Matt Vincent, Professional Log Thrower Wears Kilts

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The first! Yeah, it's pretty cool. Welcome to the show everybody, we're here, we're doing stuff. We got a guest, we got Matt Vincent in the house.

Matt Vincent is a guy that is a professional log thrower. He throws trees and huge rocks and wears a dress and he's the number one champion dress wearing a log thrower in the world. It's like several times over and then he had, and then just to like show off, he had 75 knee surgeries. You're like winning, you're like the most knee surgeries out of any person.

Not even, because I know a lot of people have had a lot of knee surgeries. He's mine for words. And yours is worse than, I guess I don't read books, but I do know about older people and their crusades, I've never heard of any punny that's had. How many, like 27?

Yeah, I've not. Oh here. It's slightly exaggerated. It seemed like that Ducky Metchar's like, wait, how many knee surgeries are you in?

Whatever you'd like that. I'm gonna lean in too. It seemed like so many. And you've got the old school knee surgery scar is like...

Yeah, I got that in like 2019. Why? Total knee replacement. Because I gotta open the whole thing up, cut off the bottom of the femur, cut off the top of the tip, make it out of metal.

But that was the one that fixed it. Yeah. I mean, fixed it. It's not nearly as good as I'm making.

Oh, I'm seeing you run. Yeah, it's not great. This video of him running off a pier with a bunch of friends and him running off the pier is like, wait, you go on long hikes. Yeah.

Like he shows stuff where he rides some bikes somewhere or a forerunner and they camp with these super hot Jack girlfriend. But then they like, here I am in the mountain and the top of a, and I'm like, that doesn't look like that was like a 15 minute wall. Like, and then didn't you do like a real long, like a race or something. Yeah.

So I did two years ago, I decided to do a run mostly because I suck at running. That's, we should just get you running in the backyard to see you run and then to say that you went in and... Oh, if you let me warm up for like an hour, it totally changes. You won't look hot, dude.

No, it's a disaster. It's pretty crazy. And look, the video you saw me run at the end of the pier, like I'd also just been on a motorcycle for like seven hours a day. Okay, so you just quit on that batch.

It's not always that bad. Okay. Because that was bad. Yeah, it can be.

I'm picturing the little brother in a Christmas story. Ralph, you come back. I'm just going to go for a little while. I mean, so you know, as far as you go before you got the chains off.

Yeah, yeah, braces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I had leg braces as a kid. I know you didn't. I only had leg braces as a kid. I found them.

Like I don't remember ever wearing them. I swear man. And I've seen them. I've had bad legs from the get go.

Super pigeon toad. To begin. That's what it was for. Yeah.

Yeah. So they were trying to fix that. Never worked. It didn't work.

No. You definitely did or do not recall wearing braces on your legs. I don't remember wearing them. I remember finding them and being like, what are these?

So you were walking. So you were at least like five or something. No. How old do people start walking?

That's like 18 months. 18 months or so. Okay. That's just so crazy to me that somebody could have had such a huge formative experience and have no recollection of it.

I wonder if your mom's gaslighting you. Maybe. I also am such a disaster that the chances have heard getting me to wear those may have just not been worth the fight. Right.

So I don't remember. They're definitely for children. There's no way you discover parents as an m dear and they had to. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm just like this. Leather straps. I guess I'll bring it out. I'm not sure at all.

But now that I got it fixed, right? This one is still pigeon toed like it's ever been. And then this one now turns out slightly. So it's like I walk.

Wow. Really cool like that. You're like windshield wipers. Always stuck to the right side.

Just constantly handed right. So was that when you were in the Highland Games? Was that a? Did that affect you?

So during the Highland Games, like the knee didn't get you into right at the end. But when you were performing and your feet were pointed a bit in? Yeah. Both in.

Okay. Yeah. Do a real quick background on that for people who didn't hear you on our old show. Highland Games, what's the 30 seconds and ops?

Yeah. So it is a old Scottish athletics. So heavy Scottish athletics started like 700 years ago. It began when English took the weapons from the Scots.

And so this is how they would still meet up as clans and have a thing to compete in. So they trained with like random form equipment with stones and hammers and weights and like that. And so we got into the sport. I found it in like 2008 and it's comprised of nine events.

So you have two stones, you throw for distance just like a shot bullet. You have two weights, you throw for distance. It's like a one handed kind of a kettlebell looking thing with a chain. Then you have two hammers, you throw for distance.

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I just think it's the size of it, right? There's amateur level ones for beginners. How much lighter are they? Where do I get starter cavers?

I want to go big. I want to go big. Is it capable for a normal man to throw one at all? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think you're athletic. You're strong. I think we could work through some things. What is learning it is like the pick, which is the fair pick it up.

It's too far. It's too far. It's just standing and it's been holding from the bottom. Right.

So you're going to balance standing with it, right? And then you work your way down to the bottom with your hands interlocked. Pinch it with your palms and you toss it in the air. So you're not a hole.

That move. Yeah. And then balance it out like a baseball bat, right? You're onto the base or just on the base.

Okay. Yes. You want to be under the base that way whenever you slip and pull on it. Right.

Because you go through it. Okay. What do they get these things? Because I was surprised it was as light as it was given how thick.

It's a 20 foot tall telephone. It looks way more than 200 pounds. So they have to be dried out. Like if you have a 20 foot tree, it's going to weigh 200 kilos, 400 plus pounds.

Right. Right. But after it dries out after a couple of years, it's usually pine or they vary. Gotcha.

Kind of depending on wherever you are. I threw away my Christmas tree finally like two days ago. Oh, great. There you go.

It was a lot easier to move. I thought I got my going through it. It's a lot easier to move from one stress before you start. What if you had more of knee surgeries or kilts?

Definitely. Oh, it's probably pretty close. Neck and neck. Not too far.

I changed kilts kind of every season. And so I changed these. I just did those in a rush all at the end. Like all nine surgeries were within like 18 months.

Oh, yeah. So once it went bad, it just we tried to fix it and then that didn't work great. So it was like five ACLs and then chasing some other surgeries to get out of pain and then finally totally replace it. When you say five ACLs, how many of those were repairs?

How many of those were synthetic? How many of those were cadavers? The very first time I tore my ACL was in college. So doing track and field at LSU ended up tearing it, got it fixed.

And so we did that time. You could have options of either using your own patella tendon or your hamstring tendon as a graft. And so we attempted to use my hamstring tendon. I have this big gnarly hole in my hamstring now that I'm not as fat and I can see it from where they pulled it and they weren't able to use it.

So that thing's cashed. And so then they did a patella tendon anyway. So now both options are kind of shot on the first ACL. And then I tore it in 2005 at a skate park when I owned a bike shop such as life.

