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Maz Jobrani and Justin Martindale gotta go to Ibiza

from Jason Ellis 2.0 · host Jason Ellis

Comedians Maz Jobrani and Justin Martindale join Jason to discuss Why Justin is Tully, Jason Can Sing, Goddamn Comedy Jam, Jason’s band, Bob Dylan, Henry Rollins had a good June, Jimmy Vestvood, Alluah Akbar Guy, Movie Making, Jeremy Strong, Comedy Specials, Regional jokes, Crowd Work, Dice, Edging, Logan Paul, Bringing People up, Bezos, Billionaires, and Olympic transvegation Visit BetterHelp.com/ELLIS today to get 10% off your first month. Jason’s Dates at thejasonellis.com Learn How To Skate, No Matter What Age You Are. Out Now https://fathergrind.com/ Sponsor The Jason Ellis Show: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/jasonellis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Comedians Maz Jobrani and Justin Martindale join Jason to discuss Why Justin is Tully, Jason Can Sing, Goddamn Comedy Jam, Jason’s band, Bob Dylan, Henry Rollins had a good June, Jimmy Vestvood, Alluah Akbar Guy, Movie Making, Jeremy Strong, Comedy Specials, Regional jokes, Crowd Work, Dice, Edging, Logan Paul, Bringing People up, Bezos, Billionaires, and Olympic transvegation Visit BetterHelp.com/ELLIS today to get 10% off your first month. Jason’s Dates at thejasonellis.com Learn How To Skate, No Matter What Age You Are. Out Now https://fathergrind.com/ Sponsor The Jason Ellis Show: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/jasonellis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Make sure it's not pointed at my guess. I have to sing at the start. Don't be alarmed. I would have it no other way.

You warmed up? Are you? I don't do that. I feel like if you were a good singer that maybe you would do that.

If I warmed up and sang the way I sing, it would be like, why did you do that? Very misleading. But I do a Patreon show after this show. The second time I do the intro is usually better.

I wonder if I, it's because I warmed up. Maybe I should. But no, I will not. I refuse to do that.

King of the West, the West Coast cowboy. Justin Mandel, your headphones are right next to your elbow over there and you're reaching for someone else's headphones. You just got here and you are in the Tully seat and you don't, usually you're not Tully. Wait.

Or am I? No. If you're those are kids. So Justin Mandel is here.

He's in Ireland and then Ibiza and he bitches. He bitched to me about going to Ibiza. And I'm like, dude, I don't want to hear it. It's like, oh somebody's waiting.

I have to go. And it's a lot of money that I can't afford. And I'm like, yeah, but you can because you've got the money and you are going. So I don't want to, you can't say I'm going there with a frowny face.

Let's go to Ibiza to work on like a highway crew. Then you can bitch about it. I'm sorry. Ibiza.

I won't. Highway crew. I mean, Highway crew. Miles Shabroni is here as well as our guest.

Thank you Miles. I mean, I was thinking it was amazing. That was, you said you can sing. You can sing.

That was good. It was good. I mean, it was no wicked. But yeah, you're doing what you can do.

Yeah. You weren't like, oh, I'm going to sing Sia and you weren't there. That was great. Yeah.

If I was to do like somebody with vocal ability, like a cover, then you would be like, ah, you can't. Yeah. If it's like medally, it's like a good metal. Did a good job.

Addressive James, like a Metallica thing. Did a good job. Pretty good. Yeah.

You guys, have you both done the goddamn comedy jam? Yeah. Wait, what happened? You haven't.

You haven't. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't.

You're shaking his boots. Yeah. Oh, I pitched myself to him and he was like, yeah, sounds good. Oh, well, that sounds all right.

Yeah, it's not enough. It's not enough. That's usually what everybody says. But it's great as though.

It's like you were saying it, because in my mind, I sound one way. Yeah. And then when I listened to the recording, I'm like, oh, I didn't sound. I sounded way different.

You turned deaf. I just think somehow I think I'm delusional. It's also, I mean, yeah, that's comedy. That's comedy, right?

That's why we do comedy. Comedy is like 99% confidence. Yeah. You have to do it.

Confidence and timing. It does go a long way. Do you know what song you were singing if you did do the jam? I never really thought about it until right now.

But I mean, I can do, I mean, I was in a band. So the first band I was in, we did a lot of Metallica covers. So I can do a lot of Metallica. Okay.

So the next time you see Josh out of Myers, you'd be like, um, I was in a band. Lee with that. Yeah. And also the other thing that I, now you were in a band and you were the lead singer of the band?

Yeah. Because this is what every time I do the goddamn comedy jam, I jump around stage for three minutes singing my song. Yeah. And I go, I cannot imagine doing this for an hour plus.

It's funny because there's been times in my life where I wasn't sober and I was rocking out. I did a, I did a, an Aussie cover with the bass player of Aussie who was a, he, a blast go who, he was a, he listened to the show and he called in and was like, Hey man, I can play bass for that song if you want. I was like, the actual bass player of the actual song. I love it.

Yeah. And then one time we played at the, at the, was it the Roxy? Yeah. The Roxy.

And he goes, Hey man, the drummer is here and he wants to play. Would that be cool? You're slowly putting the band back together. Yeah.

Everybody was there except Aussie. And I was like, this is too much pressure because I know the drummer and the bass player are like, he's a little off. Yeah. But, but it was, I just remember when it started because my job was a good drummer.

My place was a good place player. But when it started before I sang, I remember going, okay, that guy's really good. Yeah. Like it was a whole different, because I've done this song like several times.

But how do you do, how do you do like an hour set? So if you're, if you're a singer yourself, do you then go like, let's break it down for a minute, ladies and gentlemen, and it's a hard work. I know you do. The song reminds me of my time at Beetha.

There's a certain kind of dance where if you do that, you realize pretty quick you better stop doing that. Yeah. Because all of a sudden you're huffing and puffing and if you're huffing and puffing and you've got a scream, then it's just not going to come. Every time I do the God in Comedy Jam, whatever song I'm singing, I ampe it up at the end.

I just did it in the air tonight. Oh, wow. Slow song. Yeah.

And then it's not going fast. So I said guys, because I don't really know where we're going to finish it. I said, let's just, at one point, just start going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm jumping up and down. I almost have a heart attack.

I'm like, I don't know how, but like you said, now I know you've got to bring it down afterwards. I've seen this show several times. Fun, straight. I've been at Skankfest.

I've witnessed a lot of people seeing in those instances and I've also had, when I had my band, I had other people that I was like, come see a song with this and I've seen them get tired and because that's what I was going to bring up the Aussie thing is because I really rocked out. I was crazy trained and I really rocked out because the bass player of Aussie was there and at one point I was like, oh, oh no, I've over rocked. Was it an hour performance? Yeah, but it was just that one song where at the start I was rocking out so hard that when I was like, you've over rocked yourself, Jason.

And now you have no lungs left to sing the song. So it's like a bad decision. It's pacing and it's probably like, I always think of Mick Jagger who's the same age by the way as Joe Biden. Yeah.

And you go, how does that guy? Yeah, that is. And he's doing it. And you got to think like who quit Coke first?

