If it's one day, six months into his second term, new polls show President Trump support sliding as he loses ground on key issues like the economy and immigration as he tries to turn the page on the Epstein saga. Plus, more than 100 people reportedly killed in back-to-back incidents at aid distribution sites in Gaza. Civilians shot while trying to collect desperately needed food as the hunger and humanitarian crisis worsens. And Harvard University clashes with the Trump administration in court, asking a federal judge to declare billions of dollars in cuts to their federal research funding unlawful.
The latest case to test the limits of executive power. Hi there, welcome to Meet the Press. I'm Ryan Nobles. Six months into his second term, the president is trying to focus attention to his administration's accomplishments and away from the controversy around the deceased convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
The president this weekend touting his wins. We achieved more in six months than almost any administration could accomplish in eight years. And we're going to have a lot of good six months left. We're going to have a six and another six and another six.
So we'll keep going. And we're going to really do something with something I'm very proud of. That even as new polling shows the public's approval of Mr. Trump and his agenda is lagging.
A CBS YouGov poll found that Mr. Trump's overall approval rating has fallen more than 10 points since February. And on the president's key issues, a CNN poll found the approval of the president's handling of immigration has dropped 19 points since March. That same CBS YouGov poll showing his handling of the inflation dropping 20 points.
And additionally, on his signature piece of legislation, the so-called one big beautiful bill, 47 percent say it will hurt their families, setting up a tough sell for Republicans in next year's midterm elections. It all comes as the president is trying to move past the anger from his base over his administration's handling of the Epstein case, which has dogged the White House since the DOJ announced two weeks ago that it would not release any more documents related to Epstein. Today, the White House press secretary pushing back on the suggestion that there's any division within the base. We cited over the weekend some polls showing that his approval rating with the Republican Party is actually at an all time high.
He's polling 90 to 95 percent amongst Republicans right now. That's higher than any Republican president or any leader of this party ever. The president is the creator and the leader of the Make America Great Again movement. It's his baby that he that he made.
But still, polling shows that 75 percent are overall dissatisfied with how the administration has handled the case. That includes, of course, large majorities of Democrats and independents. But look at this Republican number. Nearly half of Republicans are unhappy as well.
The president, who's remained largely out of the public eye these past few days, was very active on social media, seemingly trying to change the conversation away from Epstein, including suggesting that he might block the Washington commanders D.C. stadium deal unless the team changes its name back to one which was widely considered offensive to Native Americans. And posting an AI generated video of former President Obama being arrested in the Oval Office and apparent reference to new, unsubstantiated claims from the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, that the Obama administration, quote, manufactured intelligence to undermine President Trump's 2016 election win. Joining me to talk about all of this is our NBC News team, White House correspondent Vaughn Hilliard, law enforcement and intelligence correspondent Tom Winter and senior national political reporter Sahil Kapoor has the latest from Capitol Hill.
Vaughn, let's start with you. How significant is it that the president can't seem to make this controversy over Epstein go away, especially considering how much fallout there is from his own base? Right. I think it's notable, Ryan, that this is somebody who does not typically make concessions.
And that's what he has done by going and seeking the Department of Justice to go to court to have the unsealing of the grand jury transcripts from the Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein indictments. Of course, Tom can get into the details of this. That is a far cry from actually calling for the unsealing of a great vast amount of other evidence that would maybe be more revealing of other associates of Jeffrey Epstein and any details that could relate to potentially the President Trump himself here. At the same time, this is where the Wall Street Journal article that came out last week suggests that there is not potentially criminal in nature, unflattering substance that could very well exist inside of Epstein files.
But that is where the president here is not for now more than two weeks and able to push this aside because for years now, some of his most fervent supporters, one of their key rallying cries has been the idea of putting President Trump back into the White House so that he and his Department of Justice could reveal and unseal all of the Epstein files because of the very serious claims that they make. We know that Jeffrey Epstein, Ryan, had a vast number of victims in very serious cases that Jeffrey Epstein was directly involved in. At the same time, there is another bucket of conspiracy theories that supporters of the president believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a part of here. And so there's a lot to this at the same time.
The president is clearly not able to get this and push this aside. And to that end, Vaughn, he appears to be frustrated, according to our reporting, that he's the one taking the heat over this instead of the Department of Justice. If this doesn't take from the headlines soon, I mean, he's been very loyal to Pam Bondi. Could that change?
