Matt Damon

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It is a superstar. And that's stars Matt Damon. Matt Damon is joining us. Boston's own, so good at so many things, such a professional. And in the peak of his career in a huge movie.

And we're going to talk about a lot of things today. We're going to talk about long lasting professional relationships and how important they are. We're going to talk about hating pranks, but loving a little bit of reality TV. We're going to talk about shooting in caves and working with giant puppets. And we're going to talk about the Odyssey, the new film that is out, the giant new film by Christopher Nolan, that he is the star of he plays Odysseus.

He's on the journey babe. But before we get to talking to Matt, we are going to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind their back and give me a question, ask them. And we have a great get. We've got a little indie filmmaker named Christopher Nolan. He is on the rise.

Keep an eye out for this kid. He's doing great work. And Chris Nolan is joining us. And we are very, very excited to talk to him. And let's see if we can get him on the Zoom.

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Hi, Chris. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. You're pouring some tea. I am.

Are there anything without tea? I also am an excessive tea drinker. What's your brand? Bill Grant. Oh, I see.

I enjoy a black tea. Who makes your Earl Grey? Twineings. I see. Have you heard of Barry's tea?

Yeah. But you don't like? I would say that I wouldn't want to upset the Irish contingent. No. But every country, every nation has their own particular blend.

Twineings works for me. Well, thanks for talking today. I'm very, very excited to talk to Matt. Congratulations on another incredible film. Thank you.

How do you compete with the imagination of people who have read and studied the Odyssey? It's like you're competing with the idea of the Odyssey, in a way. I mean, you can't. And I learned this. You know, we all learned this through the work on the Dark Knight trilogy.

Like, you couldn't compete with people's idea of that amazing character and at the time, 75 years of history behind it. This is 3,000 years of people's imagination. It's everything's worth. So you can't compete with it. What we realized, addressing character Batman, and I brought with it very much to the Odyssey, is you have to trust that what people want from you is your most sincere attempt to do justice and material, to do it with a seriousness and with an appreciation of the original text.

But it has to be run interpretation. Certainly, I as a film people respond to that and other people. If I go see a movie and I realize that people have loved this and have really tried to give you an experience and try to put something across in the way that they really believe is great. I think I think people cut your lot of slack for that. Because yes, you cannot compete with people's own imaginings when they read a text.

If we are to care that Odysseus makes it home, we need to care about the person trying to make it home. We need to just feel like they even care about home. And there's something about Matt as just an actor, I think that's innate in him, in able to express that. What made you cast him in this film? Well, I'd gone to nine or 10 other people by the time I got that.

No, the truth is, I actually don't think about actors when I'm writing. I try not to. I try to really just live through the characters and the writing process and come out the other side and go, OK, how is this going to work? Who are we getting for this? And Matt really immediately popped into my head because you're looking for this, what you're talking about, that kind of empathetic ability to draw the audience into a character's dilemma.

And he has that openness. He brings the audience with him. But he also can project an iconic, frankly superhero presence. I mean, he's a guy from the Martian. I know we bought a zoo and then in a good one hunting and then he's Jason Bourne.

And to be able to do such disparate things and sort of fuse them into a character was exactly what I needed. I also worked with Matt twice before and I knew that the way we wanted to take the sun and what was really important to us in making it, honestly, was to try and get out there and find a way to bring the audience with us, put the audience up and take a big shit and climb mountains and go into the Cyclops cave with him. So I needed a partner. I needed somebody who would leave from the front and just dive in and do all this crazy stuff without complaining about it. And he's just a, he's in such a wonderful place in his life of career.

He really appreciates what he gets to do. He understands how good he is at it. I think in a really comfortable way and a really great way. And he just leads from the front. He gets everybody inspired with him.

And I think without that, we would have crashed and burned horrible. He's sent from a practical point. You can't have an Odysseus complaining that it's cold or it's late or, and I mean, you put him through the ringer. Put him through the ringer and what's fun about where we met is, you know, he's a great writer himself. You can have really, really specific detail conversations about script and about how we're going about things.

But he also doesn't, he doesn't talk for the sake of it. You know, he doesn't want to just use the sound and what he hears about the character. He sort of goes off and figures out who he is and then brings that to the floor, which is really fun to deal with. Well, he has to go rest cause he has to work out a thousand, do like 5,000 sit-ups a day. Because you're insisting on making this, let's face it, middle-aged man.

Yeah, he's exactly the right place in his time of life and everything to do it. And I actually had a moment with him in his first wardrobe fitting, because we've been fitting all of the supporting cast, all the guys who play his crew and some younger actors and everything. And they all come in and they've all got tattoos. He's a nightmare for a period film. It means hours and seconds.

You have to cover all that up and then put the costume on and then ringing and then the costume will rub it away. And then I, you know, and I thought, okay, he takes a shot of the fitting and he's got a fucking tattoo. And I was like, not you as well. I want. And it was, you know, very small, tasteful tattoo, you know, neighbors, children, all that.

You know, he said to me, well, I thought it'd be perfectly honest. I thought my bare bicep days were over. And I said, okay, fair enough. The truth is I think they're just beginning, but, you know, though, yeah, a little extra time in the chair. Do you have to physically train to get ready for a film too?

I mean, it is exhausting to be directing you. Like, do you physically train when you're getting ready to go on set? No, I don't. But no, it's actually kind of a natural process, but because what happens before you shoot the film, on a film like this is you start jumping on planes and getting in vans and driving all over the place. And you go off to scound to find these places.

And I do that with my design and just the two of us. We go off and gradually add people to that group and we make multiple trips, but we cover thousands of miles and we're just constantly climbing up hills and, you know, the first couple trips are bad. You know, I'm like, well, not up to this. Like how are you doing? And you're doing that thing where you're like, I know it's beautiful, but maybe maybe I'll just say something a little closer to the hotel.

Yeah. Well, congratulations. This is such a triumph in everything you make is so incredible. And just what a career you've had. And I ask my guess a question from someone I speak to beforehand.

And we talk well behind their back and then we ask a question of them. And I want to get to that. But just one last thing before I do, which is your wife, Emma Thomas, is so instrumental in the stuff that you make. She's such a badass, so incredibly talented. And I don't really have a question other than I just want to remind people of your beautiful union.

