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Mar 21, 2023 1 hr 35 min

Mailbag Special

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This week I'm joined by Darryl Edge of the Cage/Rage podcast to rummage through the mailbag and answer of the listeners burning questions about all things Nicolas Cage, Birds and our worst ever days.

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And as creators, we must provide that. So with a scheduling conflict and a constant fear that I will drift off into the never of the internet, that need to provide weekly content, a new episode for you every time. I'm here this week with a mailbag episode. I'm not going to get it alone.

I've got a little bit of help to rummage around in the sack and answer some questions that you guys have set forward to me. Joining me is a man who's been on his own journey to enlightenment to reach what he calls true cage Nirvana. Oh, is that the front door? That must be him now with a sack full of questions from all you lovely listeners.

Let me open the door and see who it is. Oh, it's only Darryl Edge. How are you Darryl? Oh, the strikes over your voice back, baby.

Let's go. Whoa, whoa, wait a second, Mr. Postman. That looks like heavy sack you're carrying there, Darryl.

Oh, and I've gone blue in the face carrying this load around, and I'm ready to disperse it up in your audiological nethers. What a treat for you all. So how are we going to tackle this, Darryl? I put this up to a few different places.

I put this up to Twitter, Instagram. And I'm not sure if you know of this app, but it's called NGL. It's a kind of app where you can. It feels like, it very much feels like to me an app where they are harboring your data and your information that you pump through this app, the kind of, I don't know, blackmail you because you can get anonymous questions from people.

You see it a lot with any time I see a woman like post this link on her Instagram. You see some of the responses she gets because they're anonymous. It's just absolute filth from rotters going like, you know, I fancy to use for years and I want to do some disgusting things to you. But yeah, I use this.

I didn't get any of that because I'm a 31 year old boarding man. So I don't think anyone is having discussed in fantasies about me. But yeah, how do you want to tackle this? Should we flick between the different platforms to get through some of these questions?

Because let's be honest, some of the ones on NGL are pretty fucking weird and specific. Well, as the second 31 year old man in this conversation, no one's asking about our only fans page and rightfully so. Yeah, I think we flip between the three. I think we Corrine and Ricochet, like the proverbial pinball machine.

And we see where this mailbag takes us. We'll see how far down the Hessian sack we can grab post from and see what we can pull up to the surface. Right. So as my guest, do you want to pick one out of the sack first of all?

And then we can get to lovely. Let's have a look here. With the NGL ones, there was a lot of, you know, I think we discussed this, a lot of potential bots questions, not necessarily so much cage related. I think there's one that we can, we can crowbar and make it cage related.

Worst movie you've ever watched. Yes, we can make that cage related. Do you want to start off in a bad mood? Then we're going to go for worst movie off the bat.

Worst movie ever watched. This is the thing, there's a sort of beauty about a bad movie. There's something just, maybe this says more about me, a person, but there's something just delightful about like an absolute grot bag of a film. I think we're talking about worst cage movies.

Now, obviously, my, I'm of the opinion that he's never made about movies. So I have to rephrase this is what is the least good movie he's ever made. And I feel like I've said this before, but I think I have to go with Left Behind. I think it's the only cage movie to date where I've had to pause this, just rub my fingers across my eyes and I audibly, I just went, oh, fuck.

But yet it's a movie that I still remember. Well, that is the thing about that film is that I'm not sure if it does fall into that so good. It's so bad. It's good camp just because like it is really poorly made.

There's plot holes throughout the wazzo. It's got probably the worst Photoshop ever with that family photo. Like Christ, yeah. I'm exactly the one he's talking about him and Martin McFly's mum from Back to the Future Never met.

And you can tell that from that photo. It's god damn awful. And I think the thing that kind of, I don't know, really tickles me the wrong way about that film. It's kind of religious propaganda as well and kind of like, I don't know, it's all a bit like, it's a little bit icky for me.

And the fact that there's a new one come out, have you seen that there's a new Left Behind film? And it stars Kevin Sorbo. Oh, fuck off, Sorbo. Fuck off.

Hercules and so. We all enjoyed you on Channel 5 as Hercules, all right. We all enjoyed Hercules and Adventure. And then you got Twitter and shit, all on your legacy.

Fucking Sorbo. I think I saw one of the things like that. I think I saw the poster for it. You know, you're just blindly scrolling through social media.

My brain didn't even comprehend it. I was like, I don't recognize Left Behind. That's Hercules. What?

Sorbo, Sorbo, Sorbo. Didn't have time to process it at all. Part of me wants to watch it. I know I never will.

I know I never will. I think, I mean, if it ends up like the first one, the most baffling thing for me, you know, I suppose fair blade to the people who negotiate these heels and whatever, the most baffling thing to me when I watch it is that it was on actual Netflix. This was just a film you could watch on actual Netflix. I don't know if it's still there.

But I don't know, Netflix will convince you anything. Well, it's a rare one. It's a film that shares shares some DNA with the we've taken in the kind of driving force of what people want is to go to Europe and watch you two, which is right. If we've learned anything from cinema, it's if you ever invite you to watch YouTube in Europe, don't fucking go because either you'll be you will be stolen or you will, you know, enter the apocalypse.

So you'll be the damned on Planet Earth, Jotene. And I have to share a surname with a band member of YouTube as well. I will stress that me and the edge. No relation.

Don't know the man. Not Uncle Dave. Yeah. Uncle Dave.

