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You need to get a better name. I'm not kidding Hey everybody. It is another episode of the list show. We are back This is like a really long time since we recorded it has it's been about three weeks, but that's right We didn't have so that we can't hold on to so that we didn't have it.

Yeah, we recorded recorded two in a row two weeks in a row So we can stay to our schedule that we've put out. That's right. I remember now We put out templates out at least that's what I heard anyway tonight. I am your host castle on my right We've got D.N.

Hello, no silent on today And I would just fake like you is here because all he says is hi And I'm still trying to figure out why you bought like a microphone for hi But he can shiny sometimes I know I'm just either we've got beaker what's happening or Tim and tonight We've got a special guest in house. It's a Utah County medium caden matinson If you're curious about cayden you can find him on caden matinson calm I will put a link on the Wisps website to caden matinson and we're gonna get talking here in a minute He's got some events set up that people can come to but tonight We're gonna basically kind of let caden run wild with some of his gifts So as we get started tonight, I kind of want to ask a few questions caden just so the audience can get tonight I worked with you now for two three years. Oh, why are you so quiet? Hold on?

There we go if we unmute Kate oh, hey, hey, there he is learn how to work the soundboard guy Yeah, well, it's like why is Kate so quiet and it's because the soundboard is at him You just figured out why we have no viewers on the Facebook stream. Why is that? Well, I was streaming for my page not the arcade. Yeah, nobody cares And for those who are watching us from Facebook land hello hello And the for those who aren't watching us from Facebook land currently no one's watching us come and watch yeah Come and watch or you can watch later anyway as I was saying I how I work with you Kate I think we're going on three years And Kate is actually one of the two mediums for wisps we currently have two Bradies and a caden and then we do use Amanda For the energy healing stuff, but she's currently on her walker crush United States Which I think we touch on every film when she was on Tim yes, we did so I am not Nothing but the fullest most professional show here I'm recording on the wrong Facebook page Michael what the hell we're doing.

Why do you guys listen to us? I know right? I'm trying not to eat candy and I'm failing at it. Well, and then Castle gave me drugs before this started so I might be weird I'm a headache.

Give me some weird thing and it's a weird thing. It's a weird thing. It's an anti-inflammatory All right, he has gone from his working job to a drug dealer. He's burning from the bass So I'm two for evidence one for me Precious that's getting trouble and I know I'm very good with everything goes for blanks So Kate let's start a little bit for those who don't know you at all Now Caden is a medium and it's interesting because I work with the mediums and I've worked with several not just ones in our team I worked with other mediums.

Everybody's gifts seems to work a little bit differently Right for instance peaches brandy who's a normal host on the show she hears and sees spirits directly kind of like how I see Tim And she sees spirits that are not crossed right? Randy blue can also see in here spirit. She doesn't see them as well as Peaches or caden does but she can see them but she seems to be a little bit more gifted in the area of Stones and crystals and using those to kind of cleanse and cross over spirits right that kind of angle now Kate doesn't see spirits directly like I would see Tim or Deanna or even can't sit across the table at me Caden explain how your gift works for our viewers. So it's a little bit different.

I can hear audio which Is a little interesting sometimes, but then I see more of a projector image So I'm not seeing anybody directly. I'm not looking at anybody, you know Like I would see where I when that does happen I get extremely excited because it never very very rarely does that happen But more more just watching a movie on the screen basically now one difference with caden Well, let me just ask you so I mentioned that Peaches can see spirits are not crossed right? What type of spirits can you see in here? So I do more of the crossed over spirits occasionally I see non-crossed but most of the time the spirits that I see are either crossed or nothing anybody wants to really play with And it's interesting that you mention that because there's an investigation that Tim and I were both at I don't think again was at that one And at that investigation do you remember the specification talking about Tim?

I think Tim was there were you there? How the hell should I know I think we've only done 12 in the last couple of months. I've done three this weekend You care to elaborate? All right Okay, so no at this particular investigation it was interesting because it was me Tim Caden and Alico was there and I want to say Nate all the rules with us.

It was a home in It was West Jordan. I think it was a West Jordan house and what happened is the ladies deceased uncle was there Oh, yes And it was fascinating because brandy came into that investigation probably about an hour after we'd been there and we had a really long Involved conversation with the uncle that was the second time We're there a week before that right but I mean we were having a very long involved conversation The stuff that Caden was pulling out had the homeowner interiors because it was stuff the only the uncle knew and homeowner knew and Anyway, peaches came in and she's like I don't see this uncle But it's interesting because we I got an EVP of this uncle that is just crystal clear In fact, I wish I would have thought to have had it ready for the show tonight But I mean you can hear in Mel's voice and it's just crystal clear. Well, I remember like I Spirits like to predict their emotions onto me and I could feel this guy like he was just overwhelmed with joy and happiness With the fact that he was able to talk to his niece again And I remember correctly like he pretty much raised her so he was more like a father figure to her than he was an actual uncle right Yeah, he was he was more of the parent figure her dad was pretty much not in her life and For her to actually be able to talk to him and it was it was interesting on that one a lot of cases You know, you kind of get information hit miss and a lot of spirits like to talk at the same time And so we have to kind of sort him out and when he started talking everybody stopped Well, that's what I thought was interesting about that particular case is just the fact that kind of showcased The different gifts that the different mediums have and how they work differently because Brandi is a normal medium Yeah, I think that's the investigation where we were just kind of like you can't even see cross over spirits That's why he's saying stuff that Brandi can't see right? Yeah, that was you're watching on Facebook.