I'm just thinking right now, I wish I'd also leave the room before at the end of the interview because she heard all that. Emma, Emma, you're there. Emma, Emma, Emma. I mean, just like, hey, hi, you're such a badass. I'm never going to forgive you for that.

I mean, it's so cool how you guys work together and what you do together and how you work together. I have such great respect for Emma and her work. Well, me too. No, that's really a lot of things like that. That's all.

I mean, no question, other than is it great to be married to such a cool lady? It is very great to be married to such cool lady. It's very great to have such a great producer on the film. So I mean, it takes something like this. It wouldn't be really unthinkable without her calm, clear, you know.

We'll get through this. We'll find a way so that that's stability. So thank you for bringing it up. Of course. So do you have a question you think I should ask Matt specifically about the project or about him or anything you want to know about him big or small that you don't feel like you know?

There is a question I've tried to ask him for. And I've never got a clear answer. So I think you might have better luck, which is so Matt, as I'm sure you know, but he's obviously an amazing actor, wonderful movie star as well, as we talked about. He's also a great writer. He's an Academy of War winning writer.

As he occasionally reminds me, he's a piece of something in the script. But I'm a fantastic producer produced, you know, best picture nominees or as films he wasn't in, you know, everything. And I'm pretty curious and I haven't got a straight answer from about this as to why he hasn't directed. Oh, great question. It's something he could have chosen to do.

He's he's so knowledgeable, you know, you know, you're going to sit with him. He knows more about everything on set than anyone. Almost anyone. I'm going to claim a little bit more knowledge of what I want to do on my set. But he's pretty he's he's pretty in control of every aspect, you know, holding this head.

It is what everybody's doing, which is one of the reasons is a great collaborator as an actor because he's not just looking at his part. He's looking at how what he's doing is advancing story and he's very, very cognizant with all the other things I'm trying to balance it. So it was how the scene we're doing interacts with the rest of the hertz. OK, I'm going to ask him that. And I'm going to say that you said that he would make a great director.

I don't know if I actually said that. I was just like, that's a try. I think, you know, he has such a clear ability to be able to step into that role. If you wanted to sell him, I'm curious. Maybe there's maybe there's something about him.

Have you ever acted? Oh, I have thought you much respect. I'm just so grateful for that. I just do try and try and try and trade on that. We always say on a set, everyone should just do everyone's job just for one take.

Yes. I think nobody's afraid of being the director. They're going to be a great kid. I have to do it. But I think that might be the beyond.

You get from that. It might be that he knows so much about him. He's seen so many people do it that he doesn't he doesn't fancy sitting in the hot seat. Yeah, awesome. Awesome.

Well, thank you so much for your time. Thanks for your incredible work. I'm going to let you get back to your tea. I know it's sitting right under frame. And we all know any good director they've set up the tea in the beginning.

We need to see that tea very soon. It's going to be a part of the story. Thank you, Emma, if you're still there. And really nice talking to you. Thanks, Chris.

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The Subaru Forester hybrid and Cross Trek hybrid love goes the extra mile. We were just talking about we just got to see it. I'm so happy. I have talked to so few people who've seen it. Oh, I mean, I feel really lucky that we got to see it.

Great. And it was so great to be able to see it. Like, congratulations. Thank you. It is such a huge.

Yeah, it's the by far the biggest thing I've ever been anywhere in there. It's kind of be big and it is big and it's so loud. It's a really loud movie. Get brain. I'm axis intense.

Yeah, yeah. I'm axis intense. Yeah, it's incredible. The whole experience was like that. It was just it was it was awesome.

Not Damon's here, everybody. Sorry. We're jumping into the outside. But like, but I wanted to start there because I'm lucky enough to get to see it. I've been thinking about it a lot.

It's one of those things that sticks with you, of course, because it's like in many ways, probably the most famous story ever told. I watched it and it's been swirling around in my head, obviously, because of what it represents. But I'm thinking about it as this meditation on aging. OK, I know, I hear you and I agree because it you and I the same age. It feels like there's this moment in life now where it's like there's a past in all the wreckage or whatever joy and love and drama that comes with that and trauma that comes with the past.

This like real present that like is really hard and there's like a lot of people you're taking care of, aging parents, kids, and then this version of how people think we are or are we still the version that people think we are? It's a very cool. I've been thinking about it a lot because it's really hitting me at this age. Does that does that resonate at all? It definitely does.

And that's what I love about this movie and about the script. He is he's a really underrated writer. I think just because he's such a brilliant director that kind of overshadows his writing is I've read three of his scripts now because this is the third movie I've done with him and they're just so well written and thematically this touches on so much. And what I love hearing that is because it's a different people. It's going to mean completely different things.

And where you are in your life where we both are and that piece will resonate with us. But for instance, there was a guy who worked on the film named Duff who's an AV SEAL and we were on the boat one day out in the middle of the ocean and sailing back and he just turned to me and we started talking about the screenplay and this is without having seen the movie. So I think this is the best movie about PTSD that I've ever read or seen. So I think it depends on where you are and where you've been. And that's what's so great about The Odyssey is that's why it's survived for three thousand years because it works for everybody who encounters it in counters at a different place in their life and it's got some resonance for them.

I asked this to people my age because I found this life is getting better and it certainly feels from the outside not knowing your life. It feels like you've been able to just keep making more stuff that you enjoy and just growing as an artist and all this stuff. What is great about being our age? Honestly, I think that the business we're in is tough and I think the first time we met and worked together we were probably in our late 20s or early 30s and you don't know how things are going to work out. There's so much up in the air and there's a lot of pressure and there's a lot you want to do.

There's a lot you feel like you have to say. Everything feels ahead of you. That's right. And then I think the place we're at now or at least speaking for myself is a great sense of calm. I think.

And really when Ben and I started a company together a few years ago it was partly because we were like what are we doing? This is the most joyful thing like our dream like that we had when we were kids literally children together. Teenagers. What you met what 10 and 8 or something. 10 and 8.

But then we really were bizarre kids who were serious about acting and we were in the union. And at 16 and 14 years old we were going to New York together to audition for stuff. And our friendship was founded on quite a bit of common experience but that was central to it and very unique to the two of us. And here we are 40 years later and it's like we should make every single movie we can together. It's unusual.

You said this before that you're really good at partnerships. It feels like Chris is another one. You're like I'm really good at picking people who can be partners in my life. And the fact that you guys still work together this many years later and that you love working together it's unusual. It's just like what do you like about working with them?

