Maya Rudolph (Live)

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How exciting is that Maya? That was exciting. But yes, yes. And I have my lip balm and my laptop and my glasses. So excited.

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All right. Now I'm comfortable sitting down. Okay, we are very excited to introduce our guest who's going to be talking to us about Maya and giving me a question to ask Maya. We always like to do that in good hang to talk to somebody who knows our guests really well. We're thrilled to have this person joining us tonight.

He is an incredible actor, stand up and sweet, tender, hearted person. And he plays Maya's cousin, Howard, on the show Loot. Give it up for Ron. Which is everybody, Ron. Hi.

Hi. Now people should know we were trying to keep you a secret, but then you and Maya just saw each other backstage. You didn't do a good job at all. Nope. It felt like no one even tried to keep us apart.

No, all we literally needed to do was close your door. Yeah. And we forgot to do that. And I think Maya said that she just went, hey, Ron, what are you doing here? Like you live here.

Yeah, sometimes I just pop up places. Thank you so much for coming. Let's take a water brain. It's so nice to be here. And I have some lip balm if you know.

So many people here. Really nice. Very exciting, very nice. Don't they know podcast or free? They are severely overpaying.

That's a good point. I think it's an excellent point. Yeah, you can go home and listen to this for free. But they don't seem like they make good financial decisions. They woo for PayPal.

Yeah. Ron, are you a California kid? I was actually born in Los Angeles in Gardena. What's it like being a California kid? I mean, I'm just proud to be from here, especially this year with the wildfires and everything.

I feel like you get just a sense of community and loyalty to the place. I moved around a bunch. I live in Chicago. I live in Oregon. So I kind of just learned to just carry my home and my space with me.

I like to ask people when they've moved around a lot, what's the coldest you've ever been? Definitely. It's outside of Chicago. It's shoveling snow in the winter. It's terrible.

And what's the hottest you've ever been? Mmm. Probably when I was like 212 pounds. Real cut. Just every day.

Yeah. You tour a lot. What's your tour? What do you like to do on tour? What's your...

How do you prepare for your show and what do you do after? Thank you for asking. No one asked me that. I'm really fascinated by a person on the road. It's hard work.

You guys, you get paid away from home. When you first start, sometimes a hotel is much better than my home. But as the years have progressed, that has switched. And I always want to be home. And so I try to make the road as much like home as possible.

I travel with my best friend Gabe Binger. He's a great comedian. He's here with me tonight. We bring our video games with us all the time. And I usually do a Pilates class wherever I go.

Nice. Yeah. What video game do you play when you're on the road? Usually I love them. I love them.

Anything you got, I will play. It'd be good. And Pilates, which I enjoyed doing. What do you like about Pilates? I like that it's so difficult. I like that I could be like how am I sweating so much while exclusively laying down?

Oh, this is a good audience with this joke. Yeah, this is a Pilates audience. Are you kidding me? The audience like a group. Everybody gets a reformer on the way out.

Do you bring anything with you on the road? You know how like people bring a pillowcase or a carbon monoxide detector? No, I just usually bring like the same pair of pajamas that I want to wear. I bring my steam deck, which is like my little video game thing But like it makes me feel like I'm at home and then but that's really it I think that in the Pilates keep me feeling like I'm focused at home because with the traveling I always feel stiff and just kind of off-balance and once I feel like I landed a place and I sweat in a place I feel more grounded. Yeah, I hear you and last question. Are you a person that likes to talk to people on the plane?

No, not at all. Not at all. I got my headphones on all the time. It's actually I know it's probably okay to be namedroppy here But it's how Bill Hader and I connected one time we were working on a movie together and we were both on a plane and we saw each other And so what we were like separated by I also the lady I was like do you want to sit with your friends so you guys could talk and we both looked up and immediately were like no I respect you Now you and Maya have a real chemistry on your show and I know you also have a real friendship in life Can you tell me where you first met was it working together on loot or do you mean?

Yeah, I met her first you know obviously been a big big fan of hers for a long time similar to you as well, you know So I just remember watching her on Saturday night live I don't remember how many times I would rewind and re-wine the scene of her just shit in the industry on Bridesmaids, you know like to me that was like it's a beautiful It's the highest form of art you could ever find And so I've always been such a such a big fan and then when the loot came up as an opportunity I was actually in the process of pitching my own show and was seeing if that was gonna go across the lines Why I originally turned down the audition and then Maya sent me a nice email Which was just more like hey, I know you probably think this is just like some random call and you just a month of 20 30 people over but I like your work. I'm a fan of your work I know who you are I just wanted to just send you a quick email to see if you would reconsider into this audition and Just getting a direct email from her like that. I was like oh, I should probably do this And then luckily in the next two weeks they passed on my show so I was like I really need to do this

And what is it like to work with her? It's amazing. It is like I Told her in person and nice to tell her on this podcast. I'm a big big comedy fan I have been my whole life one of my favorite shows is I love Lucy big fan of just loose Ball in general and I always say that working where her to me must feel like it was like to be like William Frawley and to be Vivian Fans working with loose So ball like to see the level of dedication and the level of skill and the craftsmanship that she can do in multiple areas That she's can be funny that she's a great singer a great dancer that she can be a dramatic actor when she wants to be To have that full skill set and to put that on display while still being a kind person It's something that I don't see often so to me I'm like this is the like I'm in the presence of a true like legend So it's a and but she never makes you feel separate You know she never makes you feel like you don't belong or you're smaller than you know sometimes you'll be like She'll turn to me she's like is this funny and I'm like what are you asking me?