You can see cadence arms, but not his face Which I don't know why that is There we go One thing I just want to put out there is I really like working with Kate. I mean I like working with everybody on our team I think we've got a great team, but and I'm not a medium by any stretch of the imagination But I can you know feel some things and get some impressions and don't even go there But the way the star oh no, I think it was played in a band To Work we're we're seeing nothing strange true No, but when I'm on an investigation with Kate and it's kind of like I don't even want to say we're on the same wavelength because your wavelength is like Way there, but I do think that People don't get to see the arm motion with that either there there missing out right now, but I do think that every once in a while Well, you know I'll say did you feel that you like yeah, I feel better also, you know my feeling this and you know And it's kind of neat I think in some ways we're kind of It's kind of nice to have somebody there to validate also I Mean when you're when you're on investigation and you know, we had another house in West Valley where it was I believe me and you Deanna and then it was the two rookie investigators Okay, and this is the coca-cola Oh, yeah, I remember the house where there was absolutely zero validation until the end Yeah, and you know those kind of cases are fun because it's just strictly using the ability and letting you know Believing what this bears are telling you sometimes you don't really know what you're gonna get And that house was nice that house was Well for our listeners, this is the house that I remember several several episodes ago We talked about where I told the lady the house that she had a demon in the house and it freaked out And then we came up with our T1 two and three We went back. Yeah, that's when we came up the system because Jan back give this Ask me a question of an answer she was almost on the phone with a young priest and old priest I mean a cans of peace soup, you know, she was awesome though because Out of every case that one will always stand out from for the rest of time because that little lady I never would have guessed that voice would have come out of her all my word She you know, we tell everybody to take over their home if you have something like that in your house You demand that it leaves this is your house. I really said I missed this one because I went that was twice a couple years ago And for our listeners, there were some new issues that kind of cropped up And so I wasn't able to go back on the fault investigation.

So I kind of missed this part But that was that was great. She's a tiny tiny little gal and we do when we do the cleansing process We say you know, we tell the homeowner, okay, you have to demand that these spirits leave as we're cleansing It's your house, so we don't have the authority that it's your house So you're the one with the right right and so I told her I said you have to be really forceful You know don't ask the man and this woman is tiny She's probably five feet tall Just a tiny and quiet little boys I mean she's just a cute little Catholic grandma you'd ever want to meet and oh my gosh I was afraid I honestly was waiting for cops to come driving down the road because she was yelling so loud I thought if Satan himself walked in the house, he would turn and leave like yeah, I'm not staying here Then we all took turns try not to laugh because it's not because it was funny. It was just so unexpected Yeah, I'd have to turn away every once in a while. I know her personality.

I can totally visualize it and it's awesome. Oh and her daughter I'm on her way out. She was like now. You see why I say you don't make mommy mad I Told the daughter like I never want your mother to be mad at me ever.

Yeah, it was it was crazy So I'm gonna jump in here quick I know there was there was one person that did ask a question on Facebook earlier and I noticed that she is watching live That's Kathy Hanson and I believe her Her question was can you tell her what's haunting her daughter? Well, hi Kathy That is a good question and I've been kind of trying to dig a little bit and see if I can get some spirits to let me know What's going on? The the only thing that I've gotten out of it so far is that it is family And it seems to me like it would be a father or a grandfather of yours on your father's side That I don't know if he was an alcoholic or if he was just that mean of a person But he's just completely overbearing Now is that a now Tim since you're watching Facebook and Kathy responds to you let us know so that our listeners can know what her responses Yeah, she says anything. Oh, okay Now that's part of what we're gonna do tonight, but before we get going Kate and I know that you've got some events lined up that you're working on Yes, and again, I'm gonna have a link to cadence website on the west page also.

It's caden mantinson KADN M-A-T-T-I-S-O-N I N-S-O-N close Dot-com And you can go to his web page and sign up for his events or if you want to read him from caden Now I think we're gonna kind of put you on the spot a little bit tonight, and we're gonna have you do kind of a group reading See what you get. Go for it. Can we talk about our super-secret location? Let's do it.

Let's do it. We're doing readings first I want to I do want to talk about that super-secret location because that was probably the best You know evidence wise the best investigation It was probably the most active investigation that I've ever been on. Let's do it. We know back the great It was it was basically like caden myself We're on one end of the building and our last guest from last show Paul and Zach were on the other end of the building and it was Weird cuz like I'm I'm starting to like being able to kind of pick up on things And no way am I medium at all like I just it's weird because I've been getting information without using equipment from the spirits and having like Caden or brandy confirming information and it's kind of freaking out.