It was Joe, right? Yeah, I assume. I think Jagger still did a couple of key bumps like last year and he can still, that doesn't make sense. I just saw Willie Nelson, John Cooper, Melon Camp and who was the, and Bob Dylan.

Where was that? The ball. Oh my God. Still doing it.

But even those guys, like, you know, like Willie and those, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're sitting and playing. Yeah, he's going around to the chicken. You know, she's my little rock and a row.

He's still doing it. Yeah, Bob Dylan was not moving, right? He was not moving and there was a lot of candlelight. There was like, there was like, maybe like some Edison bulbs behind him.

Did he build a powder on his face? Because that was a great arrow. It was, it looks great. It looks great.

I was a man. I was there for, because I'm one of those people that got into heavy metal and then heavy metal showed me 60s rock. Oh, yeah. where I was like, Jimmy Henryks and Jimmy Henryks had a cover of Bob Dylan.

I go, I go, oh, okay. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm playing it. Right. And then I get into Bob Dylan in my brain.

It's like, whoa, I had no idea. And now I'm kind of into folk music accidentally, even though Metallica was an AC-DC were my intro. Yeah. And then I'm like, wait, Bob Dylan's a legend.

Yeah. And then I'm looking at all these photos and I'm like, wait, at one point, Bob Dylan completely covered his face in white powder was just like, hey, I'm like, whoa. Like a French mine. Yeah.

He was tripping balls. He was just sitting in a chair. I mean, he was doing his thing. I don't, I think halfway through his set, we all were kind of like, just let him.

You know what I'm funny. We're like, good for you. Yeah. Somebody said that he saw Billy Joel in the crowd or something like that.

And he was like, what song do you want? And he suggested a song and Bob Dylan said, I already played that. As he didn't know, like nobody knew what was happening. That's funny.

Because it's just one run on sentence, really. He is the greatest radio DJ that ever lived. Bob Dylan? When I was on, when I was on satellite radio, Bob Dylan was paid to be a DJ.

I don't know how or what the hell they, how they did it. But he would play, first of all, the most obscure music from the 30s and stuff like that. But he knew so much about it. He would go into this crazy detail about the guy or how he caught a bus one time and he played.

This is skilley beddity. He got a mix on skilley beddity. That's exactly it. It's definitely too.

The way he flowed it was, because I prided myself on, I was a DJ before I was a host of a radio show and I was like, okay, this guy is the best DJ I've ever heard. And I was a fan of his show. I'm always shocked at how much knowledge people have about music and albums. Like, you ever listen to Henry Rollins when he does his?

Yeah, but that's somebody that did his research. Yeah, I mean, he's, but there's a genius brain. I know some songs and I know some lyrics to songs. But if you ask me what album is that?

What was the year? I don't know any of that crap. I've been reading books and I didn't even know who the author was. Oh, I like that with movies.

Yeah. Like when people go, do you love this director? I'm like, I don't know. Who is that?

Like, dude, you make like this film, this film, this film. I'm like, cool. I like Keanu Reeves, you know, like, because he's in the movie. I don't care who directed it.

I've just, the name doesn't seem to care, you know, or who produced the album. I'm like, cool. But what you learn, like, I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I was that person. I wish sometimes I hear like a sponge just like knowing the specific is what you do.

Then you go, oh, oh, a good producer does make a difference. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's very true.

Right? It's all production now. Production or the director or the person who continuously like, there was a moment there where I was doing it with movies. I was like, I'm just going to go watch Sidney Pollock movies.

And then I'm going to go, and then that would lead me to be like, oh, there's Robert Reffers in a lot of them. I'm going to go now watch all these Robert Reffer movies. And now I'm going to go, I would just go down this thing and go, oh, this person is really good at a lot of the stuff that they do. And you start realizing that there's artists and they have a voice.

You know what I'm saying? Because otherwise you just all over the place. You just think something. You don't know what it is.

So I admire people who are that knowledgeable about a lot of stuff. Yeah, I think Henry Rollins is one of those people who I wouldn't say he's a gifted musician. Still hot though. But he, oh yeah?

Yeah, it's still hot. That's Henry Rollins? That's interesting to hear from the gay angle. Yeah, can still get it.

Do you think he's gay? No, but I think he's like, would it had a good June? Yeah. Wow.

You always have the best version of how to explain somebody blue somebody. So cool. You know what? He's good looking at his bed.

He's cute. He's like muscly and he's not as bad as anyone. He's not as bad as anyone. Nice.

Oh, he's not? Wow. Wait, a body shame. Henry Rollins.

Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah. He's still a good, he's still a cool guy.

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I don't know if it was after Toby died or not because that would have been a little colder. It was just like how would a hypocrite or more? Oh, really? It's been a really intelligent guy.

He's a really smart guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you know how he got into Black Flag? I don't know if this is true or not. The singer was not there or sick or he got up there and was like, I'll do it. And then took the band.

Took out. Oh, wow. Some kind of story. I don't know if that's the full truth.

McCone, do you know much more about it? I got his letter to Toby Keith right here. It's pretty cool. But it was written before he died.

Okay. So it's not as cold as I thought. It was like, nang, two months ago. I thought this came out and I was like, nang, that's harsh.

But don't you think that at some point your music loses its sav in the wound potency by merely pointing out the truth? And does it ever occur to you that perhaps you're making a good living off the fact that a lot of people don't, a little near OSK, don't you think? If it were me, I would want to be part of changing their situation rather than suggesting they just do their 40 hours for the man and then go get fucked up and then providing the soundtrack for their beer soap self-destruction. Nice.

Well done. Yeah. He's very smart. He is.

I was just focused on him cutting himself with the knife. And I was like, he needs to wash his hands before serving that food. Yeah. But also season four of the bear, Henry Rollins.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of random footage.

Yeah. I was like, he's a bus boy. Just because the speed with which he was cutting shows he wasn't really a professional. I mean, not that I could.

I'm not good at speed cutting either. You know a good chef? I'm not a good chef. You haven't done a lot of cooking in your life?

You know, I surprised when I when I delve into it sometimes I try it comes out pretty good. You are a cooker of sorts like you cook for a family. Eggs. Eggs.

I'm not a big. It goes back to I really feel like I am. I don't know what happened. Maybe I got dropped on the head when I was a kid.

I'm just not. I'm not. Maybe I don't have focus. The only thing I'm actually focused on.

Maybe you don't have focus. Well, I'm going to say the only focus on in my life is comedy because that was like, oh, you got to go do 15 minutes at a time or 45 minutes. Whatever that is. I actually like I remember seeing this girl in New York through this bit and she was very funny.

She was doing her bit and then she turns out she goes, you know, I have ADHD and then she's like looking at the wall behind her. She's touching the wall. They said, for example, like, I don't even want to talk to you. I'm curious about this wall right now.

I was sitting there. I was like, I'm kind of like that because I'm not here to say that I was able to actually find out my own medical condition. But I do know what I do shows and I don't know if you guys are the same. I am constantly seeing I'm distracted by the audience members and stuff.

