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EPISODE · Apr 16, 2025 · 56 MIN

Mayhem Miller's Tales From PRISON

from Jason Ellis 2.0 · host Jason Ellis

Jason's Tour Dates Here: https://thejasonellis.com Mayhem Miller joins the show this week and brings some intense energy. Jason and Mayhem recollect their last experience together, and Mayhem catches the crew up to speed on his crazy life. The crew talks fighting, coaching, prison, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon to call/text/write in LIVE https://www.patreon.com/EllisMate Call/Text (424) 350-1721 or email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everybody, it's Jason Ellis, who's like kind of a comedian now. I'm on the road. The Jason Ellis.com is where you can see all my tour dates and you can buy tickets from the same website. Crazy right?

Chicago Man, Zaines on April 30th. I'm going to be there. Are you in Nashville, Tennessee? Because May 1st, I'm going to be there too.

What about Miami? Yeah, May 21st, I'll be there. And then the modern theater in, in, in, I can, what, I can, I don't know what it is, but it's in Florida. I'm going to be in O'Kala or May 23rd.

If you know, if you're in O'Kala and I'm seeing it wrong, you know what I'm saying. It's in Florida and I'm going to be there. And then Canadians, I'm coming to Canada. So watch out every day.

I'm going to smash it. And then, I'm like, last night I did the conditioning circuit with the guys and I was thinking about you guys. I was like, ah, do an electric car. And now I'm cold.

I'm cold. Welcome to the show. Hey, good job. Yeah.

I know you still like, you know, I'm used to sitting down here. Hey, man. I'm here. I know.

We're super charged motherfuckers. We're, we're, yeah. Welcome back to the show. Jason Mayhead Miller, everybody.

Thank you for having me back. I didn't think I was going to say that ever again. Ever again. Who would have guessed on your bingo card?

May I'm still live in 2025? Yeah. What a comeback. Man, what a comeback.

Like, dude, what's that? What's that real bad? Singer got Corey Corey, Philbin, he's got that song to come back kid. Yeah.

I thought he came back pretty hard. Holy shit, man. I remember you smoked him. I was at some comedy club looking psycho and some do it.

Well, shit, you're still alive. That's fair. And it's stuck with me. I need to be alive.

Because I was like, I don't think anybody in prison could kill you. No, no, you could, it was like, you would be them. But you have a head on a swivel, bro, because they come in packs. You got to pay attention.

If you're going to fight me, you got to come in a pack for sure. But it was a weird respect. And then, you know, it's political. So it's political.

And then I just became the guy who's like coaching everybody how to fight. Nice. Yeah. I coached the blacks out of flight.

How do box a bit? Show some Mexicans a little bit of clench technique. Like I was like, the blacks wanted to punch and the Mexicans wanted to grab on on on everybody wanted to punch. Everybody wanted to punch.

Some guys like, Hey, Holmes, I see you grab the guy with the head and I forgot. Like Don Fry, you know, I'm gonna go fry. I coach now. Sick.

And I've noticed, because boxing, I'll grab like, you know, that's right. But I noticed that all dudes when they want to learn, they do the Mayweather, Philly Shepherd's dance. But I'm teaching that all the time. Every guy I go, what are you doing?

And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, why are your hands like that? And it's like, because that's how I fight. And I'm like, where'd you get that?

And it's like, well, probably, I don't know, like, YouTube or something. I'm like, what could it have been Floyd Mayweather? And it's like, yeah, maybe, maybe. And I'm like, did you know that you're not Floyd?

And that doesn't work for anybody? There's like three people that was with that specific Philly shell is that you need to have thousands of hours of seeing Jabs come. Yeah, you can go up Harry. And when you hear Emily roll, his show that goes over his head, yeah, absolutely.

I have a shield, like a complete shield here and a complete shield here. And then this hand has to float in and out. And now everybody just goes like this. And now they're just having their hand out by their dick for no reason.

Yeah, I'm like, I know it's illegal to be punching the penis in boxing. So I don't know why your hand is blocking that. But then I'm like, I spot a bunch of people last night and I was like, I can't every guy I was like, Hey, man, that that thing is not good. And he's like, really?

