Three, two. My god, you can go, look out. My balls is totally moving. Do any proof?
Here, now, that we get back. I'm going to hold it. It's like my balls are on fire. To the show.
Oh, she is. Chico. Pfft. Come here.
Ha ha ha. Oh, it's a four to July party today, and because his father got up and did stuff around the house. I mean, I did stuff around the house. I do.
You got to see me, Michael. I'm like, uh... Swiffer and... Mr.
Mom. Yeah. Mr. Mom.
Sorry. Mrs. Doutfire. I could do that.
I could wear a fat suit and titties and clean the house. I cleaned the house. If there's no kids involved, I'm not sure that still counts as Mrs. Doutfire.
Oh, I don't know if you've got a glory hole in your bed. Hey, man, it's not put up yet, so that is exciting. I got to tell you. I like the handlebars on it.
Yeah. That was an exciting thing. It's funny. I got a tutorial on how to set it up.
And in the tutorial, at one point, he recommends that I use extra long screws. Because... It's the only kind you do. Oh!
Oh, man. I couldn't do the show, man. Oh, yeah. Sorry.
I was gonna get to make it in a minute. Smoking broke in Chihuahua's. You know, maybe like... Glory holes.
So delayed. And I didn't want to... You know, punch my head. That was...
That was fast for me. Okay. Wait, 20 minutes, wait for another one. I forget that I didn't do it.
Yeah, but the glory hole... Shout out to Glory Hole Guy, by the way. He said, yeah, bigger screws, because one time it broke from me. I broke.
Yeah, pumping the door. So he's like, get extra shrink lines. Can you... I don't know why I go see it.
Can you... For people who will never have the pleasure, can you explain... I mean, I understand what a glory hole is, but to have one... Because I typically thought we'd think of...
Why do you want to see it? You want to get the gate. You see it. I'm not afraid of that.
I mean, I'll tell you what. I'm gonna... Well, so you're here to think. I'm gonna sit it to Miles, and then Miles can put it up for all of his...
Oh, no. Okay. I was gonna say, I'm a proxy for all the people who will never be in your bedroom. And certainly, there's someone that will look at you.
I had never seen one till today. Oh, because I think of him as being in remote locations. I think of a... Exactly.
Exactly. One thousand percent. So I just kind of want to know, is it like a divider? Like if you're in like a hospital room that has two beds?
No. Okay, I'm glad you... Right. This is great.
This is great. You're gonna learn to make and this is gonna be exciting. Okay, wonderful. You never use it, but it's still...
You never know. I mean, if you want to, you can come up here and use it. Okay. I can use glory.
Yeah. Exactly. I'll make you bring your... Oh, wow.
Oh, I mean... The email sent me a warning that says this message seems dangerous, which I've never... What did she know before? What did she know?
And I had to check out what it was in beta. I'm offended. Wow. That looks very dangerous.
I was like, you play cornhole. Yeah. Kind of. Yeah, see the handles?
Those are the grips you hang on. And then you pump the hole. Get it? Yeah, no.
Wait, wait, wait. So it's up against the closet. Examine, put it out. Okay.
There. Like I'll take that door out and I'll put that door on. So it'll open like an old school Western saloon door. Yeah.
And you'll hear... It's got padlocks on the other side so you lock it in. Yeah. And you'll be in there.
Yeah. You got to be on a reciprocant. Reciprocant of a... Well said.
I've never done that. Okay. I've never done that. So you've got as the owner of a glory hole it seems like it should be when it's a home game.
Right. You've got to be the catcher. I know. I know.
I know. But maybe I'll put it... What if I put it in backwards? So it's my glory hole.
But my dick is... What if you put it at the front gate and then people could drive up and present themselves to you? Right. And you just see me naked on the other side and show up?
The names will love that. You'd be like the neighbor from home and print? Oh my god. I'm having you in this room and it gave sex.
Like, uh, you know, it has you two on all this. So pull it up and pull it up and I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, it could be for passing. Or could you pass through there? Cause that's what they're for. People think that they're for sex, but they're not.
No, of course not. They're passing tolls. Yeah, it's a toll toll. Play this toll and you get a free ride.
Check out it. Two, yes. Glory town. Oh, glory town USA that I made up in my mind.
Yeah. And that's not bad. So you said you've been industrious and keeping up the home. I clean pull a lot in the backyard and I hose the water and sprinkler things broke.
I mean, they don't want to fix them. So there's no water squirting in the backyard in the grasses dine. So I spray the backyard and the front yard every day. And when I spray it, I make rainbows every day.
That's great. And it's probably my most favorite part of my day. Shout out to the visible spectrum. Yeah.
I don't think I've gone out there and hosed the backyard and not made of rainbows. I saw one on your Instagram. I make them on the daily. It was lovely.