He's a sensitive and he doesn't want to admit it But it was I remember when we saw that that well you guys saw a big ball like that big bright light I saw it look like a wedding bell and it was funny cuz caden kept saying there's a woman a white there a couple days later I called Brandy and I'm like hey, do you remember a woman white being there? And she's like let's so vague like okay. Well, let me ask a white woman in black right? I'm like where we're afraid the question was there a woman wearing a braille gown there?

And she's like yes, and then told me her name told me how she died She said she hung herself and what was interesting is because what we all saw basically look like someone falling from their afters like like they were hanging themselves and Brandy went on to tell me about how Beyonce yeah, we came and I had actually talked to the fiance and we didn't tell Brandy about it but I got I was kind of picking up that he was in the military and that he was murdered and Brandy confirmed all of that with me just asking if there was a woman or a bridal gown It was just a crazy actual investigation Well, I think the craziest part of it all is we were studying there talking to this guy getting his story and the story on his fiance And all that and the water jug moving. Oh, yeah It was there was this big giant bucket that they put like the ice and stuff in that thing literally moved about two inches across the counter Really as we're standing there talking to the spirit We just we heard it and saw it moving across the counter really crap We both took a step back and we're like did we really just see that that was the probably the Besides having a solid oak wood door slammed in my face. That was probably one of the coolest investigations Yeah, I mean that was by far one of the best I've been on now Where did this all would door happen? So that was the first investigation I ever did with a team We I put a team together and we went into the only high hotel Oh, okay, and there's a they turned it into a reception center And there was a door that separated the kind of dining area from going up into the rooms from the hotel area And we were three or four of us had turned we're walking back in and we're like okay We're coming to play and as soon as I got to where the door would have smashed me in the face It's slam shot.

Oh, I said and heard about that one I said I had a few doors of my own slam shut. I wasn't a fire station. We did but so Kathy actually said the spirit called her daughter's name using her voice using Kathy's voice and it sounded metallic Oh interesting that one almost leave me believe it's something a little more a little more not so nice Yeah, a little more nefarious is where I was looking for Definitely keep this post on responses from Kathy. Yeah, I'm trying to think or I'm sure I'm connected to your Wi-Fi But it's like I think the connection keeps like picking up and dropping Oh, oh no, so we're keeping posted if we need to we can read just that Wi-Fi somehow I'm there's like a hundred one internet connections in this room.

Yeah, we can hardwire if we need to Alright, so let's move on. Did you guys have any more you want to talk about about the secret location? Oh my God I just want to go back after let's talk about that That was funny so he calls me the morning after and he's like how do you feel like I'm wide awake I'm ready to go. That was the greatest investigation I've ever done.

I felt drained. I felt I talked to Brandy So yes, you've got a major pair of hangover Like a psychic paranormal hangover type of deal. I know we just get really bad. It's not See like I said Yeah, I'm sorry guys.

That's the connection here is crap. Hey, that's my connection We were in the the portal room of the secret location and I remember one point like I just sat there with my we were trying to avoid that one night And it got to the point where cadence like and we both got it at the same time Like we need to go up there and say well Paul and Zach something's gonna go wrong if we don't so when we were out there We're trying to talk to the spirits and I like I saw something like one of the mirrors just look creepy like you could see something there you could see that there was something looking back at you and So I closed my eyes and I'd like I'm still need all this I don't even know if I was doing anything other than just imagining things But I was basically trying to shield everybody in the room and after that I just felt completely drained for the rest of the night and for like three days after like I just felt like I had My butt kicked the really fall part was right at the very beginning when came to be in a smart ass any spirits Want to come scratch me they can and five minutes later He got punched in the mouth and lip bleeding every already had a sore there from before and it was healing had Completely sealed over there was not an issue there. Can't get punched in the mouth a lot. That's why there's a sore there And sometimes it's the living ones that do it and not the non-living But yeah, I was completely blown away we had standing there talking learning about you know how to finish up for the night and We just turn around and bloods running down my lip He's just like I just got a question about I'm like really and he turned around there's blood dry come down I'm like all right then.

Yeah, one thing I thought was interesting about your investigation I didn't go on that one. I've had a really busy spring But one thing I thought fascinating is on our previous or my last visit to that secret location with Tim and peaches and I think worked was there Yeah, it was the main six of us. Yeah, yeah, and then silent down were there and There is one type three spirit in that building that was That we figured out was summoned during the process of a and that's how it got there So trying to figure out how it got there now Tim gave me and we're not gonna name names But Tim got some more information about where that particular spirit came from Well, you talk about that a little bit if you will it was fascinating was when that one spirit popped up in the room and got right up In the cadence facing is like he's not the normal type three that you guys think oh, yeah And we're like what do you mean and basically the information we got was that he was a human spirit at one point that basically I guess more like soul. Yeah, I sold it's all and so kind of like a type two on steroids.