And most guys, they can tell if I'm way better than they listen. But if they don't know me, they're like, how does this guy know? And I'm like, okay, just do it and see how it And then I'll punch him in the face a bunch of times. And I'm like, how am I keep landing hands on your face?

You got to sting those guys for real? Like I just sting him with a good job to wake him up to the fact that hey, this is not the best. Yeah, because because knuckle anybody who wants to do the fight sport, most likely has a certain amount of bullheadedness where they're like, yeah, and everybody thinks they know everything, everybody thinks they're second coming to Bruce Lee, Muhammad, Ali, whatever. Yeah, they're everything's their Mayweather junior.

And then the only way to get it through to them that does not work is shock them in the face. It is the fastest way to get them to understand that that's not working for see. But as a coach, though, it's your responsibility to after you start going to face, give them a nice little looking eyes like, Oh, I'll do I'll even do I'll even go, Hey, and I'm like, see how my hand is right next to your face. I could have punched you in the head.

It's an eye movement like a little bit of like open eyes like, Hey, you saw that? And some guys get it. Other guys will still keep by the way until you hit him with a good. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Every Saturday morning, I'm glad you're coach guys. That's good man.

Yeah, I'm having fun. Yeah, I'm a handbag guy. I'm like motherfucker, get pad guy. I do like that.

I find like for guys in if you want to, because they want to learn how to fight. A lot of them want to learn how to fight until they fight and they realize they don't really want to fight. I'm like, if you're going to learn to fight, you're getting punched in the face. There's no you work your way up and you don't get hit.

Like you're going to get hit and the more you get hit, the more you get used to it, the better you are, the more relaxed you are. When you get all tense, it's easy for me to hit you. If I hit you, when you get angry, it's easy for me to see what you're going to do because you're puffing up, you're showing me your elbows like there's all these things that are involved. Be calm, be cool.

Listen to me, put your hands up. Don't reach for nothing. Keep them here. It's hard for me.

I can't hit you if your hands are here. There's different tiers of martial artists though. There's dudes that like think they want to fight until they, you know what I mean? And then that guy will might be like self-defense dude, will be like, if he needs this skills, he has them.

And then there's like Jim Bro, that's in there fucking fighting whoever all the time. That guy could be a fighter, could be the toughest dude in the bar. Who knows? And then you got like the guys who were amateur and professional.

The levels are, there was, there's a girl there last night that was complaining about her neck was sore because she got hit recently. And then the other girl had a cottoner lip from getting hit. So she didn't spar. And I was like, I'm not going to say anything.

It's none of my business. They want to fight. And I was like, if you actually want to fight, like you and I are very similar when it comes to, and so are real fighters. It's like, not so much, maybe where I'll go to the gym and my coach is like, it's going on with your hand.

And I'm like, nothing. And he's like, well, come on, they're showing me. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, it looks pretty banged up.

Like, maybe you take a day off. And I'm like, no, I'll just use the other one. I'm like, and they're like, push through, push through. Yeah, they're like, maybe rest for a second.

So if you come in and you're calling rest on yourself, you're not supposed to be here. There's a culture of, look, if anyone complains about an injury or something like that, you just like, subtly turn your gaze away from it. Unless the catastrophic injury, we're gonna have to cart you out of here. You know, yeah, just fuck off.

My whole body's injured right now. Of course, I'm still in the mat. There's no other way to do it to a high level unless you ignore the little, you know, but man, I'm coaching a guy for a title fight. You are?

Brady Huang is fighting in Pittsburgh for the title out there. And he's just MMA. He's a fucking lip. I told him go hard.

I was like, because his training partner is that day. There wasn't enough guy like, there wasn't a guy there who was really good at defending from the bottom. And this fight, more likely, he's gonna have to ground a pound guy. So I all right, well fucking ground a pound of me.