I've had to teach myself to focus and not get distracted. If somebody gets up to go pee, I have a hard time not being like, hey, where are you going? What's going on? Or something happens.

I have a hard time. I was like, maybe I have some level of that. That's why I'm saying to think about focusing. Sometimes I have a hard time.

Even when I'm riding with somebody, I need a riding partner and I'm up and walking around a lot rather than sitting. I'm doing that. What's it like riding with a partner? Never stand up.

I'm talking about a script. Usually what will happen is I'll find somebody who's cool with doing a lot of the writing and actually formatting as we go. Of course, I don't want to feel like I'm going to be a pick about it. At a certain point I say, oh, let me do that.

I'm all for, if I'm covered up with the dialogue and stuff, just keep going. Is it ever where you both, what about this and then they go that and then you go this and you guys layer over layer? Absolutely. That's part of it.

I guess that's what a writing would be. For example, I wrote a movie with a friend of mine and we had the idea and we'd come up with certain things. I did a movie on my satellite show promoting it. Was I back then?

A long time ago. Oh my God. Thanks for having me on, man. Full circle.

I remember going to a man making a movie. You're a hustler because making your own movie is like, dude, and being a, you already got a career and you're like, hey, I got a movie. I'm staring at it. I wrote it.

I'm like, okay. Yeah. That's a lot. I've never done it.

That's a lot. That's what I was saying because I stand up. That's the other thing about the beauty of the stand up is it's immediate. You get the results right then and there.

A movie. I got so much respect for filmmakers when I was done. Why? What am I doing?

I'm doing a hard thing to get from beginning. Like you finish the script and you go, oh my God, I'm so happy about this. We're done, right? And then they go no, money.

Oh, wait money. Okay. Well, let's do a crowdfunding. Oh, we got the money now.

We're done, right? No. No, no. You gotta go shoot it.

Oh my God. That was so much fun. We shot it. We're done, right?

No, you gotta go edit it. Oh my God. When I edited, the things I thought it was funny were funny and now the other things funny and then oh, great. Now, people are gonna see it, right?

Nope. It didn't make a ton of money, but what's interesting about it is we realize we need to create content When you stop put stuff out in the world it comes back to surprise you sometimes the movie was called Jimmy Vestwood American Hero which is basically like Mike my homage to like the pink panther I was a big fan of the pink panther and And there's scenes now from that movie that have ended up on social media and people will just circulate those scenes Yeah, and you know the storyline was there's this guy and Iran. He wants to go to America He wins the green card lottery. He loves America He comes to America and he wants to be like an American hero But the best job he can get is being a security guard and then he ends up in some like big Mysteries got to solve and he ends up being the hero.

It's all bumbling giddy shit, right? And in the in the movie early on in the movie There's a scene where my character's on the airplane with his mother because they've won the green card lottery They come to America and there's turbulence and the mother is like she's you know, they're from Iran So the mother's older and she's like oh, I walk by you know this thing is you know, she's like, you know Basically they're saying like God, you know save us and then there's this there's basically like an air marshal type Giving us the eye like you know, what do you guys up to? And I put my mom you can't say things like that You got to say things that these people are gonna like so then I turn to the guy I'm like hello I'm go Jesus Christ and then there's turbulence and then I go I'll go up by and then I pull the gun on me Anyway long story short is this fun little scene. All right that clip started going viral I like to talk to the boy where one time I was touring in in Europe and I'm flying back on a flight from Denmark Copenhagen And I'm supposed to go Copenhagen London London LA and the airline It said oh you got to check your bag and from Copenhagen then again in London Then London you gotta pick it up there and I was like this is all like can you guys just check it all the way?

Well, maybe they'll help you with the desk I go to the desk at like six in the morning and his dude is like doing his thing and I'm looking at him I'm like this guy's gotta be Middle Eastern. He looks like maybe he'll know me, you know I don't say anything at one point. He goes like this. He looks he goes.

You're you're a low up our guy, right? I go what? Yeah, I know the clip I go. Oh shit, and he hooked me up and he hooked it He set me, you know, my luggage went all the way through Thanks tiktok.

Yeah, I think at the end put that could have gone another way I love our guy Maz did you have fun making your movie because that's really you're actually filming it was that I had so much fun You know what's great about it was first of all because ours was small enough There was a lot of like oh hey, I'm doing a movie. Can you come be a part of it? Like you just said your friends to come in and do so so every day there was a new friend showing up and being a part of it We had a lot of like improv. We were very open to improv.

I mean I can't imagine making It would really suck and I get something where into this it would really suck to just have your filmmaking experience just be a Torturous and some were like oh my god. I got a you know, they're artists. You know what I'm saying? I gotta go to a Bza I Say like Daniel de Louis who's a brilliant obviously one of the best actors ever they say that he really like lives as that character I believe that though for that whole time.

I just why he retired. Yeah, I can't imagine doing that and the guy from Succession to oh yeah, yeah, yes. Yes. Yes who a lot of people say I look like him a little bit see that Yeah, what's his name?

I'm camera bro. Oh my god. Oh, yeah, is it Jeremy Jeremy Jeremy strong Yeah, Jeremy strong people say I look like him. Yeah, and we have a nose.

He looks like me. Yeah, you go and yeah There is you know, he's very good at acting method acting. Yeah, I don't know why you want to be torture yourself I mean, yeah, you don't have fun with doing what you're doing if you don't have fun then You have a new special out now though, right the birds and the bees the birds and the bees. Yeah, remember that yes Yes, it's new it's new it's not YouTube.

Okay, I filmed a special the comedy store Mm-hmm. I've had I've had seven specials now now. I'm not saying they're all like, you know historically You know top specials, but I just keep you know my life evolved so I talk about new stuff right and so I was ready and I had not done a special at a comedy club and that's where I got my start So we filmed it there at the comedy store and it was great I had a good time and we're about to hit 500,000 views So if you're why if you're on YouTube click it if you like it give it a thumbs up if you don't like it keep it Yourself, so I know I took mine there as well, but I mean special if you had just one that's so far, you know, okay But it was good, but I it's in Canada This is what it's in Canada. You can only watch it in Canada until like March and then like oh Okay, okay, okay.

Okay. It's new but you can get it in Canada right now You could watch it on out TV. Yeah in Canada. Yeah, and like some other places It was distributed in Canada and yeah, huh?

Huh, when did you do like two three years ago? Maybe and you can't get it he yet not yet. No, it'll be in March. Okay, you can get it March.

I hope you go pay Don't know why would I do that? No, but watch it. Yeah, it's fun. That was a good place.

I loved for I loved recording there Well specials, you know, there's such a it's such an obviously there's so many specials out there, right? And I think that I talked to so many people about shooting specials what to do what not to do Putting it on YouTube the good thing about putting it on YouTube is you have direct contact with your fans You see as the numbers go up you get cursed out sometimes we get a lot of love They really love you. They give you what's called a super thanks, which I know about to basically a tip What yeah, so we'll give you like 25 bucks. I really enjoyed it.