I saved some little kid rolled out in front of me as I'd come down a road. Just put a leg out the stop. I just high sided and felt it pop and that was that and then being 22, I didn't fix it. So from that through the end of me competing and everything, I just didn't have one.

And then it got to a point where I couldn't quite get it straight anymore. And if I can't straighten my leg, I can't extend my hip, I can't push and throw far. And throwing poorly, not lining it up is the worst. It's not fun.

It doesn't feel good to try. It just feels terrible. It's like, it's this frustrating is trying to throw a punch in a dream feels. It's just like walking in serious.

Oh, gross. It's punching after grappling a long time. Oh, you feel like you didn't even get to try. I caught spaghetti arms.

Perfect. I have any arms. I don't even think and can I raise my hand enough to cover my face to stop the next punch? Like I was actually worried.

I was like, come on hand, come on. I came up and I was like, okay, they'll come up to my face. They just won't come out to your face. I just need to make them think they will.

But then it comes back. Then I'll have it. About a minute later, I could throw again and I was like, okay, go. The old oxygen gets back.

It takes back over. Yeah. So I started at the end of that season. I was like, we're going to go in and do an ACL surgery.

I got a year worth of rehab. I'm shooting content for YouTube at that point. I'll document it. Hurrah, we went another world championship right?

I did the first ACL and we used a graft since the other option is to go into this knee and that's crazy. Yeah. Crazy idea. This one works.

Yeah. I don't like your doctors. I mean, that's the options. They weren't telling me to do a thing.

So we went with a synthetic or a cadaver. So did cadaver and then went in. They say you weren't better. Apparently.

I've got a couple friends that have the synthetics and they've had a lot of synthetics. Like Matt Hoffman used to have one in his pocket. So whenever he got knocked out and Bluey's knee out, he would give the doctor in whatever town he was in, the synthetic to put in there because he figured he probably popped it. Matt Hoffman's one of the gnarliest dudes in the world.

No, he is the gnarliest. I've never heard of it. I've never heard anybody go into another country because it's illegal to do a certain operation and he wanted to make sure that he did it right. So he used no anesthesia and watched it happen.

You ever had no anesthesia and had your kneecap drilled? No, that's what it has. You ever been a vaccine driver at your own knee surgery? Matt Hoffman.

You know Matt, like him watching it wasn't helping anything. Like what are you going to do? Like give him a point or you don't know what's happening in maniac. No, I'd rather be asleep.

Yeah, so once we started fixing it, I did the cadaver tissue, did like three months of rehab, went in, got it checked and they're like, it's not there. It's not there. It's not there. Wouldn't there?

Like my body just ate it? Yeah. No. Yeah.

And so 10 days later, we did another ACL, try again with like a cadaver Achilles since they're big gnarly things. Yeah, I don't like your doctors. Are these highly games doctors? I just found them in the street.

Traditional Scottish medicine? Kind of piecey. What the hell? Just got to deal with it.

We put a toe inside your knee and you don't have any toes anymore, but your knee is right. There's more than I guess. Looks like an eight-your-toe's. Just like your hand.

Shut up your ass. That'll make your knees work. Like, what the hell, dude? Yeah, at the time.

I mean, he was a guy doing all the surgeries for the Saints and was doing all the stuff for the other sports teams in New Orleans. This Saints good, Michael? Oh, not enough. They're competitive NFL squad.

I would say they still have good athletes. They've got knees. Okay. You've seen knees in that?

That's my team. That's my team. So yeah, we did that routine through five ACLs. Yeah.

So apparently me and cadaver tissue, not so cool. Right. Either that or the rest of my knee that's so gnarly just doesn't allow any new friends to come on board. So I noticed all your videos because I follow you and obviously, you know, Wolf Knives is about to come out through Not Dead yet, which I love the name so much more now.

Oh man, you know what's easier that is to tell people? Yeah, because I, yes, dude, because I've had to tell people, you for one word a long time and still weren't saying it right. This is my fault. Yeah.

I'm aware of that so much. Which is Roman numeral friggin. It was the name of the brand. Yeah.

It is no longer. It is no longer. We have redone everything to Not Dead yet. Not Dead yet.

Okay. That is because it had been a Roman numeral and people got no trouble with regular numerals. Also in a world where the words you're saying are getting noticed, I don't think it means saying hate a bunch of times. It's super helpful.

Are you saying hate with a bunch of white white letters and tattoos? It's not a good idea. No, no, no. You're saying hate has negative connotations.

Weird. Weird. Yeah. So change feels good.

I mean, even since I've already had a couple people have ordered and said they saw you in it, right? And they're like, oh, I saw it said Not Dead yet. And then Googled it. I'm like, well, that's the first in the last nine years that I've had this apparel.

No one's ever been like, I saw it on a shirt somewhere and just started to look it up. Because you probably wouldn't have found it. How would you? Well, I think it's great.

I'm not a business guy when it comes to like, I got an idea. It's going to make me tons of money. I've never heard of that. I never came up with that idea.

But I've always wanted my clothing line to have good clothing and I've been wearing your stuff. We're not, I don't get paid. I just wear it because it's my favorite stuff to wear. I'm not on camera off camera.

I don't care. I'm wearing it. And then to make my stuff so I know that not only can I wear it the first day after I wash it, I can put it back on and it will look exactly the same as it did last time. That was not a thing that I could do through benchmark.

They were not into quality. Yeah. It's really a profit. If you're in business, it's not like we're in Macy's or anything.

So it was probably the smart move, but I always was pushing to try to, like, I got my t-shirts made custom, I'm not wearing them because I'm a t-shirt like Nazi. That's what we go existing. As t-shirts, right? That's what we're all wearing all the time.

So having decent stuff so you can wear all the time, it doesn't fade. It doesn't get trashy. I just thought from jump right? Like I have to make it on nice enough stuff that people wear it despite that it's my brand.

You know, because the mission accomplished. Yeah, because everyone's got shirts that they just grab. They know it's their shirt. time it anymore.

A little bit depending on what time it but sure if it's a really good shirt it is hard to like that means so much to me. The struggle of a janky t-shirt is such a bane of my existence. I got pants on to put my shirt on and I look and I go that's not what it was last time. What is this crank?

And then I throw it off and I go look at another one and you know and then I realized that I've got a hundred t-shirts and there's really 12 of them that I want to wear. Yeah. So everyone keeps asking me especially now I know this podcast isn't going to come out today but Wolfknife, apparel, Wolfknife, memberships, I'm getting hammered because Wolfknife shop is shut right and everyone wants to know where the new stuff is and I'm working on it because I know what's in the package and I'm like this is what I wanted it to be 10 years ago. Yeah I'm stoked on it too man.