And to know that I have the power to make a rainbow. Whenever I want to, it feels good. It feels good. I feel accomplished.
A human skiddle. Yeah. I'm probably more excited about making rainbows than having a glory hole. I feel like I'm going to rent it, Michael, so that people can go to Gloryville in their own minds and they can make videos and have to pay me because it's my studio.
Oh, so this is a money-making venture. You're building a facility. Yeah, it's a business. Right.
So you can make a club in your closet. Yes. Exactly like that. I'm going to do bottle service.
I thought you were already doing a bottle service. I am, but it's been fr- and that's not free. No, that's right. Yeah, I charge.
I'm making a lot of money out of that too. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah.
It turns out, people will rather that than me podcasting. No. Which is a bummer because I really like podcasting. I know.
I know. I know. I'm pretty much just doing it for the passion. Me too.
Tony and I just live for it, man. It's just like what we do. It's like funny. I know you're doing the exact same like that.
I'm just like, I've got a schedule. I've got a schedule for who? Nobody. And I can't decide if my wife doesn't know or if she's just humoring me.
But I'm like, listen, I would love to help you with this. But I really got to go down the basement and talk to myself for now. I'm like, I'm sure you understand. Yes, serious stuff.
She's like, meanwhile, she's talking to a professional mental health specialist. He's like, he doesn't sunk in yet that he's finished. Give him time. Give him time.
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And I've had the same ones up there for the longest time because I forget to take them or it's annoying. Some of them I get weird burps from them. And that's not very pleasant. I'm not sure what any of them we're doing when I even did remember to take them.
And I should probably clear them out and just put some more Crisco up there or something because they're not doing any good now that I've got AG1 in my life on the daily. Michael, I drink it every day and I feel great, you know? It's crazy. You can see what all of those minerals in my head.
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You got that? That's the name of the show. Yeah, the initials of it. Any repeat that back to me, please.
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Megan, you're not finished. You actually get paid to talk to microphones. I do. I do.
Is that fun? It is fun. It is. It is.
I really do. You feel it. Yeah, right. I barely did, but I do.
It wasn't. But podcasting is really hard. I had a podcast, but it's really hard to get people to give a shit about it. It's really hard.
But you know, I mean, you guys 1,000% have a much bigger following than I will ever have. Well, it's just different. You know, because podcasting is narrow casting, where you're very well known to a very small number of people. What you do is you're still a broadcaster.
You're a DJ among other places on the world famous care out here in Los Angeles, which means there's millions of people who are familiar with you. They don't necessarily all follow your Instagram or right. Right. Right.
You're a legitimate celebrity. I don't think so. You interviewed the singer of Silver Chase. I rest my case.
I had his request. Yes. When I saw that in our prep, thank you for doing that every week. I could feel Jason's heartbreaking a little bit.
It was tough. For a second, because check it out, I'll be totally honest. This is how I like to live my life. I'm so busy that I just don't know what's happening until it's happening.
Like I went to a podcast yesterday and I thought it was my friend Sarah, but it was another Sarah. I didn't know until I got in the room. I saw her and I was like, wait, that's not. Okay.
Well, that's cool. I like her too. So that worked out. And then I get the thing for you, a little bit about what you do or whatever.
I'm like, I already know you. Whatever. But I see Silver Chair and I just click on it. I just touch it.
I just touch it. I go, Silver Chair. What? And then I'm like, wait, is he coming in with me?
Because I'm so, and I'm like, wait, I'm going to talk to the singer. Silver Chair, this is a little too much for me. But he was serious. He was like, he is like, is he like, is he like, is he like, is he between us?
Is he gay? No, he is not at all. No. Yeah.
He's an artist. Yeah. Is that what that is? Yeah.
And he's just a very gentle soul. Yeah. Yeah, almost gay. Very sensitive.
Yeah. It was a wild experience. So the people who don't know at his personal request, you were flown to Australia to talk to him about a Silver Chair record? Yes.
So, well, so what it was, so I've been obsessed with Silver Chair since I was in high school. Like their album, Diorama, changed my life, which is the album that was like Make or Break for people because they were very grunge before that. And then Diorama was like, I don't know, like a rock opera, if you will, a little bit. It's a beautiful album.
But anyway, so I had just been in touch with him throughout the years. I got to go and interview him and Luke Steele from Empire of the Sun. Or they came to the K-Rock Coachella house because they did their project called Dreams. And that was the first time I met Daniel.
And you know, my head exploded. So we just kept in touch kind of throughout the years. So what happened was- It was for you. Oh no.
No. Yeah. He's he dates like supermodels. So what?
Did you have that for him? I'm not the kind of person that ever wants to- I don't ever see a famous person or someone in a band to go, I want to fuck that guy. Yeah, for sure. I'm not that kind of person.
