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EPISODE · Apr 11, 2025 · 48 MIN

Messing about on the river

from Not by the Playbook · host BBC World Service

We’re heading to the river as the University Boat Race makes its way down the Thames. Not by the Playbook’s Katie Smith chats to people who had the courage, bravery and fortitude to stay afloat when others would have floundered.Lauren Rowles is just 26 years old but is already a three-time Paralympic champion, starting in Rio through Tokyo and to Paris. A history maker who has had to overcome countless injuries and battled anxiety. She is a vocal member of the LGBTQIA+ community and a mum, first and foremost. She tells us how one morning, aged 13, she woke up unable to move. She had contracted the rare neurological condition Transverse myelitis. Overnight her life had changed but with the help of sport she has thrived and talks us through the challenges and success, including many a trip to the Palace.Rory Gibbs was part of nine men in a boat who won gold in the Olympic rowing regatta in Paris in August. It was a sharp contrast to the pain of failure he felt in Tokyo where he finished fourth and just outside the medals. He tells us what it took to comeback and climb to the top step of the podium. Since then, Rory has laid down his oar and picked up his pen. He gives us an exclusive reading of his new children's book, a fantastical set of stories all laced with lessons about how best to live your life. And what exactly does it take to win the University Boat Race? Sophie Shapter knows, she was the cox of the winning Cambridge boat in 2018 she talks us through the training, tidal waves and the trophy lift.Photo: (Left to right) Rat and Mole enjoy a picnic lunch as Badger, who dislikes socializing, watches in this scene from Dayton's holiday "Wind in the Willows" display in the eighth floor auditorium.(CREDIT: JOEY MCLEISTER/Star Tribune via Getty Images)

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We’re heading to the river as the University Boat Race makes its way down the Thames. Not by the Playbook’s Katie Smith chats to people who had the courage, bravery and fortitude to stay afloat when others would have floundered.Lauren Rowles is just 26 years old but is already a three-time Paralympic champion, starting in Rio through Tokyo and to Paris. A history maker who has had to overcome countless injuries and battled anxiety. She is a vocal member of the LGBTQIA+ community and a mum, first and foremost. She tells us how one morning, aged 13, she woke up unable to move. She had contracted the rare neurological condition Transverse myelitis. Overnight her life had changed but with the help of sport she has thrived and talks us through the challenges and success, including many a trip to the Palace.Rory Gibbs was part of nine men in a boat who won gold in the Olympic rowing regatta in Paris in August. It was a sharp contrast to the pain of failure he felt in Tokyo where he finished fourth and just outside the medals. He tells us what it took to comeback and climb to the top step of the podium. Since then, Rory has laid down his oar and picked up his pen. He gives us an exclusive reading of his new children's book, a fantastical set of stories all laced with lessons about how best to live your life. And what exactly does it take to win the University Boat Race? Sophie Shapter knows, she was the cox of the winning Cambridge boat in 2018 she talks us through the training, tidal waves and the trophy lift.Photo: (Left to right) Rat and Mole enjoy a picnic lunch as Badger, who dislikes socializing, watches in this scene from Dayton's holiday "Wind in the Willows" display in the eighth floor auditorium.(CREDIT: JOEY MCLEISTER/Star Tribune via Getty Images)

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