If you say it probably will be I mean I don't usually talk behind the guest back when they're offstage right there But I want to what I want to talk about tonight is that Maya is like a natural Like she's like one of a kind natural like she's she's one of those people to me That feels like is was born to do what she's doing like it's almost like she makes she makes it looks so easy when she's doing stuff It's because she's so naturally good at it. I think yeah, and um, you know I think they should remake the natural and I should put Maya in there and she's born to do it You know, she's real Hollywood royalty and a lot of times people look at that And they just think about like nepotism or people who don't do anything But in like it is the opposite where it's like she's been born into this world And she's been at the lifetime crafting these like abilities and it shows and everything that she does and then the fact that she still is Spent so much time with her family and so much time Balancing everything that's to me is the wildest part is like to accomplish so many things and to still be driven to get up

And to come do this show and still spend time with your family like that I mean, I know it's hard for me And I just you know I'm doing stand-up four days a week So to do all of that she does is amazing to me. Yeah, yeah women are amazing And you too, thank you. So what what question do you have for Maya? What do you think we should ask her today? I have three questions. Okay, I need a pen. There you go. Okay, okay, I'll remember you'll be fine

One is we'll come in back because I need a job Great so if you could confirm that on to a microphone great is Luke coming back. That will be helpful Number two is one that I really do wonder personally But I don't know if she'd want to answer and pot so I'm just gonna ask and she doesn't have to answer But just when the time that she spent on Saturday night life playing Kamala Harris to me is the thing that I'd be very interested to know more about to to go through all of that to like live in her skin while she's going through the most like Precious rise time in her life that happens not turn out the way that she nor me or most of us Would have preferred I just wanted to know like what that would feel like I imagine there just be a lot of symbiotic pain from doing that But maybe she don't want to answer that so My third one would just be about how does she choose like what projects are worth Spending time away from her family what makes her choose the thing that like is it like about providing more for her family?

Or just something that she finds fun for herself or challenging for herself Just because again like I have my son and I'm on the road four days a week and then I immediately come back home to my son And it's like a balance because but I don't know how to do it. I want to know how to do it Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean me too. We all want to know how to do it. We're all hanging on by a thread Yeah, yeah, that's the secret. Yeah, nobody knows that's the secret nobody knows how to do it But if you have a microphone, they'll go maybe they know yeah, yeah, I'm gonna sell a course Okay, so just cuz I'm a Minopausal so you've got is Luke coming back Mm-hmm Kamala, how do you do it babe? Yeah, how do you do it right on those are awesome questions? Thank you Ron punches

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C amh dot CA slash good hang I don't know if you saw the back of Ron shirt, but it said I only want to work with friends. What a great shirt Wow Ron, thank you so much. That was a pleasure. I could have talked to you all evening, but it's literally already 833 horrifying Okay, very excited to introduce our guests this evening. Um, you know her from a backup singer for the rentals She was um was a crossroads coolest student California's own biggest comedy hit MVP of SNL till the end of time ladies and gentlemen give it up for my Rudolph Nice crowd so many nice people nice people you can tell they're nice people. I can I can feel it

I can smell it um my we're gonna do a little mic check, okay, and uh, let's we're using the national Okay, little mic check. I'm not kidding. I want someone asked me to do that again We'll be fine. I someone did say for the 50th. Hey, we want you to say open the show with the national anthem No, okay, and then it just went away 11 fine Oh, you want me to do it?

I haven't I haven't even I don't really like think I've ever done it since then It's the faces yeah, it's the faces and it's the amount of time it takes You know what talk about that for a second. Yeah, talk about how that came to be you singing the national anthem there was a character My character Pamela Bell, let's be clear. Um, you know what I rarely all the time that we were at SNL I rarely had good ideas You know when you have an idea and you're like this is gonna be fun to do or maybe I maybe I should be more clear I always have ideas for characters, but I never really had Clear ideas for sketches and this one was like beginning middle and end and it's because in the writers room on nine

at some point someone was watching I think it was a gree-right night and American Idol was on and they do these wrap-ups and I think it was like base I don't know world I don't know something with a baseball and um they had people singing take me out to the ballgame and this one girl said By me some e-nuts and Apple Jacks. I was like here we go He nuts and Apple Jacks. Oh god. Damn, but it was honestly like I know Enuts and Apple Jacks and herbal jerks. I just it was such a moment to be I've never been like other than when we did Bronx Beat That was the only other time where I've like done something that wasn't completely on the cards Yeah, cuz Bronx beats the only time I really feel like we were I ever did anything loose. Yeah. Yeah, that's what she said

Maya, I don't know if you heard Ron talking and I talking about you Until I walked in the room when he was sitting there literally all we needed to do was Couldn't get that done. I was like hey Ron Here I thought he was hanging out. He lives here at the Fonda you have you have you performed here or been here? I've been here. I was here recently for the East show. Oh

Yeah, oh Cameron winter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's here. Oh, I can't run

Was that you cool when you were so cool. I did bring your plugs. Yeah, cuz I'm 53, but That was a huge laugh But I I love them a lot and it was really hard to make myself go out. I know what time did you have to go out? I don't know. I don't know. You don't you really don't was it 10 p.m. Who knows?

