Memes, Markets, and Money (with Ben Leavitt)

A conversation with Ben Leavitt of Memes and Markets that surfaces the friction point most Bitcoin conversations skip past: the gap between conviction and consumer experience. The episode holds space for a guest who agrees the fiat system is breaking but hasn't accepted Bitcoin as the terminal answer, using that honest disagreement to translate why decentralization, attention, and physically-anchored cost are load-bearing for what comes next.

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