I think for us we've experienced so much of life together. It's not a friendship that could ever be replicated just because we grew up together. Which meant we were together all the time. We were writing a screenplay together. And I think working together is one of the great things about writing with him is always the fact that there was a deep and abiding love and respect underneath everything that was never in question.

It was very helpful when you're working creatively because you're not worried about their feelings. And I mean I imagine you guys have a pretty quick shorthand about what works is nothing is taking up personally when you're reading something. It's just the allegiances to the thing that we're making. And we're trying to get there as quickly as we can and as efficiently as we can. And there's a deep trust if you can get hung up on an idea sometimes you know as a writer.

And dig in. And sometimes you can be wrong. And if you have somebody that you trust that much they'll also hear you out. They're humble enough to know they might be wrong too. So it's just a very easy experience.

And it also ends up being just really fun because you're doing it for me. It's like my closest friend for 40 years, 45 years. It's like who else would I want to hang out with? Yeah, Tina and I went on tour this year. We've been friends out for like over 30 years and we have a similar dynamic which is we just work so well together.

We don't care about the same thing. We have similar things that we don't stress about. And then things that we're like this is really important. We have to get this right. There's a theory that the age you meet people like you were 10, Ben's eight.

I'll compare you guys to the Beatles so get ready. It's coming from you not me. Paul McCartney. No, you said I had to. Paul McArnie.

You squeezed my arm and you came in. You had one note that came before me. I got looked at it. You called me Paul McCartney for this episode. But no, it was like Paul McCartney is a couple of years older than George Harrison and they always had an older brother younger brother dynamic just because they were two years apart.

Do you guys have an older brother younger brother dynamic? No. No. Same age dynamic. No.

I'm older than him. So I'm sure we've. And I've noticed that my wife is also an older sibling. Yeah. And there's something about that.

Yeah. I think that makes it easy. You naturally fall into your into your role. Yeah. Like as a younger sibling, I had one, you know, my big brother and he was like a God and it was just I just had to follow him around.

Yeah. My mom, you know, she worked. She was like, yeah, my brother joined the YWCA swim team because his girlfriend was on the YWCA swim team. So I had to join the YWCA swim team. YWCA swim team, you know, doesn't matter.

Like I could swim. Okay. I didn't love it. Yeah. I was on the swim team.

Yeah. And you know what I mean? Whereas an older sibling is questioning everything because they're the ones who are kind of trailblazing and they're kind of responsible. Yeah. You can tell an older sibling right away.

Yeah, for sure. You really can. And they're also like translating life to other siblings. Right. You know, they're, they could be like 12 months older than you.

And they're like, here's how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the thing about this? But, but you brought up your mom.

My mom is a teacher, my both my parents are teachers growing up. Your mom is an educator, author, like academic. You guys grew up in Boston as we know famously. I also did. Sometimes you do feel like you got out and people are like, oh, good for you.

You get out, you know, and sometimes they're like, I'm, I'm still, you know, here and you're like, that's great. I have no judgment about that. That's fantastic. You're like, it's great. And so they have a feeling about it.

Well, because since he had this, as this great character called bitter Boston though. Must be nice. And he, and he leaves occasionally voicemails and they are just, I mean, but it's like, no, good for you. Yeah. Good for you.

No, I'm sure you're real busy. You know, with your big life and everything. And from what I understand, you're a bi-coastful now. I mean, not to Boston, but to New York and I get it, you know, and it's just, and it's one of those and they go, it goes on and on for like five minutes and I'm just crying by the end of these things. You know, I said to myself, if I go up there and talk to her, she's not going to talk to me.

She probably won't remember me. She won't remember me. But I remember you. I remember you. Good for you.

And then lastly, on behalf of all Bostonians, I'm sure you've talked about this a lot too, but I don't think I know on behalf of all of us, where were you when we won in 2004 on Red Sox one? I was, so I was making a movie called Seriana and, and that was shooting at the time you do buy and, and I was watching all the Yankee games on, in fact, I was in Geneva during, during the, when we clinched against the Yankees and I was supposed to work the following weekend to buy and George Clooney, thank God, was a producer on the movie. And I called him immediately and he said, I already read that the entire schedule, you can go home. No way. So I came back.

I landed at JFK. I was living in New York. I landed at JFK. The game was just starting. I made it to my apartment by like the second or third inning and we won that game.

Yep. You know, obviously we won all four, but, but once we won that game, I knew that I had to watch every single moment on that couch by myself because that was the lucky way. Well, you watch it by yourself. Absolutely. I was just like, well, I didn't want to jinx anybody.

Yeah. She was watching the room. She couldn't, she was holding a laundry. She had to hold it all the time. Totally.

Yeah. And I do feel like something psychically changed for all of us when that happened. I know I did for my family. My dad, like was, it felt like a release of a long awaited song. It felt like the Odyssey.

It's a, it's a, it's a, it can't be true, but it is. Wait a minute. Is the Odyssey about that? Wait a minute. What did your mom think about you not finishing Harvard?

Well, by then, I mean, I was working. They were really close to finishing. I was, I was, in fact, I, I probably, I probably did five years of classes there because I would go and then there was one semester, the last semester I left, I would go. It was two weeks away from the end of the semester. So I'd done everything.

All I had to do was take the finals. But the rule was, at the time at least, you had to take your finals at the exact moment they were offered in Cambridge. Right. And I was like, I'm number five on the call sheet. You can come and shut a movie down.

Yeah. Like for three hours, four different times. Like I just had to eat the semester. Do you ever have a fantasy about going back? I think I used to.

Like there was, but I also, you know, I was an English major and in fact I started writing good, well hunting for a class. I just had wonderful professors and, and that professor really encouraged me to keep going with it. And I never tried to do that. And, and in fact, I, I wrote, we were supposed to write a one act play and I wrote, I wrote the first act of a three act movie. And, and, but at that point I'd already been leaving and going, you know, I mean, I was kind of out in the world working.

So I wasn't like sweating grades the way I was kind of in the, I was kind of out of the pipeline. Yeah. And I was really in school for myself at that point. And I went to the, to the guy and I said, I think I failed your class. I like, but this is the first act of a movie and, and he read it and he gave me a straight A and he just said, don't stop.