I get that. I just never- It's somebody that really appealed to you when you were a professional. I totally understand. I respect that there's plenty of male front-end bands that you like that you weren't sexually attracted to us.
If you were down for the concept album, sounds like you might have a DTF as well. No. When I really respect someone, I'm just like, you just stay over here. That's a good policy.
But I'm in a very happy relationship. So basically his brother ends up reaching out to me because I had seen that Daniel had gotten into an accident. He was drinking and driving. He ended up head on collision into a car.
Oh wait, no he died today? No, they did not. Luckily. Luckily.
But I was very serious. And obviously he was, you know, got into some trouble legally and all that stuff. So I had kind of reached out and said, you know, just want to check in and make sure you're doing okay if you ever need someone to talk to because I've been sober seven and a half years. I'm pure for you, whatever.
So then his brother reached out and said, hey, we want you to come out here and interview Daniel about everything that happened and talk about the new album and just be here for like a week to, you know, they had like this whole gallery at this museum just kind of going through Daniel's whole career and stuff. So I really got to get immersed in it and actually go to Daniel's house to interview him. And it was one of those experiences in my life where I just could not believe that it was actually happening, you know. Was that his house in the interview?
Yes. So he's got a lot of money. Yes. Yeah.
I mean, he made that 90s music money. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I paid for that house. Yeah. You bought this over a chair.
Well, pretty much. Wow. I used to like to end my night with several renditions of one similar chair song over and over and over until I passed out. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. My ex-wife would tell me about it in the morning. She said she could hear me downstairs. What was usually the song tomorrow?
Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
He's back in the last thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's really, really, really big corrosion of conformity. Yeah. Well. You're so awesome.
Yeah. Like really, like really ridiculous, right? Yeah. Handful.
Infectious grooves. It's like late. Yes. I started to crack.
I started to crack and I was like, you know what? Maybe it can be fun. Maybe Blackest grouse. Yeah.
A gay. Yeah. classic 90 like Guns N' Roses or the cult where I didn't like the cult but it was fun to sing the cult really drunk Bon Jovi. I don't like Bon Jovi, I never liked Bon Jovi but living on a prayer I was singing like full-pelt everything I got.
Oh yeah. Just made fun. It was just fun too. It did fun yeah.
So something changed and I started to like songs for other reasons and let go of keeping it real. The end stuff. Yeah so then that song just became timeless and then it was kind of maybe because I live here so long I miss Australia and that was just like a part when I play that it's like just the good parts of Australia that it reminds me of it does it remind me of anything else. Just good times and I think Trump Jason just wants to have a good time and I'll have it over and over again if I play tomorrow over and over again.
Oh hell yeah. I gotta tell you I fell in love with Australia. I loved it there. Was that your first time?
Was my first time? Yeah. Have you been back? No.
It was a year ago. I went so. Oh wasn't that long ago? Yeah long ago.
And it was great and I went alone. How long were you there? I was there for about nine days. Okay.
Yeah it was great. So I was in Sydney, Melbourne and then when I was up at his house it's a little beach town called Newcastle. Oh yeah. Yeah.
That was cool too. I went to Newcastle when I was 16 with others to go to a skateboard contest and it was like I was really young and really a baby and some of these other skater older skaters were like we'll take care of him. I think they convinced my stepmom. I don't know who I think I was pretty free to do stuff.
No one was really watching but I didn't know how to do anything and they would they were super hungover and they're like get let's get food for us. So I went to McDonald's and I got them all McDonald's and they were all mad at me because McDonald sucks. I didn't know because I was 16 and I could be done in a feel bad but I got beer poured on me when I was asleep. I got bummed.
I got really I was a rat and I got disrespected but I went in the contest. I didn't do good in the contest but it was my first traveling without family pretend to be grown up and everyone just kept bringing up how useless I am and I just kept getting high. Everyone was getting super high and I think I was still very young so it was really fucking with me. I was really high and everyone was just making fun of me.
So how old were you? 16. Oh wow. And then before the end of that year I went to America.
Wow. So I was like I got a bus. I knew how to catch a bus and then I knew how to catch a plane like straight away. I know how to feed myself or any of that stuff.
How did you get into your line of work? It was kind of random. I was going to college up in the Bay Area and I went to a summer festival called BFD which is the radio station in San Francisco live in 2005. It's like there's something so it's like K-Rock's and we need roast and I met someone who well I before I got there I put a bunch of mushrooms in my in and out burger and I ate it.
I'm in there. I'm tripping balls and having a great time and then my friend Madeline is like hey I know this guy that works. The station is going to give us better tickets. I'm like sweet.
So we get these better seats and watching social distortion Madeline has to leave and then the guy and he's on radio actually in LA and our competitor station but I love him very much. His name is Menace. So he comes up and he's like hey like where's your friend? You know I'm like oh she had to leave.
