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EPISODE · Nov 4, 2025 · 1H 47M

Make Flaccid Great Again! | Packers Therapy #489

from Packers Talk · host Dave Erickson, Chris Richards

Another week, another group meltdown disguised as a podcast.Chris and Dave return to process—sorry, celebrate—the Packers’ latest masterpiece of self-sabotage: a 16-13 home loss to Carolina that made Bryce Young look like Joe Montana and turned Matt LaFleur into Matt LaF-Lurex-Body-Spray.The boys start with a heartfelt thank-you to Tom in Germany for his donation and the gift of the word “Flaccid,” which quickly becomes the theme of the episode and, honestly, the team. From there, it’s a two-hour descent into beautiful madness: roasting LaFleur’s “mandatory cardio” play-calling, Jordan Love’s deep-ball delusions, and a defense that bends, breaks, and occasionally self-immolates on third down.They dig into Tucker Kraft’s knee tragedy (“we can’t have nice things”), ponder if Matt LaFleur is the new Mike McCarthy, and debate whether any Packers coach has ever been able to make in-game adjustments without a bye week, divine intervention, or a ghost of Curly Lambeau cameo.Meanwhile, Dave—high on NyQuil and righteous rage—tries to decode LaFleur’s game plan while Chris just keeps repeating “this is fine” like a man in a burning room wearing a throwback jersey.Other highlights (and lowlights):McManus meltdown: Is our kicker broken, cursed, or both?Keisean Nixon watch: Now leading the league in “grabs per drive.”Uniform discourse: Beautiful to sane people, “Halloween costumes gone bad” to SiriusXM hosts.Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks: chaos, NyQuil, and feline participants (shoutout Mango the Cat).Pop Culture Therapy: HBO’s The Chair Company and U2’s Achtung Baby, because what else do you watch after losing to Carolina?By the end, Chris is quoting U2, Dave’s predicting the Rapture, and both somehow convince themselves that the Packers will absolutely beat Philadelphia next week before losing to the Giants by 40.Classic Packers Therapy. Classic coping. Classic flaccid. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/packerstherapyPayPal: [email protected] its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.The guys encourage comments and questions via their Twitter feed @PackersTherapy or email to [email protected] and read and respond to as many as they can during each show.Packers Therapy is a part of the Packers Talk family of podcasts, serving up five distinct podcasts to satisfy the most fervent of Packer fans. Variety is the spice of life, so subscribe to Packers Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow Packers Talk on Twitter and Facebook. 

Chris and Dave unravel the Packers’ baffling 16-13 loss to Carolina in true Therapy style—equal parts fury, humor, and despair. They roast Matt LaFleur’s run-obsessed offense, question Jordan Love’s decision-making, and mourn Tucker Kraft’s injury. McManus misses, Nixon grabs, and the defense forgets how to tackle. From throwback uniforms to U2 deep cuts and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks, the guys find laughter in the ruins. It’s the usual blend of analysis, absurdity, and emotional triage that defines Packers Therapy—now with extra NyQuil.

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