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MAYHEM Crashes The Show

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Like I've a letter G. Instant taney. Oh man. I'm doing a commercial for him cuz I don't know if I'm gonna survive this one Yeah, but it was good.

Oh What damn it is to the show you do Zack you wreck the camera already already? Oh, yeah, oh goodbye rumble bean We'll see you next show unbelievable anyway. Welcome to the show mayhem Miller Dan fair he's not supposed to say cousin. Yeah, you too, but I can't I've no chance It doesn't be positive.

We have a chance what beep him. Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah I heard you know baby believe isn't it what the bleep deep? It's like me. No, I think you can't I went green Every beep is a beep, but also some beeps are bleeps.

I just think that it's a show. Yeah But I have videos to show you I have a lot of stuff to give you a lot of stuff to get into that you're gonna talk Go ahead. No, I'll just fire them to I'm fired up. I haven't been on Jason I'm like I leave support like it.

You know I'm fans. So you're right. It's a Monday. We should move this show to Monday.

Yeah, oh Jesus Christ one of days sites. We don't have hope it's a movie We should move Jason L show from Wednesday to Monday. Listen. I'll come back if you guys want to do a meeting real quick No, I look enormous on that thing.

I'll like it. I'm big. I'm like I'm not that fat folks. Yeah, what has made you look Oh, wow, boom you up like make me look slender Slender man, right?

Well, allegedly this guy. Yeah, it was up when you're doing some kind of drugs I think I was that up because high school kids are saying that you know I still kids are kind of tripping already now. They make shit up now. Yeah, tap tap filter is the whole life.

Yeah I don't know about that, but yeah, but my day was I go to the bathroom turn out the lights and bloody Mary bloody America when she came and you know a girl hit on me and she was like Hey, you're really cute and then she sent me photos of her and she was really hot and then I told her she was hot and then more hot And then she was like here's my number and then we face time you and then she faced him and she was not hot And I was like what the hell but I didn't say cuz I'm like a nice guy's like oh and she was like this I'm not at all it's cool And then I was like what the hell was that after I got off the phone and I tell my daughter and my daughter was like that She's using a snap chat filter. You idiot and I was like, oh, well, what I didn't do it I think we all been captured one time or another You think he'd not like if you were not if you weren't old like I am I should have gone Oh, you're using a filter Because her face I want up that I just put on some BR goggles and then keep the filter on some Italian song The lines that crack your face Yeah, I don't know that one. Is that karaoke one women? To approve this woman in every place passolence what you have put This is presenting me like another that's another one.

They have a lot, but yeah, she was sandblasted I'm just gonna jump in in the days that Hollywood had a plenty of fish website where you pick up chicks right? I was like on the keyboard. I was married. Yeah, I was not now You know I know and I was just running around killing and these one lady said oh, yeah, no, no, no, no Asian girl, you know, I mean it was not space before snap chatting all that You know what?

I like this chick was a photoshop expert when she showed up out to 30 still took her down. Hell yeah My very first 10 to date. Yeah, maybe girl told her photos and then she was like come over at me my Negular J. I was like, okay, that's okay.

They're gonna say that and we're not coming over wait. I didn't say the word I don't know I didn't I'm not saying it again I said underwear anyway, she over the door she over the door she leed over like hi And I was like oh hi and then when the rest of the body was revealed it was like a 230 And I was like what but yes, but I just like pick up sing a leg, you know, I mean the game over It's a weird thing like guys will be like oh man. That's not what was sold girls will be like oh hell no Because I know girl that was like I touch a little one and I go not and I leave and I touched it before where because I'm so like if a girl has a big vagina like you know leave and I go oh dang I'm out of here But goes like touch a little weener they'll leave Oh, that's sad and I feel sorry for the little wiener guy Because he knows he's got a little wiener and if you touch it and leave then he's like oh no one will date me because my Weiners little and then it gives you a complex yeah And then you're all mean to people on the streets and you like ramble on about scipa chucks or something I'm tired of you did strategies. I don't know where you have to do you have to like really like jazz up your throw game or something I don't know yeah, you have to figure out how to like I don't know that's a whole set of bra It is I don't luckily I don't have to yeah, but I still feel like unless it's micro Which I think is pretty yeah, I feel like girls It's not like it's just I think guys see cuz when you look at porno Like the Rockin yeah, yeah, that's normal your plan out of your weight class you know what I'm saying Yeah, it's like you know you want to do type O and you go to the UFC gym, but you're like man these guys are good Tied botox So yeah, let it go ladies.

Let it let him live they're out there, you know yeah well No back to the big girl situation. Yeah, I gotta tell you that little up on your fish date was I mean pretty much Like the hottest was the ever guy I don't know if we're talking real dirty on this thing now I will admit there was and she was so thankful and so like that I did later on No, I mean she was just she was appreciative that's up. She was there. She's like so into yeah It made up for the obvious lack of physical prowess.

I feel like big girls to me big girls. It's good No, I'm big you gotta move it I can move it if you got if you got open a pickle job Then maybe this goes not for you, but I'll pop that pickle job son better for a good This is like when we became legal right and I was heavily using marijuana this lady. Okay. I wasn't even home I was like I'm out of town.