Right. We have not heard from Pam Bondi taking questions or being out front. It was the president that told his supporters to effectively move along. They've revealed everything that they need to reveal.
At the same time, Pam Bondi is very clearly standing in line with the president himself and effectively following his desires in this. He had suggested about unsealing the grand jury transcripts, and that is what the Department of Justice is moving to do. And so in many ways here, the president is surrounded by entities that are looking to defend him. And so I think that for him, that is a very key element to all of this.
OK, let's move over to Tom Winter. Von, thank you for that. Tom, as we mentioned, the DOJ has a motion to unseal that grand jury transcript. What comes next?
Is there any reason to think that the judge will grant that motion? Well, I think so. I mean, the courts, particularly in the Southern District of New York and the appellate courts, have taken a look at this issue in a case going back to the 1990s, Ryan. And in the course of that, they looked at it and they established really kind of non-considerations for a judge to think about in order to grant one of these requests to unseal something.
This is something that's come up over the years with independent people, independent reporters, independent scholars taking a look at specific individuals or cases and hoping to get more information, particularly when an individual is deceased. And that was the case with the with the precedent controlling case that I'm referring to. And so one of the things that the judges and the courts have ruled out here is or put out there rather, is whether or not federal prosecutors agree with it or moving for the records to be unsealed. And of course, that's exactly what's happening here in the letter from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.
They're saying that they want the secrecy veil removed. And that's something that the courts overseeing this particular case and in this district have said that the judges should strongly consider. Also looking at the passage of time, whether or not any individuals are deceased or not. Obviously, Jeffrey Epstein, the man we're looking at next to me, is deceased, dead by suicide.
And then also whether or not there's a consideration for other witnesses that the Justice Department's already said that they're willing to redact names of victims. So it appears, at least in the initial four page filing that they've addressed some of the court's concerns or where of the precedent. And so I don't think it's a remote possibility at all that some of these records could be unsealed. But newsflash, Ryan, we kind of know what they're already going to say because it was the type of records, the transcripts, the testimony that came out to lead a grand jury to vote for the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein.
In the first place, and later Ghislaine Maxwell, who we're looking at on screen. And so the information contained within those indictments are things that we've well known or in fact, in the case of Maxwell, have seen at a trial that led to her conviction. So as far as any additional parties here, Ryan, it's probably unlikely we're going to glean new information outside of those indictments. Okay, so this has been talked about a lot.
This is a pretty narrow request in terms of information, as you rightly point out. So is there any other route the government could take to get more information unsealed? Well, certainly there've been a number of FOIAs filed over the years. There've been a number of news organizations, including this one, who have asked for documents in the past.
But the question becomes, given the size and scope of this investigation, it was voluminous. The number of U.S. attorneys office and FBI offices that looked at this. How far back are you willing to go and how many 302s are you willing to, as a report of an investigation, are you willing to put out there?
And then the challenge, you know, as our colleague and legal analyst Chuck Rosenberg wrote about and provided information to us about last week. The challenge on this is that a number of individuals' names are going to come up. For instance, I might say, well, in the course of this conduct, Tom, did you ever work with Ryan Welcome back. Turning now to the Mideast and what appears to be the Trump administration's increasing frustration with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
The U.S. brokered ceasefire between Israel and Syria is holding for now, but according to a new report in Axios, last week Israeli strikes in Syria alarmed some in the White House, with one White House official saying, quote, Bibi acted like a madman. He bombs everything all the time. This could undermine what Trump is trying to do.
This afternoon, the White House Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt, tried to downplay the President's frustrations. The President enjoys a good working relationship with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu and stays in frequent communication with him. He was caught off guard by the bombing in Syria and also the bombing of a Catholic church in Gaza, which, as you know, I addressed at my briefing last week. And in both accounts, the President quickly called the Prime Minister to rectify those situations.
Meanwhile, it was another deadly weekend in Gaza with two more incidents of Israeli troops opening fire at crowds gathering at aid distribution sites, including a convoy of U.N. World Food Program trucks. In a statement, the U.N. Secretary General said he was, quote, appalled by the accelerating breakdown of humanitarian conditions in Gaza.
NBC News International correspondent Matt Bradley has more. Well, just in the past couple of hours, Israel has expanded its operations in Der al-Bala, which is in the central part of the Gaza Strip. They've issued an expansive evacuation order joining onto other evacuation orders. It looks as though it's putting tens of thousands of people back onto the move.
