Mercy is the DNA of The Universe with Barry Barfield

Barry Barfield has spent his adult life following a pull he didn't choose so much as discover — through theology, law, liturgical dance, campus ministry, and decades of quiet service in places most people never think to go.In this conversation, Barry and Mike trace a journey that has wound through Los Angeles, San Francisco, Jerusalem, and 34 years at Gonzaga Preparatory High School. Along the way, Barry reflects on the writers and thinkers who have helped to shape how he sees the world, and on a moment behind a curtain when he looked out at a standing ovation and realized something he hadn't understood before.At the center of it all is a simple idea. Not a rule, not an aspiration. Something older and larger than that. The DNA of the universe.