Not Uncle Mr. V. You know, the artist formerly known as Edge. You know, how to, you know, we all have to take first names now because the was taken.

Reprove the edge. Willy, I think you two actually my uncle's favorite band. I always knew there was something off of that and I didn't like, if you're listening for some reason, Andrew, then it's banter. It's banter.

Yeah, there's, it's cage. I'm trying to remember this like cage is like Jack Black hair in this as well. Yeah, it's not his best look. I think I think it's one of his worst because he, as somebody who kind of never seems to just turn up and take a paycheck, this is the one film where it really does feel like that.

Like I think he could have easily been replaced with a cardboard cut out of his outfit. It would be just as kind of gripping. So this one that he basically did it as a favor for his brother. Yeah.

I think one of his brothers is religious and he's kind of a fan of the books. Yeah. I think it's wrong. I mean, you know, we will sort of sink ages, pages and defend him until the cows come home.

But also never let it be said that he's not a family man and he's not a team player. He will take one for the team. And I, you know what, absolutely respected. I know that I would have done the same.

No, no, no. Oh, yeah. I think that's a fair one. I think some audible mentions or some thinkers, I think, rage or talker-eth.

That's kind of not really cutting the mustard. Bangkok dangerous, really interesting premise, just kind of really, really shonkily put together. And it's not- I talk about bad posters as well. Yeah, it's kind of a sort of a device, the laws of physics, what his hands are doing and like what's going on.

Yeah, that's not some good stuff. What is going on here? It's like a no-one movie in a poster. You just, what the fuck is going on?

I'm confused. I know he's like grey scales or orange streaks in the background. Speaking of the final law of physics, he's hair in this movie. I mean, I sort of joked about it before and just never got around to it.

Just trying to make a definitive list of like best worst Nicholas Cage hair in all his movies. And I think Bangkok dangerous is always going to be the contender for worst of the worst cage hair. That'll next. Another film that I think I remember when I watched next to the podcast was kind of violently against it just because it has like one of the ultimate cop-out endings ever.

And that kind of really wrinkled me at the time. That's a fuckingist film. Everything this is about. And I think the fact that that's got some great talent in it.

And a kind of great premise. And it's just squandered. So I think that might upset me. Yeah, I remember talking about next on my podcast, to me, my guest Mike Reed at the time.

We were sort of saying, you know, it's one of those films that is up until the last minute of that fucking ending. It's surprisingly good premise if you ignore his hair. And I said, it's one of those where like I think this, if they try to revisit the property now, I think as a TV series, there's like my legend, all the cop, all the detective that can see into the future kind of thing. It's like, I think there's a my legend that.

Yeah, but the ending was just an absolute cop-out. It was sort of, I'm trying to think, I mean, the films where Nicholas Cage has bad hair do more often than not turn out to be. All right. Like, I think like drive angry as well.

That was a film I thought was going to be not the absolute drizzling chits. I thought it was a movie. But I enjoy, I enjoy drive angry. Like, I still don't understand the ending.

I know we've talked about this before. I don't know why he just pretended to die. So we didn't have to look after a kid, which is, which is just incredible to me. And there is, there is a kind of pantheon of like, so bad, they're great Nicholas Cage films.

I guess what one of them we've talked about here on this podcast is dead full. Oh, yes. Like, yes, it kind of really defies everything. And like, for all its shortcomings, it's great.

And it's really fun and rewatchable. And Cage kind of steals the day with an absolute kukubin on his performance. Yeah. To this day, I still don't really know why the hell he was shouting about Sam fucking Peck and Pa.

I think you have to be accepted at a certain point in your life. Some questions aren't meant to be answered. Yeah. Hey, Ben, turn to no.

Oh, I've got fucking Peck and Pa. They just love it. Yeah, let's tell this train of the NGL questions. And I'm going to get the first one we got asked was tell me random facts.

And I just wanted to take this to share a fact about Nicholas Cage that I always love. Some of you may know this and might not know all of the details, but Nicholas Cage at one point in his life owned a dinosaur skull. And he bid for this dinosaur skull and won the bid against the one and only Leonardo DiCaprio. But that is not all.

That is not all. Once Cage owned this on the skull, there was a twist in the tail because he was contacted years later to say that that skull was the property of the country of Mongolia and was actually stolen. Okay, Chatshu, return said stolen skull to Mongolia, which is an absolute kind of national treasure film in itself, right? It's kind of like national treasure in the Mongolian skull.

I think the thing I did, you know, like a mini-series documentary about Nicholas Cage, that the whole episode on his purchases, just a quick Google. I mean, this is one of those stories that gets covered like every three to five years or something. It's about $276,000, $186,000, back in 2007. So at the time of recording, it's been about 15, 16 years since Skullgate happened.

So, you know, I fully support anyone's right to buy a prehistoric animal skull. Legally, of course, I'm not stolen from a country. I hope at one point in his life he's able to replace that skull with an animal of his choosing, again, legally and ethically sourced. I'm not saying that Nicholas Cage is a poacher.

Like, there's that fake picture of like, it was incredible. He was in Brant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He put some experience into that one.

You know, you know, quickly, tracking back the films that I actually enjoyed that I thought were going to be absolute drizz. Primal, I enjoyed Primal. Skulloa and O'Boat. It's con air on O'Boat.

Yeah, I mean, he's got, he's got one in bath. Yeah, I think a lot of these have been sold. He owned like the, I think it's like the Lower E house in New Orleans. The reason for buying that is that he said he wanted to write the great American horror novel.