Most of these people have been displaced many, many times before. Now, all of this comes a day after we saw one of, if not the deadliest incident involving the recent regime of aid distribution in the Gaza Strip, which has also attracted a great deal of controversy. Palestinian health officials in Gaza, which is ruled by Hamas, have said that around 100 people were killed when gunshots were fired at a United Nations aid distribution site yesterday. The previous day before that, it was at a Gaza humanitarian foundation site, one of only four operated by that U.S.
and Israeli backed organization. So the situation is dire in the Gaza Strip after having suffered from all of those weeks and months of blockades. Now it looks as though people are putting their lives in their hands trying to save their lives. Matt Bradley, thank you for that report.
Joining me now on set is NBC News senior national security correspondent Courtney Kube. I think it's difficult for us to wrap our minds around just how bleak things are in Gaza. This is a humanitarian crisis. There's also a question of where these people could go.
You had some reporting earlier this year about potential efforts to move Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip. What can you tell us? Where do things stand with that plan? Yeah, and Trump administration officials have also told us that this is something that the president has been prioritizing.
He wants to try to move Palestinians out of Gaza into other countries. But the big question is where? One of the more of the countries that we learned about several months ago was Libya. And that seems to be so very much in play right now, Ryan.
The possibility of voluntarily moving Palestinians from Gaza to Libya. But that's not without difficulty. There's the logistics of getting them there, for starters. There's also where do you put them?
There's a housing shortage in Libya already. And then how do you necessarily convince them to leave? This is their homeland. Much of the Palestinians see themselves as very connected to that strip of land, to the Gaza Strip.
And it may be difficult to get them out of there. But the reality is, as we've just been seeing in that reporting by Matt, our colleague Matt, the situation there is so dire that it's possible that maybe some will decide to leave with some of the incentives that the Trump administration and other countries are talking about. It would be hard to imagine that that would solve all the problems. What do these people do for work?
How are they fed? All those things along those lines. But if the Trump administration or Israel combined to work out a plan like this, is this something that the other Arab nations would just go along with? Would they be okay with this?
So the voluntary part would be a big part of it. If any kind of a forced relocation would be met with a ton of resistance throughout not just the region, but really throughout many countries in the world. A voluntary would be a little bit more plausible, but I think the concern is if you're moving a large population of people to a neighboring country, that could cause destabilization. Everything you just said, housing, additional food, jobs, all of those things could cause the possibility.
So even if you're talking about a place like Libya, that's been under more than a decade now, almost two decades of war. How do you move people in there to a place that already is still in conflict and is still facing problems with housing and food shortages and jobs? Those are the concerns that many Arab partners and Arab nations have in the region. I mean, there's an airport there.
Have you already talked about the logistics of this? How would you even, are they even discussing how you get this many people? Would you do it by boat, by train? How would it happen?
The officials we spoke with are considering every option. So by boat, by train, by car, which would not be a short journey. And then by air. But as you mentioned, there's no airstrip there.
So everything about this would be a logistics hurdle. But this is something that not only Trump administration officials, but those outside the government have been working on now for months. And it looks as if they're still working through it. And Libya still remains one of the real options.
They're looking at other places too, North Africa, other countries in the area. And you used the word voluntary, and obviously that's got to be a big part of it. But even under a voluntary circumstance, couldn't there be a level of coercion in trying to get people from one place to another? Absolutely.
And you can even look at the situation right now, just with what's happening with this violence, with this terrible food shortages, medical shortages, everything, the basic necessities these people are facing. Well, as part of that, an effort to just try to push them out. You know, you could even look at it that way. That's going to be, if in fact they start moving Palestinians out of Gaza, it's going to be hugely controversial and it's going to be extremely expensive.
It's gonna be a logistic hurdle, and it's something that if in fact they move people out to places like Libya, the world will watch for years to see exactly how it changes that country and changes the region. Okay, Courtney, thank you for staying on top of it. We appreciate it. And we are now following some breaking news.
The Trump administration has just released thousands of FBI records on Martin Luther King Jr. The documents inside include details about how the FBI's investigation into King's assassination and the release comes despite opposition from the civil rights leaders family. NBC News justice reporter Ryan Riley joins me now with more on this breaking news. So Ryan, I guess the big question is, why now?