He's like well come backstage and whatever. So I'm tripping balls on mushrooms and I just start telling him you know about how much I love music. Well blah blah. So he was like you should come intern like on our show.
So I didn't go and do it then because I was still in college but it planted that seed in my brain. So I moved to San Diego after I graduated and I applied for an internship at 91x down there in San Diego and I got that internship and just started like on the promotion side of things. Gave out a lot of stickers. Gave out a lot of stickers a lot of t-shirts but you know I just I was like oh it's fun to be here.
You know there's always something happening. There's always bands coming in like this is awesome. You know so why would you put mushrooms in the burger? That's my only question as well.
Well I would just eat the mushrooms and then eat the burger. Wouldn't the burger taste nasty because they had mushrooms in it? I you know I was what 20? It kind of worked.
Oh it totally worked. I don't know my tripping bit. I mean the way that you consumed it it wasn't just a giant nasty burger. I don't think so.
Yeah or maybe I just put it on one side and I just because like at least they're so gross. So this way I was kind of like won't be as gross. Yeah that's an interesting thing I never thought of it. Yeah I was kind of weirdly like eating them.
The gross part was oh you would. You kind of have that you can have that vibe about you. He has that vibe to take that from you. I don't know.
I would love to know what the vibe of a person that eats loves to eat dirt. It's funny it's like I guess other than we there really isn't a you just I like to eat painkillers. You associate the pain of you know I mean nobody likes the taste of whiskey everybody likes doing the right after a shot it all just feels kind of right that you need to power through something to get to the other guy. I understand that.
I remember the great Danny Way told me once if you chew on it works faster and it was a time where I was in a lot of pain. So do I want the pain to go way faster? Yeah and I remember chewing it and going oh man and he was just like trust me and then sure enough I kicked in and then ever since then I just seem like I don't do painkillers just to like get high. My painkillers like parties have always been I broke some shit and then the Dr.
Gamey painkillers and it says take one every four hours and I'm like I'm taking like four right now and I'm chewing them up and then I get to be high. Make it worth your while. Yeah so never understood anybody swallowing it after that. Well and then when you're a drug addict like me you just smoke it.
Painkillers. You got like the oxies. What was your defeat on mine? Well no no no.
What did you do in shrooms drinking? Yeah and then also what inevitably happened was I was doing so much cocaine. That was your first. Yeah it was one of the first ones sure and like I had convinced my neighbor to become a coke dealer one night and then he actually fucking did it sorry.
I keep saying that I'm gonna stop. I do have a job on terrestrial radio. I do. I do.
Is it just my face? Yeah. I swear. His face is making me say no.
I think it is okay I'm done. Sure. Okay so. Did you at least make a decent honest living as a cocaine dealer?
No that's a whole other story. Yes. I live with a coke dealer. Do you go to jail?
No well I was there but yeah a girlfriend and she did so much cocaine that she couldn't keep her mouth closed and I don't mean talking. Yep. I mean because you couldn't breathe through her nose so every time I'd knock on the door I was just ringing a bellbone entrance. Every time I'd knock on the door you opened it.
She'd be behind it like a dog behind him. Oh my god. You think that would deter you? No.
I was like I need to get like a dog lady. Sure. Give me a big bag. Yeah glamorous drug.
Really right? Man those two were a power couple anyway. Yeah I would do a bit of fur. I'm sure they're doing real good man.
You know at one point Ruddy Mullen came to the house because there was other skateboarders that lived in this house so I'm buying coke off this coke dealer with the dog lady and then I mean my room like like a couple of snorts off painting like a dog myself and someone goes hey man Ruddy Mullen's here and I walk into the living room gone shout out. There's no blah blah blah effort and there's no Ruddy Mullen and there he is standing in the living room. Oh my god. Oh no because I've always been very respectful to the guards of skateboard.
Yeah. You know and I was like to me Ruddy Mullen's like a child. Yeah he's so good. If you're doing drugs hard drugs you don't touch children you don't go near children.
So when I saw Ruddy Mullen I was like oh I'm so sorry and I went immediately back into my bedroom and hid from Ruddy Mullen because it's disrespectful to be that cowed down around Ruddy Mullen. Yeah I agree with that. When your person gets all messed up it's not a cop. You know he knows that and remembers it and he's like you know he was like no not yeah totally so what you got out of there you didn't want to yeah it was good for you thank you.
Yeah I think at my worst I did kind of keep two separate sets of friends and there's only so far I would go with with one set and the other ones I could fully pull the rip cord. Yeah oh yeah absolutely or you just get to a point where you just have one person you do a lot of drugs with and then you just never leave the house. So you went from Coke to painkillers? Yeah yeah yeah so I inevitably went to kind of like taking Percussets every day to then like the little 30s of oxy.