What time? And a candle and you're like oh my night count on Jacob Molly is that you I hear your chain. Oh, I'm at a Gisha. It was very late But it was totally worth it because they're so good and they're so exciting And as you know, I get really grumpy when music is bad and they're so good and they're so talented at making music and writing music Performing music that I was happy to leave my house. Oh, that's great I mean, it is hard to leave your house It's hard to go out and I appreciate that you're here here Yes, and I really do and I want to talk to you about music because And your relationship to it and I want to start With the fact that you are as I asked Ron. He's a California boy

You're a California girl and we had an we had a great interview with the great Jack Black who said that you were the coolest person He knew in high school. He said yes. Do you not listen to my podcast? I Do but I didn't listen to his episode yet. Yes, we've glazed you so hard What It's funny I almost said his name when we were talking about the National Anthem because when I was singing it on First of all, there's so much to talk about when it comes to Jack because I've known him since I was 14 I met him in school and he changed my life For the better and you know when you find people and you both speak the same language and he was new He was a couple years older and he had transferred to the school and I think my drama teacher was like you guys should hang out He was he coached me in an improv competition Me and a couple girlfriends and we just like spoke music the same way right away

We both like had a love for Bobby McFaren and I don't I didn't know any 14 year olds that liked Bobby McFaren But when I was doing the national anthem especially like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I always think about Jack He brought me to my first Groundlings Joe when I was a kid and showed me this whole world I didn't even imagine I'd end up being there and that would lead me to you really honestly I mean, he changed my life, but there's just so few people that you feel so lucky when you have those moments where you had no idea you were gonna meet someone that was gonna be such a positive influence on your life.

And he's such a great goof. Did you guys ever kiss? No. I wanted to. There's still time.

I don't have to. I wonder if we did maybe in a short film. Well, I played as girlfriend. And like Brett Morgan, who ended up becoming an incredible documentary filmmaker, he went to our school. I know everyone's like, in this school.

It was such a fucking great creative cool school. It was so punk and weird and artistic. And I took film classes and improv, Jack got me into the improv class early when I was an eighth grader, supposed to be a ninth. And he got me in. He's great.

You're like, hey, you guys. I got something in. And you're like improvising. You're like, honey, I'm home for work. With your little briefcase.

Isn't candy stupid? I'm a toy prank. Oh boy. I don't remember. But you guys were over at it.

Okay. And you also went to school with Gwyneth. Yes, elementary school. Elementary school with Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah.

We did. We did. We did. That's what I thought. Yeah.

We went to St. Augustine together, which was the elementary of crossroads before crossroads really had an elementary. It was in this church called St. Augustine by the sea. And yeah.

And we were very close. And we really, our dads went to college together. So we had kind of like a family bond. And then after 6th grade, she went to New York. And do you remember your first time in that time period with your wonderful artistic beautifully groovy parents?

Do you remember when you first saw SNL? I really do remember sneaking into my parents' room and faking like a stomach acre or just like I can't go to. I can't sleep or something. That's how I talk to those kids. I can't sleep.

And my parents were young. I mean, they were probably in their 20s. And they were watching the show. And I think I saw the land shark is what I remember. But those of you, Chevy Chase Paltrow.

Yeah. Man named Chevy Chase. Yeah. And he was on up to you. And a shark would come in.

Yeah. Yeah. And I was in the first year improv sketch comedy theater who was in your freshman class. Who were you with at the time? I had the most unbelievable group of people.

So our beloved dear friend Emily Spiby, who we wrote with for many, many years at SNL, I met Emily there. My friend Nat Faxon, who's on loot. My friend Jim Rash. Cheryl Hines, Melissa McCarthy, Ben Falcone. Oh my god, am I forgetting?

We're two in here. Will Forte? We're in black. Will was in our group. Who else?

Shit. This is going to sound really bad when I can't remember people's hands. That's perfect. Yeah, that's great. Rachel Harris.

Oh my god, I'm still talking. We had an unbelievable group of people. And what did you like now with a lot of perspective? Right? What was the biggest takeaway, the best thing about being in that space, making that kind of art at that time?

Absolutely knowing that I listened to myself and found my people and that I liked. And you've said this about me and I know it to be true, especially because you're so good at reading people. I like to be with my friends and have fun. And I know that sounds stupid, but it's such a great way to do improv and sketch. I like to come in the room when people are hanging.

When there's a group of people that I really like, it makes me so happy. And then it makes me feel like I'm actually funny or funny or it fuels me. I like to be in the mix of it. Yeah, Maya, if I may speak for you, Maya, and about you, the word fun feels like it's like it feels like not a complex word, but it is because it's really about this idea of a shared communal sense of energy. And you love that.

And I will say, I said to Ron, I think you're one of the most naturally gifted performers I've ever met. You're the most naturally best person at SNL that's ever been on the show. It's true, babe. You have to have a lot of skills to be on that show. You've got to have a lot of skills to pay the bills on that show.

And one of the things that you do that is so important in live television, especially is we are never nervous when Maya is performing. We're never worried about you when our mirror neurons aren't firing, that you're like, because when you perform, you're having a lot of fun. It's almost like you're the most relaxed and the least nervous, or at least it seems that way. So is that not true? I definitely get nervous, but I think it's interesting how I get nervous in that.

I realize it coming back to SNL during COVID, the first time I came to play Comela, which was, which worked the first time. Oh, brother. Oh, brother. Oh, brother. I lost my train of hub.

What were we talking about? Nervous. How are you like when you're nervous? My nerves are different when I'm there specifically because I want to be there, and I like how present. It is, and I do get an adrenaline rush from being in that room and knowing that it's happening in that very moment and the history of the work, all of it.

And over the years, knowing so many of the people, so many of the crew in that room, but my armpits sweat is like how I know my body's reacting. I don't tremble. I do get nervous about fucking up or stumbling words, and that has happened. But my only view is when you look at whoever you're with and maybe sometimes being like, which is like the joy of the electricity of that. But even how you know how there's moments where you really, you're like, I can't wait to say this line.

And even back to the National Anthem, there was one line that I used to say, and it would tickle Keenan, and I was singing it kind of like Whitney Houston, and instead of saying like, gave proof to the night, I was saying like, give a little bit of proof. And every time I sang it, he would like, and I love that he was tickled by it, and I was so excited to do it that I didn't do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And those little slip ups, even one of the most recent, I can't remember which one it was, but one of the most recent comments we did, I stumble. You know, you just stumble. Sometimes you're trying. You're adrenaline gets you off the sea. Yeah.