Well, this was something that Donald Trump had ordered, but you know, there was that famous video of that Fox News interview that Donald Trump did where he was talking about what he would order declassified and talk about the JFK files, the MLK files and then the Epstein files. And the Epstein files are the one he sort of held back on there. And that's of course, what is really dominating the news, or at least was as of a couple days ago. And this, you know, the timing of this, I think certainly raises a few eyebrows.
Obviously, this is something that's been in the works for a while. So the exact timing, but combined with a number of other stories that we saw today, along with some of Donald Trump's posts from overnight, you know, it seems as though changing the topic from Epstein is, it seems to be a major focus here for sure, Ryan. And this is not something the King family is in favor of. They voiced their opposition to this release.
Why don't they want this information out there? Well, you know, I mean, there are definitely a lot of personal information that would be coming out. They did have a statement from a conservative member of Dr. King's family who was sort of supporting this in the press release that they put out in connection with this.
And you've had a mention from Pam Bondi praising Dr. King as a great American. So this, I mean, there are definitely questions about how much information is in regards to his personal life should be, you know, put out in the public there. So that's, but a lot of this has to do with, and it could, you know, fuel conspiracy theories.
A lot of this has to do with the chase and the sort of hunt for his assassin. So I think that that's, you know, but obviously this is an enormous amount of documents. It's gonna take a long time for people to actually go through them and see if there's anything really new that comes along over the course of what came out here. And could there be information released that could potentially be seen as damaging to Dr.
King or his legacy? I think that remains to be seen, right? Because we have so much material that still has to be gone through and put in the context of what was already known. You know, obviously there are some great biographies out there about Dr.
King that look, you know, including a trilogy that looks over the course of his life. So this is something that's been closely studied. Some files have come out before, but I think, you know, this mostly is going to be focused on the assassination. But it remains to be seen, I think, what exactly is going to be in the attorney just before that hearing started, and we do know that Breonna Taylor's mother, Tamika Palmer, was slated to give a victim impact statement.
We do also know from motions before the hearing that the defense was also going to recommend and ask the judge for a lower sentence than that advisory amount of time from the probation office. But what's happening right now, what's been happening for the past couple of hours, Ryan, we just don't know. That's wild. Let's say the sentence is more than what the DOJ recommended.
Couldn't they or President Trump just vacate or dismiss Hankinson's conviction? They could. You know, we've seen this before with President Trump, not shy about using his pardon power, not shy about using his ability to commute or reduce someone's sentence. All of that could be on the table in just terms of the powers that the president has.
I actually brought that up. I asked the family attorney about that. They said that's something they're aware of, but look for this family that's been dealing with this, that has been grieving publicly for the past five years since March of 2020 when Breonna Taylor was killed in that botched raid. This could be a sense of closure and the idea that you're ending the trial, you're ending this process with this sentence.
But that is definitely something that they said they're aware of, they're thinking about, and they hope to not have to face, Ryan. OK, Jack, stand by for us. If you do get news out of that courtroom, please let us know. We'll put you back on with that report.
Jack, thank you so much. We appreciate it. And before we go to break, we do have some sad news from the world of entertainment. Actor Malcolm-Jamal Warner has died in a drowning accident while on vacation in Costa Rica, according to authorities.
Warner played Theo Huxtable, the son of Bill Cosby's character, Dr. Cliff Huxtable, on The Cosby Show from 1984 until the show's end in 1992. Warner later reflected on the show's legacy in light of the sexual assault allegations against Cosby, telling People magazine, quote, I'm still proud of the legacy and having been part of such an iconic show that had such a profound impact on, first and foremost, Black culture, but also American culture. In addition to the role of Theo Huxtable, Malcolm-Jamal Warner acted in numerous other TV shows and was a Grammy award-winning musician.
He was just 54 years old. Welcome back. One year ago today, the 2024 presidential campaign was turned upside down. It seems like a lot more than a year when President Biden announced that he was ending his reelection bid and endorsing his vice president, Kamala Harris, after weeks of questions and speculations following his disastrous performance in his June debate with President Trump.
Harris, of course, went on to lose to President Trump. Now the Democratic Party is conducting an after-action report on why they fell short in November. But according to the New York Times, that audit is not expected to address President Biden's decision to run in the first place, the timing of his decision to drop out, or key decisions made by the Harris campaign. That's according to six people briefed on the report's progress.