Yeah I'm stoked on getting a chance to design it and help curate it and help make it amazing stuff dude. When I started seeing all this stuff you will make it I was like yeah yeah like that and you had a lot more to do with it than me. It was very impressive. I really dig the shorts because what I do a pair of goats shorts and one of those fam is going to dig the shorts.

I feel so man I'm a rare I do get some looks from some of my MMA friends sometimes. Oh hey and I know they're not saying it but I know they just went dude those are short shorts you know well good we're starting to make three inch insane ones shorter yeah see some of them have me incredibly happy. Same I love it. I leave these things out as much as possible.

Because you have jacked ones in that. Well it makes you much more of the only things I've ever had is like you got like good looking shape. Yeah you know that you're right. Way like yeah you can't live for shit anymore.

But you look way better. They close feet you in a way where you can get away with it so now you're flexing because it's more like a cleavage thing for you. The legs have always been there they're smaller than they were but they definitely give the appearance of me being leaner than I really am. Well I like it I don't know everyone else.

I like it. Yeah why not. But is that a weird thing like having it takes so much work and I can only imagine how glorious it is to watch your body transform and get impressive and then really impressive and then like wow I'm the most impressive guy in a room full of impressive guys to go backwards. Does it feel like a little death to be like oh I don't have my tree trunk legs anymore.

For sure like sorting out the loss of that identity was right weird and I when I got hurt man I remember feeling like why would anyone listen if I can't maintain this squat that I used to be able to do or this certain level of whatever that was that I had earned and the idea of not being able to maintain it means I wasn't ever that. It didn't I mean obviously this is not a totally rational sentiment that you're operating off of but you did ring the bell you do have the titles and those can you know my important doesn't need to be able to dunk anymore because he has the rings. You do at least have the rings. Yeah but it's something that you've invested so much time into that it seems crazy to let go.

Yeah and like also admit that like that's not that important to me anymore. Yeah that might be the bigger fit the bigger fit. Right and then decide then what is more important because man as much as I love the pursuit of what Mac's strength was and got to push myself in all those realms I found it. I found the most I'll ever lift.

I'm not going to find it at 50 I'm not going to find it now at 40 with a bum knee. So let's spin that energy on some other pursuits that we can get good at like I know those metrics. Yeah and so I don't want I'm just not that excited to figure out like what's the most utter squat on it. I think there's a lot of people who were really accomplished at stuff I think a band for example where if they were being honest with their audience and being honest with themselves they're not all that excited about the new album but they also don't have another thing that they're excited about and it's really hard to shed the old skin when you don't have a new one already grown underneath it.

Yeah like my interest have always been so varied that even doing the Highland games as much as I loved it you know kind of to the lack of interest in some of the guys I competed with who took it a bit more serious. I just always remember saying like it's a thing I did and not who I am. Yeah right right and what it's a logs. Yeah exactly right like how far I throw this rock today isn't going to make it on my tombstone anyway.

It's a cool thing I got to do on the next and so once I kind of really came to terms with that I couldn't do that ever again then it opened a lot of doors and then remembering again of what I really loved about the sport was I loved getting better at it. Like I liked having a thing that I'm obsessed about that I can just pour all the energy into and figuring it out and learning the puzzle of like what helps what does this blah blah blah blah blah and so deciding like okay I can't do that anymore I'm terrible at running. How much better can I get it running in 12 weeks? Can I get good enough to go do this Bryce Canyon trail run that was like 18 miles and like 4000 feet.

Can I get good enough to enjoy it? Like not just be out there on some death march to prove a point but like oh man we're doing a thing that old me who was stronger couldn't do. And then last year we trained and I did a 243 mile bike ride in a single day. Nope.

It was 21 hours 22 minutes. Wait straight? Yeah. No sleep.

Yeah we started at midnight and finished at like 9.30. Did you get off to poopy? Yeah or get food? And then back on.

Should keep moving? We tied? Yeah. It's a lot.

I mean that's a 22,000 calorie effort. Isn't that what we figured? And in a group what do you spread out? Me and one friend.

Dude. Spent a bunch of it by myself and like that's part of it right. Was the puzzle I really wanted to figure out was through the training of it? Can I figure out how to fuel and hydrate and manage that so that this tries to give up first?

Yeah. Yeah. Because the ride is not complicated. It was flat and it's a straight line the whole time.

There's no turns or anything to figure out. I've got help that brings us food at stop points like not having to solve any problems. Just pedal. Okay.

And so like how's the head gonna manage that? When does it want to give up? Did you ever get so tired while you were pedaling that you almost fell asleep pedaling? Yeah.

Because I was wondering how? Yeah around like like 6.30 in the morning. Yeah. Because we're a little over like 100 miles in at that point.

And I just remember like waddling and being like what's going on? And I realized I haven't been eating for the last three hours. And that wakes you up from that point on like I just had a bag of gummy bears like a frog on my bike. And those things are a certain amount of calories and I just kind of always have one in my mouth.

Yeah. And then we eat like a Snickers bar. That's like me except I'm not pedaling. Perfect.

I just always have a gummy bear in my mouth. That's like Lance Armstrong only steroids. Right. That's the way you take them.

That's how I've learned. Remember one time Katie I fell asleep with the gummy bear in my mouth and you try to take it out. I woke up and grabbed it and put it back in. I went to sleep chewing on it.

That was not the only time. I really like gummy days. I think right. One time I passed out and thought I had vomited blood in my sleep and it turns out it was just I passed out eating Oreos.

We thought Oreo was blood. It was brown. It was cake brown. I just thought that I was falling out all over the place.

I ruined my pillow and I said, okay, I'm gonna stop drinking. Have you ever read any of the reviews for like the sugar free Heribo gummy bears? Do I look like I read reviews Matt? You know if you read the reviews people talk about these things just ripping through them with explosive diarrhea.

You go in Amazon. It's just like I got some of these and ruined 12 hours of my life. Mine spicy food. I just gave it the other day.

I ate a ghost pepper chicken sandwich with Tony. Shout out to Dave's chicken. But I came home on the freeway my stomach is already hurting and I came home and Katie wasn't home. So I was just here on the couch and then I go to the bathroom and on the couch and it wasn't I felt like I just had to get it out and it wasn't coming out.

And then finally it started coming out and I was like, wait, why do I feel like I'm gonna vomit? And I hadn't eaten all day. All I had was that ghost pepper sandwich. And when I got back here I ordered a sahi smoothie.

So I had the smoothie. And then when I started to do the poopy, the smoothie came out like a fire hose. So I had a bucket in my hand fire hose smoothie while exploding the back door. And I was like, I had one bite of that sandwich.