And then Sunday morning, you're like, oh, God, you just hear it again and again, and you can't fix it. But no one ever knows. No one knows. No one knows. No one knows.

Nobody cares. I mean, no one's paying attention to anything except themselves. And I mean, it's almost quarter to nine. I know. We're almost in bed.

I think it's ridiculous. I agree. So you came into SNL for like the final three shows. Oh, of the 25th season. Yeah.

So you came in at the very end. Is that weird? Yeah. What was your audition like? And what do you remember of your audition?

I didn't audition. Itch, that's right? Shit. I knew it. I don't love my water.

Oh, my God, I spilled my water in my laptop. Oh, my God. Guys, we're going to get electrocuted. I don't love that I did an audition, but I said to Lauren, very recently, if I had auditioned, I probably wouldn't have been on the show. I didn't have a very good audition ready to go.

Do you have any? Do you have any? These are the Seth Meyers Good Hanged Tissues. The Seth Meyers Memorial Tissues when I made him cry. Really?

You think you would have blown it if you auditioned? Yeah, I did. I had never. You don't need those questions. No.

You know how to clean a table, don't you? I mean, this is... Do you like cleaning tables? I do. I like a nice smelling spray.

Do you use Windex? You know what? I don't. Do you love Windex? You fucking love Windex, don't you?

I know. And all the new stuff that doesn't have the chemicals in it. I like the stuff that doesn't have the chemicals in it. No, you're so California. I'm fucking California.

I know. Well, that was the thing. When I arrived to SNL, there was East Coast, West Coast people. East Coast was like... Hey.

You from the groundlings? Cool. Well, that... When I arrived, you had already been there, but I didn't know the time for only three shows. But that's not crazy.

So what was it like to come at the end of a season? It was very strange, and it was a trial period. I had sent some VHS tape of some of my sketches to Lorne. Directly to a house. Directly to Lorne's house.

And I was like, did you watch? You're like, I'm by Park Avenue. It was like a trial period, trial, I heard. They came to the groundlings. I believe it was Tina, and perhaps make Shoemaker and...

I don't remember, probably Steve Figgins, who had seen me there before, who I credit, giving me my job, Amen Hallelujah, changed my life forever. Do you remember where you were when you got the call that you were going to be on the show? I was at my house. I used to live near Larchmont Village. We're around the corner from the yoga place in the Larchmont wine and spirits.

Yeah. Great sandwiches, am I right? When I was pregnant with my oldest daughter, I used to know that yoga place just so I could eat the sandwiches after. They're really good. Have you ever had them?

I'm going to get you one. I have it. I would love one. Although, sandwiches... You're not like sandwiches?

I don't really need to run it out. I'm not going to run it out. Not as a restrictive thing. I'm just like, in general, I'm like... It's a lot of work.

I'm like, oh, God, this sandwich. How are we going to get through this? How are we going to do this? You talk to it? You negotiate.

But you know what I do love? I love a fake belt. Yeah, you do. Sorry, we can cut this part out. Can we cut things out?

Probably not. Look at this belt sandwich. I love it. This is a fake tomato. I want you to do ASMR.

Take onion. Okay. You know you're in California, because we've got an avocado coming over here. Sorry, it's only six more things. Cheese and bread.

Okay. I love you. I love that. Yeah. Me too.

I like pretend food. I love pretend food. I love pretend food. Okay. What were we talking about?

Okay, it doesn't matter. We were talking about coming. We got the SNL call. I came out and I had nowhere to live. I was in a Sunday company at the Groundlings and I think I had to come out there in the next week or two or something.

So I lived at the Palace Hotel down the street and I think I, you know, pitched... Oh, I came on a Tuesday because there was no... There was no pitch on Monday for some reason and I didn't know anybody. I knew Chris Parnell a little and I said, what do we do to him? And he said, we write and I said, two o'clock in the morning and then all the doors started closing.

And I was like... And I was sharing an office with another temporary actor or whatever you would call us there, I guess. Were we featured? I don't even know. Named Zac Galifianakis.

Not wild. And then we'd walk back to the palace and I was like, what are we doing here? I was like, I don't know. Yeah, we've talked about it before. There wasn't a lot of onboarding.

There was no like, no one told you. I'm a maker did. I will say when you and Seth started the following. I saw him making an extreme. I watched the process of him onboarding you and Seth in a way that made me so proud and so happy that people were given a chance to understand the mechanics of how a show like that works.

It was really... And it helped educate me. I still felt so new and I didn't know what I was doing. And it's one of those things where you don't want to tell people like, I've never been swimming, but I'm going to try. I didn't want to say like, yeah, I've never been swimming before, but I just tried.

But you didn't want to say how scared you were. No, fake it to you, make it. We did a lot of faking it. And we did a lot of making it. We did a lot of making it.

We did a lot of making it. We did. And so Maya and I were... My office was across the hall from you and Emily Spivey and Maya and Emily had a great office. It had a window and it looked out over the Empire State Building.

And this is in the 2000s so you could fully open the window. No bars, nothing. And lean out and smoke a cigarette. Seventeenth floor, 17th floor. And when we were writing on Tuesday nights, we could tell it was time to go home because we could hear people lining up for the Today Show outside and look down below.

And we used to get visitors from a friend who would hang out of the window. He was made of cardboard. Harper Steel. Harper Steel used to write her on SNL. She used to draw a picture of a weird creepy...

Creepy dude. Creepy dude and stick it out the window into our window. That's right. And then we'd go, did this! And then we'd run over into you and just be like holding her window.

Her office would be freezing cold. But also I have memories, lots of tears. Like laughter and tears in that office. I have a lot of memories of your office. Our office was...