Keep going. Like he gave me all this encouragement. And that was when I just took it out and showed it to Ben. And so cool. You can, you can also tell that respect your teachers in the film.

Like it's in good hunting. And we grew up around educators and like we're saying the obvious, but it is still wild how people can remember the teacher. Oh my God. The three teachers. Me too.

That were like, you're doing good. Hang in there. That just that, those like positive reinforcements about anything you were doing. Yeah. So okay, you guys moved to Hollywood.

Congratulations. You win an Academy Award. You do good. Well, hunting everybody's favorite movie. Give it the best speech ever.

You bring your moms. It's incredible. And we didn't have a choice. Like where, you know, you've been working to your point, what you were saying. You've been working for a long time.

We know you then. We meet you then. And I'm the same age as you. I'm watching you like be my age, like entering into some system and you're from Boston and it's like, oh, okay, we don't have to live near the game to be in the game, basically. What is your relationship to work now?

Because when you're young, they talk about you're like, I want to do this and then you start getting these things. Then like, so then what is your relationship? Are you tired? That's a long question. I'm personally asking for myself.

Sometimes. Yeah. But I think that's where this I feel like for both Ben and me. That we are at the same time kind of stepped into this new phase of life and really felt it. Yeah.

What is that new phase? That we just want to work on. It's about really the pursuit of joy in our lives and in our work. And like this movie, I never would have, I think 20 years ago, I would have bitched a lot about, you know, I don't think. I thought I actually had told.

The physical discomfort in making this movie that everybody, everybody had to go through, the entire crew. So the experience of doing this movie, though it was the hardest movie that I've ever done by far, was so joyful. Yeah. And also it felt more like an expedition than a movie because of how we made it. And to know that every single person around you was weathering those same difficulties and pushing themselves.

Like it's just this feeling of being a part of that team of people was just, it was one of the best feelings I've ever had. That's very cool. I mean, you're making me think of that like Sanskrit idea that life is what you say it is, basically. Right. So you can be like, this is the worst, this is the hardest thing and this is the most incredible opportunity I'm getting to do.

Yeah. And I definitely, from the moment Chris gave me the part, I felt. I felt that because first of all, he, it's, first of all, it's one of the great roles of all time. Yeah. And, and he was going to make this thing at the scale that it deserved to be made.

And not, and like pretty practical, right? Like that's, like, you know, make it the way David Lean would have made it the way somebody made it 80 years ago. It's that for people that are going to see it and you guys can tell us if it's too spoily and we'll cut it. But like there's scenes where Cyclops is your meeting Cyclops, who by the way, I was proud of myself. I was like, is that Bill Irwin?

You got him right away. Yeah. He's amazing. He's amazing. Rachel getting married.

I know what it's saying. That, I find out is a giant puppet. Yeah. What the fuck that is wild? It's really wild when you realize we shot it in an actual cave.

And so there's no sound stage. That's wild. So we would hike to this cave and it was called Zeus's Cave. They say it's where Zeus was born. And we would hike up to this cave.

And the rigging that the guys did in this cave, they basically turned it into a sound stage almost. Yeah, right. Like they were, they were, I mean, it was just a good amount of, the amount of work that went into doing this was like, I bet you shot a place is that no one had ever been allowed in and like, nobody would be crazy enough to try to shoot him was what I really was. Every time I would go, I would show up and I would start laughing. I would be cheating me.

You're like, we're going up there? Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Like, so what are we shooting?

Well, we're not shooting anything until we get up there because that's where everything is. So that's wild. So that's what I mean about an expedition. And it was, and we were all in it together. We were all like up the mountain.

And, and, and in that, in that cave that was, you know, Chris was like, no, 60 foot puppet. And so, so basically he does as little special effects as humanly possible, which means you can do quite a bit without, without CGI and where he needs it, you know, he'll, he understands what year he lives in. Yeah. And then we can do special effects teams. Yeah.

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That's another thing that I told you I know, but but similarly, there's few places left that's like we have a show tonight and you know, because you've done it hosted many times and you're like, everyone's just like comedy emergency room. Everyone's doing the best version that I can do in a time that they have. And therefore everything feels really human. It's very cool that way. Like things feel practical and tactile and stuff.

And you've done the show a bunch of times. I don't know if you remember the first time you was, I think it was 2002. I was like my second year there. I have a great picture of us, me and Dratch. And you have your arms around us.

We look like we're like babies. And we're all like, oh, we're all like that. But it was, I remember just starting when you came and I remember that exact feeling like holy shit, look at all these talented people trying to make something like real and human, basically. What was it like to do that show? Do you like doing it?

I still remember. I love doing it. And that first time the reason I did it, Patrick, my agent called me and said you're hosting Saturday Night Live and I said, oh, okay. But I don't have anything coming out. He goes, no Bruce Springsteen's a musical guest.

We're going to get to hear two songs from Bruce. So I was like, oh, yeah, we're huge fans of Bruce Springsteen. So that was really why I did it. And I remember going on the Monday night for the little pitch in Lawrence office and everybody pitches these ideas. And then everybody went, let's go to a bar.

And I was like, guys, we have a 90 minutes to do by Saturday. Like, how are you people so calm? Like, I couldn't. There's like a push where people have like force panic almost to get anything creatively done. I was fully panicked on Monday, but then Tuesday night was the night everyone and I stayed up.

They're like, you're welcome to stay as long as you want. I stayed up overnight till like five in the morning, popping into different rooms and writing with people and, you know, and love that part of it. And then from the read through on Wednesday, it's just you're just shot out of a cannon. Yeah, you're done in five minutes. Yeah.

And you're like, okay, I got it. Let's do it again. Yeah. The rush that you get is incredible. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I actually we were looking up and stuff. I was like, what did I do with Matt? And there's a sketch that I do not remember.

And I was like, no idea what the joke is. Sorry. I can't get my commercial. Is this the one where Parnell where we're on it where it's everybody's name Matt Damon? Is that the thing?

Maybe that's it. Sounds like that's it. All I know is. Okay, here we go. Excuse me.

Yeah. That's amazing. That's really amazing. Parnell, the Iceman. The Iceman.

Oh, really? Oh, yeah, there's Dr. Matt Damon. I don't know. She's on my call.

Okay, so he's a doctor. Matt Damon. That's a whole joke. It's a big deal. It's a big deal.

