Matt Millen--former NFL player, GM and broadcaster and current heart-transplant candidate--and Chicago Bears defensive tackle Akiem Hicks

Millen, who is awaiting a heart transplant at New Jersey hospital, on his prospects for getting a new heart, on his pragmatic and optimistic approach to the transplant process, on his appreciation of the life he's led in his 60 years, and where this mental approach comes from.Hicks, one of the keys to the strong Chicago defense, on his long and winding road to the top of the NFL, on playing college football in Canada, on working in a DirecTV call center trying to get people to sign up for the NFL package while his own football dream seemed to be dying, and on playing the Rams in the game of the week this week in the NFL. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.