I thought you were one of the first people that really made me feel good about coming in and recognizing it as a safe space. You come in, you crack your back. You're a little backy crackies. And sometimes you'd lay on the floor and it was just a place for us to say, this is really hard. Or I'm really sad.

Or I'm stressed out or this fucking sucks. Or whatever it was, it was such a safe space. And I mean, I could spend so... As you know, I could spend so much time talking about how fortunate I feel about being there with the company that I was with. And I don't know how the stars aligned in that way, but I think because we had so many of us that even though we didn't grow up in the same town and go to the same schools, we kind of had a similar...

I don't know, life ethic. And I would say it's like, well, we were like good daughters, good students. What are you talking about this on Kylie? Yes. Yes.

Great podcast. Love her. And you made such a good point about that Maya. You were saying, like, why all the women at the time at SNL, Rachel, and Tina, and Anna, and Kristen, we all felt like we were different certainly, but we had some kind of similar shared sensibility. A common thread.

And I also feel like, in those days, even at the groundlings now, I think you have to wait a long time to get to the next level. We were just kind of walking right in. We had something in common that we just knew was our thing. And I can't even, I can't describe it, but it was that generation, that time, we had the same shows growing up, we had the same influences, and I don't know, for me, it was like my older brother was the funniest person I knew. And so I was trying to emulate people that I looked up to, like my heroes.

That's why I wanted to be funny. I wanted to be funny because he and his friends were so funny. What were they listening to? Who were they? My brother was really into like Parliament and Funkadelic, which has such a huge sense of humor.

I mean, it's just like the funkiest funk. Funkity funk funk funk funk. The mothership connection and motor booty affairs, one of the albums and the album artwork is insane. George Clinton is just like a freak and clearly has such an amazing sense of humor. My brother and I used to watch The Gong Show and Make Me Laugh.

Did you ever watch Make Me Laugh? Yes. And we used to play Make Me Laugh at In Our House all the time. Make Me Laugh was basically, it was just a guest was sitting in a chair. And then I guess it was stand-ups or comedians were supposed to make them laugh.

Like 60 seconds on the clock and the person had to like not break. That was it. And there were a lot of young comics that started. They were like, could it have been Gallagher? Oh, I'm sure.

Was Gallagher there maybe? And like, I don't know. I was doing so much acid then I don't remember anything. But I have a feeling if we looked back we probably recognize a lot of people. Same with The Gong Show for sure.

Yeah. Do you, one thing I wanted to bring up in that office was there was a cleaning lady. Rose. Rose that worked on the 17th floor. Teeny tiny lady.

Very teeny. And she had been there for a very long time. She had seen some shit. Yeah. And there was a moment when...

Would you tell the moment when we were in that office and Rosa came in? I think it was probably usually if we were in that office during the day, because we were there so much at night, you know, they weren't keeping regular office hours. So there weren't great times for people to come in and change the trash cans out and stuff. And so it was probably a read-through day, maybe like a Wednesday. And we were in there waiting for a table read to start and someone was definitely crying.

I think Emily might have been crying because her desk in that office was close to the door and so she had her back to the door. And she was talking to us about something that was really hard. And we were also sleep deprived. And I just remember Rosa coming in. And she didn't speak very much English.

But she saw what she always saw, which she came in and she saw a few of us just sitting around talking to each other deep in conversation. Emily was crying and she put her hand on Emily's shoulder and she goes, oh, don't cry sexy. Do you remember that? I love it so much. It was like it was yesterday.

Don't cry sexy. I highly recommend you say that to your friend when they're sad. It's really... It's a little... Don't cry sexy.

Do you want to tell everyone the first time you met Barack Obama and who you were dressed as? I love to. The first time I met Barack Obama when he was running for office, I was dressed as Shirley McLean. And then the second time you saw him you were dressed as... Barack Obama.

Yeah. It was a sketch that you and Darryl were Hillary and Bill Clinton at a Halloween party. And I remember Barack was new on the scene. Look and smooth. And at that time I think Barack Obama masks were popular.

It was like the new candidate. So the joke was going to be that I come in like, wah, wah, I'm Barack Obama. And then he taps him on the shoulder with his mask and takes him out of his mouth and goes, oh my God, it's the real Barack Obama. So we did that at dress. And that was it.

Yeah, he didn't do it at it. We did not do it at air. Thank God. Why? What do we know why?

I do. I mean, I did not have a take on Barack Obama at all. I did not... Well, you know, I just remember you were a teeny-tocky teeny teeny. He's a very tall man.

Very tall man. It's very fun and stressful to be dressed exactly like the person you're standing next to. It is so much fun. I remember the first time we saw each other was when we were about to walk out on stage. So at Dresserhurst, there was like a little flag there and Thor that's supposed to open.

And I'm there waiting in my little Brooks Brothers suit. And I think we like bound my boobs. And I had, I used to play Scotland and thread my Scotland wig on. And I was standing there. And then...

People thought, oh my, I have the cutest little, tiniest little legs from knee down. Just the knee down. Knee down is like a little teeny-tiny toothpick. Look at those little legs from knee down. So cute.

Stretch. Stretch. See, teeny-tiny. Teeny-tiny. Just from the knee down.

They're like breakable, I think. I know, they're so little. So you had your little suit on. My little suit on. And it was teeny-tiny and then he came over.

And here's the thing. I didn't, it was written then I didn't have a good impression. I was sort of like, I'm Barack Obama. And so I was standing there and then he came over and I said, well, what do you think? And all he said to me was, I don't wear a three-button suit.

Damn. I still don't know what that means. That's like a guy-knowledge thing. Sounds like alerting to me. Just kidding.