Yes, basically Yeah, it was a type two that has abilities and power that type two should not have but yeah We were told by him on the previous investigation He was summoned by three witches and when I was there with Caden We actually got the names of those three people and which are three people that we know fairly well, right? Yeah, so we found that they were they were not in the building They were outside of the building kind of messing around and they were using one of those like We do board type things but with a pendulum that like swings so anyone that's watching consume my hand like But yeah, you see that I'm asking questions the pendulum kind of goes around and answers just kind of like a we do board was Similar to we do board but a little bit different mechanics see an equally not good see it And that's where I differ on a we do board. I absolutely will not touch it There are very very few rare cases where I would use the pendulum board and it's a specific pendulum that I would use for it Well, and I think ultimately the difference is and again I'm not really comfortable either, but the pendulum board is something controlling the pendulum and not controlling the person And that's kind of the big dividing line there right because it just staying with with standards if Caden was using something I thought was incredibly dangerous Caden would not be a member of Wisps So if yeah, I just I know I know I'm gonna e-mails if I don't clarify that So that's really the big difference. So did you guys want to talk to the English hard?

Yes, have anything else you want to talk to about that investigation or should we move on to the reading? I think I think we're good on the investigation side the Was talking about the events There was one thing that we do need to cover. Oh, yes with the team So as those of you that are on my page know we held a little contest a while back to get up to 50 likes on the page and We have far by exceeded that 50 likes So we sent an email out to the person who got the 50th like on the page Lena and we're working on getting her reading set up But because it was Wisps that was the referral for her Yes, go team. Oh, I'm gonna take all the credit Why was it works supposed to be running my line?

I was promoting his Facebook page So our sponsor times lack of working at work I'm sure that will be helpful for him in the future none of those people watch this right listen to this They're like oh, yeah, I'll listen throw away the business card you crazy So what I did with that is Tim being the one who was the actual referral Gets a one hour free reading and a ticket a free ticket to one of the events Then I sat down and I thought you know Tim is part of the team and being as it was a team referral I drew names out of a hat for three other team members to get a free one hour reading and a free ticket to an event nice and If I can get into the wall So I drew those out of the hat and I haven't looked at them. I just put oh so we're not running yet So I put Tim's name in just to remind me But I have not seen them yet. Haha. So the first one is brandy B Excellent, you know one hour free reading and the one free ticket Lurch you get a one hour free reading and the one free event excellent and mark is the third one Fantastic so lurch from mark and brandy B.

I think everybody on the show knows that except for maybe mark We did have mark on episode that episode kind of went sideways and I don't think we were No, he was he was in the background if you go to life on the rocks and listen to the one with castle We had to say that mark on that episode that's true I was listening to the other day. I remember it at John Taney. Oh, he's in the doorway. We won't come in the room Yeah, we need to get mark on the show mark was actually really cool He showed up and helped me out at the opera with you the other night with Doing the badass paid all those investigation.

Yeah, I would like to come to that I actually was tied up until probably about 2 a.m. That's the morning. What were you doing? What were you doing that you're tied up was she hot we I went and stuck out in the gaxial just anyway It's a terrible movie.

You know what it actually kind of was like there's no plot to it whatsoever. Thanks for ruining Marvel for me Kenny Anyway, so let's move on the stew greeting Now that we've got that all done. Oh, yeah, so one other thing and then we'll do the greeting promise the event all the events Yes, we need to come the events so we do have two events set Pretty much in stone the one event is definitely set. I'm doing an event a gallery reading session in richfield, Utah Which is where all of my family is from so that event if you look on the page It is set for June 10th.

We're actually moving that date to June 24th So June 24th and richville where that right? That's gonna be at the comfort in comfort in yep I'm having tickets or you so there are 25 for that one 25 now for those who don't know what a gallery reading is can you explain that to him so a gallery reading is I put 25 people in a room and We just pull spirits out as they come up and we You know identify who there for and and relay the messages So basically if you show up there, maybe a set message for you You may hear message for other people and to be honest with you I it's kind of fun because I think the first time I've ever had any kind of reading experience with caden I was headed to an investigation. It was cleaved cabin. Yeah, I guess I just said hi How you doing?

Oh, sorry cleave. I need to call you semi-textual or anything. I just remembered so I will call you want to get a chance Anyway, there was me I think I had Amy with me and I had alica and caden and he did kind of a group reading in the Jeep on the way up And it's kind of interesting. Uh, in fact the most interesting thing that whole group reading is is that Alica has very difficult pregnancies And I hope she's wearing that for the whole public Too late too late.

It's out there. Anyway, Cain basically told her I said you're gonna be pregnant before the end of the year And it was like two three months later where she's contact goes. I remember when Caden was in the Jeep and Yeah, I think her babies do here in a couple of months. Yeah, I say July I say it's July I think yeah So anyway, so group readings are kind of fun because Kate and just kind of get stuff throws it out and uh, well, let's get started Let's do a group show us how it's done.