So bought the most haunted house in America and then didn't start the novel and sold the house. He was like, yeah, yeah, anyway, the novel. I bet it's not the house. I mean, I'm in some financial strike right now.

Like, I'm sorry, demons. It's me, you boy. Gonna have to respond to the great American novel. Life for the living has happened.

We will adjourn in 20 years when the moon is highest. I imagine that's where he went with that. But it's fascinating. He bought the whole house.

He's been on actual tracks for the whole at grail. I know, like you said, he said he's an angler file. He sort of loves, you know, England and stuff like that. So I always love that story of him just going into a pub in Glastonbury and like New Year's Eve.

If you live in Glastonbury, obviously, Glastonbury is, for those who don't know, a place where in England, where just weird things happen, is kind of the heart of the hippie land. The chance of you seeing Nick this cage on any given day is low, but it's never zero. For that reason, I do want to move to Glastonbury. It is just a town filled with absolutely extreme, extremely like an episode, but wonderful, brilliant people.

So I just love to go visit Glastonbury and just breathe the air that Cage has also been hovering up himself as well. So where shall we go next? I've got a couple of questions here that came from Twitter. Darryl Bear from Southern Double Deep kind of asked us four questions.

Should we work away through these? Do you want to read out the first one, Darryl? Have you got that to handle? Do you want me to follow?

I don't think we've ever spoken properly, but shout out to another Darryl great name. You know what you're doing? So they've certainly been asked these before, but what film would you love to see remade with Nick of this cage? Have you got something that comes to mind?

Well, in terms of remakes, I think I sort of alluded to this before in terms of a director I'd love to see Nick of this cage work with, and that is Sam Raimi. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the original trilogy and I've got nothing but love and respect for Bruce Campbell, but I would love to see Nick of this cage in the evil dead. I think that would be just incredible. I think it would be the most extreme thing you've ever seen.

The idea of Nick of this cage, again wielding a chainsaw but fighting deadites, trying to destroy the Necronomicon, I think would be just fascinating. You know, I'm not saying I have to be an extreme remake or a shot for a shot remaker or anything, but put Nick of this cage in the cabin in the woods, you know, as you've seen with Mandy, and I think that's just a recipe for success right there. That would be really interesting, but I think, I don't know, does Mandy not cover that ground? Really?

Like, do you know what I'm saying is I want a Mandy sequel, all right? Yeah. So I'll just answer the next question, but you know, it's an all encompassing answer. Yeah, that is a great one.

Yeah. So yeah, what film does that a sequel? A Mandy kind of evil dead to style. Do you know what I mean?

Like this one, we're going more comedy with it. And it's somewhat a remake, somewhat a continuation of the story and it's going to be good bananas. Would be great. I think for remake, I don't know.

I'd like, yeah, I would love to see him in a shot for shot remake of the cabinet of Dr. Caligari, just because I feel like that would make his life right. Kind of that would kind of make him the happiest man in the world. Cabinet of Dr.

Cajunari. Yeah, what's there for the taking? Apart from that, I'm trying to think it's really difficult to kind of, is what do you want to see him do? Do you want to see him do something that is kind of very much in his will house?

Or would it be great to kind of, I don't know, find something like, like, I think, I think Jimmy Stuttrell, and I know he kind of did it with the family man, but I'd love to see him. I know it's kind of sacrilegious to say this, but imagine it's a wonderful life with like a cage, like at the center of that, I think would be. Yeah, it's no more sense we've had a cage Christmas movie. Yeah, and kind of cage, like really leaning into that sincerity and kind of, I think, I think there's the darkness in that story as well that Cajunari got within him and can really utilize as well as this kind of, I don't know, charm.

Like, because when he does, like, if you think of like those early 90s movies, like it could happen to you or honeymoon in Vegas, he's this kind of charming goof in those movies. And I think he kind of does have a sliver of Jimmy Stuart to him, although he kind of went off on a different path and then type kind of Tom Hanks course corrected him to take on the role of like the modern Jimmy Stuart, like, but yeah, I think it's a wonderful life would be great to see Cajun the role in the lead. Yeah, I think it's been a while since we've had a knot that he's not ever this, but like, you know, your classic charming family man kind of lead role from him. And I don't know if that's the kind of thing that he's really interested in at the moment, like the feel good sort of family movie, but you know, Cajun comes in forms and seasons and maybe that season's long since past maybe that's not what he wants these days.

I mean, he's going bloody A24 now, that's the case that we're getting. Finally. And you know, the A24C, that's a stamp of approval. So that's what's called pre-core spinoff.

You're saying you'd like to see a Mandi sequel. Is it just that or have you got anything else on your mind? When I was thinking about it, I think with Cajun a lot of his films are fairly contained and I'm often happy with the way that of Cajun's films go. I think it's been off, you know, there could be something, Mandi got a children of the New Dawn.

I think, you know, there's a lot of ground a lot of ground cover there, Jeremiah Sands as well, potentially a lot of scopes to sort of explore that character a bit more even his bloody robes and his winking what he's all through his music career. Sequals and pre-calls. I mean, going back to what we were saying early about being disappointed with the way that next ended, you know, that's that story did not finish. That story did not finish.

We're holding ending to that, however you want to do pre-calls. I don't know. That's a difficult one. Yeah, I like just because I'd love to see him work with him again.

