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EPISODE · Feb 3, 2026 · 21 MIN

Marketing Isn’t Messaging, It’s a Conversation with Perry Sheraw

from The Growth Signal

Rethinking the future of customer relationships starts with one simple idea… talk like a human.Most marketing sounds smart but feels cold. Alyssa Nolte sits down with Perry Sheraw to break down why real growth comes from conversation, not clever copy. They dig into email, SMS, and digital campaigns and explain how to make them feel human, relevant, and worth responding to. If your marketing feels polished but ignored, this conversation will either confirm it’s not for you… or make you lean in and rethink everything.You should listen if you care about: • Turning email and SMS into real conversations • Building trust instead of just chasing clicks • Rethinking how customers actually move from “interested” to “buying”3 key takeawaysWrite like you talk. If it sounds weird out loud, it will feel worse in an inbox.Open rates are not interest. Real engagement shows up in actions, not views.The customer journey should reflect what the customer needs, not what the business wants.Alyssa Nolte and Perry Sheraw also cover why empathy is not soft, how to test short vs long content, and where most teams lose people between marketing and sales.People and resources mentioned Brené BrownAdam GrantChatGPT and AI tools for understanding customer behavior

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