Don't knock my fucking teeth out. I said, well, he did not have a tea that but gave him a fucking lip or a nice bus. And then because of the culture, right, I had to go do a fucking podcast right after I, you know, camera ready, got to be pretty. I'm like putting a fucking tissue on my lip.

And he's like, oh, you need a tissue on my five. Any other fucking situation. I would have smashed a book. God, bless his heart.

All right. So let's let's let's go through it. May him. So the last time we saw you, I think was at a Sirius XM studio.

No, I saw Ellis. I was in dry way of doing burnouts. He said, he said, he said, the last time was from you was on Sirius XM. You were in the last studio.

Yeah. Yeah. I believe so. Yeah.

So so I've been great. Michael for what I think I'm gonna say shut up and I'm gonna do this. Yeah. So you you went to prison a bunch of times.

There was a lot of bad stuff that happened. Yeah. There was the jail prison. Yeah.

Yeah. I did a few. I did a few kids. Yeah.

And then turned around and they put me over there and I, yeah, you know, let's get back a little bit further. So we were hanging out all the time. Billy Beet down got real big. Yeah.

Yeah. You started acting differently. Yeah. Yeah.

And I talked to you a couple of times, one time a voter spy where I was like, Hey, man, like what's really going on? And what I got back from you, you probably don't remember. But to me, it wasn't right. Like I was like, that doesn't, you know, I don't think you hear what I'm saying to you're like, no, bro, trust me, it's all good.

I'm this and I'm that. And I'm like, okay, it didn't seem good. And then I think it was an Elisimania where you came and you had my motocross helmet on. And again, you were like, I'm used to you being crazy, but you were scared to me up to the next left look, Hollywood doc, right?

Not even Hollywood, Orange County, right? They got ADD take this pill. And then suddenly my brain is on fucking fire. And I'm like, Whoa, let's go crazy.

Like, I all my ideas. Now I'm trying to do every idea, every, you know, and nonstop. And you know, the beginning of that, everybody liked me, it was cool. I was talking joke after joke after joke.

Everything that I like to do got turned up to 11 suddenly, you know, like the drink. No, no, I love to drink. I love to drink. I like to have to roll everything.

Everything we think we're cool, dude. But at one point, I was like, Hey, man, like we're cool. But we're also human. And you're like, pretty sure I'm not like that's scary.

You need to still be human. Not here. Why I was not I was not I remember a foggy haze of you talking to me and me spout back like it. It came out of my chat.

I tried. Yeah, I know everybody tried it. But when someone's turned up to that level and not only that has the, you know, kind of genocide where there's like a lot of people around and supporting that. They don't even care.

They like your friends. Hey, friend, the posse. You know, the posse. So, you know, it's a classic Hollywood trope of, you know, it got a whole group around you.

Someone. Oh, what? Oh, do you need your medication? Oh, don't worry.

We're gonna get your medication. Let's take you to the doctor. He'll write the script. So now you have like a constant feedback loop of yeah, yeah, you can cycle you get busted, go to jail, you bail out.

Everyone's there waiting for you. Ma'am's back. Yeah, Jesus. And then you have the girls that are just constantly in that and it's a recipe for disaster.

I've been I've been I've been I've been I've been I've been I've been big. Rio ch on Elle's is good, though. Yeah. He was fucking friends, man.

Like that was a real thing. Like the arrow back there. That was fun. I loved everything he said.

I was like, here we go. Whatever it is. It's like, yes, I will live by that. It was why because it was like, oh, you never heard the classic, uh, maybe boring speech.

Okay. Okay. All right. I'll just leave that for Patreon or something.

I don't know. Oh, man. So, okay. So you go to jail and prison a lot.

But when you came out the time where I was like, you know, because you did some stuff for us like that, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna associate with you if you're gonna do stuff like that. And if you're not gonna be apologetic about it, that's that's a big red flag for me. But you came back out and you were sober and you were on the right path. And I said to you, you keep going this way.

I'm gonna stick by you because people deserve second chances. Third as well. God knows I have been given a lot of chances. So how can I be a guy that doesn't give other people chances?