I would love to see some kind of meta sequel to adaptation, like I think that would be that would be absolutely nuts to see. Jeremy, like the kind of like some kind of I don't know that Cajun probably well, I don't know, well, at least this time he would only have to play the one role, right? Since Donald Kaufman died at the end of adaptation. So he wouldn't have to play the one who's yeah, he would have to do the dual role, but I think that would be that would be really interesting.

Or I don't know as for yeah, I think I speak for many okay, I would love to see love to have seen that third national treasure movie. I'd love to see that. Like something like that. Of course, of course national treasure three is in the works and obviously yeah, there's other stuff like a sea I would love to have seen a sequel to Connor at the time.

I think now it's kind of it's gone past it. I think if we ever see anything happen with the the con air franchises it would be now would be like a legacy sequel where like I don't know Cajun's like called back as some kind of like a divisor. Do you know what I mean? Like the same things happened again.

Who's the one man who knows about this and like it's like we know Cameron Pone is like Jeremy, I said, I'm going to go back. But he's like kind of like he's all old and disheveled and like he's advising he's almost like the the Larkin said to this. Don't feel like John Cusack probably. He didn't particularly like the first go round.

So I don't think he'd be back for a legacy sequel. Yeah, I think all just go the complete opposite direction go like full in the chat age but Connor in space. Yeah, that was I think I think Simon West has said that's the only place it could go next that would have to be in space. So yeah, Cajun's I don't know the warden of some space prison and shit goes down.

I have that. Cameron post shipped his family to the moon. He's like, I love you to the stars and back Casey. So I'm taking you to the moon.

I always think about the way Connor and he'd like the first time he's door to see him is when he's emerging from the wreckage of Los Angeles covering blood. I was like, yeah, this is a feel good moment. Right. But now he's going to emerge from fucking moon rocks and like, and I'm like, oh, I'm going to go.

So yeah, I think send it to space. Why the why the F not. I suppose we're talking about prequels as well, potential prequels. Like looking at drive angry again because they have the whole idea that like hells are giant prison, which I thought that's a really interesting idea about, you know, you just don't see hell sort of really perceived that way.

I mean, hell prison. Come on, Hollywood. It was right there. How are you escaped?

Always time in hell prison? You know, I think, you know, yeah, that felt that felt budgetary, right? That kind of really felt like, yeah, we're just going to go over all of the health stuff. Like, we're going to scare over some of the most interesting aspects of this, of this world.

And then just have what's his face fucking 50 50 grinding a giant fuel tanker instead. So, you know, take what you can go. The next question Darrell had for us was, are there any genres you feel like cage has been underserved in? Like, what do you feel like, age?

I don't know, what does he not do enough of? What would you like to see him do more of, I guess? This is the kind of smart question that only I fella Darrell could come up with. I don't know, because he, you know, in a cage, he does a lot of genres and like you say, he doesn't sort of phone it in and he does a lot of stuff well.

I mean, I don't know that I particularly say he's been undeserved about it, but he excels in a horror film. Like he does, he suits the genre like really, really well. I think I saw someone tweet, you know, could cage make claim to be the first like horror action star, which I was like, it's got a ring to it. It's got a ring to it.

And obviously, we're talking about this with Renfield just, well, you know, weeks, weeks away. And I know I've said this before and I've, if Cage was prevalent in, you know, the 30s and 40s, I think he would've been up there with Yohama horror stars and stuff like that. So, I think horror is a genre that could have used him a long time ago. I think he would have turned a lot of stuff down there in the 90s and noughties and all of that.

But I'm glad we're getting more of that stuff within now. I mean, you know, I think I would have liked to have seen him. I think maybe he had like one more action film in him. I know he'd eat.

Oh God, why can't I not think of it now? You know, the big sort of mega action one with like, it's alone and all of that. Oh, the expendable, he's turned that every time, I think. Yeah, yeah.

I think it would have been fun to see him in an expendable's but at the same time, I don't think he needed to do an expendable's maybe he's 90s, hey, day would want more action movie. I think would have been a would have been nice but you know, we got we got a lovely thing. We got rock, we got car now, we got face off. You can't complain.

You can't complain at that. I think I think some of it because he really did kind of spread himself all over the place in his early career. And I think I think something we're lacking nowadays. And I think it's probably because we're not we're lacking in these kind of films.

But I would love to see him in like a really sincere and earnest like romantic film. Like now, like I think that's something he's he's underserved in. And I think that's probably because we're underserved in yeah, that's especially with aging actors like Jeremy that or everything that is kind of romantic is a romantic comedy and kind of made by algorithm for Netflix or whatever. And it's kind of like, I don't know, I think he's great in like Moonstruck, a really romantic film.

He's really great in city of angels, kind of like like, I mean, he kind of does he does get that that romance like he's kind of I don't know, he feels like he's got those tortured soul characters still in him and he's kind of doing projects that I like that. But yeah, I'd like to see him in, I don't know, even I'd like to say return to romcoms as well. Because I think he did some rom coms in the early 90s, which were fun and he's kind of fun in them. So it would be great to see him kind of dip back into that world.

I know that I don't know, like Nancy Myers is doing a project that kind of just got shelved from Netflix, but she's shopping that about. But I don't know, imagine Cajun like a kind of as good as it gets or something like doing like a late a day like Jack Nicholson's star role or something. I think I think Cajun of romcom would be would be great. Or I don't know, yeah, something something something like that.

