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Aug 4, 2025 33 min

Mandatory RTO...

from Seriously, What Could They Be Thinking? Podcast Hosted by Cindy Goodwin-Sak and Jaime Peters

After two years of proving remote work can work, companies like Amazon are saying it’s time to come back…or get out. But what are leaders really after? Is it more productivity, more innovation, or just more eyes on more cubicles? In this episode, Jaime Peters and Cindy Goodwin-Sak dive head-first into the great Return to Office debate: * Is mandating five days in the office a productivity play or a recipe for mass resignations? * Does in-person time actually fuel innovation or just erode employee autonomy? * Why are leaders doubling down on butts-in-seats when employees are begging for hybrid? * What does the research really say? And what happens to career growth if your camera is always off—or if your commute is wearing you down? With stories, research, and a dose of wit, Jaime and Cindy unpack the complex, sometimes contradictory arguments behind today’s RTO mandates. Are leaders playing 3D chess... or just herding cats? 🎧 Listen now to “Mandatory RTO” and join the conversation. Whether you’re commuting in or Zooming from your couch, this episode is for anyone wondering what’s next for knowledge work. Tune in and ask yourself: Is your leader chasing collaboration…or just control? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatcouldtheybethinking.substack.com

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