You have no idea what it's like for me. And that's not true. You're identity is not about your name, man. It's about what you are. What you do?

Okay, that's easy for you to say Matt Damon. Oh my God. Are you Matt Damon? Yeah. This is so weird.

My name is Pat Damon. Okay, no, we're hiding. We're two minutes in. No, we're not. We're two minutes in.

And now we get married. Are you doing this? Yes. I think Matt Damon is the same. I'm so stupid.

Oh my God. It's just, it's just, it's totally ridiculous. I haven't seen, that's really funny. I mean, I did not, I mean, it is, I really. I remember because I think I've posted the show three times and I've come on and done guest spots, but that means I've probably done less than 20 sketches in my life.

So I think I probably remember all of them. You would think you will, but I mean, I. It's so, and then at the end, I think someone comes out and is Dr. Julia serving. I think that's the point.

I think I have him every time. I forget how it happens, but it's like, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon, Matt Damon and you know, that I was like in heavily and I was like, whatever makes it, also you've got a younger cast and it's like they're trying to like establish themselves and like, all right, if you've got something for them to do that, you know what I mean?

Like you all have to do this next week, you know? But a lot of people don't really take that in. Like, and I don't even necessarily mean it's a bad thing. They're just like focusing on other things. Like you have this ability you always have, I think, to pay attention to like the environment that you're in with what other people need.

I mean, I think it's what makes you such a good producer. I think it's what makes you such a collaborator. Like that isn't always people's process. They just don't know how to take all that in. Yeah, I guess I always just defaulted to the better the thing is you're making better for everybody.

Yeah, very true. And I really do think that way about movies too. I don't always take the best role, you know what I mean? I want to be in a good movie. You've been in so many good movies, god damn.

I mean, that's interesting you say that because like even in Interstellar, that role you take is a really surprising role to take with. Chris undersolded to me actually, because Chris, I was really happy to get the call from him. And he, I guess, like trying to manage my expectations said, you know how they say there are no small parts, only small actors? And this is a small part. It's like, okay, but I read it.

I was like, no, this is a terrific part. Like it's a really great part. I mean, it's not big, but it's a really good part. And so yeah, it's always about if there's something I feel like, you know, worth doing, it doesn't have to be the biggest thing. Yeah, I mean, you got to work with so many amazing people.

If it's okay, I want to just ask you about a few because some of them we talk about here a lot and some I had the pleasure to either meet or work with. And I love talking about them. And you've talked about him a lot, but can we just talk about Robin for a second? Because I had the experience that as I'm sure you did, of like feeling like I got to watch him use his gift to make young people feel like they had some kind of future and whatever they were doing. That was basically, he would come, Robin Williams would come and improvise at UCD and like jump in, the theater, improv theater that I was a part of.

And he would just show, I mean, people lose their minds. He would show up and he'd talk to 20, all of us, 20 year olds. Like we were like smart and funny and like change our lives. What was he like, what was it like to work with him when you were so young? Yeah, he was like that generous.

Like that was just his, that's just who he was. It's just like overflowing with generosity. Like as a creative partner to work with to do scenes with. And obviously this was something that we'd written. We'd been holding on to this thing for five years.

And how seriously he took it, how prepared he was. Interestingly, he was very, he did a lot of takes. At his, what did he feel like he didn't have it? Like would he want more because he wasn't quite sure? And I remember Terry Gilliam telling me, like Terry Gilliam gave him after they did The Fisher King and Robin's brilliant in that movie.

And Terry gave him a report card at the end and it had all these different things like creativity, you know, energy, all this stuff. And you know, hey, hey, late night phone calls F. Cause Robin would get home and he would call and he was a ruminator. He was a ruminator and he, and there were things we went back and did another pickup of a thing and we shot it 15 times already and Ben and I knew we had it, Gus knew we had it. Yeah.

And he just, and I think that might be the comedy background where it's like, I'm going to refine this joke. Yeah, there's always a joke. There's always something more that I can grab in there. Yeah. Yeah.

And he, and he had this like, you know, and he was like, indefatigable. Like the guy just had so much energy. Yeah. And so we went over budget in film. I remember every day at lunch we would send out to Kodak and they come back with more film because we were burning through a lot of film, really just for him to feel like we got it.

Yeah. You know, I mean, Ben and I knew, like, I mean, even like the last line of the movie that was not written, he was just supposed to come out and read a letter and, and, and it was just both the camera was supposed to sit on him for as long as he wanted it as he thought about this boy's driving out of town and he's on his way, you know, he's going to go see about the girl and, and Robin, we left the camera rolling and we were shooting up at him and, and I was, I was right next to the camera because every time he came out when he, when he opened up the letter, I said it so that he could hear my voice. And so Gus and I, the director was standing by camera and he wasn't meant to look at me, but just so he could hear me.

And, and he must have done 15 takes and he put the envelope back and he put it back in the mailbox and then he go in and we'd still be rolling and then he'd come back out. And he did, you know, a few, without saying anything and then he just started improvising lines. And unlike the ninth line, he opened the door and he looked and he read the letter and he said, son of a bitch, he stole my line. And I grabbed Gus, like, I mean, it's like, you know, when you get a piece of dialogue falls from heaven, you know, and you just know, and, but Robin went back in and he did it five, six more times and came back. And I remember Ben wasn't on set that day for some reason or maybe he couldn't fit up where we were.

And so he was back and I just couldn't, couldn't get to him fast enough to tell him, you're not gonna fucking believe what he said. Listen, and Ben the second you heard it, like that's it. Yeah. But he knew like that's the, but, but Robin, he must have known because it came out of him. But like when that line comes out of me, if ever I'm lucky enough to come up with something on the spot that just comes out in the moment and it works, I know it and now I'm, now I'm a dog with a bone.

You know what I mean? I'm not gonna go start trying this stuff. Well, that is the thing I love about improv. I have to say is it's like so many ideas are flung around but these are like, let me pick these up. Like each one could be interesting.

But like when you're with like an incredible improviser, it's like I have a million of these. Right. Like these are never gonna go away. That's what, see, I wrote a movie that not many people saw called Promise Land with John Krasinski. And John and I joke about it because John's like, Ben, he's got a super computer on board.

His knee goes really fast. And I'm much more, I don't know. I got a Commodore 56 or whatever. So my processing chip isn't quite as fast. And so John would throw out a line of dialogue.

