EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 13 MIN
Mathew & Carly Koder, Transformation Experts | The Jeff Crilley Show
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In corporate America, there's an old saying that it's lonely at the top. The CEO and president of a company can sometimes have nightmares, waking up in the middle of the night, wondering if this or that is going to work or not. Sometimes they're stressed out of their mind. They have to be like that duck on the pond where their feet are going a million miles a minute, but on top of the water, they are cool, calm, and collected. All of that can cause them to tax their body with that stress. Joining us now to talk about this are Mathew and Carly Koder. They are transformation experts.
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In corporate America, there's an old saying that it's lonely at the top. The CEO and president of a company can sometimes have nightmares, waking up in the middle of the night, wondering if this or that is going to work or not. Sometimes they're stressed out of their mind. They have to be like that duck on the pond where their feet are going a million miles a minute, but on top of the water, they are cool, calm, and collected. All of that can cause them to tax their body with that stress. Joining us now to talk about this are Mathew and Carly Koder. They are transformation experts.
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