But then you smoked weed. Yeah, but something something happened that doesn't happen to normal people where I was like, okay, you're scaring me. Like, and I was I scared. And especially you, I know you.

But I was like, whoa, dude, and I was scaring up for me to not say, hey, you're scaring me because I was like something's up. And then you went off and did some weird shit again. And the last time I saw you, you came to my house and I went out on the balcony. I was like, no, get out of here.

We're done, dude. And then you disappeared. And then I think you went to jail again. I went to jail when the prison like, look, I was again, you know, you like leave that Hollywoodish kind of behind.

But then you get somehow it finds you again. I would commiserate with a lady and that lady would have those pills and that lady would give me those and then you know, and I fell into it. I go into it. A lot of people get into drugs like prescription drugs turned into, well, if you can't give me any more than I'll get something else.

It does it. Obviously, I've been watching dude, like, and I'm like slowly but surely I'm like, you keep going. I'm gonna reach out because it looks good. To me, like, I'm sober.

I got my shit together. But I only got my shit together because I hit rock bottom. Everybody left me the people that I care about. And then I was stuck with the posse where I was like, none of these people care about me.

I lost even my posse, bro. I was like, yeah. Okay. So there you go.

Yeah. One point I was like, man, these people were never my friends. They left me and then I looked back and I fixed myself. Worked to myself.

I was like, well, they just could tolerate my bullshit anymore. Even the fake friends left. That's how annoying it was. That's how bad it is.

So you can rock what was your rock bottom? Buddy, I fucking done with the girl sleeping on a mattress, like random in the street, wake up at like six in the morning, still holding onto a suitcase, dragging the suitcase, I said fuck, what was in the suitcase? I got like clothes and like, I don't know, assorted bullshit of a drunken man fucking quickly because I'm leaving. I'll fuck you.

I'm out. And I was dragging that thing around. Some I called somebody like, I don't know where to go. I don't know where to go.

I want to check into rehab. And they sent me to this like, hope, house or some kind of. Yeah, don't turn. They sent me there.

And I showed up 30 minutes after I closed. And I was like, ah, son of a bitch, hung over like her. Like, God, fuck it, whatever. I'll just, I'll come back tomorrow.

And I dragged my suitcase down there and down another block to fucking skid, bro. Like Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, being hunted by separate groups of black dudes that are like ready to rob me. Like you're a sweet cunt. You know, for my, for my, you know, really have, you can have it.

Yeah, you guys get with Jenk, Jim shorts. But yeah, and I realized that moments like you were going to get you a train. I'm going to trade. But you know, but, but you know, I thought of just in case there's a gym getting the idea of kelira.

You know, that is a constant of my life. I would be getting fucked up and still smart and everybody fight everybody drunk. It was a weird time of my life. It doesn't seem weird to me.

Like the sparring thing is like, like I'm 53. I spot. Okay. People like you shouldn't do that.

I, I, it completes me. No book. I think that, um, at that stage, like that triggered something in my head. Okay, fine.

I'm fucking doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Doing what?

Getting it together. Like, I mean, you've had that over it feeling before. No, no, I always had a safety net. Oh, I had some check that was that, you know what I mean?

I'll get into messing with her and then she'll like be waiting at the jail to pick me up, you know, like, I love you so much in just a constant back and forth toxic relationship. They're using as well, right? Yeah. So it's like, man, I always had a safety net.

This time I cut all my strings. I was just free falling and I was like, Oh, this is how it's going to be. And then cops picked me up. I went to, I went to rehab, went straight, I went straight in there and just like said, okay, let me give him a shit.

And look, I want, I was changing my mind as the first like month of it, the first couple weeks. I was changing my mind. I was like, yo, this is fuck this. I don't know how to spot is the stop.

I don't need this. I got to get it together. I can go fine. So a little weird.

Yeah. Like take the, here's my analogy of this. You go into a cave, you get dropped into a cave. This is really where the deeper you get, the darker it gets.

