're at family tree here Corey talk about the tall skeleton figure looking thing He was there last night and I asked brandy where he was and she told me and I kept walking backwards until I got I'm like am I standing on top of him yet? I kept asking until I got basically I'm like am I standing at him It's just like yeah, and I started rubbing my ass in the air and I just run my ass on you now what and then I immediately got a Computation my mouth and I'm like probably should have done it. Yeah, and I said brandy like good for now I was saying I looked at brain. I said that wasn't safe at all And it wasn't I would not recommend doing that but keep in mind generally when we deal with stuff like that there The Titanic again, yeah, we're for some feedback or what from one other phone on the table.
I do I don't have a lot of vibrate. I'll make a noise it would make a big loud noise anyway Or it could be my phone was it a vibrate no no Titanic is just a right But there's some things we do so again, and I'm sorry if I'm making whoever feel bad like I said I'm not gonna name it's like I can't even think of the name off the top of my head That's right. Don't worry, but don't be stupid. We don't know your name John Doe.
Don't be stupid John Doe And for anybody who's interested in going ghost investigating I'll tell you right now Here's the thing if you're interested in getting involved in doing what it is we do as far as going investigations Go to public investigations. There are a ton of them. We're gonna have to jump on on a future show I've already talked to him about it. There are a lot of public investigations out there fact I would almost at this point say there's too many public investigations out there and by too many I mean you can find Five any given week every weekend you can find somebody doing and some are really good groups Some are really sketchy groups.
It's really hit or miss I would definitely recommend if you're looking to start investigating go with grim ghost wars And that's what I'd recommend to or a paranormal you those are the two consistently public groups that put together Haunts that you're gonna be all they focus on is public events Apparently you will actually both of them actually do they they take the time to sit with you and actually show you how to investigate properly Paul Wheeler's the man yeah, and Jerry home with a paranormal you now those are two good places to start and to be honest with you I would probably spend a couple years doing public investigations until you're really really competent before I even consider a private investigation And at that point I would probably start looking for groups if you can't find one never investigate by yourself Yeah, never never never never never never and but until you really have got a ton of experience Don't put a private residences you're gonna cause a lot of problems if you're going into somebody's home and you don't know You're doing you can potentially make things much much worse for those people than If you hadn't gone at all before and so yeah, I would encourage anybody who wants to parent on the best gate not yourself out do it It's fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a great experience. You're gonna see some neat things The private residences and I'm not saying don't do private residences I'm saying don't do it until you really really know you're doing that You can't emphasize that enough you have some of the tools of the trade and you know what you're doing Yeah, it takes some experience with you So now that I've harped on that for way too long Let's talk about sorry never over talk about any seriously I talk can I just mention one thing before we have one and I might have missed this because I was checking my phone But don't ever investigate your home you might have left there But if you don't do it the correct way you can invite stuff in that wasn't already there In this group here, I know we have investigated yan's home on one occasion and again keep in mind We've got a ton of experience doing private residences But we investigated That's a bad throw let me throw this to you to try some of my life Let's just learn to see my way.
I just got some truck pedals crystals But when we investigate yan's home we had hundreds of private residences under our belt when we investigate yan's home I mean and I have it's not a mystery if you've been listening, but I do have two spirits that live in my home And so we were speaking specifically to them and we didn't do or say anything that invited anybody else in Part of it is just a psychological aspect because I mean do you really want to know if there's something in your home because if you investigate you're gonna find out Go to our bad. It's probably gonna come forth if you start looking for it. Well, it's like I found out last night Not on purpose it the information just came out There's a spirit that it's not for anything that I've done that she just apparently saw me and felt that I need a protection So she just started following me around and she ended up giving me some information last night Which is very personal and close to my heart So I'm gonna say what it is on the show yet because there's still people in my family I need to talk to about it. Yeah, Tim Burstat tears in the investigation, which is really it's too unusual because it's their most I think it's cried every investigation lately.
I don't know what it is like I can feel their Everybody family tree last night probably thought I'm like the most insensitive bastard in the world because something Tim's only gets up Just like sobbing and runs out and I'm like I'm gonna finish up this microphone like five minutes later Hey, go check on Tim. Go check on Tim. Um Sorry, I'm eating math Really hope that cop that pulled me over today doesn't listen to this or blue raspberry rock candy You'll know in 20 minutes Yeah, I actually told the group that after Tim left I said because I actually thought that after about 30 seconds I thought they're gonna think I'm an incense at a bastard well you are so I mean and I told them I said You know I've been on investigations with him and oftentimes spirits will Bob emotions on him usually it's anger or extreme sadness And so I suspected something like that except for the house we went two couple weeks ago It was extremely happiness like I felt how happy that guy was to be able to see his niece or in this case He was like a father figure to her he was extremely excited and joyful that he was actually able to communicate with her And it's funny because anybody knows Tim on any level Tim was a big tough guy I mean Tim's a kind of guy who'd kick you ass three ways from Tuesday if you looked at him crossways I may have threatened castle on more than one occasion Yes, and I take those threats to heart because Tim is much bigger than I am and I look I'm doing the eyes when I threaten them to Then I usually talk to him he can be scary always because not but You know I've seen Tim get really emotional which is totally out of character on some of these investigations And so like I told the group last night said yeah, it's just that happens I've seen it happen and it's just it's time of the month But that's kind of par for the course of who want to talk about some investigations now? Sure, I say it's we've had so many special episodes and we've had October's been horrendously busy fact my wife is probably about ready Can't we because I've been busy?