Tony ate the whole burger and then flew to New York to do Saturday Night Live. Fire. No problems. Because he does it.

I had the other the guy. Oh, you don't do spicy food? No. My check doesn't do spicy food, but she's from the Midwest.

Well, I think that there was a time in Australia where the only spicy food you could have got was Thai food. And I think a couple of times because there was an option. Super spicy. I was like, yeah, super spicy.

I like testing myself and I couldn't eat it. And it made me like my mouth went numb and I couldn't taste the food. And I remember saying, what's the point of this? You don't you can't taste the food you ordered.

And I was a young boy and I was sweaty and my mouth was stinging. And I was like, right, I don't really do that. Every now and then when I was drunk, I would do the wasabi challenge where I would eat a giant block and whoever ate more like we keep going. You both lose.

Yeah, but I never had a potty problem from it. It was more like I'm sweating and reacting in a way where it's very apparent that my body's not as good with spicy food as yours. But I never had a stomach problem. But I think once I got older, my stomach started to react to things.

Like if I ate ice cream at night, I would crack myself old morning. Oh, the latter. Yeah. And I think I was never lactose intolerant, but my wife is and she was like, you're lactose intolerant.

I'm like, no, not. And then the next time I eat ice cream, it would happen again. And I was like, okay, maybe there is stuff. But did you have like a window that you skipped eating ice cream for a long time?

Probably. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I always do things like that. If there's a fire, I just jump off star for getting to my plant base.

You know, I've always tried to do stuff. Yeah, why not? Right? Same.

I mean, it definitely does it now. I think if I had a milkshake with actual milk in it right now, within two hours, I'd have a stomach thing. So I just got when you're older, trying to enjoy a can of corn. Your your an adventurous guy, right?

You travel, I do for work. For a pleasure. Right. Where have your travels taken you last year?

We went to Patagonia. We did three big motorcycle trips. And then we went to Alaska for a week. Patagonia.

That's an Argentina. All right. It's the bottom of the planet. I knew it was more than a jacket.

Yeah. Right before the ice wall. Right before the ice wall. Yeah, it's nice to know that's a schwaya is like a most southern point.

And then that's where you would leave to go to an article where the alleged ice wall. The end of the earth. Yeah. The alleged ice wall.

Some people say camp of thrones is real. That's right. The flat earthers believe that's what is the edge of the thing. That's where the ice wall is that way?

Is that also where the hole is that the last you go to the center? Into the ice wall. So is there. How can there be both a flat earth and a hole in the earth that they can conjure up?

Oh, different theory. Different theory. Just one of those is flat earth. The other is hollow earth.

Both are equally as lunatic. We're going to watch those two people debate each other. Are there any frozen guys on the other side of the wall with the blue eyes? We could never know.

Because maybe it's for the best of that wall is there. No kidding. I don't want to fight those guys. This year's travel is exciting.

I do actually. I feel like that's my problem. That you want to fight white walkers? I just want to be taken over.

Like make a zombie out of me or forgive me the the the the the the prick and then I become a robot. I told about it with Tony once. I was like if it's just you may programming so I'm just like content with whatever it is I'm doing all day. Yeah.

Some type of shot that turns into a robot. Yeah. Remember they said that if you take the vaccine it's got like a thing in it and so it can control you potentially. Oh, okay.

You didn't hear that one? Maybe it's up there with the ice wall. It's really exciting. I got you man.

I don't think it was the problem. They got to be better this than I know. You're going to just stop me from worrying about stuff and like what my next goal is. Like I'm just going to be content with a robot sandwich.

I'm cool with that. I was kind of thinking about that on the way here because I got off at the wrong highway exit for the second consecutive time at the exact same. I was like actually this time I was like don't get off with that then only the little can you don't get off a little can you and I was like I don't I don't think I'm losing my mind but people who are losing their minds never think they're losing my mind and then I realized if I'm losing my mind I'm cool with it so that's fine. Yeah.

And if I'm not if I ever lose my mind it's fine as long as the first part of your mind your mind that you lose is the part that's afraid of losing your mind. Yes. If you lose that part first. Yeah.

Come on sweet oblivion. Yep. I would cut that bit out if you gave me an off and show me where it was. Which supposedly I heard one time as a real thing supposedly it's in the annals of medical history.

Some of the ass person owe the annals. Somebody for every animal you've been in. Yeah. So he was depressed and trying to take their life.

Develop it baby. Some people try to take their own life by shooting themself either in the mouth or underneath the chin and survive but somehow not the exact part of their brain that was causing the depression so they survived. So they're super happy with no face. So dumb so drooly but alive.

Face that right. I don't know how to face it. I think it would be really hard to pinpoint that that's the only thing that fixes depression. I don't think that person was probably you know working as an accountant anymore after that.

That's fair. He could be the guy that brings the ball wimps or model. He's got him just be like bring me the ball world. The whole day.

He just looks like their character in Hannibal with the yeah. Yeah. That's great. Probably was.

I remember. I was a greeter at Walmart. That one in their lips. Oh they're super needed.

Are they? Yeah. Go ahead Matt. Tell me what's that great about lips.

It's not so much that lips are great but the absence of them is a real problem. Going up T forward. Like we got you set up this bit. Like that's a lip.

Would you not call it your upper lip. This is my upper lip. What's that for that word. Well I'm talking about just having no lips.

But you can still have it up. You can still have a mustache. You can still gummy it. Oh so just like that.

Yeah like it's a lot of meth. So we're eliminating a whole lipstick industry. You could paint lipstick on your no lip to make it look like you got to do it. I've seen people that have very little lips and they're living just really fierce.

Worst part is a dad that has no lips and then he makes a baby and then there's a girl and then the girl has no lips. She's so not hot. We can fix that. We have that college.

I think so. Yeah. I was thinking about doing that stuff. It gets a little loose.

You got to feel your lips. No I'm not on my lips. I'm getting old. You're going for a Botox?

Yeah. My daughter is one time for the show. I did it. Okay.

But not for actual the purpose of it's more for the show. The person was like I'm having someone do Botox today. Okay. And I was like okay.

And then I think I did notice it. I was like oh yeah I see how I did something. Yeah you're injecting poison in your face. Yeah that throws it off a little bit.

A bit. But I mean it does it does the thing. Yeah I don't know. I don't have the money for it but I think I'm thinking about Botox.

What am I again? That's narcissistic. I'm surprised you don't have the money for it because I can't believe how many people in this city do have the money for it. I think it's your priorities.

Do I have the money for it? Yeah but then I probably have to not buy wheat or something. It's like you're mistaken. I don't know how to be hideous.