No, I'm not. I will take that. I've gotten too, too, tonight and I'm taking them home with me. I'm taking them into the spank bank tonight. Speaking of spank bank, Ron Fungis.

So great. So spank bankable. So spank bankable. And he has three questions for you. Let me give you the first one, which is speaking of standing next to someone that you play.

You were so incredible when you were playing Kamala Harris and it was such an exciting time to watch you play and for Dana Carvey to be playing. It was just very exciting. The world was watching. There was this feeling of like, here we go again. And that's the SNL at its best, I think, when the world is on the same vibe as the show.

And the political impersonations, I mean, it's one of the best things about our tenure there. Is it more and more women? We got to play because more women were candidates at the time and Kamala was such an incredible, you didn't create take on her and you got to do stuff with her. Ron's question is a good one, which is like, what do you do with all of that energy and feeling when it goes away? She doesn't win.

There was definitely, especially after the first election, I remember even talking about it with our friends saying like, when we heard this was happening again, I'm scared to be hopeful. We were nervous about opening that vulnerability and opening up our hearts to like, could something good happen? Because it's been such a shit storm and a rat fuck of a time. I chose to, especially because she came to the show and that electricity alone just propelled this idea of, I'm going to allow myself to be hopeful.

I hadn't felt hope in a very long time when it came to this subject and she made me feel hopeful. Even if it was a dream, even though I got to be honest, it didn't feel like it. It felt real, but she's really good at what she does and she makes you feel like it's going to be okay. Truly. She was saying things like this country really needs to heal, which I mean now we really need like a fucking, we need some sage.

I mean, it's so bad. What do you do with the feeling? Okay. So, and by the way, I haven't let go of it either is that knowing that I can still be hopeful, even when I'm scared actually was really incredible. I see.

And it was something that I shared with quite a few people the night before the election, after the election is being hopeful is a good thing. Even if you lose, being hopeful is for you. That I was really surprised. I allowed myself to feel because I felt like I felt like, in case I was wondering, yes, I wanted her to win. But what I'm doing, but I, God, you know, listen, just to rewind a little bit, I all the time that we worked at the show, I never expected to play anyone that was running for president ever.

Right. You know, and this was such a natural path, which is the best kind. And especially when you're no longer working on the show and they say, and you hear people saying like, they should call you and then Lauren calls you. It feels very like a vendor's assembly. Yes.

So we need you pulling on your pants, trying on all of your wigs. And it's exciting to be, and I think it helped me filter all my rage, my anxiety, but all of it, it was so great to have something to do. Yeah. And I, I felt like being in service and sometimes I'd say like, I mean, I don't really affect the election. And I was like, why doesn't it?

I like being part of the conversation. Yeah. Especially some of the relief because we needed some relief. And also my, you bring up a beautiful, obvious, but yet not often discussed point, which is looked like the candidate and candidates didn't look like you. Yeah.

And that was for me, like the biggest part of it is that all the years that we worked on the show, it wasn't like, what are they going to call me? I was like, there's not going to be anyone that looks like me running for president in my time at the show. I couldn't imagine and to play someone that looks like me running for president in the United States was a little wild, wild. And I'm like you, I'm like, you know, we're those people that can do anything on the show. We're like, put me in coach.

I want to do that. I want to do that. I want to do things naturally that you don't get the opportunity because you don't resemble the person. And that's just the way that it is. I mean, you have to understand like, and you know this about me, I played so many different kinds of people on the show.

And I think it's because I just believe I can be anyone. And I don't even know like, I don't know. That's more just me and how I've always just been in the world and something that probably came out of me from being a kid. And I don't even know, I don't even know that's allowed anymore, you know, in a lot of ways. But in the best way possible, like it was just more like, I just do what feels like, it's natural or funny or right, which is why it was always fine.

But I don't know how I got so lucky. It was a really exciting thing to be a part of. And then the other part of it was the Dana Carvey part of it. Because I think for us anyway, our generation Dana Carvey was and that was the era that I started watching us now. And they say like, you know, a lot of people, one of the theories is like, your favorite cast is when you were in high school.

And that cast was the dream. I mean, I fell in love with so many of the cast, but him and Mike Myers and Jan Hooks and Phil Hartman, I really didn't realize how much of them that I took with me. And when we came off stage after that first time and Dana did something and he turned on a little sauce like on the air and was being a little goofy and having fun, he said, I just like to do that. I like to make the other person part of it and I like to have fun and it's infectious. And I realized while he was singing that moment is that's what I like to do and I think I got it from him.

I couldn't believe it. Very cool. It was really cool. That's very cool. Yeah.

And we did Bronx Beat with Mike Myers over the SNL 50th because we were huge fans of Linda Richman and Coffee Talk. Oh my. And we did a little, what the kids would call a mashup. Yep. And we smooshed everybody together.

I mean, that was also like the most exciting dream is like SNL 50. I was like, I want to be with my heroes and that was truly the mashup. That was really exciting. That was cool. It really was.

And I'll finish the, I mean, I could talk to you forever about all your characters, you know, you don't have to. Beyonce and Whitney Houston and Donna Tala Versace. I mean, she just did so many, and just so, also so many small dumb people with weird names and just. Those are my favorites. And you and I both share a love for dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

God, I didn't. What was the favorite wig you ever wore? Oh my God. There was a wig that really like, it made the rounds. I think my Lainey wig became a pet psychic became, um, who was the lady?

She was a fake charo. She was a redheaded charo. Yeah. Fiesta Politico. Yeah, it was the Politico.

Um, yeah. And she was like, she kind of had like, Amy, she had your color hair. Yeah. She had like a beautiful red, a vibrant red. Perhaps a little bit of a strawberry blonde.

Um, her name was Rebecca. Her name was Rebecca. Good job, Maya. Thank you. I remembered something.