Party officials described the draft document as focusing on the 2024 election as a whole, but not the presidential campaign, which is something like eating at a steakhouse and then reviewing the salad. Joining me on set is Rhonda Colvin. She's the senior congressional reporter at The Washington Post. Anthony Cooley, former Justice Department spokesman under President Biden and an NBC News contributor.
And Rob Louie, the president and executive editor of The Daily Signal. So, Rhonda, I mean, it's hard not to roll your eyes when you see that the Democratic Party is going to conduct an audit that doesn't address kind of all the big things that we all have questions about. Why Biden stayed in so long, how the Harris campaign ran itself, and the decision to drop itself out. Is this a serious accounting of what went wrong?
You know, I guess we'll have to leave it up to the Democrats and their voters to decide if it's serious and warranted for a time like this. But what I keep thinking of is that, you know, on one hand, Trump is such an unconventional candidate, right? People even drop from his own party if they can't run against his brand of, or run with his brand of politics. So in order to audit what went wrong with the Democrats, it seems like something that just can't possibly really be done in a satisfactory way.
So there's that on the one hand. But on the other hand, you think, given the fact that, as you said, a year ago, the former President Biden decides to drop out. You had another candidate who you might want to look at that campaign to see what happened along the timeline of why she did not carry it through because she was well-funded around this time last year. So it seems like that would serve Democrats better if they did look at what they can understand, but also understanding that Trump is so unconventional.
It's sort of hard to decide what went wrong. Right. So, Anthony, maybe the Democratic Party doesn't want to answer some of these tough questions, but the president's son does. Listen to what Hunter Biden has to say about that period of time.
I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world, basically the mileage he could have flown around the world three times. He's 81 years old. He's tired.
You give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and he looks like he's a deer in headlights. I kind of feel like that's what people were concerned about, that he was 81 years old and he was as tired as he said. I mean, a lot of things can be true here.
So he was 81 years old and he did take two trips to back and forth from Europe. I give him that. That's not why he lost the race, though. Right.
You can have the best message in the world. You can have the best policy agenda in the world. But at the end of the day, if you don't have a trusted messenger, somebody that voters think can go the distance, somebody who has stamina, then you're going to lose. And that's what happened on the presidential level in 2024.
And I think what Hunter Biden didn't say is that people started losing confidence in Joe Biden, whom I love, who I work for in his administration, right after the Afghanistan debacle. Do you remember that? It was August of 2022. Like his polling never recovered after Afghanistan.
And people voted for Biden, right, because of competence, in part because of competence. And so the midterms, I think, gave and that year gave the Biden team a little more confidence than they should have had. But that was the moment where he really should have bowed out and we should have had a robust primary process. But let's get back to Hunter Biden.
Rob, I have to imagine a conservative sees him talking and talking the way he's talking and thinking this is like manna from heaven. Why is he reentered this conversation? Democrats have to be part of wanting to say, just go away, right? Sure, absolutely.
And you're seeing conservatives, including Speaker Johnson and others, really taking advantage of today's anniversary of Biden dropping out and putting out videos and saying, look at what Democrats hid from the American people over the course of the years that he was president. But Ryan, going back to what Hunter Biden said and what the Democrats are doing with their audit, I think ultimately comes down. The American people were facing an affordability crisis during Biden's presidency. The cost of living had gone up, but they couldn't afford gas, groceries and rent.
These were the things that they were voting on. And this is, I think, why they rejected Biden and the policies that his administration was pursuing. They went on a spending spree in Washington, D.C. that led to historic levels of inflation in this country.
And they said we want to put in place somebody like Donald Trump who we think can bring back some common sense. And that's ultimately, I think, what Republicans will be judged on in next year's midterms. Ok, so let's make that point because that, I think, is what the administration would want the perception to be of what's happening in the White House right now. But you take a look at what Republicans are doing.
Every chance they get, they're trying to bring up the past, right? They are talking about Joe Biden. They're investigating his use of an auto pen. They're now talking about Hillary Clinton's emails again with a release from the Judiciary Committee.
Do voters really care about Joe Biden? Do they care about this release that Tulsi Gabbard has had about another investigation of the Russia investigation? Is that what voters care about? Especially when you talk about the reason they won in 2020 was that focus on these kitchen table issues.