She's like damn in your area. She's trying to pop in but I'm in Japan Yeah, and she said okay. I left something on your door handle and it looked like it was a trash bag What was in it full of edible or like every kind of weed cookie, but this guy every like I'm talking like four hundred dollars of Bakery item that's been eight hundred I would have heard when you said edible. I thought you were gonna say edible arrangements I almost did love it.

I want to do it. I want to do it with the chocolate. Yes, so good. Okay, half a minute lady If you give me edible arrangement, it's it's happening.

I mean some of them are healthy Full fruit. I love man. I love me. Well, chocolate miss or edible arrangement.

Well, I mean look you just thought you should get somebody to apologize That's the only time I send them. I'm not that sorry anymore What what do you mean? I don't really deserves an edible arrangement anymore. I'm good That's a good barometer of your entire life, you know, if you're not At one point I should have said an edible arrangement to everybody I met yeah No, no, no, no the big memory for me with that Enagement was there's a famous girl.

She like became a more famous actress now, but we were on this show attack of the show together What was her name not me Catherine Zeta Joe's not mega Fox? It was some other lady that like was a learnt tonight and they She was in the movie predator. Okay, the recent predator movie where she was a female lead of this movie Okay, and anyway that this lady I got like okay. I met her I'm an attack of the show with Chris Hardwick and she was Olivia Munn there it is.

Okay. Yeah, Olivia Munn. Beautiful woman really big tall like she's Paul woman They were asking who would win in a fight between her or another host now The other host was very knowledgeable about martial arts and then I thought are trained knowledgeable sudden So maybe not trade so I pointed out that Olivia Munn is a big bitch. Yeah, whoop or rap now?

Yeah, yeah, I'm your show on your show. Wait, wait, I'm pretty sure it's your show. I don't blame me for it I bro, but you know how we talk. I'll look at him members of my show.

No, no, I was talking about who would win in a fight Oh, I was on some radio show. Okay, sorry bro I said that she's a big bitch at you a win a fight now in a printed article that sounds really bad She's a big bitch. So and she's like notorious. We're kind of being hard to work with Personally, she thought I was calling her that but now what my colloquial is oh man.

Just make it wider So it doesn't happen bro Ellis you leave it fucking banana sandwich I'm my studio cuz it's just constantly people fucking around back there. You don't know what to do You know what I mean pretty late back these days you are sorry. Yeah, it's really seems like it wait I'm good fired up as a director I Togger because you don't remember how far that by you to be I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I'm trying to be I'm not like a man like bro, I'm like bro, bro. Yeah, it's like we're talking after the show and it's not gonna be good I'm gonna forget.

I don't care. Good luck. I Hear him giggling what the fuck the boy forgot to all right it's fine Yeah, anyway, I live your mind hated my guts until I got her in edible arrangement that she's blooming Just kidding. Oh, that was juicy.

I know I'll just get a little last part. I was like you know I said she's just a she kicked me when I'm down I Kicking Michael keys in the news. She's like it. She's like you shouldn't eat your head.

She's big Heart yeah, I know a new destiny is I love this dude No, no, he's a debater. He's a guy that debates and he's like a libtad or something He's like gay. He's like gay. He's like gay.

He's like gay. He's like gay. He's like I was he's like open relationship gay or something He's like you're too much pussy and then you know what I was like kind of a trice This guy's like a fabled man, but he's really good debating like he debates people in schools them everywhere I don't think I've ever seen him even lose a debate. He's on all kinds.

I heard this guy He played you on the pooza pukass you did with I know who I am who's the guy you know who I am I am you know who the guy you on the podcast recently where he's a weightless doing your way to our seven-way guys He's gonna beat you in a fight which was a cool He made himself famous old clever. It was so clever I was I got caught with that rage bait and smeared it all over myself and went out to ask you that didn't know I mean I was I look in there You know me I was in and out and busted in this and that but everyone's why I'll come up and be like hey What the heck's going on in the internet and I would like I definitely remember getting my thumbs working. Yeah, bro Yeah, bro. Come to the gym.

So it worked on me too. Good job, but then I caught the joke I was like, okay, he loves being married to me. He's the wrong guy Yes, that little guy could beat the shit out of you. Yeah, next question.

No, but yeah, but you friends with him You're only spark out. Sorry. I mean look no Sam Hyde hired me to go with him to this who's Sam a long time ago I I agree do it. I didn't know who Sam Hyde was at all the race is that right?

Well allegedly allegedly? He said he's anti-semitated. I didn't get to the bottom of the race is he's here to stop the white Uh, genocide. I was like, wait a minute.

Oh, man. We get rounded up I love it because he can tell he's a bitter man. He's got a smog of painters in my feet Oh, really? Yeah, cuz he's why so angry at everybody He's like a big goon, but if he just like cut weight and whatever maybe you feel better about himself I think that's what's going on.

He's like a he's I use that word barometer But he's like the canary in the cold mind of like in cell culture a little bit. Yeah, you got a girlfriend and still mad about life Is she Asian? I know you should go white lady. That's why I said yes, but go ahead the race going then banger and get her pregnant hurry up The He wanted to be mad to you, but he couldn't be mad to you because if it gets down to it He's like, well, we're gonna sit outside like you can't step outside you fat Well, you know tired of you step back.