You get a super thanks Why do I feel like I haven't got a super thing? I should be giving a lot of super things. Yeah, I know that but yeah But it's actually a great way and ultimately as as comedians who tour you want people to discover you And I feel I feel that's one of the places where you can probably get most discovered as YouTube versus like obviously You're in Canada or or whatever these distributors put you out sometimes. It's not as conducive.

Yeah That's what I learned I was new, you know, but they just like that to you they do they were like Oh, we've got we got this, you know, this this company wants to get it and it's gonna be great I was like sure whatever all right and then yeah, like the fine print it was like it'll be available in 2025 But nowadays it really is about what you said about him cutting up his movie. It's about clips, right? Like you can get clips out Ultimately, it's I mean, that's just the word. This is all marketing Yeah, you know now if you're Dave Chappelle, they're gonna pay you a lot for it Mm-hmm, but if you're not Dave Chappelle or a handful of other people you're not gonna get that much of a payday regardless So you may as well just put it out there But the problem with putting it out there is by the way you better have material that's not out there for when it comes to you live Well, that's gonna work out for you Justin because you had four more years to work on it No, it's true though.

I mean, it's like that was all old stuff too. I'm like, all right. There you go once it comes out Yeah, it's out. Yeah mine's more, you know, I feel like what I've got is what I've got but then someone did say to me recently that They were like I came because I saw your comedy on YouTube and I'm like I don't have any comedy And they're like, hey, dude, and I'm like what and then they told me it's like you told this story about fighting Shane car when I go Oh, oh yeah I guess that was a part of my set when I first started and I never I like every time I come up with a new joke It's usually way better than the last one because I've only got a few jokes and I'm like, oh god What was I even thinking doing that one and now I still see myself as I can do it now.

No problem That's what I've got but now when somebody reminded me of this like two weekends ago I was like, oh, yeah I have another whole thing that I completely forgot about I think maybe because I hit my head on the ground a lot But also because I just don't even count that as Jokes because I thought I was so new that I don't think that that was a good idea to even have it on YouTube I think somebody else posted it well if you're able to do continuous Headlining appearances like if you're at some point you're like, okay, I'm gonna do whatever I don't know two three months in a row of every other weekend or whatever that is Yeah, we even get in together and then at some point you're like Oh, wow, this is the set like it because you'll see some of the stuff that you just said like you've got all that Let me try that old one that because nobody like you said it's not like you put it on a special yet So you have every right now to put it all together and create that special with the breadth of all the material you have You know up until now and sometimes you'll even do a special and you'll say oh wow I left that one joke out where you can hold that and start use that to start your next set Yeah, you know what I'm saying quite often it's like whenever I'm done with a special I'm watching and I'm like oh my god I need new stuff and then what I'll do is as I start bringing in new stuff I know I'm doing well when the the best jokes from the previous special aren't in my next like Set that I'm doing or next 50 because you do got to anchor a little bit Mm-hmm anchor it a little bit with that strong thing like when you do 15 20 minutes around town You always want to end with that strong joke You're like let me use that joke from the previous special But then once you're doing the 15 20 minutes and that joke's no longer in it You're like oh this is coming together again Wow, okay. Yeah, I found lately that I was telling my manager that like the first 20 minutes Is I just make stuff up and then I look at the time and I go oh I haven't got to my material And now it's happened so many times that I'm like don't bank on it Don't ever bank on that but I do walk out and I see somebody says something or I my thing is I learn it from TJ Miller He's like I walk around the town to sort of like get a vibe on the town. I do that too Yeah, so I love that my thing is the skate parks when I say I'm going somewhere They tell me that they've got a skate park so I go to the skate park and then I got a girlfriend and we're begin to go into rivers So if you've got a river or you've got a body of water I'm trying to go in that as well So I go to a skate park and I go to a body of water in your city I got stuff But because I always I'm definitely gonna eat shit at the skate park So I've got a story about that and then I'm gonna meet some crazy person with one tooth and like a really long hair coming off their neck And that's a story about that and then you know they go to the water hole There's a story about that and then somebody in the crowd's gonna go Oh, why would you even go there or do what oh that's the place and then I'm and then next thing You know I'm like okay 20 minutes. I haven't said any of my jokes I think a show I think performing is a dialogue.

It's not a monologue. It's kind of like you got it You said you talk to them Obviously you try to control that conversation I saw there was a special Richard Pryor film in Norleens and he like the first five minutes was his week of being there and again It wasn't material that necessarily he could have done in whatever New York But when he does in the special that crowd is loving him and then he goes let me take you on my journey And I think that's what you got to do so I think what you're doing is right Yeah, because it really is like I'm funny and I think the thing you said at the start where it's like the confidence in the timing I think now it's like at first It was like I I think I spent the first kind of couple of like where you're actually headlining saying to myself before I went out there I shouldn't be here like this is too much Yeah, I'm too soon for this and then I'm like oh you did really good and then again and again I'm like, you know, I should be here I know what I'm doing and then having that confidence going out there has made me that much better at my job It's no like and your fans are there to see you so that's the difference as well They're there to support you Yes, I'm like some Dick saying something but for the most part there to there to see you and the more you do it The more you start surprising yourself and it takes years like anything else like you know Like ten years in I remember going like oh pretty good at this and then 20 years and I was like, oh good You know, I kept I felt confident and there's and then they want to see that confidence on stage So I've had recently a couple of times this guy just like this guy walk out on my set was so funny And you know there might have been a time earlier in my career was like I know what to do but I just I turned it into this whole thing of I was really curious and I wasn't I wasn't defeated by it I was having fun with it. Yeah, and the guy literally he got up. It was at the ice house He got up and it was early my set.

I was just riffing I was just landing I hadn't even gotten my set yet And I'm just riffing off the guy before me and he grabbed his water bottle It was sort of the front He had this tall every on water bottle he grabs that and his girlfriend and they get up and they leave And I was like that's the weirdest thing ever seen like who gets pissed and is like I'm taking my water bottle And so and then I see was leaving I go what's going on? You okay? We got and he goes I don't like you and he left yeah And I was like what and then I turned the audience I was like guys if anyone wants to leave You don't have to tell me don't like just pretend like you're gonna bathroom Yeah, just that in my mind I'll be like I got my peeing for a while But you won't like I won't feel bad about it And then it became this whole riff and it was fun and the audience started having fun with me and that just comes from having done this 25 years Versus if that happened to me like a year in or something I never stated like and then I wouldn't even know how to bring it back Yeah, you're sort of saying hmm. I think the the my best thing that I have is from doing radio for 20 years Because I can tell talking to people is like talking to people on the phone And I've been doing that for over 20 years and this time I get to see you So like hearing somebody and understanding who I'm talking to just by getting audio from their voice I'm pretty good at that because I've been working I have a 20 years I can kind of tell who I'm talking to pretty quick But when you're doing stand up and you see them it's way easier to know who they are and what they're about like sometimes you have to say anything I know I kind of car you drive.

