Come in! Boy, it's pretty good. We're going to be down to the Westwood for him or we'll be back in a little while. Welcome to Rock Impressions number 42.
Luke continues to play excerpts from insanity number one, a tape from his childhood friend, Mark Harris. Join in. Join in. Check it out.
Check out the tape that Mark sent Luke in 1982. Three. Check it out. You want me to sit here and start screaming at the top of my lungs?
No. Are you making a tape for anybody? You're going to make a tape and just scream on a tape? No.
Really? When you stop and think about it, you're going to send a tape to Luke that's nothing but screaming? No. I don't even think Luke is going to listen to some screeching over the tape.
I started that argument just so you could listen to something interesting. Do you believe? Do you believe? In Peter Pan?
Yeah? Do you believe in Peter Pan? Yeah. That's terrific.
Do you believe in Skippy? Yeah. What about Jeff? Okay.
And you're Tobias? Wait, what? Do you believe in the Rolling Stones? Oh yeah.
Do you believe in the sports section of the Jackson Citizen Patriot? Do you believe in Q106? I hate him. Alright.
Do you believe in red-eyed shoes? In little girls on Sunday afternoon? Er, er, er, er, er, er. That was Mark Blowingous Nose accompanied by his brother Ken on guitar.
Little backup for the nose blowing? Yeah. Also, I want to point out that people might not know this, but when he says, do you believe in Peter Pan? That was actually referring to a peanut butter commercial.
butter commercial. It was out at the time. I think it was if you believe in peanut butter, you believe in Peter Pan. Was Peter Pan the name of the peanut butter then?
Yeah. That must be, huh? Peter Pan? Is that peanut butter?
Do you know peanut butter? He goes to a whole list there, like velvet. Yeah, I was also like velvet. Yeah, Jeff.
Well velvet. Skippy. Uh huh. Yeah, they were all that kind of like.
That velvet better be a smooth ass peanut butter. If that's what it's talking about. Is it still around? You got to wonder.
I don't know. I guess I'm gonna have to look that up. Regional, regional peanut butter. Michigan, 1982 or 2003.
No, I was kind of playing fast and loose with these dates. I don't know. I think maybe the date was from early 1983. Okay.
1983. 1983. Yeah. I was thinking about the guy engaging with Mark that Mark was prank calling and I was kind of like having this light bulb moment, this realization that some people bite when you would do those prank calls back in the day.
Some people would hang up. But the ones who a bite, it's almost like you can't get rid of them. You can't get them off the phone with you. And I had this light bulb moment that that is like, that is, it was early version of social media.
Oh, like a very personal social media. Well, which you know, social media still can be like that too. But it's like, it was sort of like Twitter, but like a one on one interaction with a stranger on Twitter, which does happen, happens to people all the time. Like someone will say something on Twitter, like, gosh, I loved Bob Barker from The Price Is Right.
I'm so sad that he died, which rip. He's dead. You didn't see? I'm joking.
I was like, that's horrible. I love Bob Barker. Just a side note here, Lou was unaware that Bob Barker was still alive. And it only just perished.
When I really wanted my lifelong ambitions was to go to The Price Is Right. Bob Barker was there and then he passed away. I had so I mean, like, I would just watch The Price Is Right. I'm deferting.
But let me finish my thought. But so what I was thinking is someone could say, like, I love Bob Barker from The Price Is Right. They just put that tweet out there. And a total stranger could be like, I love Bob too.
And then they're just like, let's chat about Bob Barker. I mean, this guy in the phone with Mark there, he was game. He could have just sat there all night, riffing with him. He was lonely.
He lost him. He lost him at Red Plaid Shoes. Yeah. And Sunday Girls or something like that.
He was like, girls on Sunday morning. He was like, click, hang up. I wonder people actually ever made friends with someone who prank called them. I don't know.
People made money friends over Twitter. That's true. You know what? I bet people have made phone calls from I'd just say they have.
Well, let's just assume that they have it all started with do you have Prince Albert in a can. We've been friends ever since. It all started with is your refrigerator running. And look at us now.
We've lifelong friends. Can we talk about Bob Barker somewhere? Sure. I just well, I didn't expect to talk about him.
But I was just noticing nice tributes and things like that to him. And a woman that I know a little bit, her name is Shane Lalonde, I believe. She is married to Layer from Primus, the base player of Primus. I met her when I know was touring with Primus.