Let's do this thing. So and then the other group the other group event will be at Benson Griss Mill Yes, and it is a good venue and there will be 25 for that one as well I'm going with that one Because I'm going to do something a little special on that when I'm gonna do a group reading session and then an investigation afterwards So those that want to stay after the reading session can come investigate with us So let's let's jump into this group reading and The first one that we're gonna talk about is this one that we started with a little bit ago Okay, we should write back up on this because I don't think we were the first part of that So no, let me let me fill in some background as we were sitting here standing up and talking to Kate and Kate mentioned that There's a female spirit here. It was just going crazy He he had to tell her to kind of calm down because apparently she wants talk to Tim really really badly And so which is beyond me is why You don't show up on investigation go I want to talk to that guy They always run straight to Castle which by the way for those on Facebook Tim much rather dapper today Yes, I don't know what it's done Well with a lilac color shirt the vest and the new soup hands and his grizzly Adam bring a young beard Dapper so anyway, go ahead. No, we got the background so now we've got the background so that particular girl was just a pickup Somebody that right somebody that's right.

That's right. That's right at least there. You know at least it's a girl We hope it's not you know, it's not like some this the transvestite that we had in on the other investigation Well, maybe I was that the secret location. Yes.

Yes. There was one there was so You just happen to pick her up Mostly because she was interested in the the energy that was going in the vehicle at the time Which is funny because when you get Because of the energy in his vehicle I think I heard rest up in there somewhere. Yeah, you know Well, no rest up to involved. I was at a fancy restaurant last night Very fancy.

All right, so Tim picked up somebody in their center case car, right? Restaurant, okay, so Randy and I went to dinner last night after the residential we did so wherever Randy's at There's a shit ton of energy always and Generally residual after she leaves for several hours So, you know, just kind of a general target based on that one And That's that's about all we got on her So no no name no No general information. So why not this you want to talk to Tim? Nobody wants to talk to him.

Have you seen this? Which is my original question He was the first okay, so he was the first he was the first person that she saw After she came in okay, so she came through a portal and she was the first person that you were the first person that she saw when she came through That's magic and And was it a portal of the house? Could we close a portal last night? Yes Which would make sense because I was standing and I was standing right next to the portal like all night and the reason that brandy didn't see it is because this girl's crust It's time for the podcast recording We're all getting our notification I'm cutting the live stream.

It keeps disconnecting. We offer a trick or tonight. So we got some of it on there. Okay Yeah, so basically what was going on last night at the residential we did is There was a portal in this this couple's bathroom mirror and the people were just wandering in and out and That's why they contacted us is to come and check it out and see what was going on Now just for my curiosity the countertop that was below this mirror is it like right at marble Remember it could have been like a sink the top itself.

I'm just hearing I'm hearing somebody tapping on what sounds like a marble counter It's entirely possible. I didn't really pay attention Those houses and they're like memorized like what every piece of furniture is made out of that's too easy to get valuables Don't let them go on the bedroom alone Like maybe from right or right or you know usually like the final, you know, you'd have around the sink It was definitely something I mean it was a harder surface, right? So I mean it's possible But yeah, she she closed the portal and then there was probably about five spirits did standing outside the bathroom I'm gonna like well now what do we do now? Where do we go because it was basically just like a kind of kind of like yeah I was like a hub.

We're not sure how the portal opened It wasn't there wasn't anything negative, but yeah, it's just kept coming going out of that Portal in these people's house and brand clothes the portal last night So it makes sense that she might have just stepped through the portal saw me because I was standing next to it all night until brandy Closed it and then just kind of followed us around. Yeah, I'm kind of stuck with you for the for the remainder So do we know what her name is? Her name is Elizabeth. Okay, Elizabeth and so and she's from she's from like The 1960s I would say not very old not very Okay, so she died when she was 47 So my thing is if she crossed over like how do you get lost?

We can't you just like go back? She was kind of portal hopping oh, oh, so he ruined your fun I can take it to another portal, but it's not gonna be one that you like my friend Lucy guard one there She said there's one here there is one here isn't there either one near here is there in the house that in the Ready can back in the backyard. Yeah, I think you're neighbor as a portal Yeah, I think I'm a brandy center one kind of that way to the east well You can continue portal hopping there if you want or you can follow me around So what why did you want to talk to Tim so bad? Okay, so that's kind of the theme of the night so basically saw him and went oh, he's pretty What and so do we need to explain why that's so that's kind of the theme of the night So as soon as the end walked in the night She she has a male that followed her in that was just like in awe Let me back up on the story So Dan walks in and says caden I gotta ask you is there something following me around tonight and kids like yeah There's a dude and well you tell from here down well, okay, so we'll get back up even further This is like when I was episode starts at the end and then we just keep Back in the car So we're momentoing so anyway, I'm gonna be no sure something stretch So I get my car I put in you know when you get in your car and you back out and nothing in the car works unless you put it in drive So they might be a good kicks on and if you had their conditioner on it kicks on something you need a new car Right, so I'm having those issues and I'm getting a new car next month, so Well, okay So my car is gonna be fancy electronics and it won't kick anything in until you put it in drive because it doesn't want you messing Stuff all your backing up anyhow, but I'm driving and I drove for probably about 10 minutes and I said out loud because I talked to myself I said oh when I get to Castle South I need to see if he's got some dogs because my head is killing me And then my air conditioner came on just boom and the cold air actually made my head go in I thought oh that's nice and I thought who did that because I did not do that who are you?