I did get that feeling where that normally he can like win a debate Yeah, big monster girl, but I ain't worried about that not like more and more to the point Yes, you could also be him if you came to that but you verbally beat him I believe had good angles yet you had a brain you were using your vocabulary and you handled him He made him look like an idiot so much so the destiny played it plus fantastic said like Oh big honor because this guy is a very popular guy is on it. Yeah, and he likes looking he points at it that guy is like an idiot. Oh Cool. I got somebody that somebody hurts all this clip.

Oh, okay Okay, cuz I was very shocked the guy hired me to come over there because this guy always say 260 pound fighters, right? That's his thing. Yeah, hey, sir in the booth. We cannot hear this it's Zach.

It's like okay. Well prove you say that one was Three yes, let me explain how I get that's okay. Oh, you interrupted me. Okay, sorry.

No, no, no you interrupted me Yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, you interrupted me. You're not gonna buy something else no, no, no, no go ahead. I'm sorry No, no, I'm not one.

Okay, bro. Just say your shit. Jesus this like kind of weird like meta Mcrowing of the conversation Like Oh and the immediate pivot, the immediate deflection. Sam must have the arguments for this, right?

Or... I think there's more important ideas before throughout that. Like, not as... Sam has a theater kit at heart, performs in these stuff well, and he's unchecked.

He can't really debate because he can't set up his dominoes unchecked, maybe, I guess. So I don't want to be able to see people have just to be able to have conversations about... You don't know him? I don't know.

Look, I've seen this guy's face before, I don't know why. And I know he is like a popular YouTube TikTok, all that, you know? If I was ever in a discussion where he used me as the person that he agreed with, I'd be pumped. Well, it's interesting because that wasn't about the substance of the conversation so much as the battle tactic is the hybrid using where he fell back.

Oh, let me finish. And I'm like, yo, what? Okay, I know. And he was like, no, seriously, you're gonna let me finish?

Not, here's the thing, right? Is that, I'm sure I'll argue with old destiny about something else. And I might agree with him about stuff. He's annoying.

Is he? Okay, but he's good, but that's part of his thing. It's like he is annoying. It's like that black chick that...

What's her name? Cast me outside? I mean, no, no, the black chick that's like, she acts super wide and she's like a... Candace Owens?

Yeah. She doesn't act white. She doesn't act white. She doesn't act white.

Yeah. I know. Actually, you're annoying. You don't even know.

Even if you're right, it's like, shut up. But you don't want to say that. But she does. I like her.

She tells... Yeah, I know. I like it too. I think we just want to...

I know. Which is like, women aren't happy unless they have children. I'm like, shut up. I don't know, man.

A lot of older ladies don't got kids who really live in life, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they have your own income. Yeah, what about people... Okay, what you got between your legs?

They don't like kids. I know, yeah. It's tough, yeah. Yeah, I don't...

You know, kids just a lot, man. Like, you see, like, if you don't have women, if they don't have a child, they're like wasting their life. I'm like, shut up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You know what you need to do? Worry about you. If you're happy with kids, then good, great. If you're not happy with Adam, good, great.

I don't understand the arguments. Yo, I got to look into this stuff. That's anything? Because like, what else?

Like, there must be a lot of that then. Because that was like, barely what we were talking about. You know what I mean? That was just a argument tactic.

I think he's like, that's a guy that I can nail to the wall. And you were just there helping him point at proof of point. No, yeah, yeah. No, he was an accident because this guy like brought me there to Troll Bradley.

Which guy brought me there? Sam, what's the big guy you got? I wrote in the car with him up there, yeah. Wait, you went there with the racist guy?

Yeah. Wait, that's a friend? That's what I said. That's what Bradley said.

No, yeah, look, I can not agree with somebody. I said he brought you there and then he came to Fort. So he went to Troll Bradley. But then the way that the guy was just like, okay, cool.

That's what happened? Did you even tell it to the way that the guy? No, yeah, yeah. I talked to him, yeah.

Did you debate Bradley? I mean, yeah, he didn't really bring up. Could I be you and fight? Nah.

In a funny, like he'll say Nate Diaz, you think I can be you and fight me here? Isn't that crazy? I know. Like everybody, it's like, he's like, I'm not going to ask.

You know why you're not going to ask? Because he might actually fight you right now, you pussy. That's what you're worried about because you won't actually do it. There's very little internet between us.

Yeah. Man, that's awesome. He wouldn't even say it. Lessons are hard.

You know, I think that guy's clever and has done something. He's developing a little empire, you know? In San Klam Posse money. They're terrible, but they made money, so congratulations.

Sick. And so did Bradley Martins. Sorry, I didn't mean to derail the whole conversation about women and having babies, but you know, I'm just wondering now, so you're trying to debate me now. I see what you do.

Yeah, I like the debate. I love the argument. Let's go. Yeah, what do you want to argue about?

You're the one that wants to favor children. You're the favorite of women should have kids. Yeah, women should have kids. They shouldn't have kids.

They shouldn't have kids. They shouldn't have. I'm saying that women should be wholes. I'm saying that they all can be wholesal.

But the institution was a pop out there. You know that monkeys got coins and they gave all their monkeys and they banged. Yeah. Donkey shows are some of the most entertaining shows I've ever seen.

No, that's a... I couldn't bring myself. Don't drink anymore of that. Oh, okay, you're right.

Oh, I'll break your pump. It works. You know who might have had too much black rival? Ron Swett.