She was on tour with her two kids. And she was really, really drummer with Primus. No, the base player. Layer is the base player.
No, layer is the drummer. Okay, then she's less clay pool. The she's with the base player. Not less.
Choose with the other guy. Don't fight. You're both wrong. Let's just hear me out.
Okay, hear me out. I'm going to look it up. Let's clay pool is the base player. Okay, maybe he's a guitar player layer.
Maybe he's a guitar player. Right. Exactly. He plays one of those instruments.
They're guitar. They are power trio guitar, bass and drums. Oh, sorry. Larry Lalonde is the guitar player.
Okay. See, I didn't know either. Yeah. See, you called him the drummer.
And now I was we were on tour with him for what? Like four weeks. Okay, so we're both wrong. But I did know that he played a guitar like instrument.
Yes. Larry. So she goes by layer though. So his wife is Shane Lalonde.
And let me just make sure I have that correct. But I'm. Should I play a prank phone call while you do that? One more of Mark's No, sorry.
Shane. Yes. So anyway, she we got to talking, you know, while on this tour. And she was on the prices right.
That was her job for a very, very long time. Barker's beauty. She was a Barker's beauty. And she had a really wonderful experience on the show.
And I was looking at her Instagram tribute to Bob Barker. And it was very touching. Women, did he just die? Yes.
What? Just like the other day. I thought he died a long time ago. No.
I thought he was going to do prices right until we dropped dead. So when he was off a price is right, I'm like, he must be dead. Why would he ever put down the microphone? No, no, he just died.
Three days ago. Oh, man. He was old. Yeah.
She. Okay. So she was on the show for seven years. Yeah.
Well, we could go on and on about the prices right. About Barker just died. And yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He was in his 90s, I think. I would hope so. But I really wanted to be on that show. I love that show.
I really, really wanted to guess the big, you know, package the number at the end. And I wanted to win. Showcase showdown. Yeah.
The showcase showdown. I really wanted to win. I really wanted to win. Damn it.
I wanted to win both. I wanted to win literally anything they put up. What is it? What is it?
How close do you have to be to win both? I don't know. Pretty close. Between 1974 and 1998.
One had the bid with a $99 of the actual price of your showcase to win both showcases. And I also wanted to spin that wheel so bad. I saw the wheel. Yeah.
Did you touch it? I touched the wheel. Did you spin it? I did not spin it.
That seemed like it would be a little obnoxious. So why were you on the set of the prices right? But you weren't contestant. The very first, the very first dinosaur junior public appearance, reunion public appearance in 2005, was on the Craig Ferguson show, which was, which was taped at the CBS television studios in on Beverly Boulevard.
Oh, in West Hollywood? In West Hollywood. Okay. So when we did the Craig Ferguson show, the guy was leading us around sort of like the watchmen, the guy, you know, he's like, do you want to see the prices right set?
Do I? Yeah. But it wasn't really the set, but it was where they put all of the all the games. It was just this huge row of games.
Oh my God. And you could sort of wander around and be like, Oh, there's the little one, the little one, the little one, the little, the mountain guy. Oh my God. I love that one.
And you try to get them to the top without plunging to his death over the hump out. If you know, the whole thing is that you have to guess, you can't guess over. Like if you were $5 over on your showcase, you're not going to win the showcase. Even though you're so close, but you're over.
So it has to be under here. You're over the cliff. It's like death. Yeah.
So you got to be under. That's very serious. Well, you know what, the price is right. Also managed to like somehow that hazy vision of the price and prices right.
I would desire anything they put up there. I mean, and I don't, I don't typically desire all of those things. Like they could be like, and here's a brand new vacuum. And here's a brand new, you know, tire repair kit.
And I was like, Oh my God, and all amazing. You know, we have a piece of the price is right set on our refrigerator. We do have very proudly have it there. I tell this story all the time, but I haven't told it on the podcast yet.
But while I was wandering through this maze of these machines or excuse me, the games, which were also machines, actually, kind of held together by like duct tape and rubber bands, honestly, interesting, walking through my childhood like that. But I grabbed, I grabbed a red sign that said mower on it. Because I was so you actually stole something. I stole something from it.
I did. Well, how did you get out of there holding that sign? I put it down my pants. You did not.