I know the music you listen to and they're like yeah, man I do have a truck like yeah, I know Jett ski yeah, how'd you know them like cuz I know you do like I've been around enough to know what people dress like and the things That they walk around with them when they carry on their haircuts what you're into it's also it's also again This all goes back to like listen. It's like anything, you know, you were a professional skateboard you put in the time You got there right so whatever You know like like a NBA basketball player when they're shooting a free throw they're not seeing everybody's hands waving up and down If I'm shooting a free throw, I'm like oh my god, they're waving their hands up and down and I'm missing a free throw those guys And so similarly with stand-up. I feel there's also this comfort level You got to have if you're gonna talk to the audience of hey I might not have a funny punchline after your first response third response fourth response I'm willing to have a conversation for a while and then by the fifth or sixth question the person might be like You know what I did grow up in Zanzibar and you're like what the hell's going on in Zanzibar? You're like with that.

Yeah, I found it, you know, but you have to be willing to sit in that sense I remember watching Andrew DICE clay years ago, and you know, he was already dice and It'd be like a late night kind of set and waiting to go up And I was just watch the level of comfort he had with because obviously the crowd would get excited You know whoever's in the original room people that don't know the comic store the original room or the comments Or we bring each other up the original rooms a darker room and midweek You might have like 20 people and it's like, you know, just regular comedian regular comedian regular comedian and then they go Oh, we have a special guest Andrew DICE clay I just remember him going up and sometimes he was spending the first two or three minutes without saying a word He'd walk up cuz the crowd's like yay, and he goes up and like he takes like whatever it was like a pack of cigarettes or something He puts it on the stool and then he kind of starts walking around and people just just they're mesmerized and then he's gonna Mike is going one through one through and then he's walking around if you're like as a comedian like What's he doing? Like how is he so comfortable in the silence? Yeah, and it was amazing to watch because you really got to learn to be comfortable in the silence. Yeah, you know That's years of work as well.

I mean I said think that about radio guys remember. He's a la guy. He's probably dead I don't know. He's not dead, but he's definitely retired the What was his name?

He's a case him now the guy that would talk about dating women for like for you don't spend more than oh, yeah Remember him a certain amount of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I was heavy set yeah He was heavy Yeah, he did die think he would give advice on dating and stuff And it sounded like he was like a woman like he was a womanizer He just what he wasn't a womanizer and he would talk and people would be triggered Yes, because he was so like confident in his bullshit Wait, who is it call and go you know what you're talking about? Yeah, well the thing is is I do but he used to stall in a way because on satellite radio if you don't talk into the microphone for A certain amount of time there's like a computer thing that will play music because they think you're off the air mm-hmm And he man come on yeah, he would give advice that the guys and they would all call him and it was a fact It was a rock or K-rock or something it was kind of like a rock station. It was a pop I don't know who the fat womanizer is but he would stall for like he would go not just the right wing blah blah blah blah blah Oh, no, oh But I am and I'd be like do yeah Did you just do like a seven second no sound thing?

Yeah, and he would do it a couple of times a show and it got to the point where I was like I kind of like it because it's so cocky. It's like edging It was in the early 2000s it was the early 2000s Jim lad comes to my mind was a gym lad was a great DJ who would play all these cool Yeah, I remember he would have like meet and greets and it'd be him a line at a holly Davis and or whatever Everybody wanted to meet him and I'm like what you gonna get pointer off this guy you get a pointer off a six year old Yeah, and it was like heating to like young chicks. Oh, yeah, I'm like so gross. I mean, he was so offensive It was a meet and greet with a MEAT Meat and I forget.

Oh my god. I see his face wasn't in a bisa right now glasses He's like sunglasses. I think that tracks inside. Yeah, one of those like shock jock like Oakley's on the back of his head Was it LA?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Fat gross womanizer Tom Lickens like it's like it. Yeah Yeah, that's good. Oh, yeah, that's good. Let's go go gross fat womanizer DJ in Los Angeles And I'll say is he still alive.

That's the question. Okay, is it really though? Tom Lickens like us he sucks Yes, no, people would call in you know what now I think about it's very similar to kind of like this Toxic masculinity like manly man. Oh, there's a lot of guys.

Oh, he's so gross Yes, man This is the thing that I don't like about social media now is like manly men did art manly I've talked about it before I want to go and rants all the time about it because I'm like I've been in the gym with like World champion fighters. Yeah, I've spied like world champions. Yeah, I don't alright They beat me up to show they beat me up. Yeah, but I've met the toughest These are not arguably these are the toughest people in the world Yeah, and they're not like they're crying they have bad days they lose they've given up on things Yeah, it's these dudes on Instagram like you know pussy on every give up and I'm like I give me 10 seconds with you in a room Dude, I will smoke you and I will make you cry and you will tell everybody that you are a bitch Yeah, I know I got you dude and I'm not that I'm breakable no if you listen if you're confident in you who you are you don't need to be That so it's like it's like our boy bread earns used to say, you know, Brett is very funny community He's one of the guys that came up with but he used to say I think he worked at a restaurant or something He'd be like I think at a bit or something where he said like, you know What's it while someone in LA will show up and be like, you know who I am and he's like if you got to ask me that Questions like I don't know who you are because Jack Nichols is not walking in and going, you know who I am Like one of the nicest people I've ever met I met Tom Hanks a couple of times now who is probably one of the biggest stars, right?

And I had done an independent film with his wife Rita Wilson Yeah, where we get married and like you know I kiss her Yeah, and so the first time I met him he was a some event I walked up to my go Hey, don't be so bother you, but I did a movie with your wife I'm exactly and he's so he goes you're the guy and he's like It's like a picture and so he was he made me feel like I'm the celebrity Yeah, and the second time I was at a restaurant He's walking I go Mr. Hanks I don't want to bother you again sitting he took his phone out took a picture all of that with you But that it's like if you if you're something or somebody and it like you tend to have humility and you don't have to be Like you just sit, you know the baddest dudes out there are not going around going like say how bad they are It's just a little bit low unless you're Logan Paul. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay Logan Paul was on my show and you still got a great box of his I was like we should move around a little bit And he was like yeah, I'm like yeah, and then I came to his show and he's like do you still want to smile?

I'm like yeah, I brought myself I got my mouth guy with me and he was like I know you do because we had an argument about Harry was like I could fight on one of the better fight I'm like okay, dude I'm a better fighter than you and I know that I'm not good enough to fight like you know Canelo and all these people that are at the highest level because I've moved around with people in the UFC I've moved around with champions and they're better than me. It's okay. It's okay. I can live with it I'm to me.

I'm more like wow and I go oh man. I didn't even see that that was awesome I don't go Oh, I'm gonna like I know it's like same skateboarding like you like people might see me and they go You know put a helmet on him. I you don't know what I'm doing here I'm playing like there's levels when I put my helmet on then what then we then we pick it up if I'm skating We know how many in a little concrete thing and you're like you're being dangerous. I'm like no I'm playing this is not real.

I haven't got serious yet when I get serious. I put on my pants I'm not gonna die. I'm not gonna know. Yeah, yeah, but with the fighting thing I was like you are talking like you're one of the greatest fighters alive And I know and you know if you go to the gym with some other pros that you're not you know that you know Like you know people will walk you around they'll give you some work But if they wanted to put you to sleep they could in a second They could and you know that but you're on the radio telling everybody that you're this big gun and I'm like if you like let's let's Spa you and I should spot and he's like I don't really know about that I'm like, you know why you don't know stuff right?

