Mark Shayler of Ape on making change happen, sustainability consulting and meditation for innovation

When I first started the Net Zero Business Podcast,, I knew I wanted to get Mark on as he always inspires me with his unique insights. Fresh from a cold water swimming session, he doesn't disappoint – here's what we cover:Getting Sustainability stuff done in a large organisationDriving change as an external agentThe threat of misinformation and conspiracy theoriesFriendly fire in the green movementMark's book: You can't make money from a dead planet: the Sustainable method of driving profitsThe use of meditation in innovation and strategyMark's philosophy for Sustainability ConsultingThat list is an inadequate summary of a conversation which also includes the meaning of the band name Gorillaz and the origin of the phrase "the penny drops." - do not miss this one!As always, the Net Zero Business Academy is brought to you by Terra Infirma Ltd, Bringing Sustainability to Life Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.