We'd be sitting in the kitchen writing and he'd throw out a line of dialogue. And my face would do something like this. And John would read that as he hates it. And then he'd give me another one. And then another and then now he's giving me five lines of dialogue and I'm like stop.

Like I'm still on the first one, John. I think the first one's really good. Now I gotta think about all these other ones because I think they're really good too. Just give me a minute. And I think, yeah, you're right.

They're like jewels that are falling on the ground. And I'm like somebody who wants to pick up each one and go like we're gonna put this thing together like a Swiss watch. And that's why I think sometimes it's always like, I mean, it's interesting to watch people be able to be okay with this bad speed and stillness. It's what like film actors do so well is they allow things to just stay. And when you're coming up in like, from a comedy perspective, like speed is where you get yourself a steam everything.

And you just have to sometimes just like stop. You just stop it. With that in mind, what was it like to work with Phil Hoffman who like what an incredible actor? What was it like to be, because your character is really, you have to square off with him in this way. That is, I mean, he's so intimidating to see him.

He's so good. He's good. He was great in everything. But holy shit. Talk about a role where you come in and I mean, he that scene, the scene where he comes back where I kill him in the town to Mr. Ripley spoiler.

Honestly, it's a long trip. He, I loved him because he, you know, we rehearsed, there was a whole month of rehearsal and we got to know each other and, and, but I hated him so much that day. Yeah. You know what I mean? And he, because that's how he, it's like he like built the energy for that scene.

It was like, like, like a fucking Marvel superhero coming out of him and, and sucked me right into it. And we had this day of working where, and we liked each other. You know what I mean? But that was not, that wasn't in the room. Yeah.

And, and I just remember, it's that, I've said, I say it all the time because it really is the truth. When, when you're working with a great actor, they're great enough for both of you. And it's like, it's like just, just paddle into the wave. Right. And stand up.

And that's it. And you just get transported. And that was what he was, I mean, he was just phenomenal. Phenomenal. Yeah.

He's, he's incredible. And it's the company was great. I used to go and see them. Did you ever do anything like, did you do a lot of theater in New York when you were? No, no, I was working already.

And the last play I did, in fact, Phil was there. We did he, I think he was doing Jesus' Haptie A. Train. Or he was directing it. But we were all over.

And then Gwyneth was doing proof. And Casey, Affleck and I were doing, this is our youth. And we were all in the West End in the same summer. None of us saw each other's plays because we were on the same schedule. But we were all, it was like the Ripley reunion, kind of, right.

And I think Jude was like doing something at summer too. But we were all, do you ever get, I'm sure you get offered all the time? Do you ever want to do something on Broadway? I've thought a lot about it. It's the schedule that until my youngest is a freshman, and once she's out of the nest, I would definitely do it.

It's just, it's just not a great schedule for parents. It's crazy schedule. And all the SNL ladies are on Broadway this summer. Like they're all dratches in Rocky Horror, on as in Shwagadoon, Amaya's doing O'Merry right now. I'm like watching them all do it.

And we've had a bunch of Broadway actors on here. Having the hardest part of your day, be the end of your day, every day, sometimes twice a day. It's brutal. So hard. And I remember, even if this is 20 something years ago, doing that play, and I love that play, and I love getting along again.

But this elation coming off stage when things went, when it was like, oh my God, that was something. And then that would last like five minutes, and then I'd go, I have to do this twice tomorrow. And I remember thinking, why didn't someone just film that? You guys are making this so unnecessarily difficult. You can be in the can, we can be in Toronto, we can be in Toronto, we can be in Toronto.

What's happening? Yeah. But yeah, I mean, you know, Cheetos doing proof right now. Yeah, that's right. And he's fantastic.

How fun were those Ocean's movies, by the way? Speaking of Cheetos, that looks like, I mean, what a boondock. Well, I'm not fun for Steven Soderberg. Yeah, he was the one that didn't make them. And you guys were like having cappuccino, and he was like, can we roll?

I mean, God, they look so fun. They look so fun. They were really fun. And it was just a wonderful group of people. And the group, you know, it's like as the movies went along, you know, then suddenly, you know, people were married, people had babies, you know, we were loaning diapers to each other.

You know what I mean? It was just a nice kind of run of life for us. Yeah, you mentioned Clooney. We have a fun thing with, I don't know if you remember us and Clooney and you because what a Hollywood thing. And we have a fun thing with you and Clooney.

But when we when we poked fun at him at the Golden Globes, he's got a great, as do you, great sense of humor about himself. Do you know this that he made stationary? Yeah. Okay, so. Not the first time he's done this.

By the way, and I've told I've said this to space. I'm not talking behind his back. I don't like pranks. I don't like pranks. I don't.

It makes me stressed. He loves them enough for all of us. He does. He loves them. And I'm like, don't do your weird pranks on me.

And he's like, oh, okay. And anyway, Tina and I hosted the Golden Globes. We made a joke that now that you were in TV. You're basically a garbage person because you heard that you were in the movie section anymore. And you, of course, laughed and played along with it.

George Clooney made stationary pretending he was you and sent us like a strongly worded letter saying that would really hurt our place. Really, really hurt my feelings. Now, did he tell you he was going to do it? Okay, got it. No, no, the way I found out.

And by the way, the only reason I found out was because you guys sent me some like fruit basket or something. And I was like, I was so bewildered. We were like, we think this is a prank. That's right. You were covering our bases.

Just in case it's not. It's a real fruit basket. But, and then I called one, I think I called Tina. I was like, what the fuck? Because she lived right down the street from me.

I was on the Upper West Side. And then we put it together pretty quickly. Yeah, I was cleaning these doings. But, yeah, I guess I would have to make them. But it was such a well crafted movie.

That's him. I mean, I've done I think 10 movies. He works with it. Yeah. He's, he's, it's like he sees the Matrix.

Yeah. Like, I really, I mean, by the time, so when we did Behind the Candle Lobber in 2012, so good. But Stephen would, I get to work. We'd shoot a scene. I'd go home at like five o'clock because Stephen operates the camera is the editor is the cinematographer and the director.

And I'd go home and the kids were little and, you know, we bathed them. We'd keep them dinner. We'd read them a story. I'd come downstairs by like eight, seven, three, eight o'clock. And on my iPad, there was a new delivery.