Um, yes, I remember that because I remember. I'm not going to tell this story. Can you cut it? Can we cut it? Probably not.

Oh, whisper with it. Oh, no. You cannot tell that story. Oh, slowly not. I'm sweating just even though.

I'm sweating. I'm sweating. I'm sweating. You talk to me. Sorry guys.

Can we talk about flirting more? I didn't get to like sleep with anybody at SNL. No, I'm sorry. Poor me. Anybody got to know?

Why didn't I like flirt with you? I'm bad at flirting. I'm bad at it. I agree. Yeah.

I agree. You don't read it. And I'm saying everyone was in love with you. Yes, didn't. I didn't have that experience.

But that's why I'm bringing it up because the way you said it earlier, I knew that's what you were saying. It was like, you didn't know. Dummy? Yeah, I did it. You could have.

You could. You could. You could. You could. You could.

You could. You could. You could. You could. You could.

You could. I did go on one date when I was there with somebody that you know and he took me to see a show called Puppetry of the Penis. Sure. So you can't tell that story either. I should try to ask a question.

And we're and we're and. Okay, I'll just say that in the vein of you being a natural and you being musically gifted in every way. Like, you know, Maya was, you know, we would have musical guests come on and then Maya would sing in a sketch and we'd be like, Maya's better than the. I don't know. Multiply them.

But do you think that there's some rhythm that's important to have for both comedy and music and like what do you think? Why do you think you need both? Like, why do you think they're such like loving cousins? Their cousins. I love this topic so much because I can't really truly define why.

I think there is a language to both of them. I think that there's an incredible inherent ability to them. Some people are just musically gifted. Those people are musically gifted. I know that for a fact.

And that's why you always hear about musicians quoting spinal tap on their tour bus. Like, they want to be in some way musicians want to be comedians and comedians want to be musicians and sometimes they're both. But they live together and it's such a mutual appreciation admiration society. You know, but they're also like an incredible skill and when you're good at it, like you can't fake it. You know, you do great musicians.

I mean, I also like had this funny, I don't know what growing up because I was surrounded by music because my parents were musicians that and we saw a lot of music too or we had friends that were musicians and music was just very, music was very normal in my house. Like, that's the best way to describe it. Like, it was, it was normal and sometimes I'd watch people on stage and I think I'm, that's what I want to do. Like, I could see, like, I could just imagine doing it and then I'd see somebody funny and I was like, that's what I want to do and I'd sort of like vacillate between the two. But here I go.

I can't remember what I was saying. I think, I think it's a fascinating love story, comedy and music and I think that when I think about some of the best people, I do think it's something that you really, when people are naturally good at it, there's nothing better. And I think I like to, we all know Maya, you know, in another life is married to Prince in another life and you're here in the band Princess. You know, yes and Prince, you know, you had the pleasure to meet him and you love him and he, you like to talk about how funny Prince was.

So funny. Oh my God, so funny. Can you tell us a joke that Prince told you or something funny or a funny moment with Prince? He did tell me a joke once but I didn't understand it. You're not supposed to.

I'm thinking about when Fred, Armisen and you would do Beyonce and Prince and Prince would hide the whole time. Oh my God, Prince was always hiding. That was again, like, the best thing about that sketch was the fact that we loved Prince so much that we understood it and so it was just like getting to do it. It wasn't like, isn't this funny? Yeah.

He's short. Yeah. I hate that so much. The same with Beyonce. Like, such reverence for her.

Well, yeah, because the other thing is like, I never, I don't know how you feel about doing impressions of people but I'm not an impressionist and we've talked so many times about different personality. There's so many different types of people that work at Saturday Night Live, specifically some people are impressionists, some people are standups and some people are snatch performers and some impressionists, they can be very specific personalities. I'm not an impressionist, but I feel like when I do an impression it comes from watching someone and I'm watching them because I'm fascinated and interested and excited by them. So I think I'm picking up in the same way that you tell a story and you use the person's voice like, whatever, but I'm joking aside, like when I tell a story I usually imitate the person, but I think it's because I'm interested.

I don't know. I can hear it. I also think I'm a little bit of a parrot to go back to the comedy music thing. Well, that's what I would just say is that I feel like you have a sense of time. Like, you know, when we started with you singing the National Anthem, you took, you take your time with that.

You know when to go fast and be like Whitney talking to Bobby Brown really fast and you know how to go really slow. And it's like, you know the rhythm, the in-between of stuff. Like that's part of the magic of you, I think Maya is the way in which you can change the tempo of the stuff that you do really naturally. And everybody's just like, you have the rhythm that everybody, you are the song everybody wants to hear. It's like, we love your song. Like you are, you have that.

Okay, so we're going to the speed round. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here we go.

Do you like scary movies? Great. Favorite thing to cook? Oh. Pancakes.

Silver Dollar Pancakes. What happened to your finger? I fucking cut it on Thanksgiving making stuffing. Oh. It sliced the shit out of it.

It really hurts. Do you like going to Disneyland? Yep. I do. What's your favorite part?

What kind of Disney adults are you? And by the way, I know you love me because you're asking me this question because you do not like Disneyland. Oopsie. And I was born in Gainesville, Florida even though I've lived here since I was one other than the time that I spent New York. Gainesville got a whoop.

Is somebody from Gainesville? You're from Gainesville? Wow. Wow. I actually have not been back to Gainesville.

Do you want to go with me after the show? My speed round. Okay. Sorry. I probably have ADD, but I was never tested.

It's okay. Our big pants still in. What do you mean by big pants? You tell me. Whatever.

These are big pants. Yeah. Big pants are still in. I go to Maya for all my fashion. I love fashion.

You love fashion. I love it. You love fashion. I've always loved it. Best thing about Hanukkah.