I know every single day off I've had like this entire month Well, and then I haven't been on hardly any investigations this month because I've just been busy with other stuff But that's all past I can actually go on residential We did that residential twice just because the first time that I was able to figure out that there's at least one type two there And I needed you guys to come back and help me actually get rid of them I know we've done cleaves cleaves cabin or cleaves house again actually not as cabin his house Yeah, and that was actually interesting because we went we took Hayden there several months ago to kind of clean it up and Cleaves sent a picture and I've actually posted the picture on our website And there's you can see a face that just showed up on a camera of his that the camera is actually off and whatever it is Turn the camera on and you can see the face like right there And so we actually went to a house in the same city that cleave lives in because the guy had seen something like the first demonic selfie Yes, let me take a selfie We went to another house that somebody called and had something happen We showed up and this guy he was both relieved but at the same time I'm thinking he's gonna think we're idiots. Can we show up and we spent all of 10 maybe 15 minutes tops at his house now We showed up we took Randy in there We started vestigae actually broke up the equipment and after about 10 minutes I thought I'm not getting anything because usually you can get something after a few minutes even if it's just a K2 bump or Something and I got I started getting a little bit on the ghost meter probe But after about two seconds I said to Brandi says that any and she goes yeah, that's Annie And so I'm like, oh, okay, and then after a few more minutes after Brandy watch this flail around like a bunch of dumb fat kids She came in and said I'm gonna fit all of them fat kids are I? Brandy came in and said look there's nothing here guys Whatever he saw because he'd seen like a door knob wiggle like a month or two prior Said it was just some passing through because there's nothing here in this house at all Which is actually pretty rare believe it or not and so after about 15 20 minutes in this guy's house We're like yep, thanks for playing we're you know You got nothing here and he was relieved because he was kind of freaked out And so we ended up going out of cleaves since we've got the demon selfie and interestingly enough the last time we've gone to cleaves He's not quite a bit of stuff there when we went there this last time he had one spirit in the home That was it which was amazing in and of itself and we actually I wonder her type Larry it was Larry it was a time three and a half Yeah, Larry's like a three and a half Larry's an incredibly powerful type three that we've been with often on for the last couple years at Cleaves House But Larry was the only spirit there he makes the Latin happen He makes a lot happen and I don't like the Latin he did this time he wasn't using text messages. He just was making her speak Latin That one was one where it was we got rid of him again It was actually pretty easy that time around getting did you hear that on the what you like?
I didn't I'm in my man. I'm kind of fat. Okay. I heard something.
That's the third time. I've heard it Just so you know, okay, that's kind of a well if somebody hears that tells words out in the podcast I go back and listen to it We're too lazy to edit out lip smacking or candy rapping. We're not as professional as some of the other podcasts Though we are slowly upgrading our system. Yes, half our mic sure new half of our mic sure old and I think eventually we'll all have new mics But we're not forcing anybody because they're kind of expensive The gallery was all that was left and we've actually we've done a lot we did three in one night I can't remember what night it was which ones we did but we've done a lot of investigations this month a lot of new eBps I'll be some later tonight on the live radio run in hell we're gonna do them on this episode But it seemed kind of redundant to do double eBps When they're doing you're gonna hear the exact same eBps because you guys have heard some of our best stuff from the past And the new ones most of the good ones are gonna be on their show tonight.
We'll come back and do some more eBps probably next month So you're free to send me back any upstairs. Sorry, I think but the most professional podcast your folks We got better microphones to pick up all the more sounds so real quick Let's just talk about that. We actually the two investigations this weekend both of the family tree Yeah, let's just touch on the one we do that. Yeah, I don't know we kind of full set that up Yeah, that would be Tim now We decided to go ahead and do as quasi private quite quasi public it was pretty much wisps, but we also just invited It's kind of a friends and family we let people invite people and we had some special invites that we brought in I think we had about eight people the first night and what we're putting you and mrs.