So I thought you know what yay, I'm gonna go see what's following me around So I walk in I'm like you know what's following me and it was a dude He wouldn't tell us his name, but we called him Harry Yep, and you heard him better than I did and Harry Harry was not very nice pervert No, okay, he had nothing but crude things to say and He even started getting snide with Castle at Castle's house. Is he still here? No, okay Castle told him that if he didn't start behaving like a gentleman in my home He's gonna be sent packing and then he started being rude and I looked at him and said you know We couldn't do this the easy way or the hard way and he very quietly walked out Because some spirits know that they don't mess with us well, and there's the other thing to work quite frankly It's my home and I have dominion here. I don't want to be here.

I'm gonna send a packing Yeah, we didn't we didn't mention the part the secret location where when we first got there the one spirit was hiding from me Oh, yeah, he hid from me because he thought I was there to get rid of him. What I be Bart. Yes. He was literally hiding from me Good part.

It's the beard. Yeah, yeah, no the beard So what is what about Castle? We've got me so far. We've got the M Hey, he just doesn't get anything he gets text readings all the time.

Hey, what do you think? Hey, what do you think I'm like? Okay, here you go really quick. What do you think got it?

Yeah? The only one that doesn't constantly harass the mediums yes I feel something creepy in the back of my car. I turn around and say leave me alone and I go in the house You totally text it. I know I text you guys out of the blue.

Hey is everything okay? Yeah, right? No, there's this car driving around by itself in my house right now. Okay, let me I'll like Castle No, if you need our help will come down that one that one was not very fun Yeah, we should probably talk about that.

I don't think we ever did talk about that We kind of did a little bit when we talked a little bit about the succubus case because that's what was going on Yeah, because we had that succubus case and sorry every day this was bouncing all over the place, but hopefully it's interesting Yeah, we had a succubus case and during that particular case all the mediums in the team were just getting Horassed by paranormal stuff like crazy stuff and like harassed was not even the word for it Wasn't it peaches was basically sending us Marco Polo's of her essentially partially possessed and like riding crap on her mirror and creepy black-eyed stare and that video still creeps me out and then Caden was Having cars drive around his house like toy cars were just on their own driving around he sends video of that my kids toys We're playing with themselves and you know, we do have a child spirit in the house We you know, we do have my my wife's son there and so normally toys sounds don't bother us But when we tell them to knock it off and it does it again and drives it from one end of the house to the other Well when the pull toy doll says I want your soul I don't I don't know if this is 100% accurate, but if I remember correctly, I just kind of messaged you out of the blue Like is everything okay here house? Yeah, I just get a random like a text that was like, hey Is everything all right and I call him? I'm like I need some help and I don't know why I need help This is should be something I can do on my own. I remember you're like you said basically all you were seeing are hearing was like white noise Like your abilities just kind of shut off everything went completely blank I was hearing basically the TV at max volume static.

Well, it's funny because I did the same thing with B I text her out of the blue. I'm like, hey, are you having any issues with your ability? Oh, yes for the last couple weeks of the live and have this problem So that's shortly after that we're just like we're done. You don't have a succubus You just have mental health issues Yeah, yeah Well, that was one and that was a nasty spirit the hard part with that whole case in general is the fact that the actual victim didn't necessarily Want help right so it wasn't the one that contacted me there was his cousin right and that was the issues that basically all our Mediums were getting the tar beat out of them over this and it was something where we really didn't have the means ability Well with the ability and the means but the actual victim didn't have the desire to be helped and so it's like why are we getting the Tar beaten out of us for nothing we might not be done with that case either Randy was having She had a premonition dream not that long ago that basically suggested that there was a succubus after somebody Well, and interestingly enough her premonition dreams have been relatively fruitful really accurate Yeah, I know that she had one word basically in fact She had it two years ago where she saw herself choking me at a basement and that actually happened like a year later Everything happened to a T except for the part where she was speaking Spanish she didn't actually do that All being where she was I'm sure she could have yeah So we are pointing one at you.

Uh-huh we do finally have another spirit stepped up for D.N. I was like no We've already talked to one for D.N. We'll talk to that one next. We'll come back.

We'll come back But when we do readings Castle never gets a reading ever and I'm like okay somebody's got to step up here This one is a female that stepped up for you That I almost want to say to grandmother okay Very very very white hair. I'm trying to cut out be you don't know who that is I know it is maybe I'm Pearl is it almost a grandma. Yeah, I think I think I'm almost I Wish that video is still going because then you see the end I roll it was so Now it clicked. I'm like oh yeah, pretty sure okay So it was an Pearl so you have to tell me if because I'm not really seeing clearly on the eye color But it's either a like a very bright blue or almost like a crystal green.

That sounds about right. It's super super light. Uh-huh Some it may have been you too. So but you and somebody else had talked about her Relatively recently.