Yeah I know. The little blue ones and you like crush them up. Oh yeah yeah. And then if you could find the 80s the oxy 80s which they were selling for like a hundred dollars a thing.
Yeah it was good. And you like suck off the time release. Yeah. And then you'd run it and that got me higher than any heroin.
That's right. I did that. I did that. Remember when I caught that shark and 80s heart?
That was when the guy there was this crazy fisherman guy that had painkillers and all kinds of drugs on the boat because we were like up for three days on the boat and I remember he said he like crushed him and did a huge line and I was like man that's a lot and he's like it's mellow they're time release and I we all quoted him for weeks after everything. If something's difficult we just go to time release because it made no he snorted it he crushed it it snorted it. No they're not anymore. Yeah and then at one point I remember there was like a real big fish.
I don't know what kind of fish it was but it was like a real like a groper looking thing. Not a shark but like a giant fish. I don't know what kind of fish it was but. Sunfish is anything.
Maybe. No that sounds about right. Like can we get a picture of a sunfish? Four for a while like a giant thing and I go off the side of the boat and I'm like whoa look at that.
And then I send somebody on the roof of the boat above me and I look up and as I look up I see this dick and balls on a man he's naked and he's flying off the roof of the boat and he lands on the giant sunfish. Oh my god. Yeah. So time release my ass.
Now I heard you tell that story before look anything like this. It looked like that red one. The red one next to the long year sunfish. Huh.
It was bright it was a beautiful color. Here's a dumb question I associate you know I understand people can stay up for days on end on stimulants cocaine speed. I don't associate painkillers with staying up for days on end but I've never really abused them is that a thing. Yeah you can I mean.
I mean I don't know. I feel like I'm not really. I just well I think they were other we were doing other stuff. Yeah but I still.
Yeah that was doing speed with that too. Right because you didn't you eventually get into meth? Yeah. Right.
I had I did that I talked about that recently because I couldn't talk about it and it made me remind I accidentally did meth. Okay. That was Coke. Yeah I don't really know what I thought it was it was more of a there was this guy.
I was in front of me. There's this guy that was when I was like a secret gay still and I met up with him in an apartment and he was like I don't know I don't want to do he had an accent like an Asian accent and I remember that he lived on Gatna because he would always say it in a way where I would copy him because I always thought it was such a weird way to say it. What is it? Gatner.
Oh wow. He lives on Gatna. Yeah and he would always refer to his whole as a is the P word and it was the first time I ever heard a man call his thing the P word I was like no it's not. You know why he's saying that.
He would say that in a weird way too but he's like you know he's like some other one I was like yeah sure I don't know and it's like a glass pipe I was like oh fancy glass pipe you know and then I must be the finest. I took a big hit and I went and I held it in he's like no no no don't hold it in and I was like well you don't know how to smoke dude like I was like no I'm holding it in and then I realized like a few moments later that was not sure blowing smoke. Yeah yeah but I got into it a little bit because of it yeah I mean there was a couple of times there where I'd done it and then to go to sleep I had to drink ridiculous amounts of red wine because I wouldn't do the the Xanax I wouldn't cross the streams because I knew that that kills people and I just have always assumed that whatever amount that I did don't do it down or after whatever you did that was up because you just do too much yeah and if you cross them it's gonna you're gonna wreck yourself so instead of doing that I would opt to do bomb rips and wine and red wine and it doesn't work any when you're as good. No it doesn't.
So it's just hours to the point where it goes. I was like so I'll do the map and then that will trigger this insane binge of wine and weed or cigarette like you'd like whatever I can do just keep moving keep moving yeah yeah and then just wake up feeling like such dog crap oh yeah and then I had jobs like I had a job I was on a red carpet the next day and I remember it was Fred Durst you know all of a sudden I'm talking to Fred Durst and I'm like oh I think I'm gonna faint and vomit at the same time like and he seems like a guy who comes in hot on a red carpet especially in the heyday yeah I was like hanging out with Diddy and Dana why and Vandalay so like all these people and I was like oh that was a bad choice yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I wasn't a full-on like before I came home and went to rehab I was in a full-on psychosis because after a while so I'm getting hired at the station up in San Francisco from that guy you know menace and I worked there for a long time and I got fired because I was stealing from the company uh tickets oh it's a sell for a drug money yeah which they know because the parent company of k-rock was the same one so when I got hired back at k-rock I went in and I said everything that I had done and that I wasn't sober living and they were taking a gamble on me and I apologize obviously so but yeah they had an HR file on me yeah and they gave you a second chance they did I did have a little bit of a track record there I mean the only one I know off the top my head my catheter would obviously transition to be the worst right yeah I mean that's going back to yeah old school they've been they've been helping DJs get get dried out for 50 years oh yeah absolutely you could tell you're good people you know like catholic I don't know when he was on the drugs but he's a he's a good soul you know and when you know that when you can read that in people it's easier to want to give him a second chance you know if someone's just a turd and it's like yeah fix me so I can turd on you as soon as I get fixed you know