Meta glasses: cool tech or pervert specs? and what's happening with Hamas?

As some pubs and venues in the UK move to ban Meta glasses, Fran is joined by tech reporter, Kelly Earley to chat about the growing demand for smart specs, the use of Kylie Jenner in Meta's branding and why concerns loom large over features like secret recording. Later, Dr Julie Norman, Middle East Fellow with Chatham House speaks to Fran about Hamas and how Northern Ireland's decommissioning process is featuring in the talks.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.