Something like Heart is comedy. I mean, that is really accessible, I think would be great. Because yeah, obviously, a bearable weight of massive talent was was a comedy, but that felt like it kind of had a couple of layers for the everyday film watcher to get on board with. I mean, it had that meta element to it, had all these kinds of in jokes to know Nicholas Cajun talking about fandom and felt very modern current, whereas yeah, he wants something like something like a timeless comedy.

Like, I feel like that would be that I'd like to see him in some more kind of traditional out and out comedy. Yeah, I think Cajun is always a bit, doesn't get the credit he deserves for a lot of the comedies that he's done and he's doing as well. And I've said on this very podcast before, one of my favourite Nicholas Cajun is the weather band like a dark comedy, which is I think one of his most appreciated turns as well. So, you know, I think what I'm saying is broadly, you know, horror, which we are, you know, slowly getting more of.

And I think just I think there's a saying like comedies as well, he can do comedy very well. And I would love to see some more of it. I mean, I know we've got dream scenario coming up, which seems like it's going to be in that in that avenue. Sign out that the Lord, the Lord give us the Lord, take us away asking you shall receive.

I just will see what sort of happens with Renfie as well, because I was, I was expecting that to be a lot more of a comedy the way it was sign-obsisized, everyone say that, and then you get the train was like, Oh, no, he's a bloody villain. Yeah, bloody villain in this. Hey, I reckon there's going to be some laughs. Like, I don't know, I'm excited to see that with paying paying public.

I think that's one I'll kind of go watching the cinema just to kind of build the temperature of what kind of jet mean, like is cage getting the laughs? Like, because I'm sure that would get like unlimited screenings and stuff like that. I'll probably visit one of those and kind of just yeah, go catch it on other evening, just randomly and kind of almost watch the audience more than the film as well. Yeah.

The curse of being a cage friend. Like, do you like it as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Validate me, validate me, please.

Yeah, it's like that meme in the corner. No one knows I have a cage podcast. Like sickos, that's what we all really sickos, aren't we? They should know, but I'm too anxious to tell them.

So let's, so Daryl had one more question and it's a pretty spicy one, no pun intended. And it is if Nicholas Cage, where's Spice Girl? Which Spice Girl would he be and why? I mean, he can't be ginger spice.

We have to roll that out. That's a reserved Spice Girl for us in the redhead community. And I don't know why, you know, it, you know, it accused me of what being proud of my country feeling like that. I just don't want to see Nicholas Cage break to the Union Jack.

All right. I don't like I'm burying the war dead here. I mean, sporty Spice, I don't know, scary. You know, they could possibly make an argument for scary.

It's not baby Spice. He can't be baby Spice. No, I mean, he's never, he's never looked like a giant really. I mean, I mean, I mean, he was talking about, he's like 20, even when he was like 17 in 18 in Valley Girl, he looked about 25.

Do you mean pushing 30? So like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, posh, he's not posh. I think by default, he's scary Spice. And that is just because I think he has to be scary Spice.

He has to be I think it look great in animal print as well. Yeah, he has to be he has to want some great animal print as well. I think there's that photo of him in a kind of like a there's going to say, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that he does not own some kind of animal leopard print leather jacket or hats or combination. Because lastly forget, the man's got a drip.

All right, I'm a trip the man very much has a drip. And I think there's a there's a frightening quality about him. Obviously, yeah, we're about to see him play Dracula. How how does anyone be more frightening than play the Lord of Darkness himself?

Yeah, I think I'm caught adjourned. Cage is scary Spice. Cage is scary Spice. Well, let's hop on over to Instagram.

And this is a real picture of a question from Mark Hoffmeyer from movie films and flicks. Which necklace cage movie would be made better with a jet ski action scene? Oh, Mark. Oh, jet ski action scene.

This is one of Mark's kind of favorite things in film. He loves jet ski action scenes. If I remember correctly, Kaiju and explosions. So I don't know how it feels like face off could have had one because there's a speedboat.

There's a speedboat, Chase. Yeah, I don't think he's been out of jet ski in a film. I was trying to think was I don't think he was in the water in honeymoon in Vegas. I know he did skydiving with the Presley's and the Elvis's.

I mean, left behind why not why not throw jet ski chase scene in there or something with the chasing? I don't know. Well, I think the thing is face off is a great film. Currently 91, I believe, or 93 on Rotten Mars.

I think a film that would be made better is where we kind of go down the table and find something that is kind of sitting in the mid to movies and would be made better. I think prima is on a boat already. And I think if that had a jet ski chase with maybe some kind of aquatic animal getting involved, some kind of shark attack or some kind of like snake on a jet ski, do you mean, cages like the snake gets thrown at him. He lobs it snake bites the guy's throat takes him off one of the jet skis.

Would have really taken that film up again and would have really teetered it into top 10 cage movie for me. Yeah, no, what? I don't have a hard time disagreeing with that. If the twist was that the villain was fucking three snakes in a trench coat or something.

Would have fucking pre-cased the diamonds. I don't know. Whatever you have. I don't know.

Hellhole the nose. Arc jet skiing around shark was the big shark or something. There's a shoot us by and around the shark kicking off. I mean, I very much just enjoyed prima primal and it's CGI white leopards and all that business.

I think it could have gone to another gear of absolute insanity. I think it was missing a jet ski scene. You know what? I think, yeah, three snakes, Nicolas Cage, jet ski, just explosions.