those guys and girls are easier to like I can give you another chance you don't even want it absolutely but when someone's begging for it you know they're like please yeah and I was like literally like 60 something days sober and I was in a sober living I was like you know just rocking it on the top of that helped you stay sober by right so they really did like give you a shot at life again they did yeah I'm super grateful you know for that so you got their back for life because of it absolutely because of it right absolutely yeah so it's like cozy you say oh yes thank you you're so good you're so good good I trust me if you want to be screwed yeah and as long as one of us remembers because on the last show I totally forgot what I was as long as one person it's a lot like doing cocaine as long as somebody's gonna reorient the country we do this all day it's both of July today have you already done it yeah I know what day it is yeah that was so flexible okay so I you know got fired from the radio station and then lost everything like living in the car with my ex-boyfriend of the time you know stand on friends couches it was like really bad you know pond everything that whole deal so finally we managed to kind of just like get on some methadone and then wait methadone works for meth no no methadone's for opiates okay but what you want meth uh about to get there about to get on that oh wow so so it was like you did heroin jump to man because of it because you don't look dumb because it helps with the dope sickness that's why yeah but that's still stupid and I need an energy well I'm not saying I'm bright I'm not getting coffee I'm saying I'm a drug addict yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I uh so I start working at a winery you know which is like an awesome job when you're an alcoholic and um that's why so many of them do it yeah right right and so I I've been working there for like almost a year and I was doing a lot of a lot of meth and uh so I was already like every day I was like in the winery I was like printing out like um I was you know doing like my deep dive research on like I was convinced that someone that had just moved in two doors down from our winery was like CIA operative you know and then what I ended up finding out was like somehow they were involved in building uh like military weapons or or planes or something for the CIA so I was like I know it you know um so you're doing lots of research yes that's what you do when you're on meth either from the way it appeared to you at the time or the hindsight of clarity now looking back like what were you actually was it like finding a milk carton in his garbage and saying this means something like how how did you connect those does it doesn't make sense just tell me how you damn right doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense you're just in your in such a state of paranoia all the time conclusion how did you have your eka moment CIA I don't know I have no idea no idea I just googled there the name and uh and then I start you know yeah and then I just start uh you know finding out all this like weird stuff so anyway so I'm just that's how paranoid I am every day and then so anyway these people come in and I serve them whatever they leave and to this day I don't know if this is true or not but they do a costume change and they come back in for me to serve them again and one of them the men has drawn on freckles on his face and I just remember like looking at him and I'm like this fuck this guy has drawn on freckles yeah and I serve them again and it freaked me out so much that I just close up shop right then and there and I never went back to that winery again and uh and then I was in rehab like three days later four days later that's a good idea yeah yeah I tell you those I feel like I can sort of make sense of that and and tell me if I'm wrong here but our brain obviously has the capacity to make up same guy but freckles drawn on because that's dreams that kind you can easily have oh like it was Tony Hawk but I don't have these weird drawn right right back so like your brain has that ability you were just blurring the line between fantasy and reality yeah well at the end I you know at that point wasn't sleeping a lot right you know what I mean that was really just having to be awake and I was like 100 pounds like I was like barely eating like barely sleeping and so who like I that's why I always say I have no idea to this day what really happened but that was my experience I remember reading in Slash's book that one of his rock bottoms was I think he was at some resort or something and he was convinced that there were thousands of miniature predators chasing me everywhere yes yes you gotta have an app when that happens you gotta take a nap but I think it's a awesome visual picture just little hymns really oh yeah but I think it's part of your subconscious is like trying to get you to stop and and just trying to tell you like what you're doing is not good and just to freak you out enough to where you'll stop doing it so you don't do that anymore I don't yeah yeah it's been seven and a half years so we're the best thing I ever did in my life yeah sleep sleep great don't you I sleep great I don't wake up hungover ever I love that yeah mornings are great you're in Los Angeles they are there sense to be a night person you can make rainbows whenever you want here that's right that's right that's right order you guys you can buy a glory hole I know we got all bars on it yeah you you're coming up with a lot of good things right now you're making this down sad really cool it's weird I listen to other shows they're like LA this LA that I'm like I make rainbows and have a glory hole I don't know what the problem is it's pretty cool here just Tony Hawk is a ramp that I got key to it like what are we talking about here what Paul's ready to go I got the Virgin Peanut Coladas you know oh the agony of California you dig it yeah get your heel off my throat Kevin Newsom the guy the guy is literally straggling the live out from 800 miles right yeah on my virgin the rainbow world so what's the single coolest thing that you have gotten to do short of course meeting silver chair as made on