Locos. Locos. This episode is going to be coming out close to Hanukkah. I love sour cream and apple sauce on my lard. And I'm how's your dog Leroy?

He's great. Thank you for asking. What kind of dog is he? He's probably a golden doodle. We were told he was a standard poodle and we rescued him.

For those listening Maya did that in quotes with a bandaged finger. I mean, I think he's a rescue. He was he and his siblings and his mom and dad were all living in a, you know, what do you call it, a crate or whatever. You think he's faking being a rescue? No.

Oh, he shot up at your door. Hey, me and my family are kind of homeless. Kinda homeless. Our car broke down with a lot of money. You got jumper cables?

No, it's just that we got him from a rescue place. There's a lot of rescue places in our house. Another area. Yeah. So I mean, whatever, you pay like, but you gotta pay to make sure they're healthy and whatever. Sure.

It's the best fucking money I've spent. I fucking love that dog. I have another dog named Daisy. And tell us about Daisy. Daisy just got attacked by two coyotes and now she's okay.

She, I know. In your yard? In my yard. Did you see it? No, but my daughter did.

It was really bad. Daisy. Daisy is a fucking warrior. Yeah, Daisy, Daisy survived. Daisy survived.

Those coyotes. Fuck those coyotes. I know. And they're kind of dicks. Like, when I...

Coyotes are dicks. Don't you okay? I feel like when I look at them, they're like, sup. But they do. They just stand there like, sup old lady.

I'm like, look at the fuck out of your man. I mean, I don't know. I mean, right? Coyotes are so rude. Or rude.

And they're really... They're like the lost boys. They're like, they're like the lost boys. So, got any bread? You guys have cereal?

Fuck out of your man. What do you invite to do into my yard? Get out of my yard, dicks. Oh my god, the lost boys. I don't know why that was my reference.

And then the last thing I want to ask you about is... I love fast questions. I'm sorry. I didn't get to miss them. It's fun.

Your astrological sign. Leo. Yeah. And I don't remember my... Yeah, you're Graham.

It's a seven. I've told you so many times. It's so many times I've told you. And you told me that I'm a seven because I don't remember that I'm a seven. Well, it's about fun.

Seven's love to have fun. Uh oh. Let's be clear. I like to have fun with you. There's plenty of people I do not have fun with.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, we have a lot of fun. We have fun. We have fun. We have fun.

And then Ron brought this question up, but I think it's a beautiful... Well, first of all, he'd like to know if loot is coming back. And congratulations on another season. Thank you. It was a fun season.

And I love working with Ron so much. And I love that he wants to come back to his job. Isn't that a nice thing? I want to come back to my job. Yeah, what's great about working with Ron.

Oh my god. I would say Ron is like human mochi. He's like, well, the sound of his voice, but like he's a genuinely good human being. It's very... I was in love with Ron's work and I just wanted him to be on my show.

I didn't know him. I just wanted to work with him. And there's nobody like him. And he's sensitive and kind and he cares. He cares about where he is and who he's with.

And he's so singularly himself and so funny. I love who he is. I just love him. But Ron asks you, how do you do it, Maya? How do you balance it?

What I think is lovely about that question. And behind it is what we were talking about earlier, which is the idea of figuring out the being an architect of your own life, trying to figure out what's important to you, how to have a full life where all of us are lucky enough now to have been friends for 20, 30 years. And some of us are blessed with children and lives and figuring out how to work and be a good mom and good partner. And I have to say that being in your presence as your mother is pretty amazing.

You're a fantastic mother. And you have wonderful kids. And I know it's so important to you. I knew that was a really, really important thing for you to accomplish in this time around is being a mother. How has it changed your life?

I remember so... I became a mother while we were still working on the show, when we were still outside. None of my friends had kids. That was wild because you go from one lifestyle and you're watching my friends go out and have fun and you're over here like, I gotta get up with my baby. But thank God it taught me to let go of things that I really needed to let go of.

I called it my bullshit meter and just everything that wasn't important just fell away. There was no time. You have to keep a human being alive. And a human being that you're so in love with. And it just really helped me.

I tend to be someone who can get caught up in the minutiae. And I worry too much about pleasing people, making sure I'm polite, doing the right thing. I always felt like I was a very good student when it came to being at SNL. And if I had to do it all over again, I'd want to be a slutty rebel. I wasn't.

And I wanted to do it right, which got my way a lot to be honest. And then after I had Pearl and I didn't know whether I'd come back to the show or not, I wanted to be with you guys so much. And it's also so fascinating that such a hard job is actually a welcome thing after having a baby. I really just was like, you say to yourself, oh, I know how to do that. And even though you're juggling something else, I learn the lesson of if I'm doing something I love, then that's a good reason to say good night to her and go to work.

Or give her a bath and say, okay, I can't be here for bedtime or whatever, go to work because I loved what I was doing. Sometimes as you know, when you're traveling for work and your kids are little and you have to leave and knowing that you're going somewhere that you love or doing something you love makes it more worthwhile not to say I've never worked on things I don't love. We all have to make a living. That can be really tough too, but it made me make a mental note of what works for me. And so I try to seek those moments out when I can, as often as I can.

And we don't always have the opportunities. It definitely changed how I viewed work. And I think it's why I did the National Anthem. I think I like loosened up a little bit. And that was when I came back to work after Prozemore.

Well, we're very lucky that we got to see you work in real time. And I think I can speak for all of us that we know there's so much stuff always ahead with you. Like my everything you do is just fucking delight. Sorry I swore. I don't know why I swore.

I like to. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Maya Riddle. You've been listening to Good Hanged, the executive producers for the show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisperman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite. For the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spelane, Kaya McMullen, and Elia Zanaris.

For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weisperman. Original music by Amy Miles.