Sean Strickland. So we're going to play people that know that he's in the news right now. What a guy that guy is. Full of...

Vim and Bigger? Like, man, he's a moron. And it's a weird thing, like, if you say that, then you go to watch Adam, like, I ain't going anywhere and if I do, go ahead. Beat me up.

You think I give a shit, dude? I'll wake up. I'll take a piss. Go, he did it.

You don't fucking... I'll sweat you, bitch. Give a shit if you're fucking tough. You're an idiot.

You're an idiot. That's what you are. You're an idiot. That's what you're an idiot.

In the dictionary, idiot. Your face. You're a dumb person. You say dumb shit.

You're full of hate. You're dead, but you're being like, you got me less than said it all right. I guess what? I'll make me mad.

It's it. And I would cry too if you're analyzing. You cry. You sad.

If you're sad, turns to aggression. You're an idiot. And everyone loves you. Kids love you.

Oh, she's a good point. Does he? He's never had a point. He's an idiot.

Jabb T. Boring. But anyway, he was in the corner of a fight and the guy was like, man, Striclin, I'm joking your boy. And Striclin comes in.

Let's see, let's. The best part is he. I think he's trying to kick his flip flops off to fight the guy, but it makes him do this weird. I saw it.

I saw it. I saw it only one time. I have to analyze the video. So I want to watch it again.

It's like a retarded robot. Something really happens with these walking where it goes horribly wrong. He stomps to the forest like Shrek. Suck it.

Oh, yeah, okay. I can see getting fired up. Wait. Okay, but come on, but he throws punches He he just kind of like he's not coming there pretty good punch to me.

Who's this corner man? Get him in the tie-clench? You know, that's a USC guy. I know wait.

No, it was in the corner with Strickland, right? So he just ran up with strickland. Two USC guys came in into five of the night. The black guy is a What do you call it?

He's like a he's like a turn is on the map because of this I don't be on the contender now. I'm like you're in for sure. Yeah for sure. Yeah, so he says something which is disrespectful But also if you're yelling stuff at me Yeah, yeah, is this in Vegas?

I think something up there really don't why was there hilarious Yeah, so that guy gets it in you know, he's like, you know, fuck you guys and I kind of pretty awesome Yeah, like you chump the guy out and he made fun of his team He's beat up his whole team kind of little bit that's pretty badass and you punch him and do anything Then do anything and yeah, yeah, it was good And he's on the map now like and I don't know how good that guy is I just know that he did beat our guy and he also made stricken look like a dumbass Strickland has a lack of impulse control. It's showing like what the fuck do you know me? Corner man, you gotta teach so yeah the interview with the fight of first so the fighter Hernandez talks to Ariel Hawani hmm, Ariel Hawani in the field constantly Me so fuck you Sean Strickland, you know, yeah He did but I'm still standing still smiling Second knock out amazing Yeah, I remember that guy here. Okay.

Well cool. I look forward to seeing him in the contender not Because I don't watch it, but anyway then then so I'm like I watch that I see that and I go okay cool Dude, you know look if someone in the corner is talking smack and you're in the middle of a fight You're pretty amped up you're fighting and you told them to suck it and then they came in assaulted It's assault dude I don't know it's like hard to decipher when you're like you're in a fight and you're a fighter But honestly, I don't care if you're a fighter when you're not in a fight and you punch somebody It's assault and you're not supposed to do that because the authorities can come you should worry about that if you want to have No record or whatever but then the thing that makes it worse is Sean trickin gets because he loves to talk he gets other camera goes look You guys don't understand Abraham Lincoln would have done the same Basically what he says I You're gonna wait Jason easy amor on because hear me out go ahead. No listen this guy I don't know why this mentality this mentality if you're constantly thinking the Abraham Lincoln and George watch it and Andrew Jackson is right over your shoulder. You're gonna always fight a duel with everybody Do you really think Abraham Lincoln would know would punch no if he would he would challenge you to a wrestling match And win because he was an excellent wrestler, but he would say are you ready and do you accept the challenge?

Yes, he wouldn't just punch you know, I get where Sean's coming from Okay, I need to risk get respect. Yeah, but in real life that shit does not pay off yet Three to five I can't know that's what I'm saying Do you like be the bigger man that when you say because he does this thing where it's like the masculinity thing in the American thing and I'm like dude being a man is not I punch you in the face if you flip me the bird and bro It's just not yeah Like you need to understand that like if somebody says you're a bitch and they flip you off that that's their insecurity You gotta take that I don't care I'm cold face and put it over top of you where you don't care about anything You don't mean anything you look stupid. Yeah, you're saying that's America right there like okay, dude Very like dad like just is hung over energy coming in a butt with his hands down to give a straight right hand Yeah, okay. Yeah, if you if you punch my child, I will walk in You know and you and you lost you gave the guy that you hate and also the guys makes you know I think that's racist I don't know I haven't listened to a lot of his Dude get the he's on there.

Who's the blonde girl that works for the UFC. Oh, yeah, he's on their recent And I know he's like America was all about Chuck Liddell and now it's a bunch of people playing a sand pit and I'm like What yeah, he's saying you're gonna get if you just googled He's so strictly racist comment did he's okay Yeah, he says like a market chef and all those guys playing in the sand. Oh, I'm like Really I think he's got a funny bro. Okay.