his show obviously I mean come on as a person is huge I think well one of like the earliest things that I got to do in my career was interview Jack White and his and his trailer backstage at outside lands and I mean like he looked like he just walked out of like a Tim Burton movie you know and I'm like 21 22 so young and you know and I'm sitting in there just like interviewing Jack White and that's just like a musical hero of mine I mean I don't know just getting to talk to these people that I've just you know grown up loving because like I feel like music has been my number one love up until I met drugs you know what I mean so yeah I mean I don't really know that's funny I get it you know because I feel like the you know celebrities and famous musicians and stuff like so many people freak out that they can't have a normal interaction sometimes it almost seems like they welcome meeting like they hang out the same 10 like musicians in groupies all day and they can't talk to people at the supermarket they can't go to the supermarket so when somebody just vets you and you go on their trailer like oh hey you like you want to cup of tea and you go I mean I remember having a very polite civil afternoon with like Joan Jett and it was like what the heck am I doing on Joan Jett's tour bus right now this is so you know little old Mike Tully and brother for New Jersey never could have possibly imagined when I was there when him to be started I had one like that but it's not cool anymore because he was turns out he's a dick but that could be so many people this guy but somebody that came on the show that's very famous and I respected a lot oh yeah yeah yeah and he started to like me and I was like wow because I always took him as a pretty smart guy for a such an anarchist because he does see interviews where I was like this guy's got a brain and this is all set up like he knows what he's doing here to make this whole thing what he is and he likes me and I could tell he was super shut off wasn't going to talk to anybody and I was like man I really got a skill that's cool and then he was like let me get your phone number I'm like really and I started hanging out with him a little bit until I you know caught on it it's not probably not that's not a good friend to have yeah but it did feel good at the time because I was like I'm nervous he doesn't like people he looked like he was for shogun and not like all of us and he had a good time yeah so I get that like because I don't like James F. Phil's the biggest person I could ever meet and he did an interview and he didn't really like me and it was the people I mean you got to speak to your idol I'm like yeah it was pretty bad and it wasn't a terrible interview I was like I will never speak to Jason I was like he's like I don't know some dude good for you totally it wasn't anything but it wasn't face to face and then I met him at the SV Awards I think I don't know how I got accidentally interviewing on the red carpet like I went there to get wasted and party and then somebody didn't show up to interview and then they said hey Jason do you want to do it I was like yeah sure and then I'm just on some line and they keep saying celebrities and I'm interviewing people I don't care because they just goose that I don't care about and then they go coming up next is Metallica and I go wait not the Metallica and then I look down the green carpet because they were you know action sports doing something but that's very strange that's the most extreme part of our color they literally don't care my goal they don't answer anybody who like Bill Green we're doing it Green so yeah they're there and it's right when Jason Nusset had left so it was just the three of them and there was no official bass player he goes right Bob Rock was the bass player yes I hate that guy you know I told you I've vied him into Target once I got almost said something he walked by me and I was like you son of a bitch Bob Rock like I tell you you watch some kind of monster yes yes you guys are we so good oh my god okay okay so good yeah oh so Kirk comes up first and the other two are still talking and Kirk's like hey man I'm like I'm like your biggest fan this is like crazy to me and he and I'd been given jewelry so I get the announcing gig and then all the sudden I mean a hotel room and somebody comes in with a suitcase full of jewels and goes do you want to wear some of this on the red carpet and I was you know like I was listening to Jay Z and stuff I had like a tight little beanie do rag on and you know I think I had like a tiger shirt I'm like I was full douche like we had lugs on or tingling like I was really going for it and they got you once over this jewelry it was like diamond crosses and like like hundred thousand dollar bling and I was just like yeah I'll take that and that and I'm just gonna let this jank on it's not me but I don't care I'm like I don't believe God at all I got a diamond cross on so when I go hey man I'm your biggest fan it goes ayah are you sure and I got on red and green carpets every douche says that to every single person you had to write to so he questioned it immediately and I was like oh yeah I'll show you and right as I said that last and James came up and I was like uh I'm just about to show he doesn't think that I'm your biggest fan of that prove you wrong and I got to stop pulling my pants down I think sex with all three of you because I got metallic attached I got a top. I'm gonna do it to you.
I'm gonna do it to you. You're awesome. So then I brought to this. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna be your music.
You're gonna mix me out anyway. Yeah yeah I do not say that but I pulled my pants down and they went to back off because they thought I was just gonna pull my dick out of me. Oh my God. And I showed him the tattoo and laughed at his finger and rubbed it and he was like, whoa, that's real.
And I'm like, yeah, it's real. What are you talking about? And then James goes, I thought it was gonna say, met. And I was like, oh, he made a little dick joke.
And I remember like, it killed me. Cause I'm like, James, I just want James to like me. I don't care about the rest of them. I mean, I do, but James is more important.