It's like how I used to steal magazines at the magazine shop. It was like a nudie mag. You just put the mower sign right down your pants, right down my pants, front door back. Gross.
Okay. That's how I, you know, walking in the house. Hi, mom. Hi, dad.
Going upstairs, locking my door. Okay. I got a lock on my door. Bathroom did though.
Let's get back to let's get back to insanity number one. Let's get back to Mark. My dear departed friend, Mark. Maybe I should play another can I play another?
Yeah. Okay. Hang on, hang on. Hang on.
Hang on. Pile you. Talk about the sandpike. The sandpike.
What do you think about it? I hadn't thought about it. Really? Yeah.
Well what about the infiltration gap. What about the slaughtering of cows? Other good to eat. Are they?
Only think about the football strike. It doesn't bother me to.... Doesn't know you like football? Don't care about it.
What's your favorite sport? A two-D proper animal. Really? Kind of.
Yeah. That's disgusting. These should be ashamed of yourself. They should have a lighter IQ.
Oh why? What if my IQ is 180? very low because that's probably what I keep at it. Bye.
Goodbye. IQ scores can register into the 200s. So Mark was correct in this case. And also probably he did have an IQ of 180, or he believed himself to have that IQ.
I love the way he says to Stamp Hike. I'm wondering if, did he call like the same guy? No. Oh, it's just Jackson.
Jackson, Michigan. Just all the dudes in Jackson, Michigan, and the 80s sounding very similar. Yeah. Another person who was pretty engaged with Mark.
Yeah. He was game. Until Mark insulted his game hunting. Yeah.
Called it disgusting. Yeah. Oops. He lost him there.
He did. He's like, well, got to go. You want me there for a second. I was really enjoying.
I was playing this game with you, kid. Yep. Oh my gosh. But don't you come from my game hunting.
Yeah. Don't insult who you are hoping to engage with on a prank call. Well, you know, unless you want to get them all fired up. I think Mark probably did ultimately want to get them fired up.
Yeah, obviously, he's a podster. We talked about that. Oh, yeah. So, you know, he even admits in the beginning of this episode that he started that fight with his mom just you'd have something interesting to listen to.
Oh, that was his poor, poor mother. I mean, yeah, the whole argument is really unfortunate. Mm. Because it's all on the tape, the whole argument.
Oh, yeah. Oh. It's a bummer. He's like a rousing her about whether they put the cat out or not.
Oh, God. I mean, she'll shut the door and hold his go. Goodbye. And she comes back and like, Mark, what are you doing?
What? I mean, and she's really trying to reason with him. She's like really trying. She's trying.
I mean, really, yeah, Dan, his mother, it seems very reasonable. Yeah, she does. But a lot of the tape, maybe I'll play a little bit of an excerpt. The next excerpt I'll play is he would go on these monologues on the tape about his life at the time.
I mean, I'll do two short ones. OK. Maybe if you can make enough money and you feel like coming up here in February, then you will be able to see the neat sort of things that have been happening around here, like redecoration of the house. Now, this is a problem that we all know about spending money ruthlessly on things that are important, such as wallpaper, carpeting, flooring, and new telephones that fit the proper color of the kitchen.
Now, is that foolish? I say yes, which you may say, nay. We don't know which way you will say. So let's go play and I'll say, fuck you, mom.
And she'll say, you can't talk to an adult that way because I'm an adult and adults are better than kids. Because kids are not people. And it's true. Kids are people.
They're going to be goats. That's Mark weighing in on his mother's a decoration of the house. They just moved to Syracuse. Uh huh.
Yeah. Poor poor mother. That's all I can say. Rest in peace.
Honest to God. She had her hands full with those two boys. Holy cats and dogs. I can you share the story of how Mark's father passed away?
OK. So Mark had a very, I assume I never met him. I really wanted to meet Mark's dad because I was like, where is this energy coming from with this kid, like this friend of mine, this person that was, I mean, he was magnetic to me. I began blowing my nose loudly because he did.
He did with your face. I almost, I just, his performative nature really rubbed off on me and really sparked my own, you know, and you know, I wanted to entertain him. He wanted to entertain me. But where did this spirit and he and his brother were just powerful.
I mean, they were also violent and very like they fought like terribly like brutal, bloody battles. But his father lived in rural Missouri and Donovan, Missouri. And from what I could tell from what Mark would tell me, which of course may not have been true. So he didn't see his father that often.