He's like I'm not I'm not triggered by his racism. Yeah. I'm just saying he's racist Okay, okay, and we've got to get it. I know I'm not saying you go to jail I feel like in America see what we forget is we have the first amendment and that I Respectively you're allowed to be right he is allowed.

Okay as long as you're not hurt nobody and if you're a huge racist fan Then you should get his t-shirt. Yeah, and that's fine. It is and if you want to see you on the street and you go boo I don't care. I know that's just it's just I'm just saying I don't know their Mexican I don't think so I think more of it was just personal because he was like calling Sean out That's his teammate, you know Sean's writer diapers The other guy is known for not punching everybody else in the streets who is who is the black guy that was at They with him.

I'm sorry. Oh, I know I know he was kind of respectful, but also a very angry too So the guy listen I'm gonna piss him off though. I've been in a million corners I've been at the fights a million times look it's like a tribe in there We're not it's my when I'm walking my guy down there. We're a team.

We're a unit We like really care about each other so when you see your guy get choked out your blood's already up Then this guy does the gesture right I could feel getting fired up I could I could understand it and have some empathy for it, but it's not gonna do it in case I mean, I'm surprised they're not gonna suspend them, you know Commission because you have look he's in the corner that means he signed a paper and you know I'm saying he's a corner man You can get your license revoked and yet all that. I don't know if it's gonna be a ball I think that's the other thing. He's getting away with stuff because didn't he Where he just started punching. Yeah, yeah, I want in the crowd.

Yeah, buddy. What happened to him? You got a ton of time when you're big star. They let you do it grab by the pussy.

They do yeah, yeah Yeah, he's getting away with it. So I mean John's getting away with it. Yeah John's been getting away with her while and now he's out Now he's like done that did you see the fun call? Yeah, wait what?

Sorry ladies like the ladies like John Jones was driving and he was He released it. I missed everything. She's like John Jones was driving and he was naked from the waist down He was too So she said I'm a boat and then he gets on the phone and told so the cops and goes probably don't want to take this any further My brother and his friends are bad people they slit throats. Yeah, I heard that I heard that I wasn't at a civilian that was at a cops On video.

No, listen. He was out of his mind. Bro. He was super high of his mind.

No, he constantly stays that way He constantly stays that way and it's one of those things that like you're a balling out of control You're like the king of ABQ what you know who's gonna tell you to stop nobody and then you know everyone's hanging on And nobody can humble him right maybe if he had a good humbled You might have been like somebody the system will enough cops will pile on top. Yeah, I'll get your job Don't you know what I bought up for eight minutes. I mean they brought enough you brought enough I'm gonna get a dealer, right? Yeah, I mean it's all broad.

Listen. I don't want to tell you but I would get standing ovations every time I came back to that Jail brother like heard about me on the news. Hey, he's coming back. Hey, you would see me on the news.

They're like, I We told you you'll be back and I'm like, oh, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't have got went ballistic But you know you're feuding with the cops. That's what happens.

You know and Johnny Jones is on that tail end of that It looks like he's just gonna keep I don't know I think it's gonna get worse because now he doesn't have to ever be in shape, right? He already looked like a damn soccer dad It's a weird thing like you go out to heavyweight you could go to the gym and get Jaffy wait, and he likes like I put on 20 pounds. It should have just looked like an Adonis Because he just ate whatever he wanted he did and also I will say there's something about doing kickbox and all the time You develop abs lower abs so it kind of makes you look fatter. Oh, wow Yeah, people don't think about that but like one of my guys went to moy-tai in Thailand You went to moy-tai training camp for a while they came back and look first I was like oh this guy's fat or something.

Nope. Nope. He just that lower abs are super strong for snapping his kicks up Wow, yeah, I mean he is carrying extra weight too, but it's same as John John John was like not only extra body fat But also his lower abs are just built from kicking so much. Oh I need to think about that.

I always thought like I see people in MMA where when they first hit the scene They seemed skinnier and fitter and then when they got older and been in the game for a long time They got big you don't realize it cuz at the time you're like yeah That's what he looks like and then you see like he's first fired you're like oh dude you were like leaner like John John's was a lot leaner, but he still was a light heavyweight and then in the end when he was before he went to heavyweight When he was last light heavyweight fight he was not a skinny person. No insane with our love ski I mean everyone's different. Sorry cuz I think he's got older. Yeah, he seems like the kind of guy that was like I did a lot of steroids I did but I got in my 30s and I tested more and I couldn't do it my body started to look like like a normal person Yeah, yeah, yeah, well also to like the mixed martial art like your body Develops into whatever you've been doing a lot and you can tell the difference between like bodybuilder guys And then due to fight because you have to have all this like crazy weird core muscles Mm-hmm Then it's like from clenching and twisting and jiu-jitsu and you know I mean the stand up and your body looks different over time You know like a dustin poi you kind of started out like beach muscle guy and then you know now is Different that's what I'm saying it's more abs and stuff exactly yeah Yeah, so I don't know yeah to me every athlete is different But yeah over a long enough time you develop whatever muscles you've been working on right yeah It's a it's interesting body shapes and what it means cuz to me it doesn't I never was like are you real big or you're real fat Or you're like I'm not worried about that the only I would be like if you got big legs I'm a little cautious like if that if I'm spiring a guy and he got big legs.