And he gets, if you can't see your hand in front of your own face, you start to imagine that there's some scary shit out there. And if you smoke a little weed or you drink or you have sex with some random, it pulls you out a little bit and you see the light a little bit, you feel safer again. Yeah. So like, but if you don't take it and you keep going in there, darker and darker, but then you stay and you sit with it in the dark, your eyes will adjust and you realize that there's nothing to be afraid of.

But that first initial descent, you're like, something feels wrong. I should get a little bit, just a little bit like, you know, you would mean like a little bit means give it a day and it's going to be everything like there's no, there is no little bit. That's why I have to be like this, because like, I can't not do everything. Like Mayor Scenario.

So you went to rehab. So what was that? How long ago we talked about? Like when I was been a couple of years, they like went by quick to always start to like being clear headed and not drinking or anything is like would be like life would go so slow, but nah, it's been yeah, morning, morning, year, morning, year, and yeah, morning, year now, and you know, time just keeps flying by and more.

The problem I had was I could never get out of that rolling snowball of bullshit because I kept getting back into it kept going, oh, fuck, I'm drinking then on I'm gonna bar fight. Oh, fuck. The more you work on it, the more it tries to pull you back. Yeah, but here's the opposite.

I got the fucking rolling ball of sunshine now, where everything keeps going good. And then let's call me back. Oh, shit. And then, you know what I mean?

I have this new job got this new sponsor. Oh, shit. And it's rolling and rolling. And you know, I'm telling the kids, I don't do that.

Get up out of it. And that somehow adds to this rolling ball of sunshine. And now life is happier and happier all the time. I didn't think you could get this way.

That's why I kept falling back into the old ways, because always I get fucked up and talk shit with your friends as a blast. Oh, maybe you'll go to jail, but maybe you'll fucking not. And you're out over another day. Now I don't got to worry about all that.

Now I'm just my freedom is out there. People that are in bad situations and had bad lives don't want to hear it from somebody that hasn't been there. I saw a veteran on Saturdays and a lot of them they've seen some shit. There's no shit.

I'm like, you know what a veteran's man. You know, I work with the emergent veterans and players. It's a, it's basically like, you know, tough guy support group where we meet and kind of share experiences. A lot of guys been through war, peace, and death.

And it's a I'm going next weekend to their gala. It's like I'm up for an award for helping the helping the military. So I'm like, I feel very blessed about that. I got to talk to your guys about that.

Yeah, I go every Saturday and walk with all these guys and tell them to stop doing a Philly shuffle and stuff. But I let them, I let them go at me like, yeah, because they want to bang, you know, I'm like, first let's work on technique. Then you get a little technique, then you can, you know, go out, have to try to take my head off because that's really what they want to do for a fling. But they're good people, but they're misunderstood.

Like there's a trigger in them like you poke, they go, you know, and it's like, he's a crazy wild person. I'm like, he's not a crazy, crazy, wild person. He's just like, shell shocked. And he's like, you push him.

He's, I'm gonna survive. He's a human being. And he's responding to the stimulus that he is ingesting. So you, you held him in rehab.

Three months, huh? Like a full ride program? No, no, not like this. I know you're talking about, but yeah, I'm like, have therapeutic outlets.

Like I know, I know. Come on. I didn't say anything. All right.

You get your heart, your heart, your heart, but you grow three sides. I feel you, bro. So yeah, I'm thinking you know, you should probably go. You want to come with me?

All right, let's go. It wouldn't hurt. It wouldn't hurt. Yeah, especially just to have it in the back.

It's like, having some extra weapons if you get pulled into deep water. The best thing is to have like, I have support now because of MVP and because of like the people around me now. What's the NBA? Oh, merger veterans and players.

Okay. It's the charity. But because of them, because of the people around me now that I choose to send myself with nobody, no drug people around really. So it's no need to, you know, go off the beaten path and my life is regimented.

I have dudes that rely on me as a coach, you know, what Jim, you'll come fight science and forge f or j two gyms, two gyms. Yeah, I, you know, I look after guys, the conditioning circuits are over at forge. And then a lot of the donuts has made a fight science because we got good sparring in there. Yeah, kind of a smaller cage.