And I'd open it up and it was the scene we shot that day fully scored as it was going to appear in the movie when it came out nine months later. Holy shit. Yeah. So for Michael and me, you know, you're playing this relationship, which is this kind of dysfunctional relationship, it kind of descend into like drugs and it unfolds over time. And so to calibrate the performance is difficult, but not when you can watch.

Yeah. What you just said. Here's the scene that's going to happen after this and here's the scene that just happened before this. I know. And then it's even like, all right, I'm starting on Michael's face and you know exactly where you are at all times.

Oh God, that feels really comforting. It's unbelievable. It's like, and I always say like the only excuse an actor has and it's a legitimate excuse if you suck in a movie is I didn't know what movie I was in. Yeah. That's a totally fair, like if the director just couldn't communicate the tone and didn't, you know, it's very easy to be in the wrong movie.

Here's another Soderbergh story. Like, I did this movie with him in the informant. Right. And yeah, I love that one. And we shot a scene where my character had to apologize to the entire town.

Basically, it's stood up in court and we had the transcript of what he said and those were my lines. And so we're in Illinois. I think it was Springfield, Illinois in the courthouse. He was actually in and the entire cast is there because they're all sitting in the gallery and they're the people that I need to apologize to. And so I stand up and I start to apology and I get, I get legitimately choked up.

I don't mean to. I'm trying not to and I get through it and Steven's kind of shooting a wide shot. And I hear cut and he walks over and I'm sitting at the defense table and he kind of comes up and goes, no. I'm like, no. So fucking no.

I got that shit just happened. That was real. Like, wait a minute. He goes, yeah, no, no. You're in the wrong movie.

And I went, oh, okay. Get me in the right movie. And he sits there and he thinks for a second and he goes, do it like an awards acceptance speech. Oh, incredible direction. Because it was like, yeah, this guy, this guy's movie.

It wasn't, I'm admitting, it was everyone's here for me. Yes, that's right. This is like, wow. Right. And I think that's what I said.

Like, wow. Yeah. And it's like, now both scenes in a vacuum. Also, like, you know, it makes sense that like, I had a real emotion. Like, I really felt something isn't that what I'm supposed to be doing here.

Yes. And so Chris Rinalin, the Odyssey, we're talking about it. You're back with him again. You made three films with him. So we do the thing where we talk to somebody before our guest comes in and talk well behind the back and I talked to Christopher and I was intimidated to be honest.

He's very intimidating. Worsuit, Drank T, and is so good at directing and just such an affordable artist and like really such the director of this decade in so many ways. And you know this because he worked with him so many times. But he's asking a lot of you and you just said earlier, like, that's the part that you're realizing, oh, I'm not going to play with this. I'm actually going to decide that this is going to be the most fulfilling, incredible experience.

But it is still a physical experience. Like, it still means that you have to get in probably the best shape of your life. Yeah. And as a person of similar age, it's like, it's one thing running and punching in, in born in your 30s. It's way different to be getting jacked in your 50s.

It's really hard. It was a complete, complete, complete lifestyle change. Right. So not everything goes away. Like, any other time I tried to do something like that, it was always like, well, my time, my workouts, and I think this was like, no, just everything.

Yeah. Just put your foot on the gas. Yeah. And that's it. That's the only way to do it.

And you're a little less. But no, like, no gluten. No, no gluten, which changed my life. Are you still no gluten? You don't have any desire for it anymore?

Because of the, because of what it does to me. Yeah. Like you were always sensitive to it. I didn't know. Well, it's funny you say that because I feel like our generation, like a lot of food allergies and stuff or whatever or sensitivities, we didn't really have that.

Like, we didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about it. And I didn't realize the level to which it was affecting me and affecting me. Like, it's completely changed my life. Yeah.

It's the last couple of years of not even getting it. And so that's made it like it's a bummer. Yeah. Like I'm a big fan of bread. But I'm a beer.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, you know, pasta and pizza and all that stuff. But yeah, how I feel is just so much better.

Yeah. Incredible. Okay. And then sleep. What's your sleep situation?

Do you sleep? Yeah. I mean, we love to sleep. We got teenagers in the house. Like once you had kids, did you ever sleep well again?

No. Like all the way. It was a lot older. It was this huge stretch where I didn't sleep for, I felt like for like 10 years. Yeah.

I feel like I've been a lighter sleeper. But on this movie, there was, like me and the PAs, we had this kind of joke called the Odyssey Five. If you could get five hours, like you were thrilled. That's tough. Yeah.

That's not a lot of sleep. It was enough. Yeah, it was enough. I get it. But I did realize that five is the cutoff because there were some four nights.

There were some no nights. I had two nights where I did not sleep. Because you were working? No, because I got home and I was like overly tired. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm just sitting there and I missed the window and now I'm panicking. And you're like, tomorrow I literally have to like lift a rock through the mud. Yeah. Like every day.

I have to do springs tomorrow. It seems like so hard. It was hard. It was hard for everybody. That's what made it wonderful.

It's funny you talk about other departments because Chris's question for you. Yeah. A question for you. Which is basically like why haven't you directed? He said, and I quote, you would be an amazing director.

You'd probably be better than me. He lies in interviews. That's his lovely thing to say. That's not true. But it's a very lovely thing to say.

I almost directed a couple things. I almost directed that movie Promised Land in 2012. But I ran along on another movie. And I would have had to come down, put my bags down and leave again. Yeah.

And so I bowed out and then called Gus Van Sant who then stepped in and directed it. So as a producer I made the movie better. Right. And then another movie that John Krasinski and I commissioned Kenny to write Manchester by the Sea. And I was going to direct it.

And then as a script as it started to come in I was like Kenny this and you got to do it. And I was going to play the part. And we were about to start shooting but behind we couldn't get the production office open. We were like five weeks out and I called Kenny and I was like I'm putting you in a position to fail here. Let's take a breath.

And I didn't have anything for two years. I'm sorry I had worked for two years and Kenny was ready to go. And I was like the only person I'm giving this role to is Casey because we all done the play together in London and we're all friends. And I'm like this is the best role that I've seen in a long time. But we were able to get it financed with Casey.

And he stole that Oscar from you. That's how he returned the favor. He took it. I'd like to say I gave it to him. I'm sure he wouldn't mind that.

After ripping his car open in that performance. I loved you. I loved you. Okay lightning round as we end. You have four girls.