I'm like yeah Maybe I'm like maybe watch maybe watch don't eat too many from that guy You got skinny legs. I'm like you might be fast, but I'll catch you Which is not always right but I swear you less that's for sure big leg people I'm like I don't know I don't get out the way as much. I'm gonna get hit I'm like big leg guys gonna punch me this could be bad. Yeah, it is I was gonna there's a video of Alice mania idea because it's like I've done a lot of fights where I invented them and then people further the sports So to speak where they just did my event somewhere else and good for them.

I really don't care I'm happy as long as people are entertained But then I saw one yesterday of people playing soccer with boxing gloves and I was like wait a minute Oh, what oh what the hell how do you feel about that? I don't know. Let me see some of it I've never seen this. Oh my god double team It's not one man to a fight then.

I only think it's like if is there a fail. I know how to punch a guy exactly I'm saying like bro. I don't know I think it's like if you can't touch the ball Was exactly so wait, but what up no kicks here then it is there enough side because I'm not saying it's soccer only downstairs And then punching only upstairs you can't kick the guy apparently right that'd be fair that'd be that's good because I'm saying like I would add some kicks into this mix right real quick. Yeah, like yeah Like gig or punching I don't know I'm gonna get very long of this like Because man I like I was like yeah I was like I'll play but if it's like kicks I'm like I don't want to play to be honest with you when I played soccer for one Year I never had played soccer but night grade my friend where and I was like alright I'll try it and I was like not I never played soccer so I did I played hockey so I kind of knew angle That bulk and show but I didn't bro my job was they're like Miller.

There's gonna be some guys coming down They're called forwards your defense of defense. Okay. I got it. You're just gonna run those guys over and kick the ball as far as Good great.

I know I did Right, I only got one foul the whole time because apparently they showed me that if you shoulder check the guy is legal And I was like alright, so I was just going lifting was off their feet trying I played for the ball, but I was just checked guys I just kept sending them off into my son was a was the diesel on his team is that what you call? He's a get called That's what I called him Well cuz he would get cold a lot and he had a he had a very he was if you hit if you if two people collided Well, I would go down and my son I would always be like did act like it hurt cuz he they would hit him and they go down like oh I'm talking to say it over like you such a bitch, but I'm like I'm very proud of you Play though, but this revs always be like you're the bully and he's like he's not the bully just not a bitch There's a difference But he was always that he was always the heavy and it was funny to see his like little Like he could tell he was like I wiped the floor with all these people Cool. Yeah, just he was physical and he's fast. He's good athlete.

He could box that up pretty good, too Sweet, but he was definitely good soccer player I didn't like the parents think maybe because they didn't make it that like how now's my chance to like kind of make it With him or something, but it's like he could go pro and I'm like at the time I think he was like 12 and I was like shut up like just just let him have fun playing soccer Well, I got to talk about pros like just like I think we all I think that it's like all of us kind of have like a desire to see Somebody succeed, you know, yeah, but I look I always felt like if you love it You can go anyway with it if I tell you to love it I know it's not how it goes yeah cuz I if I yeah, but I was beating me over to head with computer school You go to computer school, but I'm like yeah, I didn't really love that I like got after mixed martial arts back when it's called an old barn and was like after it like loves about challenge and Learning all these new physical things. He's not was he an athlete my father? No my father. That's my father lost the fight to Like Tennessee Golden Gloves champ who went on to the Olympics.

Yeah, I thought yeah, so far. Yeah, yeah, yeah Good enough to find a golden up. That's good. I know but but see the thing was like he decided all right box and bounce for me You know, I know I had a different take on it I just always because people like you're a professional athlete you must want your son to be one of my I want my son to Not yeah, and I also know that it's not forever Yeah, like when usually if you put your whole life into a sport and then you have to put your whole life into another thing After you just gave half your life to a sport you're behind everybody else.

Yeah, so is there cool things about being an athlete? Absolutely, but if you don't love it, and you're just doing it to try and make that happy don't don't don't make me happy Do it for you. Yeah, I'm doing for you. I'm doing for me.

I got nothing to do with it If you want to go to school and get a job and sell real estate, I'd be like That was like computers go I always think like somewhere in the multiverse There's like mayhem that like with like with no cauliflower ear just like sitting at a desk You know what I mean? Like you would have been having drinking a Diet Coke I don't think it would have been a Diet Coke. Click it, click it to the chicken heart whiskey and listening to my kids bitch Yeah, I don't know It's the same as me like if I had it like if my parents had been like no you need an education because they won't but if they had A push it and I said yeah, good idea and then did it I don't know if I'm a free spirit You know like I needed to be creative, you know, but where did I come from is that in your jeans right or is that it is But how much I think it's in you I know but how much nurture was it like what effect? Okay, I know there's like a weird philosophical discussion at this point But like at what point okay was it at what point was like, okay?

I'm gonna be a fighter. All right, maybe I can bet that around 17 But what about earlier when I was like Street fighting kids? What was that preparing me for what would happen? We've seen not every little kid has street fights a lot I know I did and they said that you were kind of built for it.