So you're a force to get in there and mix it up. And it's good. Yeah. Yeah.

So everybody that thinks they're going to stick and move is full of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

You know, that's exactly yeah. But yeah. So fight science Ian Ian. Oh, dude, I go away, but he's a neighbor.

Yeah. Wonderful. Great. Yeah.

Was there a fight science in Temecula? No, I don't know about that. A long time ago, because I think that, you know, before I went to Team Quest, I went to a gym down the road that was, I believe, cold to fight science might have been, yeah. No, I know that you trade me for my last box match in Elismeña.

Yeah. Oh, you want that? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He is great, man. We get after it over there. The boys are just beasts and, you know, it keeps me on this, uh, positive mindset where look, somebody else is looking. I mean, someone else needs me.

I got to show up. Yeah. And then I'm over there at the out of Grohlishow doing the damn news every day. How did that happen?

You know, I'm not sure exactly, but I got to be honest with you. But I think that Adam just remembered me from back in the day, like doing promos for bully or doing promos. I I fudge you, mate. Again, we met.

I mean, we were you a guest? I was a guest, my bad. Okay. I was a guest.

So you got to be on. Yeah. And he found that to be entertaining and then offered you a gig. Yes, I know.

I know. Take it. Yeah. I know.

It's a bad ass job. And it's like, very interesting. This guy is like fucking too smart for his own good sort of, you know what I mean? Like, like his, he's got to be torturous to know as much as he knows and understand much of the understand sort of, I'm just like happy and ignorant a lot of time.

But this guy is on the news, taking in all the latest, whatever. And he it fills him with some angst, which he puts out. It's a awesome creative rants. It seems painful.

But yeah, but to be geared up, and especially, look, your whole life, you've been known as the complaint about stuff guy. So you better be complaining about stuff. I just think that it's tough to do. It's tough to do to stay in that.

If I'm going to complain about something, I have to get fired up. And so he lives in that state of fire. You're right. Oh my God.

That just made me sad. He's fired up. I know I look up to him a lot, because I want to figure out how to make these creative, his coherent points. But I don't want to be in that gear.

I like to go to the gym go 1000. And then last night I did the conditioning circuit with the guys. And I was thinking about you guys, like, I was like, ah, do that. Let's try tomorrow.

And now go. Now go. See, it kind of seems like there's two different forms of that. Because like I hear Conan O'Brien, a lot of people say they're like, he does the show every waking moment of the day.

He just happens to be in front of a micro camera so many hours, whereas like Howard Stern, I think, bless it all out. And then he wants to go back and turn it all off and hang out in his cave for a while. And I think you're a little bit more like like that, Jason. I feel like Corolla.

I remember we had him guest host when I was in the Carson Daily Show a million years ago. You could stick him in front of a microphone. And all of a sudden he was like, wow, you just became Adam Corolla. I think he could probably do a 10 hour daily podcast, which is I think I am not it's not mine to judge the inner workings of Adam Corolla.

I don't know how many people could be very happy when they actually have a really high level radio show happening in their head every week. Believe it or not. Show about how bad the world is. Yeah.

There's outside to that. Yeah. Yeah. I hope he makes a lot of money.

He kind of got it with retire. I don't know why. How why when I look to me, there's a time there where like I think, you know, I could be wrong because I never know. But I'm always looking for because I've always just been at war with myself.

And I'm like, if I can find peace, then I would like to like, I mean, the horses now, like they're very relaxing to me and I never would have thought that I'd be interested in something like that, you know, and find and skating. Like I'm getting old. It's getting, you know, I don't know. I'm already, I'm already amazed that I still can do whatever.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I would have said 10 years ago there, 53, I'd be like, all right. So what do I just like watch TV after? You know, I'd be like to know that I can still like I smart a 14 year old last night and he was fast as shit.

And I was like, like, and even a couple of other black guys, I was like, dang, man, you smooth like that. And I was like, I don't think anybody's ever referred to my fighting skills as smooth like that. But because I'm still working, I'm working on my craft that it's still, my body is still like, you can learn something. I know your body's holding up.

