Mass shooter’s mother on trial

Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the Michigan teenager who shot four classmates to death in 2021, takes the stand on involuntary manslaughter charges in a case that’s testing the limits of who might be found responsible for a mass shooting. Plus, a behind the scenes look at 2024 presidential campaigns. And, ‘Black Swan’ events: how chance happenings can upend our lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices