Men: An Explanation, Conversations Episode 6. Creativity, violence, suffering and Tennessee Williams

In this episode, we talk about early creative days, including teachers and spaces where this felt safe and nurturing. Then we all talk about Tennessee Williams, , Nick Cave, Homer, Nina Simone and Lauren Weinstein and how they take out the garbage. Tim reads from the biography of Tennessee Williams by John Lahr.Here are some timestamps:Episode 6 rough timestamps00:30 - Early experience of being an artist. Showing or hiding our creative sides when in grade school.04:30 - Early teachers05:30 - Art room as sacred space, teachers, school spaces, English teachers11:15 - Staying mainstream enough to not draw too much attention12:20 - The maze if at the end there is a desk where I can do what I want to do13:00 - Tim's bad 3rd grade art teacher who scolded him for drawing a pilgrim with blue hair.14:45 - Learning to write.16:00 Learning there was a difference between popular fiction and literary fiction.27: Horror stories, horror in mythology and folklore and maybe violence and suffering being the basis of most common stories.27:50: Why does a tornado go down the road?28:35 Explanations for envy, revenge, pettiness. Trickster stories30:20 Tennessee Williams . Her sister's impulses and his impulses. His plays were ways to work through desire and to explain .34:45 More about Tim and Tom trying to remember what they've seen/read about Tennessee Williams36:00 The Nick Cave's Red Hand Files, Cave on Kanye West, and great art by bad people38:00 How does Homer take out the garbage?38:45: Nina Simone and the highs and lows.41:30: Tom on Lauren Weinstein's44:00 Tim's Reading Corner: From the biography of Tennessee Williams by John Lahr This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomhart.substack.com