And then I somehow introduced them to the rock lock. And they were like, what? I'm like rock lock, you know? Cause I did the interview and I was like, rock lock.
And then I was like, what is a rock lock? And I was like, go like that. And then you do the other thing where it locks in. Oh yeah, yeah.
And he was like, James was like, I like it. I like the rock lock. And then I saw him later on that night. And he was like rock lock and gave it to me again.
And then my skateboard buddy said he saw him in Vancouver. And James gave somebody the rock lock and called it rock lock on stage. And I was like, there you go. See?
So we did like you. Yeah, but yeah, yeah. He changed his life. I did.
Again, you know. I carried that with him. I met him one time. He came to our winter show for the station.
Cause Green Day, we're headlining. And he was just hanging out backstage, having a good old time. And he was really nice. But I think what I have to remember with these artists is depending on what their day looked like, how much travel, how jet lag they are, blah blah blah.
Like they're going to be moody sometimes. Cause I've had, I'm not going to name the band, but I did an interview with them one time and they were not in a great mood at all. And I also think they're just used to cheesy radio and TV people. Which I get it.
It's like most people can just be a little bit much. So and then I met the same band at one of their after parties and they were lovely. And then like so. Isn't it funny that you start by seeing their lives?
Cause I've always, especially from like being kind of a bum and then working my way up and people's opinions of like, you know, you're going to make it Jason. And then when I make it, it's like, oh, too cool to like do this or too cool. It must be nice. Like it's like little attitudes like that.
That I've also had. But then by being involved, like Carrie Hart, I love Carrie Hart. He's a dear friend of mine. He doesn't text me back sometimes.
And I'm like, what kind of a friend doesn't text you back? Watch Carrie Hart's phone. Watch what it does and see what he does in a day. And then understand why.
If he opens it, like sometimes I don't open text messages. Cause if I do and like four more come and I forget to get that one, then it just disappears. Cause I'm getting pulled everywhere. And I feel like the bigger people get, the more you got to understand like Tony Hawk is somebody where he's like, I want, I will pay for you to leave me alone.
You know what I mean? Like how much money do you mean? Like to get me to leave my house. It's not about me going there or getting an award or doing a demo or getting a pat on the back or TV commercial, whatever you're going to give me.
It's my time. Like and somebody who's, he's such a good father and a good person that he's priorities are in order. But he's because of it like, because he regrets like there was a time where it was younger, they're asking me to go to New York. They're asking me to go.
I've got to go. And he's like, his wife would be like, why? Like why and question it? And I remember being on the same, like what do you mean question it?
Because they ask me. It's like, why would I not go? Cause at one point nobody asked me to go anywhere. And now that the iron's hot, I'm in the strike.
But there comes like how much money, how much fame? How much popularity do you want versus your family, your kids, your friends, your life that you like? Like which is it worth giving up? And I feel like when you see how busy those people get and it's like you've got a manager and you've got an agent, you've got an assistant.
And they're pulling you everywhere. And when it's hot, it really is crazy. Like sometimes it'll be like, you're going to have four hours sleep and then you're going to do like a bunch of shows and you better be bubbly you. And then it's like, well then tomorrow I get a break.
Well we cut off but this one show showed up and they thought and then next thing you know, you're doing this thing that people from the outside will be on Instagram. You're soft, blah, blah, blah. And it's like if you did it, just like I know if you work in oil mines, you work in all these other places where real work is happening for many, many hours, you don't stop, you don't get that much sleep, you get up early, you do it again. Like I respect that.
I understand it's very hard. But because like, okay, so you're digging holes for a living and you're not on Instagram getting a million likes, it doesn't take away that it's not hard. I'm just trying, it's like, you know, like it must be nice to be a pro skateboard. Do you know how hard it is to be a pro skateboarder?
It must be nice to be a rock star. I don't know what it's like to be that good at guitar. I don't understand how you can sing and play and write all those songs for that many years. And so it must be nice because you fly in private jet.
You do it because you cut off. You know when you wake up when you're a little kid. I remember Dave Mustaine had an interview talking about how he'd play guitar for seven hours, every day in his room, seven out, without fail, every day. You don't know what that's like.
You know, like not many of us do, where you just give your whole life to something to the point where even that silver chair interview where he's like, I didn't have a childhood. Like he did, but it wasn't a normal one. And when you don't have a normal one, you really do crave it when you get older and you see kids live a normal one. You crave it because you go, you know what, was it cool, mind what was mine cool?
Yeah, especially look good on video too. It was a healthy, am I a healthier person? Am I an easy person to deal with? Because that interview, I'm a small famous person.
So my scale's little, but I still, it's big enough to understand that it takes something. Like you think you just get, I'm famous, I'm successful, I get paid. You lost something, you're never gonna get back. And if you're like a grounded individual, it's sad to realize that.