Why not? Doesn't need to make sense. It's an explosion. I think it'll just find a you.

No, no, outside of prima, I think that's topped it for me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, cheers.

That's an absolute gold dingaroo there. Cheers for Mark for the question. Let's go over to my man, Larry Reed. On Twitter, after your move, Larry, who asked Nick Cage has been passed over for roles in major movies.

What film would you think he would have been the better choice? I mean, Lord of the Rings. Aragorn. Yes.

Yes. If five are extended cut, all films with Nick, this cage is Aragorn. Give me the Aragage cut. You cowards.

I know he didn't want to be away from his family for that long, but sometimes you think about what could have been. I mean, I know he wasn't exactly passed up for it, but actually went off for different reasons, but I still think we could have had Nick, Nick, as Joe, as I can think about what they took from us. Yeah. Joe, as I cage, Aragorn, cage.

I think he was right to pass over on Shrek. Like, I'm not for Nick, as I think, don't get me wrong. But I think about Shrek with Nick, as Cajus' voice, don't go. I think some dreams have to die.

Here's one. Here's one I'm going to throw out there. Again, I think there's a few interesting ones looking at. Right now on a list of six movies that he passed up on.

And one of them, and I've talked about this before on the podcast, because I think it's an interesting one. And it's one that everyone goes like, what? Cage was up for that. No, he wouldn't have been any good for that.

It's dumb and dumber, as the Jeff Daniels wrote. Harry or Lloyd? Which one's Lloyd? Lloyd Christmas.

Yeah, Harry, isn't it? It's the Jeff Daniels' role, Harry, which I think Cajus at that point would have nailed it. Like, especially the stuff he was coming off of, because he wasn't really pigeon-holding anything. And kind of Jeff Daniels had kind of had a similar career.

He wasn't an out-and-out comedy actor, but had comedy chops as well. Like, if you look at like Raising Arizona and the stuff that Cage was doing in the early 90s, he was doing a lot of comedies. So, around that time you've got trapped in paradise, where Cage is not a comedy actor, but he's the strongest comedy performance in that movie. He's kind of out comedies, Dana Carvey and John Lovitz.

Yeah, I mean, what's it, 94? So that was just pre- I mean, when you're Vegas, Carving Tess. So, you know, he was definitely telling the comedies. I think that would have been a natural sort of progression, but obviously Raising Arizona, he proven his comedy chops.

So, you know, I think he would have been really good. And it obviously turned it down to leaving Las Vegas. So, we all know that. So, no, that's the thing with all of this is you are just left with the kind of butterfly effect moments that what would he have had to have given up to do those things.

And it's kind of like, it's a tough one, because it's like, I like the career that he's got, even though there is that kind of 2010s period where, yeah, it's quite patchy, but it's like, without that period, do we get a performance like Pig? I don't think so. I think he has to go through that to get to where he is now, to get this kind of career resurgence and kind of thrust like further into the limelight than he has been for a long time. And I really like that kind of narrative of his career.

So, I don't know if I'd like to kind of, I don't know, mess around with the sands of time, do you know what I mean? It's like the, it's like the, yeah, you go back and change something like, we all saw all the butterfly effect, turn the other, do we want that? Do we want to have to go back to the womb and strangle ourselves? No, we don't.

I mean, everything led us to Renfield, or everything led us to this moment, everything led us to Pig and Mandy. And yeah, as we've discussed that, we'll be on our podcasts and we'll be each of it. You can't have the highs without the lows as well. And it will go down as a storied, fabled career, every decision, every 2010 movie that we've both watched, all led, sort of now.

It's like, I just don't, I just, you know, what, what would you risk? What would you swap out if you have to, you know, go into the heads? I'm gonna have to take the bullet. I'm afraid.

I think you can have to pull that trick in my friend's race. I can't make that choice. I really can't. Great.

So let's, let's kind of, yeah, go over to Twitter and look at some of the questions there on the kind of the first post I did. And we'll start off with, well, yeah, I imagine our screens are the same. So we'll start off with James Rodriguez at Rodder's J04 on Twitter. Yeah, but his question is, if Nicholas Cage played a horror villain that was the face of a franchise, what would be his signature weapon?

Hmm. Well, I reckon you could, you could change the, the Ghost Rider mythology and have him as, as a villain, like that used that character in as a villain. I think, I think, and, and what better kind of weapon than flaming piss that we see in Ghost Rider Spirit of engines? Like, I mean, what movies, what movies, what movies done it since?

No one's had the stones to do it. No, no, no. No, no, no. All fried off from the hot urine bubbling away.

Because as we all know, you're only still holding the balls. Um, yeah, I think hot piss, a flaming chain. Um, I think, you know, it's weapon of the streets, the chain. I don't know.

I'm never going to fight that. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. I think the train, there's some damage with it. There's the old chunk of the game.

There's wrapping it around the fist and fucking leather in some kind of, um, because, you know, my shirt has been done, the knife has been done. I mean, I think he would probably have a hand in the weapon because he's, I think he's, um, outspoken. I'm not being a fan of like the slasher style of horror films. So you'd probably say something like, I can't really relate to knife.

Um, I think he's a spulk probably more effectively than a knife, I think. Flaming spulk. Yeah, well, he just uses his, his, his words. That's that, that's how he gets here.