Castle There was ten of us and the second night there was fifteen I like to keep it small at that location some people will try to pack it to like 30 40 people I think that's too many you can do too many for that look you can do 30 there, but it's gonna be tight If you're doing 40 there, you're just being a money-grubber because there's really no way you can reasonably pack 40 people in that venue And have a good investigation But it was a good number and we actually had some pretty interesting activity and different activity both nights Yes, my favorite was the first night when you decided to cleanse the cursed book Oh, that was that was interesting I can't remember that because I would have forgot about that. No, that's that's we're talking about that right now Let's let's talk about it So anyone that's ever listened to or used the echo box You know that mostly what comes through is just kind of random blips here and there and you will get voices you actually get words This is probably the first time I've ever heard it just nothing but like constant words in a row You did not have any of those blips or any of that normal stuff that you get as soon as it's castle decided He was gonna put salt and basil on the cursed book You heard it playing the day like everybody in the room heard it saying please stop don't stop please like it was begging him not to Put the song based on the book it did not want me to put something based on that book I mean it was just it was just constant words. It wasn't any like the random What was really interesting is that we actually were down there with the echo box before and I decided because that book has been there for while and it's been problematic and everybody wants to touch the book and the book is really not good and We're down there doing the echo box and I said, you know what? I'm gonna do something I'm gonna take care of that book and so I got up to walk away and as I went to get up and walk away The echo box shut off on its own.
I mean it just was a speaker just died Which I've never seen happen before it wasn't a battery issue or anything because it was fully charged There's no rhyme or reason for it shut off it just shut off I was forgot the more interesting part is after that shut off and we got it going again You went upstairs any of you that have seen the dead files episode where that lady described the weird creepy crawly Grimly looking thing she describes it as a shapeshifter Paul with Paranormal veracity actually saw that yeah, he was there with us and he saw it and it's looking pretty bad He actually said the text last night saying the hard times sleeping later that night because he it really got to him He said it was crawling on all fours. He said it was about four feet tall over by the stairs Basically, I mean he describes almost exactly like what that lady with that miles described Yeah Well, he actually sent me text last night because he was gonna come both nights and bow it out last night He was sick and said that you know based on what he's in the first night He kind of wanted to take a step back and kind of reevaluate his life I kid Paul's a die hard, but it really shook him, but then I came back downstairs when I came back downstairs That's when we got to know please don't please don't know stop and it was like crystal clear right in a row right after This is word after word after word when normally you just get the little random like as a blips and like half So what's the background on this book? I have no idea if you go in the basement of that restaurant It's like time hasn't progressed since 1950. There's like a TV down there from Dirt floor and Yeah, there's like probably a two by four.
I mean it's not a finished basement It's a seller Paul actually took a lot of good pictures of that Basement put on the event today. Yeah, if you look on paranormal veracity or looking up on Facebook There's some pictures on there But I mean it used to be a restaurant down there it used to be a bar used to be boxing and it's just kind of like everything It's been down there. They're just kind of left stuff I mean it's almost like over the years years and years of that building's been up there whoever's owned it Has just kind of said oh we're not using this anymore Let's stick in the basement and so there's bottle I mean there's beer cans down there from like the early 60s. There's just all kinds of old creepy stuff I don't know where we're going with that script from the basement.
Anyways the book the book the book I remember when we first saw it I know Ashley was there and she didn't investigation the night before and never saw the book like no one had ever seen the book before Yes, we showed up the next night and I believe which is actually the one that found the book I remember that actually swapping out. She's like I don't know where that came from I've never seen that before it just kind of popped up and I believe what she was going through and it wasn't some kind of like Health book or an amity book like a health encyclopedia from the 1950s if I remember I don't remember exactly And it was kind of an I know it wasn't like it wasn't like anything Yeah, it wasn't like a satanic Bible or anything. It was just a spill some curses and nothing like that and it's got Considerable water damage. I mean the pages are yellow.
It looks really brittle looks like it's crumbling apart We actually we have pictures of that too. We'll probably be both. Yeah, well, maybe I'll use it for the meme for the episode So yeah, we had that happen and then last night What was really interesting is there's a flash like we had a flashlight on speaking a flashlight test And we had it up at one side of the restaurant and it turned on and sometimes the flashlight test every now and then they'll turn on They'll just stay on and you have to actually go and you know Readjust it and get it back to where it needs to be the flash that was on they've been on for probably 30 40 minutes Would you say Tim? Probably and so I just got a point like I was going to shut that flashlight off And so I look at who was with us she got up and walked towards it and brandy actually told us in advance There's a type three that had been messing with us running off and on the JJ was flashlight And so but it was just had been on and so Alika got up and walked towards the flashlight when she got about three feet away from it It just turned off okay, so she turns to walk away from it and she gets a flight from it turned right back on So she stopped turn to walk back towards it and it turned off again and it happened several times To find she's lifted on went sat down But it was interesting because it did it just as you to approach turn off it would turn off on its own It's kind of like whoever well JJ was messing with it essentially messing with her going to turn it off The other thing that was really interesting that we had some activity with both nights was the geophone Yeah, that was actually really interesting Paul had his tablet with the Gphone app on it And he set it up on a chair down hallway and the floors concrete where the chair was sitting and real quick Just what a DFO is is it's basically a vibration meter They're really sensitive We actually had two of them set up one was the tablet one which uses the internal sensors like a phone or tablet How's the detect movement and then the one I have is actually a dedicated GFO Which is even more sensitive than I said up next to it and what they do is they detect vibrations So if you have it on a concrete floor, it's not gonna light up or beep unless it has a pretty good vibration that moves the device I went and stood next to this chair and I was stopping on the floors hard as I could and it was not setting off this Gphone So I could tell you it wasn't anything that we were doing it wasn't us shuffling around in the room We'd be chasing anything like that setting it off.