Because I was getting kind of bummed out so I looked into therapy and mine I have decent insurance. It doesn't cover it and it would have been out of pocket like I don't know like $1,500 a month. Oh my god. I just decided I don't have a reference to do that.

Just get to the bar with your friend. Don't know how bad it is. Find some buddies. You do a lot of motivational stuff lately Matt.

I don't know if you were like that when you were a younger man but I feel like when I started the Jason L Show I had my theories on how to get stuff done and I think that it helped the show. I think I helped a lot of people because I get motivated but I feel like what you talk about you're better at making sense of it. I don't know if it's because I'm more of a I just drive. I don't like technique wise.

I figured this out from talking about skateboarding recently where somebody was asking me a long time ago how to do a certain trick and where do I look and then I said I don't know and I was like let me just do it right now so that I can refresh myself and tell you and I didn't know where I was looking even when I did it. I was like where are you looking at if you don't know what you're looking at? No you're in it. Yeah yeah yeah same way I would feel if someone asked me what I'm looking at throwing like and it's a certain concern with comedy.

I feel like there's a lot of people that are more precision like word for word like actual timing and beats and paying attention to a lot of other stuff a lot more technique in minds more of it's the same I'm doing the same thing in everything I do I don't really get critical with where my feet are like I'm fighting it's more just a feel and then just repetition like where you start to figure out as you go how to make it better. You know it definitely wasn't it's into it younger right no I would have written off a lot of it as kooky and like the self-help thing or whatever but now you're you know I want to know I always know a fence that everybody else out there that's on social media telling me how to you know get up in the morning and do burpees but I just feel like if you haven't done it at a really high level I find it how to trust you it's tough right now I feel you for myself working out stuff where if you're telling me this is a way to do it I'm listening to you yeah because you were at one point one of the strongest people in the world and then you change your body completely to do other activities that still require a lot of athleticism and consistency that's why that's one of those keys and so like the more I got to look back on my sport when it was over and trying to figure out like what am I gonna do with my life or the brand or anything yeah it was starting to take like what did we really learn and it was okay it takes 10 years to be good at a thing and honestly one of the first times I heard that is listening to you guys years ago on the show and I remember you talking about getting into radio and you're like it takes 10 years I mean for the ride like just give me 10 years I'll be great at this yeah and so like really just admitting that to myself allows for a lot of learning because it's going to take 10 years yeah and so the more now that I've kind of gotten into self-development and figuring out my mindset and my perspective on things I feel like I can control a lot more where my energy ends up and I don't want it spent on some idiot in traffic that I'll never talk to right that's an NPC I'll never deal with that guy and so he doesn't care about my day so why would I give him any of like the 2% of my day that I could have focused on my life yeah um yeah I've got that I think I forget it because I've hit my head so much but when things get crazy and there's a lot of negative a lot of negativity happening around me when I'm thinking straight it's don't respond just get it just block it right because I'm not going to convince you otherwise whatever it is that you've made up in your head and if it's bad then we don't need to be friends we don't need to we don't need to talk to each other you need to go do your thing and I'm going to go do mine because it's there's no I can't convince you that I'm a good person right I'm just going to keep doing me I think those things too like setting boundaries and figuring out all that like I got really lucky on a lot of that because I've been close friends with a bunch of high-performing lunatics all right and so I just got to watch and pay attention to it and learn what I can for each one that figure out if it works for me or it doesn't and if it doesn't work for me it doesn't mean it's trash it just means it's not for me um and then kind of the more I got to thinking about it and wanting to start mentorship group or any of that it was man how many people don't have those resources and how many people aren't exposed to anyone outside of their small town and doesn't get information of someone that wants to share a different way. You know what that makes me want to ask what is the thing that you find people that don't have that you're giving to them like what is the most common thing that is it women too? Yeah we do both what is the most common thing that they they get from it that they didn't they couldn't get without you.

One of the things I see the most right is you end up having this group of people that have got to their mid 30s early 30s and have followed a path which was what their parents expectations were all these other type of things and we're led to believe that if we accomplish this we accomplish this we go to college we get a sheet of paper we get a job and it's you know pays decent amount of money we get a house we have kids we're happy and it doesn't work. Right because you're not doing it for you. Right so you have to find something and I'm not saying uproot all that and start business as a being entrepreneur but you need something that gives purpose and you get easier for a person to excel because they didn't have a routine that they are trying to live up to through parental guidance. I don't know I think it really depends on whenever you get to take awareness and really understand that everything you want to do is on you and as soon as you kind of accept that then I can't say well it was this that didn't let me do it like I'm not waiting for permission and that's where I see a lot of people like well I want to try this and they're looking for permission from these people around them to try new things and like getting people to understand they don't need it it's your life make some decisions some people are going to go some people are going to come into you new but the more you're trying to drag whatever was with you to the next thing you're not open to try right and so helping people kind of find more purpose and more drive and maybe even a community of people that's more willing to talk about getting better at things.