Oh, yeah, I brought myself because it's because the difference is he's a younger guy To me. Yeah, he's bigger than me. He's a more athletic guy than me But I've been fighting a long time like I'll eat your punch because I've been working at this my whole life Yeah, I'll eat your shot and get inside and tear you apart. You got sneaking your ass I'm bored.

Yeah, thank you But those guys know that the difference is is when you've been in wars you have like a The damage is nothing to me like you can land flush on me But you're gonna have to land flush on me like seven or eight times before I stop because I'm gonna keep coming in those people They're just like I'm gonna hit you and then I want to get out of here masculinity I think is being able to like all the stuff you just said like you're vulnerable. You're a human being I ran into this there was a guy named General Stanley McChrystal He was like he was in charge of the operation against Isis in Iraq. Thank you And he was like say some stuff. He's a bad dude like bad-ass dude And he was like part of like I don't know if he was like a ranger or a Navy seal Whatever he was and he was coordinating all those guys together and what I'm at some event and I'm talking to the guy and You know he was just he was here man.

He was it. There was no you know saying there's no There's there's a lot of false pre I think some people feel like they got to have that but you're a human being And it's like this thing that we see the toxic masculinity that we see online if people You know goes back to the Tom like this guy like you got a bitches guy be like this way you got a this I treated bitch, you know, that's right good for you Thanks Tom by the way he retired this year He is alive. He made all the way to the year. He retired this year.

Yeah, it was like June of this year. No But a dish But I get it I get there's a lot of that toxic masculinity that just drives me It just doesn't it doesn't you don't like I do a set for insert to cut you off But every time I do a set I don't need to be I no matter who Follows me they always have to remind the audience that I'm gay. Huh, and it's me insane. Yeah, it drives me insane Okay, I'll stop doing it.

I'm gonna break this book. I hate to put him on the spot No, but it's something that I've noticed where it's like I'll be talking to somebody backstage But then it's always like a little bit of a yeah, you know It's going to do it. You know, it's crazy is that happens to me Yeah, because I have jokes about being by mm-hmm And usually the guy that comes out after me is like I don't know about you guys, but I ain't sucking dick Yeah, and I'm like oh didn't I get it. Yeah, that's good.

Mm-hmm. Well, you know, that's what I think that's because because here We are like all the weapon they'll be like oh I wouldn't trust him on an airplane because I'm Iranian You know, it's like I've never said that you did say that Really no I Give this guy two hands two hands up No, no, but I think I think it's the easy I think it's an easy go to the people go to I try if I'm following somebody I'll try to listen to something outlandish and yes, yes, you know, say whatever that might be like if you did a bit about I don't know Skydiving and getting hit in the face with a seagull as your skydive, you know I'd be like give it up for Justin Martin Yeah, you got hit in the face with a seagull that's got it's a great and that helps me at least land in the room and the and the Audience knows I watch what they just watch. Yes, but you're absolutely right most people go to the easy stuff like Kirk Fox Saturday Kirk Fox was on and he was talking about like being in this orgy in Italy or something He was in an orgy I don't know if it was real or not But he was like the best way to lose an erection in an orgy is to step on a guy's hand because it's always so you know Awkward because you're like, oh, I'm so sorry so I go up there and I'm like I'm so mad at him for stepping on my hands. Yes, of course.

I'm still waiting for that apology You know, just really hurt the whole audience was like oh my god. I just link it up. Yeah, the stories I did that with oh my god. What's his name the star not live?

But by David's made Yes They're talking about like being at a hotel and he needed a massage So he called for a masseuse and they sent this guy up and then I think the guy got a heart Something he got a heart on the guy got a heart I forget and just like you said it's a big detail that you're Talking about it and it was funny. It was a bit. It was working on it was funny bit and then I when I first went on I was like just you know, give it up for Davis made so anyway, I was massaging this guy Together it's a look I feel like depending on who you are and what you're the person is discussing because I like for me I'm it's a bit triggering. You know if you if you bring up that part like if you go Hey, that guy's crazy with it because I do talk about other stuff besides that and if you were to say something about he probably has Brain damage from getting punched in the face all the time or some sort of skateboard joke Then yeah, but when you go the whole dick's talking about that I go okay So what's so bad about that?

You know and for you like when they're gonna do that and you're like, okay So you're saying like from where I'm from makes me a terror a terrorist. That's where your brain goes like I see how like that's pretty pretty valid to be like low-hanging fruit I was gonna say what I've learned how to do is when I get that when I notice that and acknowledge that that that means They are threatened by what I just did yeah, that means they have to like punch down to make it look like I'm inferior to them I'm gonna disagree with you on that I think sometimes it's just the survival mentality which is I need to take because I've seen you kill in the original room Right, so I remember you do some I don't know if I forget what the bit was but it was something about Britney Spears Oh, yeah, that mess. Yeah, but it was a high energy bit Yeah, yeah, and so I remember watching that and I'm like oh wow as a comedian you sit there You go, okay, I gotta follow this now This is again learning after many years you can either go up and not acknowledge that high energy thing that just happened or or You can acknowledge it and then take their energy because they're gonna laugh at it and then bring so so I think sometimes some people might Just be sitting there like okay. What's gonna be my my my just the bridge Yeah, and I don't think I honestly don't think that they're thinking about it that much So if I'm up on stage they're like oh you just talked about being Middle Eastern this that the other alright even though you know maybe I talked about it be Middle Eastern beginning and then I end it with Material about being with my wife and kids and all that stuff They don't come up and go the easy thing to tag is the kids the easy thing to get tag is these Middle Eastern I don't think that they're thinking that much about it I just think I kind of understand where you're coming from too But I also feel like if walk take a walk and somebody else's shoes Because I because for you like if I come on after you one day if that will be a legendary day I'm not going there because I'm like yeah I'm sure you're comfortable with where you're from and all that stuff But I feel like that could be taken in a way where you'd be like really Jason because that's not all I'm about right And I know that's not like the number one thing on the forefront of your mind But with being got being by or gay or and someone says that who is not by or gay right?

It's like do you know what it's like to be in my shoes because it's not I don't get pads on the back for me by I had it when I went to Austin Whoo Lord like that that was next level What the mothership oh yeah, and when you say was next level what do you mean the comics or you mean the audience the audience was fantastic The comics were just like digging each other you mean they mean it was just you know Oh man, I've never I mean I've never been called a faggot after my set Oh wow, but that happened and like by somebody that I knew like What's up on stage? Oh wow. Yeah, and I was just kind of like in the back like oh is this is this what we're doing here? Now that I would agree like I think you know I Think like a lot of times never do that I think you come like again I personally come from a place of love and I think we're at we have a camaraderie all of it like it's like it's a we're all in the same team So if you're if you're if the comic goes up and make some comment about something that you talked about on stage Then I go that's fine, but if you go up and you do like that's that's derogatory.