Yeah, it's beautiful. Take care. I think there's so much abuse at one point that your body was still showing up. And now yes, there's a decade of like just the years that have like, worn me down.

But I'm also completely coherent sober and healthy and I eat, right? Like there was never a time like, I ate right for a fight. Yeah, and I didn't have a lot of fights. So every other time I wasn't, I ate whatever I wanted, I'll be hiding like, yeah, that's great before bed.

That's good. I did December to remember last year, where I ate whatever I wanted all the time as an experiment, I get like 40 pounds. I got so funny. You got that for you, you're fat.

I got fat on purpose. You know, but then I was like, only lifting weights and just woofing. Whatever the hell I wanted. It was hilarious.

And then now I'm like, I got into January, then I got to fit February. I was doing it all like getting into your name. I already lost, yeah, I had my names down for it. And now I'm just in that general thing where you're eating vegetables, protein, and just living your life really clean.

And my body is just functioning at a high level. I think your brain works better. It does. Like I feel like it used to be like I like clean because I want my body to be jacked or fast.

And my brain works better without the clap. I've always been high. But my body, I think it's still like a year and a half of no weed or any of that stuff. My brain's still expanding.

Like I think I read. I do things now where I'm like, I never would have done that. Never. Because also I would try.

I've tried to read book for one of my own name. It's making me like I'm getting scrambled. But now I just read and I'm I reading and understanding the words in this book. What is happening lifestyle change?

Even comedy, like I haven't been in that long, but like I see people I think of jokes or how I'm going to shorten or what I should do next while I'm talking to somebody while I'm telling a joke. I'm like, there's like seven or eight different decisions happening in one second. Old me was just like, joke. That's it.

And I'm like, I'm not even sure what I just said. How's that going? You're on tour really coming up? We see the clips and shit is funny.

Yeah, I'm the deal where you're on a stage with the other guy, some other guy sometimes where you're like doing I don't know what you guys are doing. Yeah, you guys are both on stage and you're just like talking shit. It's not you, Tully. It's some other guy.

Don't you, honk? On stage. Oh, it might be the riff ref. Oh, the riff ref is like, uh, it's like there's things in the bucket.

You got to pull it out and make a joke out of whatever. Okay. And then the other bucket is like more of a stunt. I see sometimes those stunts bring another person up.

Oh, okay. So it's more of a it's a comedy show. It's called the riff ref. It's actually right up your alley right there.

Like for freestyle. Like the first guys were the first guys to have me as a regular like getting up at the comedy store and improv. They don't let scumbags like me get up. But I was a regular on the riff ref and it was at a smaller comedy place.

And then it got big enough to get booked at the comedy store. And now it's doing well, it's sold out every month. So now it's uh, fortnight is every two weeks. So I have a regular spot.

And then now I'm friends with me coming up doing a show at the Comedy Store tonight. Like I it's a little bit by little bit and now you know, I got a tour. I mean, Chicago and and and and and where my Nashville and in Miami and then I'm going to Canada. So now I'm like on the road a lot.

Like it's still I'm not on the road every weekend like the big dogs. But it's it's getting there. Like you're accumulating that and like, you know, because the comedy club audience is different than the internet audience. So you're just developing your own.

I do have more weight than the average guy that's putting in more work than me because I have a radio show. I had a radio show where there's a lot of people that come to my shows around America that are like, I still love your show and I still have a show. A lot of serious people don't understand podcasting, which is fair. But they might because my social media is pretty decent.

People I sell tickets. So I'm very lucky, man, because being in the game for only five years and being a and being a headliner and actually having people show up, it's really hard to do. No, I know people that sell tickets. They're like this household name thing.

I know. And then there's the rest of us, you know, it's like Whitney Cummings and you know, like Bill Burt. Yeah, yeah. But they sell that everywhere.

And then you're you know, I mean, the guys that come up with them, if they were headline and would not be a good idea. Like they come and be like, you sold five tickets, you know, it's really that it's such a strange economy of that weird. Yeah, it's like some people just ascending. They're just exploding on sheep.