No. He lived with his mom. Yeah, he would only see his father for a few weeks a year. It seemed like, but his father seemed like a very large personality and also large, but his father died and this really was another hint or sort of just the back story to Mark and, and Mark's brother too, because Mark's brother kind of was in a prison.
He was a drug dealer, car dealer. I mean, real just interesting. He's also passed away. Yeah, he passed away before Mark and then Mark's mother passed away and then, but Mark was a last surviving member of his family.
But his father died first and apparently his father was returning a video cassette to a video cassette store, a blockbuster or something. And when he was informed by the person behind the counter that the tape had not been rewound and that there would be an extra fee, a $5 fee, Mark's father leapt over the counter and attempted to strangle the clerk and the process of doing so had a massive heart attack and drop dead. Well, thereby meaning I would never meet Mark's dad. Because God, I wanted to see.
I just wanted to see. Be kind, rewind. Yeah. Sorry, is that in a proper way or?
I'm just saying. I would always be on every table. There was a little, there was a little, there was a lack of kindness that kind of seemed to run through. Yeah.
His family, his dad introduced him to LSD when I think he was 13. Wow. He introduced him to marijuana, alcohol, all this stuff. Mark would come back from these trips to Missouri and was like, wow, he and Mark became very, maybe his dad must have been the same, but Mark became evangelical about drugs.
And alcohol. Yes, he was. And he, I mean, he was my, he was my dealer. He was my pusher.
He introduced me to all kinds of drugs and you know, Mark died young. He came on tour with Sabote a lot. He loved going on tour with us because it was just like a free for all. You know, he really appreciated like, well, he loved that.
You're like, here's the club and you walk backstage and there's everything you want. And he just, he loved it. And so he would, he would save, he would make vacation time around the Sabote tour so he could come and hang out with me and hang out backstage. But yeah, the last time I spoke with him, we were in, we were in line at Target and he called me and I was trying to like manage this conversation with him while checking out at Target.
And it was kind of interesting because I was there like trying to just, we were just gathering all of our domestic things, you know, our big boxes of cereal and our household cleaners. And, and I think it sort of underlined how like I was fully, I'm domesticated. Like I understand, you know, and that, and Mark and the conversation that I was having with him, it was very clear that he was undemesticated. And he was literally talking about moving out of the country.
Because he was so enveloped in this sort of pandemic paranoia and just political paranoia and was, I'm moving out of the country and anyone who doesn't, is an idiot and I'm going, I'm getting out. And I was just realizing what a funny juxtaposition this was where I'm like, I'm here. I'm not going anywhere. I'm the most important thing to me right now is buying tissues.
And I didn't speak to him after that. And he didn't, but the thing is he didn't call me after that. Even though we didn't have like, there was no argument, there was nothing. It was just like Mark I have to go.
And then I would debate, like I would think about him and I'm like, should I call him? I'd be like, I want to call him. I kind of want to know what's going on with him, but I do not want to listen to this wild talk. I don't want to hear the wild talk.
I don't want the pot stirred. I don't want my pot stirred because he still had that ability to do it to me. He still had the ability to quicken my pulse. He still had the ability to like, and there's not a lot of things in my life now that are capable of doing that.
Because I spent a lot of time managing things. But Mark was still capable of doing that. I just could not bring myself to contact him. And the last thing that I said was a text when I was really, as we've been doing the podcast, I thought I really want to share this tape.
I want to kind of touch base with Mark. And I knew that he would be fully totally okay with me sharing this tape. Because he did really want to be like a star. He did want to be noticed.
He did want to be talked about it. I think he would have loved these episodes. Well, wherever you are Mark, we're thinking of you. I had a couple of times.
The dream I had. Shortly after I found out that he had died, I had a dream of a very vivid dream where he was across from me. I said, Mark, you died. He said, no I didn't.
I said, Mark, you did. He died. He said, no I didn't. It was like this.
It was like a very real conversation. He was adamant. I am not dead. And then I was yelling at him.
Mark, you've died. And I relayed that story to his ex-wife and she was like, that's perfect. Sounds like Mark. Like the Nigerian.
Yeah, good death. Well, thank you listeners for being a part of our Mark. Mark Harris tribute. I'm a remarfress.
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