He's just kind of, he's, he's, he's actually just getting in, in your brain and talking to you. It's kind of, he's, he's, I don't know, or he takes your face off. Like that's it. He just, he's just got a big machine that lays his your face off and he takes it and wears it.

That's, that's his, that's his weapon of choice. And it's the thinking man's leather face is arcade. Yeah. Yeah.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the new generation. All right. Texas, Texas Cage Saw Massacre. You're welcome.

Do you want to, do you want to lead us off of the next question? No. So we had a question from the good folk over at Diabolical Evil Schemes done at Better Podcasts asking, uh, aside from the ones they got, what are some roles in FFC films that would have suited Nick Cage, Talia Shire, Jason Schwartzman? So yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're recasting a Francis Ford Coppola film, Nick Cage in it.

And we can, we can, we can throw entirely shy in Jason Schwartzman. I guess this is, this is more aimed at the kind of the new path of my podcast. So I guess Nick Cage, I think, I think I've kind of talked, I've, I've ever talked about this personally or online. I would have loved to have seen Nicholas Cage play Vincent in Godfather Part 3, the Andy Garcia role.

I know that he kind of auditioned for that role and didn't get it, but yeah, I would love, I would love to see Cage within the Godfather universe. So like him, him as, him as Andy Garcia character, I think would have been, would have been quite interesting. I mean, I'm just sort of having a scan on a Google now at some of the films. I mean, you know, I know it would be very easy to say, I think Jackie does a bit of a cop-out answer because we're getting it.

Well, he would have been great, I think he would have been great as the Keanu Reeves role as well. I think he would have, I think he would have, I don't know if he would have nailed the English accent either, like as Keanu Reeves does not. I mean, if his English accent very briefly, National Treasures 2 is anything to go by. Hello, Gavin.

Bye, bye, wait, wait. But then it just makes me think of a universe where Nicholas Cage died in the Keanu Reeves films and Nicholas Cage was John Wick. That's where my mind has got it immediately there. I mean, what, what, I mean, Jack maybe?

I mean, what do you, 17% of Ron's tomatoes, oh, they don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think that feels aged well. No.

I'm trying to think when the last time I saw that film was, and I think that was a lot younger, when it probably made more sense. I got here as well, we got, no, I don't have to park lips now, maybe, I think. Yeah, some of it is like he would have been too young, right? Park lips now, he just would have been too young.

Yeah, I mean, you can make an argument for quite a few of these films. The Rainmaker, he probably could have been good as the Matt Damon role in that. Like, yeah, yeah, I mean, this is what I mean though. I mean, you know, I want to live in a world where Nicholas Cage is in every movie, so my cop hat answer is all of them, because I'm a coward and I can't commit to answers.

And as for Jason Swartzman and Tally Shire with this question, I just feel like there's like Jason Swartzman hasn't been old enough to be in a Francis what I've done really, and especially ones like I hold my hands up here. I haven't seen any of Francis Ford Coppler's post 2000s movies, so I don't know how he would fit into those. And there's a couple of blind spots for me, some saving them to do on the podcast. I do them.

I don't know, I guess Tally Shire, she's great in everything she's into. She could have, yeah, she could have, she could have popped up, but like, I don't know, I think one of the things that Francis was coped with, really good at his casting people, and like, he's, yeah, he's like, I don't know where they could have slighted in those two, at least I know are in Meguroplus. Cage, unfortunately, is not. I know it was rumored for a period, which would have been absolutely peach, right?

So say, Cage, Cage with Uncle Francis once again, which I mean, FFC is a coward. Yeah, I said it's a coward. I suppose going through his IMDb, I'm sort of quickly realizing that I have a lot of blind spots in the old Francis Ford filmography. You got yourself a film, don't cast.

Yeah, just a lot of blind spots there, but you know, but Cage and Megalophily, one of those films, I got the big casts in them, you cowards. So that's my answer. My answer is there is no answer because it turns out I've seen none of his bloody movies. So next up, we've got Russell Bailey, who asks, which one Nicholas Cage product that never happened would you wish had gotten made?

It's Superman Lives Right, this kind of- It's Superman Lives Right, do it. Yeah, do it. If James Gunn has got the stones, if he's got the stones, he's Superman Legacy film is going to start Nicholas Cage. Yes, please.

Or if it's Legacy, someone's taken over the mantle, it's OK just that the old Superman, right? Yeah, or he's dead at least, you know, Mr Kent on the farm. Or like Tom Cruise has recently said that the flash is amazing. It must be because Nicholas Cage is in it, Superman, right?

It must be. I mean, that's the only reason I'm going to go and watch it. In the desperation that Cage does turn up in a cameo. Because it's the hope that kills you.

I can't say this enough. It's the hope that kills you, ladies and gentlemen. So this is kind of topical with this one. So if he were to join the MCU, what character would you want him to play?

I guess this kind of comes off the back of Nick Cage. We've absolutely barnstormed of an answer at a Q&A where he was asked, like, would you want to... Yeah, we need to get you in the MCU. And he's like, I don't need to be in the MCU.

I'm Nick Cage. I mean, it's kind of like every actor sort of... I think every actor's got some contractual obligation to be in some kind of MCU project at the moment. Part of being like, oh, this doesn't want him to be in it.

Because I sort of put that clip on my TikTok page from the podcast. And honestly, it's just the comment section. 95% of the comment section is just people arguing about whether or not he's actually in the MCU. And I'm sorry, like, I love being a superhero film.