Yep. We talked about her all the time. It was a couple of episodes ago when we didn't really have anything to talk about So we I'm pretty sure we talked about the the dream house I've never met the woman, but I know exactly who it is. It's just aunt that they used to live with her.

I had Krista would be her name That's awesome. Smile. She would love this rins from here. Yeah, we did recently talk about her on So that was dancing at Krista by the way, that was not right You know what though the funniest part when you talk about EVPs is was it life on the rocks that caught the EVP mid recording session?

We've had a couple more cut EVPs and it's funny because now I have to like tag our podcast because what if someone like Yeah, we got 15 emails or an EVP So smiling ear to ear the one thing that she has to say is it's about time you did something for you Okay It's about time you did something for you and that sounds exactly like something that she would say so And now does gone now look at his now look at his face. It's like he's searching going He needs to grow his hair back so we can have blonde so that it like matches exactly what his personality is Can you know what I just realized this is a little off the subject We're gonna come back who stepped up for me, but as siblings do you realize that we are wearing the exact same? It's like we're in uniform right Grace what's in the black shirt? We're both dorky.

That's just And then there's me the one person who had to show up with like completely formal attire Do you want to air this publicly no no, I'm pretty sure I know what it is to Before we jump into the answer I'm gonna put in again I've told Gary this and I've talked to you about doing readings before and it's like you always get the smiling face Like there's something you want to tell me but at the same time I get the feeling that you don't want to because you want me to figure it out on my own and I still haven't figured out yet I knew it you know, but I still haven't figured out what it is yet And I know he's gonna wait until I figured out before he tells me It's like seriously the first time we ever met I told him I said there's something that you need to figure out You need to open your eyes open your abilities and figure this out Well, I'm not allowed to tell you one of the first things I remember to is hey There's some negative energy in your shoulder here first time I met you. Yep. There's negative shit here Let's just pull that out. I think we finally got that all didn't we can yes with the help of Amanda and Brandy they were able to remove it all Thanks Larry It was Larry he's just a complete Part of Larry's shoulder he imprints it himself in mm-hmm.

That's it's several other spirits. So let's talk about did anchor Is there anything else there's that cave smile where yes? She does? Just say it.

I'm trying to I'm trying to put it sensitively. Do we need to talk after podcast? Quite possibly Information that needs not be our public right all right. Yeah, we'll hang on to it But let's move on to the ends and but she smiles at you also so you get a little contact Um, she that is that she will assist she'll be assisting in you and Don's thing yes She's quite happy about that She she said that Yeah, it is she goes.

That's a little weird for you to talk about that I'm not Mormon and so for me to get information from The experience that are coming through relaying messages on the religion. I know the religion well But I'm not not quite there So she's saying when it comes to time to do that process They go to family and say we need one or two people specifically to come and be a part of it as kind of the spiritual witnesses Can I jump in real quick is it okay? I? Tell our little search what we're talking about so they're not confused.

Um, there's that confusion is the best right? Well, I'm pretty with tell you nothing Welcome to my group The end is in the process of trying to use for those for LDS one thing the other church teaches is that you can be married for forever Not just tell that to be apart and the process is called ceiling and you can only be sealed to one person at one time And so it is possible to get an unsealing It's difficult and it takes a lot of work, but yeah, it's in the process of trying to get that done So she can be sealed silent done so that's kind of what Kate is talking about continue They use handcuffs so she will be in your case. They went with one person They figured that you both have pretty good connection with her and that she would be the best one to be the witness Well, awesome. I'm excited about that.

So and here's the funny thing because you say that sometimes you like validation I actually had a dream about her and it was when I was going through my divorce And in the dream and if I told the stream last time I feel vaguely like I said this before stop me some way for hands Stop it And in the stream I was in like a dark room You know kind of a sepia colored everything's kind of antiquey sepia looking and the door was cracked open And she was standing outside the door, you know dressed in white and very very bright and in the dream I could tell that she wanted to tell me something But she was in a she's like I can't talk to you because you're in a very dark place, right? And so I don't know we have talked about that before yeah So all of this is kind of meshing together so very cool And that was that's kind of more of what we call the premonition dream That's that was more of an she came into your dream and said wake up. Yep mother roses Yep She did because at the time I was trying to decide is this what I need to do and that's kind of what pushed me over the edge of yeah I gotta get out and she's not so cool about that with Castle and she didn't give him any fancy dreams about I Was your favorite? How about anything I was ask her I was her favorite.

She might have been I hate to break it. Yeah, she was She was a favorite out of everybody victory arms and it wasn't it wasn't just the sibling rivalry It was I still think we're in the world. I think we're the favorite nephew. Yes.

Yeah, you were the favorite pair by far. Yeah that I knew Yeah, that's interesting. You know and to kind of go just off topic just for a slight second Dreams are very interesting because there's dreams that are just that their dreams right But there are dreams that are premonition dreams or I'll even use a word regulatory dreams that and I hate those Passion see I love them. I've had some and they're fantastic And but you have to be paying attention to know what you're which but if you pay attention You can tell which ones are the the premonition or the regulatory dreams.

