Memorial Weekend Special: The Oath and the Office (with Jodi Kantor)

What is the Supreme Court doing when it acts without full briefing, oral argument, or a real explanation?This week on The Oath and The Office, Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor joins the podcast to explain the Court’s shadow docket: the emergency orders process that has become one of the most powerful and least understood parts of American government.Kantor discusses the Supreme Court memos she obtained with Adam Liptak, what they reveal about Chief Justice John Roberts, and how they relate to the Court’s supposed image as a neutral “umpire".Corey and John also discuss Trump’s proposed “anti-weaponization” compensation fund, the politics of abortion and the abortion pill at the Supreme Court, and the Court’s emergency order allowing Alabama to move forward with redrawn congressional maps.In this episode:What the shadow docket is and why it mattersJodi Kantor on Supreme Court memosThe two sides of John RobertsWhy the “umpire” model of judging has collapsedAbortion, Alabama, and emergency Supreme Court powerTrump’s “anti-weaponization” fund and the politics of grievanceThe immunity case and presidential powerLink to Jodi Kantor's book, How to Start: https://jodikantor.com/how-to-startLink to Jodi Kantor and Adam Liptak's reporting on the secret memos of the Supreme Court: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/18/us/politics/supreme-court-shadow-docket.htmlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.