Matt Terrill: Former Chief of Staff for Marco Rubio on the talks between the US and Russia on ending the war in Ukraine

There's an expectation Ukraine won't be left out of peace deal negotiations.   US and Russia have agreed to appoint teams to negotiate ending the war following high-level talks in Saudi Arabia, to which neither Ukraine nor Europe were invited  Russia says it will talk with Ukraine if "necessary".  US Secretary of State Marco Rubio's former chief of staff Matt Terrill told Andrew Dickens the meeting in Saudi Arabia was just a first step at getting Russia to the table.  He says ultimately Ukraine, Russia, and other key players will need to be there too.  LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.