I want those dreams I don't like my dreams, but they're pretty neat getting a kayak on I don't like the dreams. I've been having lately I I don't like I don't like the dreams. That's the answer My my dreams I literally about a week or so ago. I literally woke up screaming Like that's how afraid I was my dream and that's not very easy to scare me as you guys know I was literally screaming when I woke up.

I was surprised knowing I came in to see what the hell's going on You she's actually attractive We need to maybe have a whole episode on dream sometime Yeah, there's I had some of those rebel trade dreams I will not share in this setting at least right just because they're so very personal and very very real So yeah, I won't share and it's interesting because this isn't the first time we've talked about dreams when we had the Missed investigation ice cream treat. Oh, that's right. We we talked about them then as well Which is actually that was a really fun investigation that we didn't have right? We had a investigation cancel and so we went to call storm creamry and I had can do readings and that annoyed me That man called me like every day and told me the same stories for like 45 minutes daily to the point where I didn't want to answer When he called and then he wasn't there.

He knows you know to his own home So yeah, it was coming through that was an interesting one, okay Don't know what the purpose is, but I'm supposed to tell all three of you hello from your favorite friends from family tree Oh, that would be Lucy. That was my phone That wasn't all the things though Really From the family tree is actually the skinwalker so is he My favorite is the skinwalker he's incredible But silent on and I went there for something that was not go something even though I did take a K2 Use it though and what since I walked in I could feel Lucy raise her little hackles and Instantly the skinwalker came over and basically said they're just here to eat back off and he stood there the whole time We ate and he does that every time I show up we'll be sitting at a table I've gone down there twice now once by myself and once with my wife and both times he sat by the table and he's like Like him leave him alone. You know, I wish I was there They recently had a very special celebrity show up at any other restaurant I would have loved to see in his face To have been there because he could have roundhouse kicked Lucy in the face and sent her packing because nobody messes with Chuck No, thanks, right Cory posted pictures with him and I would love to investigate with Chuck nor see him roundhouse kick He would be a fun one. Well, I think that's about it for episode tonight We got anybody else oh That was nothing that can be aired Fair enough well, I think we're gonna call it up for tonight Are we gonna recon you know what so we talked about on the last episode I know I've got a couple submissions already that's just about ready to talk about is that our contest ghost story contest It can be real or fake.

Please limit it to about three pages We will be going through these and we will pick a winner I'm gonna cut the contest towards the end of June because one of the prizes options is the fear factor investigation We can do I so I'll post a little pick of finish date here soon. We'll post on Facebook But we will go through and read the submissions and the story that we find to be the best like it could be a funny story scary story True story fake story whatever you want. Please note in the story whether or not It's true or if it's fake if you just made it up that would be helpful but we will read the winners story on air and Paul Welch at paranormal veracity magazine will also publish it in his magazine and then we will invite you to join us at either fear factory Or our Benson grist mill barbecue slash investigation that we are having come up. Yeah, so I'm glad you mentioned I was actually was gonna go with that with that contest.

We've had a few submissions We would certainly like some more and again you can send those to contact at wisp.org or castle at wisp.org or Tim with sta org anyone those email addresses should get those submissions to us And I may even depending on the story the content I may even have a dramatic reading them by maybe chunk or somebody else depending on I can be dramatic Well, I was gonna say I'm gonna see whose voice will fit the story But I'm gonna open that if it's like if it's like a darker like scary story I'm I dibs. Okay, if it's a happier funny story What we'll actually do is we'll actually probably record that separately on like maybe a separate day You know who to get dark Andy actually dark Andy be another one and so we've got some different voices who could do those So we'll kind of reach up some of our other podcast friends And we may do ourselves just paying work. We'll see who fits the story is kind of what it comes down to So keep them coming you can have my son read it He'd do it in really annoying British accent. Yeah, he's out Anyway, thank you for those who want readings from Caden again, it's caden matinson calm You want to spell that out first cadence as I watch the last time it's KADEN MATT I N SON I think I missed an end one.

I did last time. Yeah I will I will link it on both our Facebook page and on wisps just to throw this out there What are your prices? That's actually a good question. So I was just gonna go there So the the easiest way to get ahold of me probably right now is the Utah County medium page on Facebook If you haven't already done so go like it.

I'm gonna announce another contest here shortly But as far as price is concerned if you want a private reading 30 minutes at the dollar a minute So $30 for 30 minutes $60 for 60 minutes, which is very very reasonable price Yeah, because the lady that actually we help last night She wanted her eating done and the person that she had contacted previously wanted about $100 for an hour right So that's actually gonna kill her dill caden I think is you know is fair if you're dealing with some of the celebrity mediums who that is what they make they're living on and You know they have been all over the place Go for it if you want to pay that much to go see somebody do it But we I set my prices so that everyday people who can't necessarily afford that can still come in and get the information that they need So again caden matson calm. Well, I have it linked on both the wisp page and Facebook page So you can reach out him for readings other than that everybody have a good night and we will be back in two weeks I'll see you later peace out butterflies You're listening to the wisps was that investigative studies for paranormal science? They're grown as adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something