I think Republicans do care about holding those accountable who may have taken actions that they deem were never really, they were never really punished for, for those particular things. But I do think that at the end of the day, yes, I mean, when you're casting a vote for somebody, you're probably not looking backward. You're looking to the future and you're looking to see who am I going to be better off? Are my personal finances going to be better under a Republican or a Democrat?
And as we see from polling, you know, Democrats are not performing particularly well in the generic ballot right now compared to previous midterm cycles. And so I ultimately think that Republicans need to get out there and sell what's in the one big beautiful bill. And if they're not effective at doing that, then they will be in some trouble. The other thing they care about is politicians keeping their word.
And Donald Trump, particularly with regard to Jeffrey Epstein, is not keeping his word to his base. And I There's a few left, and for a variety of reasons, they couldn't process. What shouldn't happen is they should not be sent back to the Taliban. They should either come here or be sent somewhere where they're safe and they're able to go on with their lives.
They've been stuck in limbo for three years, Ryan, and it's really awful. Yeah, so let's turn now to the layoffs at the State Department. They've included cuts to the leadership team of the Office of Coordinator for Afghan relocation efforts, often known as CARE. What impact has that had on your organization and its ability to do its work?
And what message does that send to our Afghan partners? Sure, so a couple things there, right? One, Afghan evac helped build CARE. We, in the aftermath of the withdrawal, were part of the large swath of people that stood up.
We sort of competed with everybody. We helped build CARE. CARE served not just the various third-country locations where we would fly Afghans from Kabul to those third-country locations and then move them on to the United States after successful processing. There were hundreds of people that worked at CARE, dedicating their lives to this mission.
And this administration just wiped them all away. They fired one woman who gave birth 12 hours before. It's just absolutely unconscionable. And look, even the folks that are stuck at UAE, they were being served by CARE.
So we're hopeful that with the president's tweet this weekend, that we're going to see a renewed commitment to making sure that the, you know, the 40 or so Afghans that are still in the UAE make it to safety. The 1,500 Afghans that are still in Doha, Qatar, Camp Asliya, make it to safety. Among those are active duty military families, female tactical platoon members, special immigrant visa holders, a variety of folks who stood up for the idea of America and are now at risk because of their relationship to us. So we hope that the president will not just help the few Afghans that are in UAE, that he'll help all of these folks, up to 260,000 or so, around the world who fought for us.
Yeah, and when you talk to these refugees that are still stuck in the pipeline, there must be such a degree of uncertainty. What do they say to you? What are they most worried about? Well, it's just that, right?
It's the uncertainty that looms over them. They just wanna know what is coming for them. When President Trump shut down and during welcome the safest, most secure legal immigration program that our country's ever seen on January 20th, it caused a lot of chaos and disruption. We've seen reception placements, so special immigrant visa holders when they arrive here can get help to restart their lives.
But that was off for a long time. And refugees can't move at all. And there are about 60,000 folks in the refugee pipeline who are every bit as deserving as special immigrant visa holders, of which there are about 167,000 remaining to come. There are 32,000 SIVs with a principal applicant SIVs, but there's only 9,000 principal applicant visas remaining.
So Congress has a lot left to do and the administration could just start moving this. President Trump could solve it today by telling Stephen Miller to get out of the way and stop breaking promises to our veterans. Back in May, DHS announced that it was ending temporary protected status for Afghanistan. The issue is still tied up in the courts, but in their statement, DHS said at the time, the secretary determined that overall there are notable improvements in the security and economic situation such that requiring the return of Afghan nationals to Afghanistan does not pose a threat to their personal safety due to the ongoing armed conflict or extraordinary and temporary conditions.
Is that true? Is that your sense of what the situation is like in Afghanistan? What is the reality of Taliban rule there now? No, the reality is that people are dying, that women can barely exist there.
They can't go to school, they can't go to work. They can't even be seen through the windows in their own home. They have to draw the shades. The reality is that they're hunting down and arresting people who are connected to our mission.
Christianity is so far off base on this. It is just unconscious. Like any person with a brain and eyes can see that it's not safe in Afghanistan. I would encourage the secretary if she believes it to be so safe, that she take her family there on a nice vacation without security detail.
Okay, Sean Candiver, thank you so much for your expertise and your work on this. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. And we'll be back tomorrow with more Meet the Press now, but as always, the news continues to roll on.
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