I'm not quite burnt out. Yeah, I'm getting there, but not quite there. But the fandom can fuck off. I'm sick of it.

Yeah, I'm absolutely sick of it. Just enjoy films and show up. Yeah, I'd a tweet kind of go a bit on, yeah, semi-viral. The fact that people I didn't know were replying and people going, wow, when the multiverse in a realm, you're fine that Ghost Rider is now canon.

So he is in the MCU. It's like, oh, we're looking at this. MCU is a very specific thing of when it was created. And the fact that it is this kind of Marvel Studios projects that are all encompassing.

That is not the case with Ghost Rider. They're Sony movies. They're not to do with... He's not in the MCU.

And Ghost Rider is not a part of that. It's pre-MCU. And it's kind of like they were just what they were, do you mean? The Roger Corman Fantastic Four movie does not become canon when they do a multiverse.

You could say that about anything. You could say that any movie in the mood for love becomes MCU canon because any movie could be MCU canon at that point. Jumping is in the multiverse. There's every single possibility.

So fuck you guys. Fuck you with your bullshit. Like, oh, it's actually become canon. It wouldn't.

It wouldn't. It's about into the Spider-Verse, not MCU. It's a Sony animation pictures. It's not the MCU.

I think I have to sort of take that, you know, that Keanu Reeves answer. I'm like, I'm going to point you to my life where if you believe two plus two equals five, I don't go argue with you. Just like, tie yourselves out, have an app, and he's not in the MCU. Grow up.

Yeah. Just stop it. So on that note, who would you like to see him as in the MCU? Ghost Rider.

I don't know. I think you'd have to be sort of one of these. You know what fucking Galactus. Galactus.

After Kang, the Gath of the next mid-back big bad, Galactus is the devourer of worlds. They need someone with stature, grandeur. And you know what, make him make him the MCU's next big bad. Why not?

And he's made reference to it in Mandy, right? He talks about Galactus when they're talking about the planets and what's their favorite planets and he says Galactus. So, so the scenes are out there. The Nick Cage, what universe is real?

So, yeah, I don't know. I kind of, I'd like them to do kind of one-shot movies where they just kind of stand the line. So I guess it wouldn't be the MCU, but like, or like an else world like they're doing with DCU or whatever, do like a grizzled older Punisher and have Nick Cage play the Punisher. I'll have that.

I'll have that movie, please. Yeah. Yeah, just something gritty or just make him an absolute colossal big bad. One or the other, a little one-shot thing or...

One-shot or he is seeded throughout the whole of like, germane like, I don't know, phase seven to nine or whatever and then he kind of fucks everything up and eats the world whole one. Then it's like, we'll hop to another multiverse and start the whole thing again. Yeah, the Marvel reset is coming. This Nicholas Cage is going to be the one to bring in through it and please, we'll mark my words.

Right. And then this one is a very tough question, which I might say for the end because it feels like a kind of end question. So we'll bookmark that. But another question that Russell Bailey has at Russell loves the movie is very much in his will house.

He hopes to see not just a kid's podcast. So he said, would you have Nicholas Cage voice a character in a Pixar, like a jibbly or illuminations flick? Which one are you going for? Which kind of animated powerhouse would you like to see him voice a character in?

No. No, what? I think jibbly. Yeah.

I think I think a jibbly is made for Nicholas Cage. Yeah. I think, you know, I think he, I've anyone, he's going to have an appreciation for that sort of animation style, the stories that they tell. And we found, you know, fantastical those films can get as well.

I think they go hand in hand. Again, like I've just exposed myself here. Jibbly is a large jibbly is a blind spot for me. It's been on, it's been on the watch list for so long, but just never, never got around to it.

But you put Cage in there, it's like a talking, I don't know, bin or something. I'm all over it. I think I'd love to see him in a studio like a movie, just because I'd love to see him as like a stop motion animation character. Just like this kind of, imagine him in like box trolls or or paranormal or something like that.

Yeah. I'd like to see him work with those guys. So I think they're kind of doing, yeah, they did Coraline. So I think they do kind of offbeat slightly macabre projects.

I think, I don't know if they kind of did like Edgar Allan Poe stories for kids, almost and kind of have, or Edgar Allan Poe is a character in one of their stories and have Cage voice him and like, I think that would be pretty great. It's like, or as he gets older, being like a Vincent Price S character, you can imagine him the way he's like kind of elongated face and stuff like that. I think Cage would do a great little like, yeah, little claymation or puppet. Would look fantastic.

Yes, definitely. And then we go to Civico, wrote to Avatar, Avatar, on Twitter, who asked, what role would you cast Nicholas Cage in the Avatar franchise? I'm going to jump off with this and say, I don't know. I barely know any names of any characters from the Avatar franchise.

And I've seen both films. I saw a way of water in iMacs on the 27th of December 2022. And I realized walking out of that screening. I don't know which actors played which roles.

And then looked on, looked online and was like, I don't remember the character names. No, this is not helping me at all. So I don't know. Do you want to see him as a human or do you want to see him as a blummy gooey guy?

I'm going to say something slightly controversial here. I hate Avatar. I apologize, Civico. No, I don't mean to desecrate what you do, but I hate Avatar so much.

I hate it. I saw, I watched the first film when it came out and was like, oh, three things, three things, three things. You can see the blue people fucking right in front of your face the way they into their tails. All it was, is that blue people looked around at stuff and smiled like they were just fucking burning high and they were fucking each other.

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