Yeah, I know so there's nature nurture thing But to send me off on a discipline path of this instead of just being a gangster You know what I mean? Well sending you on a discipline path of being a gangster was like no No, no, I've just been planning on instead of discipline path of saying like you like hey Man, you really get a beating up here. We should just keep beating people up That's not a thing that you would recommend your kids to do no, but when they was mortify it then suddenly it's a nap But now there is a career way to be an MMA guy. No, you know That was like when I was a skateboarder when I first told my parents.

Hey, I want to be a pro skateboarder My parents were like that's not a job. Yeah, and they kind of had a little bit down there You're fucking crazy like now if you're a 12 year old you have to be a pro skateboarder. Yeah, I'll have good I yeah, and it's like I'm real good for 12 then I'd be like well, then yeah, I'll drive you there and 12 years old You want to be a make better? Well, take you to the little gym take it to UFC gym I want to have a corner now.

I know I mean start you off there and then go to a real gym later It's just crazy to it's a weird thing where I know you get hit in the stages But like so is like I want to be a motocross rider like motocross is so dangerous way dangerous And mom's a dad support their kids in that they do I'm like Die I bet some like some very little Moto dude, it's like young. I don't know exactly how I said I think he fell and like some other writers ran him over So he's like a like 16 seven year old kid that was like full like sponsored pro guy I'm not awake so don't follow it as much but he's gone boy in a way like we kind of are drawn to that sport or fighting to because The inherent danger and risk is involved. It wouldn't be awesome to watch them go around on motor scooters and the basketballs You know I mean around the Walmart It's like we want to see him flying through the air and that's part of the spectator No, why do you want to fly through the air knowing that because that's the other thing I don't think there's anybody out there that races that hasn't had a catastrophic slam. Yeah, yeah, I don't care How good you are you've been shit whipped?

Yeah, yeah, but the beauty of it is flying through there You know, you know, I mean coming down right now. It's difficult. So it is fun to be to me with the bonus Yeah, like yes, it was there were slams I took where I was like that I'm in shock from how much pain and how catastrophic that was but when I go back and I make it It's that much more fulfilling. Yeah, because I the consequences made it even better.

Yeah, is that yeah, totally bad No, no, dude the beauty of having a belt on you the beauty of standing there with the lights and the whole crowd, you know Chan oh my goodness, of course, and then yeah the other side going to the crying in the locker room You know, I mean they're horrible. It's the human condition. Yeah, you know, it's two sides of the same There was I think a time with like people that were like I broke my ankle four times in a row I don't skate anymore And I'd be like what a pussy but then looking back I'm like that person might have had some common sense and maybe they realized that They couldn't make it but I also think is there has there been a person out there that has broken their ankle or wrists four times In a row and then persevered and then became one of the best in the world. Sure.

Certainly. So it's it's whether you also do you got to know Your your limitations. Yeah, I can some people could they come back and be like, I'm not giving up But every time they do it now They're a little hesitant because that last one really fucked with their emotions and should have they just got back to school and got a job Yeah, because I think everybody has to have that You know, they're all well a lot of times if you go for your dream, you know I mean and make it as to a certain level great and then you know at some point you have to like tie, you know Go ahead and retire. That's just the reality of athletics athletics will wash you out eventually, you know But if you have more in the tank, you can always go again I think I got to it.

I know it's a mega ramp slam at one point where I was like, you know, I'll be back and then when I came back I was like, eh Because I was in the air when I went over the deck I saw my life flash. Oh, really? Yeah, cuz I it was like when Meg and I first started and I did a Trick over the gap that I'd never done before indie 360 and I was like, oh an indie 540 where I do like a front flip Right would be cool to do right after it Yeah, and as soon as I went upside down and grab my body went Oh, I'm over the deck because you can feel it Oh really and I kicked and started wiggling around and when I wiggled I landed my hip on the coping and it made a big I still have a dent and this is 30 years ago where I can put my finger in touch my hip I'm going to meet disappear and never come back. There's a clear.

Here's my head With my finger still right now made my butt cheeks different one butt cheek filled moved in for the whole Remember this is coming back. It was catastrophic And then when I bounced then I went over head first into the deck like over to the flat and I had to do a front flip I landed my back and I was that was too. I was like I'm dead and then hit the coping I was like I'm alive. Oh, no now I'm dead and then I hit the ground I was like I couldn't feel my legs and they wouldn't move for like no five minutes and Jake Bram is there He started tearing up.

He's like, you're right. I'm like you're you're crying. I'm not all right. Yeah, and then turns out I was all right But wait now and that was way before that was I was the first guy to go down on the mega ramp where I was like dude you guys hear about Ellis What happened did he went over the deck on 85?

Did your shoes blow off? Oh, yeah Like we are he's came off. He's landed in Texas. Mine came off and went like 10 feet away Okay, okay, yeah, my game off like more than once at that fucking ramp got that killed me a couple times right land where I was like I'd rather be dead.

Yeah, I'm just sitting there like Like you've win everything's gone your ribs hurt your kidneys hurt like the organs got yeah Like they got a I can imagine big fun building dude look I had pads on so my legs didn't break Yeah, but it's made my stomach I don't know bro. I know I would be like a complete pussy in the skateboard world I would be in like equipment like a mother fucker become move. I know that's the same. No, there's some way to get you said That's a happy medium Yeah, but to me I think also because I'm a bigger guy yeah pads made I needed less pads to really fly to really move Yeah, and I was you know, I was a bigger guy so when I would slam I'd be like alright And people like dang like you didn't break your your arms for that and I was like uh no And I was like yeah, I could take a hit so I want less pads because of that I know and then I think later on I was like I should have had more pads on I'm pretty so Well, the most I don't know that little skinny Kidboard kid because little guys don't hit the ground side.