Yeah if you have a group of people that are one of their main objectives is to be better at things it's going to rub off right I know they make it easier to achieve your goals because that's just the way we are I mean we know we've got a team yeah it makes a way easier to get there. I mean I don't care if it's financially or athletically or whatever it is and then if I those two make really good sense to most people yeah but then if I start looking at it like emotionally or figuring out my awareness of what I actually like looking at training for that differently yeah it's tough so but financially or the other you know giving people some options of realizing like what they can do to get out of that day to day stuck yeah you know yeah like what you said with the being like because you can be motivated you can teach somebody to to have a mindset where their goals can be achieved at a faster rate with less stress but I feel like when I started the show there was this that mentality of just go nobody knows it don't listen to anybody don't trust anybody you're going to be doing this by yourself you know how that was my whole thing and I think that is that good for business and athleticism yeah but to be a person in society that is enjoyable and fun to be around with that mindset it gets all it does yeah you need to you need to start thinking about other people and I feel like I was honored to directory well I want him by the same that way I was on a mission and I was just gonna block out everything and then I realized that I was hurting people to get what I wanted and it was selfish and you have to be selfish to get what you want in life but you don't have to it is humanly possible to be selfish to achieve your goals but not step on people's heads right on the way up you don't have to do it that way and I feel like that was the biggest lesson that I've learned in my life because I felt like there was there was this whole other world that I wasn't paying attention to that was the most important part of my life like having friendships and you know my wife still living with me and putting up with me all these things needed to be assessed and I think at one point I was just just go that's all you need to think about I still have problems with that like when a lot of things are happening at the same time it's hard for me to be emotionally there for anybody because I'm in my own head thinking about what I have to do tomorrow to get what I need I think I think sometimes that's still useful right like to be able to to turn it off and disconnect a little bit so that I can make good decisions to drive the boat right now yeah that someone has to take over a leadership role yeah and so being able to do that and not being emotionally pinned by stuff is great too and we end up processing it on the back end a lot of times people don't process anything ever yeah yeah for sure right like you still have to have it of darken it to the point where you don't even know you're darken it right I do that to the point where the first thing I realized I had to face after I faced it I think I went into shock for about two years because I realized that's just the scratching the surface of how many things you've put your foot in that you needed to deal with differently I'm still doing it I had a conversation with Christian Han from Death Death Darkers we're gonna play again and we had a whole big relapse of sorts about the beef that was back in the day and she said he said and I was like dude it doesn't matter it's like your it's like your clothing line like that you're my heart still jumps it will never or not and I bet it days sometimes it's bad and I think I'm out of my about to go to the EI like you know and I'm like no you just panic and relax so I don't know how much longer I'm gonna live and it's just a bigger picture to me when I'm like you don't like this thing that I did 10 years ago I don't like the thing that you did to me 10 years ago but we're gonna die dude also I'm not that old as I go well I'm also not that into me 10 years ago so there's a way I can apologize for him being a moron let me know that's what I was doing but if you want to and if you want to still be mad about that like I don't know what I can't change how you feel I think that the way the discussion went 10 years ago I would have been standing up shouting but this time I was like we this is not helping anybody is there any way that I can rectify the situation because I'm not mad at you man like I only want to like sort this out and I think I don't think for sure 10 years ago when it got to where it got at one point I would have gone up and said you know what don't ever speak to me again sure blah blah blah forget you forget you forget your mother but I did I make like a banana right and I feel like I didn't and we did resolve it and we are gonna play and it's gonna be a magical thing that could have never happened if I couldn't just swallow some weird ego yes ego exactly on stage blank forget your face perfect they can't damn it liquid death in the nose oh man the PG 13 album is gonna be great dude my son's coming to the rainbow show you've made it I know I ran it past the wife in the terms of I went into bed I was like you know I think we're gonna my son is obsessed with Ozzy's obsessed with guitar it loves the rainbows I guess favorite place to go and I'm like I think we're gonna do a warm-up show and she's like why are you I don't care about your way just speaking at you just you know this goes I talk you pretend to listen to you come on we've got this a million times and I said I think it's gonna be at the rainbow she goes oh and I thought oh it's too bad gray can't go and instead to her crunch she's like oh you have to let him go he loves that place he loves guitar I'm like dude forget your face hey hey it's for something to start with a yeah there's lots of reasons for not cuz she knows yeah I'm gonna be the one with the environment and she said she said and I kind of feel the same way as it's all a joke there's nothing actually mean scared it or bad about it they literally are just words but this is kind of putting our money where our mouth is yeah if we play the rainbow my son will be standing on top of some turples in a trench coat like whether you curse or not right like I think you still have to figure out wins the time to use that to create a little bit of a more frictionless life and along with what you were saying right like younger you and I think there's a lot of dudes and people in general that just come from so much conflict all the time and think that's normal and that like that's how this goes up with it right and so you don't realize that like oh wait you guys don't yell at each other in your house on a regular basis yeah yeah and then you know I came from a rad house with great parents and uh but I mean dad was strict she looked at right and so seeing other people's families and being like oh that's different we're now hearing stories from people that I coach or work with and being like yeah man that's not how other people's homes were and you know what you know like that's what you're exposed to it create some bit of normalcy I think what like puts in the base code of whatever your machine is and at some point you can kind of step away and be like oh right I didn't pick that no I can write that and as people often say no days though you know the survival strategies or the success strategy that served you when you were in your parents living room may actively be working again you know there's a pretty good chance of it the more extreme your strategy there's a very good chance it's the thing that's shooting you in the foot now yeah and I think you know hearing people like I mean I don't have conflict with my chick like we communicate yeah you know I've also figured out how to get better at it because she has to deal with a lunatic yeah um good for you trying you know so we can do that's it try to be more aware of it try to figure it out try to figure out why I do the things I do and notice I'm gonna be like oh man why do you react to that to that thing and then why you know dig in is it something I want to keep or not keep do you find it difficult when you see something you need to cut out cut out um I only look at it at this point right like um if I wanted to change it's just a matter of the consistent action yep that's the only thing I even lean on is I know that I won't be perfect I'm trying to fix a thing but if I can stick to it more days than not in six months I'm more that than I am now yep you might be the most enlightened killer I've ever met I'll take it you think you'll whereas they're not enlightened I do fair enough I would say some of the guys in Scotland uh one of the more legendary guys uh Hamish Davidson Hamish less enlightened man that guy's a maniac I heard him on our like announcing one of the games we did in ever foil and he's like ah you're kin I was arrested in the woods behind glen maw for sexual indecency nothing minor you're kin I'm like they're on a microphone yeah that's a weird thing to say I think he probably told several people off the microphone he was a bit notorious for uh because he was urinated upon on a regular basis I like to be paid on seem to be okay yeah the boyfriend that was into that yep I always found it super entertaining when he says nothing minor did he mean children weren't involved or he committed major sex event I think major sex events okay I think major sex events if I really had to guess he was he was a guy that for I don't know why like the games tolerate but he's just such this character so like we know going to his game that he's gonna try to skip out on paying us