Make Money By Not Chasing Money | Rj Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Emmanuel Umoh, Tchassa Kamga, Lisa Jacovsky | Ep 717 | Throwback episode artwork

EPISODE · May 6, 2025 · 47 MIN

Make Money By Not Chasing Money | Rj Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Emmanuel Umoh, Tchassa Kamga, Lisa Jacovsky | Ep 717 | Throwback

from Outlier's Edge Podcast with Niiamah Ashong

"I believe the greatest way to make money is to not focus on making money, but to focus on a passion on helping somebody." - RossJoin Niiamah (@niiamahashong), RJ Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Lisa Jacovsky, Tchassa Kamga, and Emmanuel Umoh for an inspiring throwback roundtable on leveraging passion over perfection. These authentic leaders share how they've turned personal struggles into thriving businesses while embracing vulnerability and letting go of limiting beliefs.Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world.--Check out the video episode on YouTube!--Timestamps:00:00 - Host introduces roundtable00:05 - Explains Outlier's Edge concept00:25 - Welcomes five leaders00:58 - RJ Kurtz introduces himself01:21 - Discusses Real Talk podcast01:54 - Values passion over money02:22 - Nicole Sandalis introduces herself02:43 - Discusses podcast Revive03:21 - Emphasizes personal healing journey04:24 - Lisa Jacovsky introduces herself04:31 - Award-winning children's author04:44 - Hosts No Limits podcast05:25 - Creates special needs cats books05:59 - Tchassa Kamga introduces himself06:06 - Moved to US in 201806:22 - Publishes poetry collection06:39 - Works as Salesforce admin07:05 - Creates immigration reality content07:42 - Emmanuel Umoh introduces himself08:07 - Hosts Business Talk podcast08:42 - Discusses behind-the-scenes business struggles09:19 - Emphasizes product-market fit importance09:48 - Shares business failure story10:46 - Host transitions to mistakes discussion11:16 - Asks about changed beliefs11:52 - RJ Kurtz discusses passion over hunger12:50 - Lisa Jacovsky agrees with passion13:13 - Mentions children's book dreams13:42 - No MBA needed for success14:36 - Has published 10 books15:53 - Emmanuel Umoh shares nine-to-five limitations16:16 - Business needs more attention17:15 - Discusses business growth phases18:02 - Nicole Sandalis mentions perfectionism mistake18:21 - Analysis paralysis stifles progress19:33 - Tchassa Kamga discusses family support misconception20:12 - Hard work doesn't guarantee success20:44 - Leverage is more important21:36 - RJ Kurtz agrees about family support22:27 - Support comes after success23:48 - Emmanuel Umoh emphasizes smart work24:44 - Discusses LinkedIn strategy improvement25:50 - Nicole Sandalis values community collaboration26:19 - Announces new podcast concept26:42 - Lisa Jacovsky discusses taking chances27:30 - Work smarter not harder28:31 - Host emphasizes leveraging strengths29:38 - Host asks about scary projects32:56 - Tchassa Kamga discusses teaching tech33:37 - Fear of student responsibility34:50 - Lisa Jacovsky shares author collaborations35:21 - Working with unfamiliar author36:02 - Second collaboration opportunity36:54 - RJ Kurtz plans for law school37:23 - High-risk education decision37:50 - Motivated by fatherhood experience38:11 - Wants to help fathers' rights39:03 - Host begins wrapping up39:44 - Final insights shared40:02 - Lisa Jacovsky learns about family support40:58 - Nicole Sandalis feels less alone41:39 - Emmanuel Umoh appreciates passion's value42:49 - Tchassa Kamga recognizes hidden stories44:24 - RJ Kurtz values time leverage45:59 - Host concludes the conversationnter RJ Kurtz's World:Facebook | Instagram | TikTok | YoutubeEnter Nicole Sandalis' World:Instagram Enter Emmanuel Umoh's World: Facebook | LinkedInEnter Tchassa Kamga's World:Facebook | Instagram | TikTok | X | LinkedIn | YouTubeEnter Lisa Jacovsky's World:Facebook | Instagram | TikTokContinue in Outlier's Edge World:Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Youtube | Website | Guild CommunityThis episode was initially published on: 10/11/2024

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