Well, we weren't even attached to that floor because it was on concrete floor And we were actually on a wooden floor that was not physically attached to that there was actually a break between We're at and that floor was that but it kept periodically beeping There's a couple times where Paul would ask a question and say touch that thing over there and it would like almost on demand Now there's a couple times we did debunk when it would go off But you could hear like a loud truck outside. Yes, but the other times there was no rhyme or reason for that thing to go off and be beeping By speaking of Paul we did have the echo box going at one point Paul goes Can you say something so we know it's not just random words and clears day across the echo box you hear random? We had last night on the spare box when Corey was using the spare box. Well, that was interesting We weren't getting anything.
It was just static. I mean this basement is like a dead zone for FM frequencies Like you're not picking up radio stations like normally when you if you ever use the spare box You occasionally hear words come through from the station that's that Ticham users. Yeah, this was nothing like it was it was I mean No FM was getting in the basement and Corey goes who am I talking to and you hear planes day it was kind of a creepy voice that the master Hmm and then at one point we asked who was in control and it came across just clears day. I am But again, there was no other radio Signal at all it was a pure static except for those two raises that came through and they were clear as day when they did come through I actually had some audible stuff last night as well I asked a question and heard in my left ear No as a clear answer and nobody in the room had said anything and asked brandy can she start said did the spirit say no that we're talking to She goes yeah, I did and I actually physically heard that in my ear But they're both pretty good investigations.
We had some private investigations are pretty good I don't know if we talked about the ping pong ball on any of our episodes You might have talked about it briefly on the bare normal one. I'm familiar with that ping pong ball trick I've something like that in the bar and Tijuana She no, I'm sorry. I Was her name and what got me think about that we actually had an investigation It was an old farmhouse and the people who lived there, you know, I'm just gonna one and willard Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna tease this one we did talk about this one of them. I mean you talk about it Okay, well we won't talk about it What we're talking about he wasn't there.
Yeah, I'll tell you all about it I totally bet that when you get to work tonight castle You're gonna take a little chunk of that rock candy and you're gonna like test it to see if it really was meth or not You got those little meth kits where you drop a little chunk and shake it up and if it changes color I know you're gonna do that aren't you oddly enough that you say that the test kits where you so got like a little sponge on them And you put the sponge on what you think is a method of turns blue it means it's math And I'm feeling that I put the meth on this it is blue Well, it's gonna turn blue because it is blue well than this mate just be mad because that's what the kids says if it turns blue it's meth No, we're gonna. Why am I eating more of this? It's crystallized sugar. Yeah, I hope it's not meth because I was dating half a bag Yeah, I mean to say I'm headed to work here.
I feel it's a little drive home All right, so we're gonna call it an episode tonight and again I know the tone got a little bit grumpy in the middle. This is totally not the episode that we had planned No, it's not and to be honest with you it's an episode It's sometimes we plan episodes a lot of times we plan episodes, but this episode is unplanned and but it's been almost It's been six weeks I think since we've had a sit down and just shoot the bull episode So there's a lot of material to cover but we will be back again in two weeks like I said There will be a chunk of episode coming up in a very near future There's gonna be a joint episode of us in the life on the rocks folks in the very near future So there should be some interesting stuff coming up And if you enjoyed the episodes that we had which were kind of non standard episodes such as the paranormal festival and the killer clown and family tree Let us know shoot us an email if you enjoyed those because we have others of those planned If you guys like those we will do more of them if you absolutely hate them and thought they sucked We will do less of them, but we're not gonna know unless you actually say something So if there's something you want more of let us know if there's something you want less of like Jan Let us know I can say that because she has your headphones off she didn't say that I can still hear you I just can't hear you in my ears and headphones are making my ears hurt because I have a wiggle Is your ear is your big? No, anyway, thank you all have a good night. I'm going to the castle You're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal science Their grown ass adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something