like we know it but everyone still goes to deal with the hamish so we show up and we throw like it's at 40 degrees of rainy and awful it's like five or six days before the world championship like no one wants to be here yeah and there's less than like I do it my hundred bucks I just you know I know you got some junk so I do it uh until like at the end of it we end up tracking him down he's hiding in his trailer and then just hands us like a single stack of cash and tells us to figure it out but he hasn't tracked anyone's score all day hasn't done anything so it wins we just looked at each other it was like everyone feel pretty good that this is how it went and then we split money up and went on our way but we've had stories in the past really they can't find him and they'll see his car just be went out of the parking lot and you don't get your money no people call him up he came to you I'm 200 pounds and he's like I did you a favor lad currency a whole no value in the future anyway wow that is a great argument yeah and then Pete Davidson punched him in the face not Pete Pete David's oh different not but a lot of people like he knows about a lot of yeah yeah never never put those together whatever his nutrition is she probably gets a big sort out and I heard he's packing everything to he's packing so that means the ladies love him I don't know it's not like he got to choose any of that yeah I don't know he's not hideous no I'm sure he has like a thing when you're in the presence of aura yeah like he's definitely you know he's got a thing you know some guys have a thing and girls are most girls are attracted to it but he just has something like that sure he's an aura he's like more specter than man it's like a pre-medic baby boy looks like he's been dead for like six months that's what a bigger woman do you find him attractive I don't really don't she's an art yeah oh yeah right so she's into a different right a different vibe but you're not into rambos though right has faces a little melty right yeah that's true van dam um I thought he was hot when I was younger for sure the splits and everything was horny but like he's a little fruitier than my vibe he's been a creep that's incredible you're saying van dam is gayer than me no I said fruity not homosexual just fruitier fruitier felgin you mean you're a man yeah okay a little bit a lot of damn damn dance that is a weird dance a lot of high-tech every year you're dancing in that is a weird dance but at the same time it's iconic yeah and props for having around the dance floor on live television no oh yeah maybe just got laid a weird way like he couldn't know it's just full rage yeah because he's probably thinking about boner in the dressing room good work probably did he probably did he missed a fence let's just probably smashing some tick pills getting ready for the night all right just ready to go all the time he he allegedly hit on my future wife and her mother at the saddle ranch like the same time yeah like work his way down the lock it was the day that my wife moved to l.a. she was 18 and had just driven in with her mom for Milwaukee and i don't know if he hit on one and then hit on the other or if he propositioned both at the same time things are good going good for you when you think you can do that yeah yeah just hit on a mom daughter combo i've had that you've hit on a mom daughter come after you know me that's a weird three-way man yeah i was young one time i was in a Cadillac and i used to live in Mission Beach and people used to call me FF were you living in the Cadillac no i met a girl on the boardwalk and then we went for a drive and i was in the back with with her and her mom was driving and my other friend was in the front seat and we were drinking a lot and she straddled me in the back of the car wow well her mom was driving legend yeah it was that's a weird how weird because now i'm i don't feel a bit about it no i can't right but when i used to tell that story i used to think i was cool yeah i remember i feel like same i like i think about losing virginity and being like early high school 15 or 16 years old and not thinking that was weird and now at 40 like i'm like what are you doing yeah gross hey i was 11 whoa it's like going for an airy bush nice i remember going whoa because i didn't have anything i'd gotten into porn i was like you were like you guys he shares boyfriend yeah right yeah she got a like a famous rapper guy oh he's like 25 or something it's amber rose's baby daddy uh yeah is that not 21 savage there might be more than one of them you know them that was that was impressive you just is that a guy i'm pretty sure he did date amber rose i've always wanted to do share so i'm impressed about this guy i would be a legendary takedown right i'll examine your efforts wow i mean like yeah not fair enough legendary ground game i'll be kicking down yeah i'm gonna check talk about that like there's a couple that like if we were out somewhere right and like bread pit hit on her yeah go for it yeah yeah katie can do that fine go for it man i'm gonna support you all the way could i do that katie brad pichure so it's a great looking for he's 60 and he looks so good he's 60 it he looks amazing he's just decided to look like the most handsome guy in hollywood for four decades he's almost handsome well right but now he basically looks like Robert Redford a little no he doesn't see whatever when he got old and wrinkly i was always worried that because i'm not his generation of him being hot i was more a generation of first time i saw him was jeremy johnson so he was already pretty wrinkly that's not the first time oh jeremy johnson yeah i'm thinking of yeah but i remember people saying that he was a sex symbol and i was like how really like did he like really hate sunblock because he's still in shape but his face was very old i remember when he was that when he was he was a drill no he was like a chief he was like a military guy and he got put in prison for doing something that was honorable but they charged him anyway and then he was like the leader of all the people in the prison and he had to carry all these rocks and then the guy made him carry all the rocks back after he did it and he took his shirt off and he was pretty jacked but he had long hairs on his neck and stuff like an old person just calling him luke but paul newman now i was like i was like for shush i predicted he was in the army wait it's a legendary movie i believe yeah and a few good rocks it's something about rock it's like rocks or something i don't know land alcatraz he's the creating of alcatraz he's a military guy and he goes to prison in a military prison and the the prison guy that owns the prison and him they butt heads sure quackens carstral bill stories all the time i feel terrible i know it's real you guys it's a real last castle yes well yes that it's like a nice yeah oh he's way out of his prime yeah but he was still jacked with an old head did steven queen die did he did he and i said it the other one but oh no that's all janitor McQueen oh right different cousins sure uh yeah steven queen is no longer with us but he did he die young yes okay i was wondering why he was the right guy about him i told him i told him not many two he done a race car big time race car good work i got rules he's on team and stuff he was a champion yeah that guy seemed to be having a pretty good rip in life you think he's cool because he died i think he was gonna do something uncool and he wouldn't be known to so cool now like james dean you always have to ask that question james dean be like eating wearing crocs right well it just depends like look at their contemporaries and see what like do you think jennie klson right like jimie hendrix is is dead um but like do you think the rolling stones embarrass themselves do you think led's up when embarrass themselves do you think the beetles did well then there's no reason to think there's a handful that have been able to pull it off forever you know who was going to be a clown and it's with all due respect good that he's dead is uh jimarison he was halfway to clean down with the hype yeah he's gonna be like 400 pounds he was gonna be like david krosby with way worse poetry and he was gonna walk around with like a whole cheeseburger second he's beard oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he picked the right time to take a bath in paris meatloaf dog right meatloaf did recently he texted me about me he loved this he was great care of himself he didn't take great care of himself well i didn't clean it up in the later years but too late yep you know what i mean he was pretty early for a long time any party while he was used he made bought himself five or six or ten years don't get me wrong but like they ain't the same yep but he was great and he never was on cool what i know totally what incredible music like that weird rock opera yeah high concept they still the number one selling album in the history of aschreo yeah they love that out of hell man it's such an interesting thing about him all right we really love that motorcycle man's man but with the heart of gold underneath at all yeah speaking of heart somebody I lived without a heart for a number of years it's not amazing what i how they made some contraption oh yeah the fake one you know no but it's not like uh it's like sits on a table next to this whole other thing that the the x-rays actually really weird because he's got it looks like he has a couple of hand grenades inside of him so this dude he was sick with something unrelated and his heart was gonna go out because the disease was attacking his heart and there's a team of scientists who developed