Well, no, but this kid's arms broke I and I told him as a pro-sitter one of them one of your friends. Oh, they brought you to left Wait, you know what no, and I'm like no yeah, you got lip weights so we slam It's not as bad you need to be doing like a lot and he thought I was kind of crazy But I think later on I saw him and I left wait, so it was the kid Ryan or something Oh Ryan sheckler. Yeah, I thought I'm late wait. Okay good because I was like dude He's like no no.

Yeah trust me. You've land he did Proper lifting though not just like go to the gym. He went he did like balance lifting and yeah I feel like not for if you're like an acrobatite. You have personal training like I mean He's like the beginning of the proper athletes of skateboarding.

Oh, okay good Oh wow because at the time I met him he was not into it He thought the lifting weights was whack now he had like a coach for his contest rides He had personal trainers. He was like he also had million to dollars Yeah, yeah, because that's the other thing it's like you should have all these things You paying for it. Yeah, I'm a pay for a personal train if I don't even money But if I got millions of dollars and yeah, man, you should everybody should personally train me Give me some steroids. I know millions of dollars because it TV shows any one multiple ex games.

Okay. Yeah He was a big man. Yeah, so he looked at me all crazy when I told him live weights, but I'm glad to hear What's on the way back on when he was like yeah, you're like a skinny kid I'm saying man, maybe you should a kid in a sponsorship or something. Yeah, he was a little kid His mom wrote me a letter like a fan mail like my son looks up to you I gave him a skateboard and weals and he wrote it for a while and I was like man He was real little I was like man, you're amazing.

I literally while and then a couple years later He was Ryan Shekler and I was like hey, all right something to do with that nice. I know yeah It's nice to see when you're like hand a guy a little bit of ice and you take it's always been nice to me So you remember so school one more video before we leave of a guy breaking a world record of a ski jump where I was watching the movie last night Where those guys in Italy or Spain or some shit foreigners, you know, let's trickle and handle this but they played rugby in the plane crash near Chile I believe so maybe that she they were Chilean. This is right here the snow Yeah, this is like this guy jumps so far that it looks like he's gonna land where that plane crash like it is Brought up dude watch this. Oh, I don't know what red ball always gets their fingers in this No, it's not it's brought up.

It's not really is it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh wow.

That is way cooler. Look at that. Look watch See that's where the plane landed down there. He's like the plane man.

Oh deliver those batteries back. So we're gonna eat each other Yeah, yeah, like a dude he went and got the batteries and then he jumped back down He's like now let's eat some ass That movie really affected me man. Yeah, it's a weird thing about that. I was like that's a movie like one they said 70 days Dude 70 yeah, but the man quick I can live a couple years on ass Friends with who's the buttonable snowman a buttonable No, fuck yet.

Yeah, but a little snowman man. That guy's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Look. I don't know man I've lost out in damn wilderness. Have you been I mean no? Oh, I always know how to get back.

Yeah, I know People be like oh man, how long I was like A day Fuckin maniac I Just like chicks I looked it I would walk about and she can blow me I also said that they would drop bears where koalas had rabies and they fall out of trees and maul your face and they could kill you Did that happen no, I've never seen a call of koala bear with rabies. No true. No koala bears don't attack people They run from people do have commitment if you tell women that koala bears either in a country where koala bears will kill you They'll date you or yeah, yeah, so all night now and then you gotta be gonna go Ah, no, it's not a big deal in a big like spiders. I mean there's millions of it's not a big deal You just go I got way spider, you know, but giving that's not a knife energy Yeah, it's a it's a easy thing those things those are gonna Yeah, I don't actually anybody if you're lazy just any like oh, man Is it true like I don't know you can up I don't I know I will not date you That's the other thing because I think it's cuz I'm jacked because I'm I'm old you why would you be in a Molt much exciting my damn's more than ever.

Yeah, so I don't like I don't really care about It's a weird thing. I used to fight not one that I want to sleep with everybody. Yeah, and now I barely want to sleep with anyone I see yeah, it's like a weird switch has been turned off. I'll have sex, but I don't really care you don't care about sex anymore No, okay, well, that's a weird Zen boot just kind of fun thing like if my chick was like hey, I'm going away I'll be like okay.

Well, I'll miss you but like I'm not like well who's gonna jizz me. I'm like I don't care The milker stupid all right well, that's a show that blue fucking my dog I don't know how this happened. Am I allowed to cuss on the show? Yeah, it's been an hour you can go I think we covered that too, but thanks for doing the show dude.

All right. Yeah, thank you for having me They've been a great experience. I just flew you by oh sure. We had a chat right there the whole time there Oh, my bad.

We'll start getting to see you get to see us and then it disappears because this is a podcast if anybody wants to see more Shows Jason our show does couple shows a week on patreon patreon calm slash Elle's may also you can witness us recording live shows They're turning to podcast like this one. So there you go. Have a good one everybody. Oh, where do we go?

What's making stuff? Oh, everybody who watches your show knows who may am I just trying to be polite all right don't die

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