That's sure. Yeah, that's bullshit Yeah, you call like I don't yeah, and it was it was it was great because like the next day I got an apology from this person was like hey, sorry I had to throw you out of the bus like that, but I needed to get some laughs I was like well, maybe try be funny. Yeah, right driving funny So I had to I had to follow him the next night and then I got to like lay him You know down, but it wasn't like Derogator just smart about it like when after his outfit went after his like manicness Whatever, but it was just I was sitting in the back like oh wow and then it was crazy because not only did it happen with that guy But the guy after him came after me. I was like dude.

I went up to you double you got double F bomb double F bomb Yeah, man, that's one of those things because I'm confusing for me because I'm both you know obviously I'm retired from gay now But I'm still forever. Yeah, talk about that on the page round. Okay, sure But but there's a part of me that is like this puffed up bullshit hedger guy Yeah, where it's like like I don't don't fuck with me. Yeah, like I'm I grew up I'll punch you in the head.

Yeah, like I'll shut you up real quick Yeah, I know that's ridiculous and rational, but it lives in here for him. Of course I have to argue with it when someone's like Hey, man, but you I'll be like what you don't want to say that to me I punch people and I go no you don't know you don't you're a respected you have children you don't touch people You know, maybe you could go back you say okay fair enough, maybe you're right, but you don't actually do that but those ones On behalf of you and us those ones They're hard hard. I'm just sitting there and I had um Steph Tolive was with me. Yeah, we were just there at the same time And I love her to death.

She's sitting there like fuming for me. Yeah, she's like I'm so sorry You have to sit through this like I'm so angry I'm shaking and I was just like this isn't like I've done this before you know what I mean? And I just don't understand why you have to like take it to that next level because I would never do that I would never have the balls to do that if it was a Middle Eastern person if it was a black person If it was a white person was a woman like you ready for this bitch That shows their lack of talent It really does because it's like you know, it's one thing to send a bridge before before the guy before to myself Usually based on something they said or something that's this fun and funny and it comes from a place of love but to turn it like that That's just that's bullshit. Yeah, and that's them.

That's them really catering to what they feel is probably an audience That is the main thing yeah, the audience is probably like oh these guys probably more conservative And they're gonna love me bashing this guy which is bullshit because there's people in that audience that are probably a lot more progressive I think a lot of times those people dumb down they they they don't have faith in their own audience And your audience is a lot smarter and probably evolve than you're giving credit for yeah So what do I whether you run a you a juggler? I kind I used to jog a lot more I'm just I'm just I didn't retire I just I every time I every once in a while I get some injury and then I'll stop and then I'll start I really like it. I like running I like I like jogging I'll listen to like a podcast the best is if you can you listen to music you listen to talking when you exercise I listen to like new stuff like wait a minute Justin you giggled you've made a little sound there It's like why not you could listen to new stuff all your exercising you guys don't get extra pumped when you work out Well, I actually I love maz on X formerly Twitter. You're very smart.

Oh, thank you I always love his opinions on like politics and stuff like that So I listen to a lot of politics like all this and I like the daily New York Times is called the daily They do a deep dive on a different subject and it's it's amazing like for example, you know I was going like oh these billionaires don't pay taxes. They don't pay taxes So they had one episode They're like how does Jeff Bezos avoid paying all the taxes that we pay I was like I'm interested and this journalist comes in and he explains It to there's an interviewer and then there's the journalist who does the news and the way the guy avoids paying all those taxes He gives himself an $80,000 a year salary Jeff Bezos makes $80,000 a year that he pays himself He pays himself now. How does Jeff Bezos make the rest of his money? Well?

He's worth whatever? I don't know a couple hundred billion so these super rich people what they do is they're so wealthy when he wants to go by 50 million dollar home he goes to a bank he goes ham Jeff Bezos buying a $50 million home I need a loan they give him the money all right and now he's got to pay interest off that money So he goes to another bank he goes Hey, I need to borrow some money to pay the interest off of that bank So he just keeps you know getting loans to pay these different things that he has and he doesn't have to even sell any of his Amazon stock which a really rich person might sit there and go oh I want a 50 million dollar home I'm gonna sell a lot of my Amazon stock and pay 20 plus percent tax on capital gains He doesn't do that so these guys avoid paying taxes by just you know Just going around getting loans and paying you know one to the next and it was amazing to learn that and I go Oh, that's how he does it so these things I like to listen to things like this I actually do that you dare I know right I was tripping out at the same time because I heard that about Elon Musk how he does that with like His shares that he doesn't pay taxes on because they're they can fluctuate they're not yeah You know money this is what it's worth right now Yeah, but it's not like a taxable thing. Yeah, because you're sure you got to pay 30% in California Does this let me ask this question because it's the one bit that I didn't get to I've even heard all that is this technique Does that hurt this country? Well the way I heard the little guy when they do that I think that the way from what I've understood the way that it hurts us is we're not getting the taxes that these people could be paying because if the first I look at the dichotomy of And the divergence of of of wealth and how much it's gone to the top you know smaller percent versus the lower percent many years ago Wasn't that divisive in that way, but I heard Elizabeth Warren Who was talking about an idea which she said listen she goes these people whose stocks are going up a billion two billion three billion You're benefiting from the system that we have in this country.

We set up a system where somebody like you who by the way is You know, I'm gonna give you credit your smart person you whatever it is you got to where you are you're benefiting from this system So she said what about if we said all right you don't want to sell your stocks That's understood you want to hold on to those stocks. What about if your stocks gain in a billion dollars What if you had like a minimum tax that you got to pay that year based on the gain of that stock? What if it was just 2% yep, so if you're if you're stuck you gain a billion dollars You're gonna give us 2% whatever that comes out to our if it's 200,000 or 2 million or what that number is Let's just give that to give that so that we can use that to spend towards infrastructure and Health care for all and all this other stuff that we need because ultimately we look at it We're several trillions of dollars in debt and the lack of Taxes coming from some of these ballers Allows them then to go and spend hundreds of millions of dollars getting somebody like Trump elected who is with a party That's willing to give them these tax breaks and willing to make them richer and richer and that's where we're at It's crazy that poor people back cuz I'm not an educated man But when I see the Elon Musk is on X telling people that Trump is the guy to vote for I go Hmm, so I don't have a billion dollars and neither does pretty much everybody else in America But he thinks we should vote for that guy So are you a member of his club? No, so we're all the other people that are gonna get screwed over in this But we're gonna back him because he thinks that like square trucks are cool or that this guy thought yeah Trans people shouldn't go to the bathroom or you're not gonna get a fully automatic weapon like I feel like you're it's to me I this is the thing that makes me know that I'm a good person if you give me billions of dollars right now Let's just say the Jason show is now worth twenty billion dollars.

Mm-hmm I'm I don't want it like I want it. I want enough. I want a pool. I like pools I don't need like I've had a waterfall in my pool.

That'd be cool. Yeah I don't need I want everybody to be happy like I want the world to be better You want everyone to have a waterfall in their pool? Not if I don't get one I'm honest, but I don't but I feel like you can have my money you can have taxes I don't want to skip and do this thing where I get 50 billion next year and it screws over all the little people we don't want to give my share so that there are Like the health care thing like I'm from Australia. They got healthcare.