this thing and they'd use it on like 50 or 60 animals so they were kind of ready for somebody who had nothing to lose and this guy had nothing to lose and he ended up dying because of the disease several years later but he was the first person in recorded history is basically a zombie he had no heart he didn't have a pulse the way that it changed and have a pulse right oh really because of like ice maker but let's just jump into the pulse yeah the blood circulated but it wasn't the pulse thing okay so he literally was an alive dude yeah wasn't doing a lot there all right now he didn't look like he was gonna be uh taking you down to the place he wasn't highly active man he got a haircut that looks like he had an artificial head yeah no that whole thing there's a guy the whole thing there's a guy don't trust that robot at all yeah fake heart i know a guy in the like fitness space uh like ct Fletcher this guy in his 50s uh dude from Compton red dude um he's got a fake heart he had a whole heart transplant yeah that's wild to me is he with white still yeah wait fake heart somebody else is not like about hot rock crazy no no like has he so he ended up getting a heart transplant and got like this asian woman's heart i think as he found out yeah and he said like he's had really strange dreams and a lot of stuff like yeah i don't know man look i'm like i don't know enough to tell him his dreams or like more feminine feeling or any of this type of intuition or something yeah something in the in the coop space but it works so good that he can lift weights is he jack still uh i think he's residually jacked how's it clit his clit hangs several inches is that's a fake i've got uh baby girls stem cells injected into me baby girl stem cells yeah because they give you the when you get the stem cells in columbia or accelerate uh they show you the family and the the family's grandparents like the bloodline to see if there's no disease and then they're like you know your umbilical cord came from a little baby girl whoa right on she wasn't using it no no she left it yo how was the stem cells to the face that's one of the gnarliest things i've ever seen yeah it's brutal that was you look so not ready i don't know you just get no sure like i don't know this like i remember thinking get into the mindset i'm like mindset of what i didn't even understand what's happening yo and she just she's going for it not she attacked you in a way that like i want to get away from my phone do you want to take a break because some people take breaks i heard that's what she said but i was like just keep just i want i don't want to wait 20 minutes and then face it again like seven more times just do it how has it been like that's not one of those things i've i've gone to do yet like um any of the injectable stem cells i've got some during surgeries before but i haven't ever gone to do like what they do at bile accelerator i swear by really hell yeah i could escape i could do everything and you know i did change after helion with no change of diet no change of hundred percent from where were you scale of zero to ten before i mean if i hit my knee hard it would probably come off mmm and now not too much i'm not so the next day after i hit it oh i can feel it more stable in my knee because it used to wobble in the gap like my shin would wobble inside my knee especially the front one yeah that's a weird thing that i understand it was like it was like make my balance hard you know because by that would be like off kind of all the time so now it's attached like sitting in the right spot doesn't wobble so like kicking there's the time there where if i kick the heavy bag hard it would tear whatever was torn in my knee and it would re-enter it and like swell up and be out of commission for a while but now there's you know i'm a bit something like i won't open up a bit if i'm gonna kick and stuff but it's kind of normal well yeah like i kind of don't have any problems yeah more issue i have now is my hip i think at some point i gotta get the hip sorted out well hip replacement is really good at it yeah yeah they're really everybody's talking about how they're like within a month they're running and kicking and i'm jumping power was kicking like a couple weeks after a full hip replacement i'm fully just scared of it being asked to run out of fight after it to me like ACLs was to be a pretty easy run but you've had a knee replacement now yeah that's the hot that's way worse than a hip replacement i mean i'm more concerned that it doesn't go well because because you need and go well okay like i've got to be prepared to go into that and make a net decision and Tony was worried about his second leg surgery because he did all the things that he was supposed to do and it was a surgeon it was like we're gonna get it all going and it didn't he was even again he was like i don't even go hyperbatic chamber anyone i'm like why not he's like because i did that every day and my leg wasn't attached and i see your angle but i don't think that the hyperbatic chamber made your leg detach i think it's just one of those things where it happens man i mean the real answer is the doctor said you could put any weight on it as if you could take the pain you can put the weight on it and didn't realize who he was telling that to when scabelling like a week later and he says he knows the bit where he thinks he made it come off too so he ended up so he had the second surgery yeah how's that now good sweet two news everything MRI is still on he said that uh he's told me yesterday that just skating he skated on the ground in the backyard the other day and said that the whole seven months that he was trying to rehab that leg he couldn't put his weight was always on the back foot and he's already he said he's already evenly putting weight and it is no pain and it's sturdy he's like he feels like he's gonna be back and doing some real stuff again and i i mean you can't i mean you love it that much oh you're gonna be good at it again yeah kevin star 56 or something and he just did a front side and he broke his femur four months ago clean across the hip right up and he's all right so it's just the will you know and kevin is not a gym crossfit he didn't do yoga he probably didn't he rehabbed the most minimum front side input i'm a real baby with mine i couldn't even get back to my sport uh i mean you can't casually do the hanland games correct now right so you know i go scapolling i go compete i go casually scapolling so it's different yeah i'm enjoying more casual athletics and uh started sparring boxing yeah as casual athletics as i follow that sentence up yeah that makes sense um that's not but it makes sense it's fun i got a good group of rating uh in st luice that i've been read to train with they've got a couple guys that you have any concussions from childhood at hanland games or anything can't imagine i did right so i think it's a i feel like i feel like it's a certain amount a person can take but if you're gonna do it for 10 years then and you're doing it for fun i would hold off on sparring right now i don't know these by with people that are really good that's what it's been so far there's so much better than me okay and i i do a pretty good job of i don't have an ego with it yeah i want to learn so it's way more timing sparring hands are a bit different story entirely yeah i thought you were talking about you and friends not having a crack each other in the head and that's like no i'm not interested yeah i was recently convinced the retire oh tony hawk and andra huberman got into me and he's an interesting guy man yeah but he's also an interesting guy that's done a lot of research more than anybody all ever me in my life on your brain yeah and he was like i've seen what you've done i've seen the damage you've taken i don't think it's a good idea for you to do it again but one of the shuttowers i feel good about it as one of those things where it'd be like i mean i could have done so much more no i couldn't know as bad as much as i could do yeah there's a lot of other things to try yeah and i remember him too you know yeah i gotta get cute that when i watch movies i haven't that i've seen that i'm rewatching it and i don't remember it that's cute though i said bonus but there's a certain matter brain damage where i'll probably get sad you know it has it has happened anywhere a group of people like you don't remember me and then someone else is like you don't remember me and it was in a short amount of time and like called katie i was like kind of worried some of those you just got to say you know you got to let go of the small memories to make room for the big one that's what i did because these people were like i didn't have time to remember you there was nothing that happened yeah you mean tons of people yeah yeah yeah sometimes you have brain damage sometimes people are just really really really boring there is a lot of truth to that right yeah i can't think of anything i would find more offensive to like i don't want to be boring yeah well you know boring life sounds rough yeah well you're doing a lot and people that want to watch you and get inspired so that they can make their lives more interesting where do they go go to nutdegia.com we got links to everything there not uh indy-y life is the mentorship group and on youtube it's met and so and wolf knives merch will come out when hopefully in fiverr march there you go fiverr very much leave me alone all right there it is it's gonna be very exciting thanks for being on the show dude i appreciate it cheers man it's good to have you on everybody check us 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