Like you see, everybody's talking about white lotus. Everybody's gonna watch white lotus because everybody talks about what you watch. I'm like, Hey, I got caught up in my store. I was like, you know, I got to get a tattoo tattoo pile that's talking about I'm like tattoo people.

And then I met the gym and they're like, Hey, let's let some my people. And then I see your dumb ass. And I'm like, okay, okay, I will sheep on. I will tell you why I jumped on that because I look, I went to prison.

I didn't have a chance to be part of stuff. All those trends that you guys were happily being a part of or lambasting. I was not a part of that I was watching NBC. Saturday Night Live was the only thing that I really could get looked forward to.

Oh, Saturday Night Live. You missed Tiger King. Tiger King. I got and then got busted right after.

So that was floating around my head during that term. That's good. What other shows are in prison? Everybody, people steal the remote and just basically watch the channels that have YouTube videos on.

It's called, I don't even remember. They're stuck in social media as well. Well, no, but it's just somebody stole all this social media of bloopers of people falling down. And it was just, I just called it, I forget what the show is called, but I just called it people falling down.

Like ridiculous for prison. But no, there's no break where people are making jokes. It's just clip after clip after clip on people falling down. That sounds like a fun time.

I really like one of my favorite things to watch people slamming over and over. But I'll tell you this, I was in a charge of the gym. And when you're in charge of the gym, you're in a gym. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So 1942. Every time it rain, I had to fucking squeegee out an entire swimming pool of water.

No, no, no, no, Matt's heavy bag, fucking speed bag. Yeah. Kind of stuck in 1942. It was from 42.

Yeah. That's how it was. Yeah. They had pictures of Haman Ali and Jack Dempsey.

They had they painted up there in the 60s or 70s. I don't know, retouched in the 80s. Yeah. It was a bizarre place.

But it had DVDs like for the different mods. So I would take a bunch of DVDs and welcome to each individual pod they call it and hand DVDs to each. So I get to watch Top Gun to Matt. I was part of that.

Well, very far, far away. So it sounds like to keep yourself from getting beat up by the various races you trained each of them to beat each other up more effectively. Unfortunately, yes. I like literally see any of your work.

I get a train again with this one guy Johnny Boy. It was like notorious motorcycle thief. Yeah, he's like a crazy like, you know, skinhead. I'm not skinner.

Area guy. Whatever. That pretty much sums it up. Yeah.

You get it. And he was like, man, I'm going to train. All right. Cool.

So all right. Go do this. So for like a week or two, he like just did like a couple of hooks, up a guy hooks and step around, up a guy hooks. And then somebody owed a drug that he just went in there and up a guy hook the guy.

So you must have been proud. Damn. I'm proud. Oh, man.

So anybody in there that you would be inclined to keep in touch with out here? No, no, I mean, that was a direct. They did hear that. Now because you you're in a position.

I mean, you blew it. Hard. Yeah. A bunch of times.

Of course. Of course. This is the this is I'm blown at this time. No.

This is it. Well, you see great dude. Your brain is I see you working. The fire is not worried about it.

I'm paying attention. You know, and I just like right now, my only stress is to get to Corollas, you know, I, you know, I have like a weird a responsible mayhem. Yeah. Always.

I need to say weird. Yeah. You have your responsibility. Okay.

Yeah. Responsible mayhem is here. Yeah. Maybe responsible Jason.

Okay. Jason's fine. But everyone call me mayhem. You know, I got a lot of things going on.

Yeah, you weren't that. You worked out for that. You deserve it. But now I'm like a mayhem over at Japan, like I got a bunch of people that have a piece of a Hello Kitty store.

And I don't know how the tariffs are going to affect us. Wait, what? Yeah. I like I'm a business in Japan.

Yeah. It's in Japan. No, no, it's here in Los Angeles on you own a piece of it on yeah, on La Brea and third by the fader, Joe's. It's a Japanese pop culture story.

Yeah. So you post yeah. So I have a piece of that and we're happy to announce that Hello Kitty is 10% off. Wow.

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