Yeah, you know like and it's like wait But that's because you don't and I'm like well now I'm I lived here. I'm friends of the Americans. I'm pretty much American I got American kids. Everybody else has it pretty similar Ma's your mean work like I know like you like like we're all pretty similar people We love people people piss us off in traffic.

It's all pretty don't tell me that I don't understand what it's like to be an American Yeah, I want everybody to get along It's like you get all caught up in social media and like certain little little little little little bity-bitty rules that you go No, no, I'm not letting that happen where it's like what a billion is not paying their share while we pay most of it It's not right. Well what you said listen first of all one of the things that I think a lot of times people that are of lower income Don't look at it exactly Just said who is paying for this ad or for this person to win and if you if you say it's the Koch brothers or the Mercer family or Elon Musk or any of these people that you see these people all these guys are really rich and they really want this guy to win They don't want them. They're benefiting from that guy. Okay, the other thing that they've done That they've sold there's two lies that they sold to that lower income person number one the one line I've sold them is this is America We should not be taxed as much as these guys want to tax us because you poor guy may one day come up with the next Tesla and you'll be like me there's no chance in class working class There's no chance in hell that guy's ever gonna be where Elon Musk is but they go you okay So you should definitely support my freedom to not pay the taxes So that when you're a billionaire made America right and the third thing that they've sold these guys is that private enterprise can handle This a lot better than government cancel deregulate the hell out of us and we will take care of you Which has not happened this whole trickle down economics.

It was supposed to be like oh if these guys are billionaires They won't buy yachts. They'll give it to everybody else. They're buying yachts super yachts. They're buying a city They bought a city in California that they're building all these tech guys got their money together and they've bought this They're creating their own city that got Peter Thiel who paid for JD Vance to basically become who he is now is this like Bond villain He's a gay guy who is pro.

He's a Log cabin Republican and he's he's a nut job who thinks that like that the government is just is is evil and cannot be trusted And it's all and by the way if government does anything then they're gonna be then they're gonna be Socialists and communists and they're gonna come after you meanwhile you're like no wait a minute What are the biggest things that happened under Biden you can criticize them for whatever you want One of the biggest things that happen was he passes infrastructure bill and the infrastructure bill is helping build bridges and and Industries all around the country that did not exist all these other presidents all these other parties had wanted it But they weren't able to make it happen this guy finally made it happen and the people that voted against it a lot of Republicans voted against it Because probably they had people that were of this, you know Type the Peter Thiel type saying don't vote for it don't vote for it They start taking credit for it and so that's government doing something good where government gets together and goes We're gonna get together and we're gonna spend on building some infrastructure And by the way rich companies are still gonna get rich because the companies that are getting a lot of the benefits are these rich companies Like Intel right now is becoming is building chips in computer chips in America these AI stuff So all of that to say these guys have done a great job Convincing a bunch of gas lighter income gas lighting and gas ain't I'd be like you know what it is if you you know Do that come after your guns. Yeah, I'm gonna have you gas your stoves and then there's gonna be transgender I know if the Olympics which my thing can I just say what a twist right the fact that these people and it starts with JK The three the three horsemen of the apocalypse JK rolling JK rolling Elon Musk and fucking Logan Paul. Yeah In no particular order. Yeah, seriously Right after this athlete in the Olympics and we're like, oh, that's a man.

You like they were unfucking Maury Povich Be like that's a man more that's and it went crazy No to the point where this Olympic athlete who is in the pinnacle of her career. I mean I believe yeah Who is from where I'll cheer you? I'll trans people to her for Because it's illegal four years ago. Oh my god.

She's lost five. It's like she's not even the undisputed champion of women's boxing Like it's just and I saw also my my community the five community just trachia and I've already said several times I'm not an educated man, but I was like hmm Olympics. They test the Olympics. Yeah, you're saying that they miss the dick Yeah, that's not how like if you have a ridiculous amount of tests Also, I mean you are man in a man contest you're getting out of it for yeah, you don't just fly Yeah, yeah, it doesn't work, but you were all so quick to go Donald Trump to it is rally and it's got to suck to be that person I mean I believe or the other one the tie when he tried to throw the time Yeah, I mean I'm the Taiwanese girl somebody from Taiwan like some politician put out a tweet and said just they go I only have one thing to say the number two and the number two is when you're born in Taiwan There's a number that goes in your identification card if you're a male It starts with a one if your female starts with a two and so she goes if you're telling me that this person has a number two in front of their ID card, but it's actually a man you're telling me when this person was born 28 years ago the conspiracy began that This person gonna be a boxer and let's mess with a number So it's just so and then actually my friend was pointing something out as well because this is this goes back to where these guys do very But also extraordinary lungs.

Yeah, he's got an advantage. I'm sure LeBron like somebody's man We've discussed Shaquille and he'll seven feet till I think it helps him play basketball Yeah, and so I'll just hands are twice the size of an average person's hands. Yeah, what about this one? There's a volleyball player's a convicted fake in the Olympics.

Yeah, no Protests about that. No, just too busy about the dude that's a girl isn't you get your priorities in order because you're your homophobic And you're a hater your hater of people. Yeah, love each other by the way. Don't you have other shit going on in your life?

That's the other thing I was saying was like these people that have this Anger towards everything cultural like I don't know about you guys But for me like every day, you know between traffic and fucking standing in line and paying your mortgage And then I just tell him my daughter got bit by dog yesterday So I think the ER to take care of that I got all this shit going on back here. What kind of dog was it? I'm just I get back here man. I was freaking me out at what point do I turn around and go what there's a strong woman in the Olympics Yeah, I'll dare you know, it's always the people who bitch about being woke who need to wake the fuck up.

Yeah, honestly When they have a problem of being whoa, just wake up. I'm like just wait up. I'm just enjoying the game Even though even the girl that she was fighting was like I think it was I think it was BS because it was like I've never been hit like that before well, that's our new girl Like you won't get to make it. Yeah, we've got to go But I just want to say real quick I know these two and people that are watching this You know me Justin is one of the nicest people I've ever met he's been nothing but cool to me every time I've ever made him when I was in comedy and Mars was also the kind of guy that is that comes up to a guy who's at the comedy store Who's looking to be one of these guys and says really nice things and gives me advice that he didn't there was no He ain't getting anything out of it He was just like really nice to me the comedy store and gave me some advice and also gave me some like he said some stuff That made me feel like I got a chance at this You know me you took me inside when you were like wait a minute Is it Jason and then you came over and talked to me and where I was like you're a fucking sweetheart I appreciate you really good guy these people are really good people they got kind hearts And that's like a thing that I am a witness to and they weren't doing it so that I would say this on the show right now This is what they are and look at the way they think things are in the world like their angle on things It's not coming from another any other place then then love so these are great people and you need to recognize this Appreciate your brother and a witness to it you guys are fucking awesome.

Thank you man on the show We gotta go so check out specials you're staying for I'm staying yeah check out my other special the birds and the bees birds and the bees on YouTube And if you guys are out and about I'm touring then go to mazjo brani calm follow me at my Joe brani and come see a show Come see what I've left. Thanks for doing the show. Thanks for having me. Don't die

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