You have you've talked so much about how great it is. Do you know the fact the research shows that the more daughters you have the longer you live? Did you know that? I believe it. I've never heard that before.

Research that says you get a year or something out of your life with each daughter and mother's lose a year for each child I have. Yes, of course. The dads get the best. It doesn't matter. The dads get all the years.

And the mothers wither away. That sounds totally fair. No, but having all these women in your life in your house, what's the biggest joy? It's the biggest joy about watching them get older and grow up and become real people in the world. They're so different.

And so different from one another. They're launching into the world now in different ways. I've got one about to turn 28. One who just turned 20. And then we still have two in the nest of 17, almost 18 and 15.

They're just amazing. They're my favorite people. And I feel very lucky that I grew up with just a brother and it was just a side of the human experience that I just didn't have access to. And I got that in that next chapter of my life. It's just been beautiful.

Okay. And your comfort watch. What are you? I was thinking about changing the channels and watching movies. There must be a lot of times where you're like, I was in that, I work with that person.

I almost got that part. There's a lot of movies that you've been in and a lot of movies that you know a lot about or that you've produced or that. So what is a comfort watch? One that you can watch where you can check out. I mean, if it's on, I'm watching it.

Usually Will Ferrell's movies. Like in our house, you kind of can't go wrong with him. We've watched Step Brothers and Taladega Nights and again and again and again. Lays of Glory too. Oh my God.

And Will Speck is a great friend of ours. That's right. That's definitely in the Pantheon. Oh my God. That movie.

How fun and down that movie is. It's so genius. Okay. And water. How do we fix it?

Oh my God. And this is a speed round. But I mean, I've been reading the work you're doing. It's incredible. What should we be doing?

What can we do? And you can donate directly or there's this new, what we have Get Blue, which we launched this summer, which is if you see anything that says Get Blue on it, if it's, or if you know, there's hoodies and t-shirts at the cap, let's say Get Blue, there are, you can go to Starbucks and get a Blue Macha or a coconut refresher and proceeds from that. We'll go to Water.org and do the work we're doing. We've reached 92 million people so far, which is really something because we do it through microfinance through these small microlones. And had we stayed with drilling wells, it would have taken us 600 years to get to where we are right now.

So it's scaling. It's a sustainable solution. Yeah, that's a big one. That's 600 years too long. Okay, so last question I ask everybody, anything you're watching right now that's making you laugh, video, a scene from a show.

I literally, last night. Okay, great. So my kids who are watching this thing called Love Island. Oh, yeah. The teens are obsessed.

I couldn't do it. I can't do it. I get too much on embarrassing. Yeah, I couldn't. But before, we literally sat down, we had some friends visiting, then they have a teenage daughter and they're staying with us.

And so the kids at dinner were like, we're going to watch this thing. So we sat down and it didn't come until nine. And so we're flicking and there's something called Temptation Island. Oh, yeah. And so, and so I get so we look at the little thing.

I'm like, you guys want to give this a shot for an hour before Love Island comes on. And I mean, it was, it did not disappoint. Am I wrong that Temptation Island is if you make out or have sex, you're out? No, I, from what I could understand. Okay, that's, wait, that's called Too Hot to Something.

I watched, I watched episode one of season two last night. And it was, they introduced these four couples. Four Un-Merry couples. Yeah, four Un-Merry couples. Travel to a tropical island to have their fidelity tested, which they bring in people.

They bring in hot singles. It was so funny. So they bring in the hot singles and all the guys come in and like rip their shirts off. And they're like, you made a mistake bringing her here, bro. I don't know how long it lasts.

We did make it through an episode, but it was really funny. Oh, that's great. And my friend, she was, she was really with her daughter and we were howling. But it's these four couples and you're like, and you know, and the kids are like, trying to, either taking bets on which couples are going to make it. I'm like, you know guys, I doubt if they all just were faithful to each other.

They wouldn't be much of a show. So I have a feeling. Someone's going to buy something. I see some cracks in the veneer. Also the acting exercise of having to come in and be so confident.

It's unbelievable. It's like, I'm breaking you guys up. I know, I know, it's unbelievable. The women and the men, they're just, you've never seen more confident people. Couples get all, you know, they do these in-depth interviews and then, you know, where they're, where it's just like, you know, he's had a problem with fidelity in the past.

It's time to prove it. He's going to prove it by going to Temptation Island. And like, you see these guys, like they get split up into steps. So the four guys who are in the couples, they get split up from their partner and they go into a house with, you know, 10 gorgeous women. And you see these guys start to crack within 30 seconds.

Well, I mean, I didn't know it was going to be like this. What does a man supposed to do? It's also the, they're, they're like, they're all in their twenties. And they're all like, you know, you know, I mean, she really means a lot to me. We'll be together for 15 months.

And it's like, I mean, after six months, I mean, I had my laps and I was unfaithful to her. But since then, I've been, and you're just like, this is a fucking disaster. I don't know if I'll hang in there. I made it through one episode. We had some laps.

I love that the kids are like, I don't know. They seem pretty in love and you're like, I don't feel like someone's going to fall. Just from a writing perspective, I can tell you we're going to need some, a little more conflict. It would be so sad too for that casting. And they're like, good news is you got temptation on it.

Oh my God, exciting. Bad news is you're not coming into tempting of the people. Why not? We just thought it would be better if you were the lady that worked at the island. Well, Matt, thank you so much for coming to do.

And this was such a blast. Congrats on this incredible movie and all of work you do. And thanks so much for being here. I appreciate it. Thanks guys.

Well, thank you so much, Matt Damon, hometown hero of mine, Boston Boy Done Good. Thank you for coming in. It's been a pleasure to talk to you and your work is incredible. So congrats on that and keep doing it. And for this polar plunge, you know, Matt talked very briefly about something that he created, a global nonprofit at water.org.

But what it really is is an incredible organization founded by himself and Gary White. And they provide microloans to, you know, make sure that there's clean water and proper sanitation all over the world. So it's pretty awesome. I mean, sometimes on these plunges, I talk about, oh, I don't know a song I'm listening to or I could use this plunge to goof around about the Martian. I want to just remind you to go donate time, energy or money to water.org.

And go see the Odyssey. I mean, the Odyssey doesn't need me to pump it. Everyone in the world is going to go see it. Okay, thanks. We're listening.

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