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Michael Copeland, Woodbine CEO / Mike Renfro, Former NFL Player & Thoroughbred Owner / Kevin Attard, Woodbine Trainer

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Today, Larry talks with Woodbine Entertainment CEO and friend of the show, Michael Copeland, who previews the day’s King’s Plate festivities and reflects on what the race means to Canadian Thoroughbred racing. Michael also discusses ongoing upgrades at the E.P. Taylor Turf Course, Woodbine’s continued partnership with Helmets to Hardhats, the new OLG betting integration, and upcoming events at Woodbine Mohawk Park, including the Breeders Crown and the Mohawk Million. He also provides updates on Woodbine’s sports betting partnerships and shares his most memorable Queen’s or King’s Plate moment; Mike Renfro, former NFL player and co-owner of King’s Plate contender Tom’s Magic, talks about his horse’s journey to today’s race, how he entered the Thoroughbred industry, his time with CJ Thoroughbreds, and what winning Canada’s most prestigious race would mean to him; Kevin Attard, Woodbine trainer and long-time friend of the show, discusses his three King’s Plate entrants—Mansetti, DeWolf, and Faber—as well as the return of Caitlinhergreatness in the $750,000 E.P. Taylor Stakes. Kevin also reflects on similarities between Caitlinhergreatness and past star Moira, his season so far, and the races he still hopes to win.In our feature “In Case You Missed It”, Larry reviews the past week in horse racing news, and in “Road Trip”, we head to Woodbine for today’s $1 million King’s Plate. Plus, in “Ponies Picks of the Day” presented by Rocket Ship Racing, Larry shares potential betting gems at Woodbine, Woodbine Mohawk Park, and other North American tracks.Bullet points of key topics, guests & time stamps:Michael Copeland: Talks about the significance of the King’s Plate, first Plate memories, turf course changes, Helmets to Hardhats partnership, OLG app betting integration, Breeders Crown preparations, Mohawk Million oversubscription, sports betting agreements, and the importance of Woodbine’s success to the industry. Shares most memorable Queen’s/King’s Plate moment.Mike Renfro: Discusses Tom’s Magic’s pedigree, progression, and potential in today’s race. Shares how he became involved in racing, the story behind Doctor Death, his role with CJ Thoroughbreds, and the transition from an 11-year NFL career to horse ownership. Talks about the move from turf to synthetic and family lineage suited to the Plate distance.Kevin Attard: Breaks down his King’s Plate starters—Mansetti, DeWolf, and Faber—plus Caitlinhergreatness’s bid for the E.P. Taylor Stakes. Talks about training approach, possible retirement plans, comparisons to Moira, goals for the season, and races still on his bucket list. Ends with his answer to “If I didn’t become a trainer, I would probably be a…”.

Today, Larry talks with Woodbine Entertainment CEO and friend of the show, Michael Copeland, who previews the day’s King’s Plate festivities and reflects on what the race means to Canadian Thoroughbred racing. Michael also discusses ongoing upgrades at the E.P. Taylor Turf Course, Woodbine’s continued partnership with Helmets to Hardhats, the new OLG betting integration, and upcoming events at Woodbine Mohawk Park, including the Breeders Crown and the Mohawk Million. He also provides updates on Woodbine’s sports betting partnerships and shares his most memorable Queen’s or King’s Plate moment; Mike Renfro, former NFL player and co-owner of King’s Plate contender Tom’s Magic, talks about his horse’s journey to today’s race, how he entered the Thoroughbred industry, his time with CJ Thoroughbreds, and what winning Canada’s most prestigious race would mean to him; Kevin Attard, Woodbine trainer and long-time friend of the show, discusses his three King’s Plate entrants—Mansetti, DeWolf, and Faber—as well as the return of Caitlinhergreatness in the $750,000 E.P. Taylor Stakes. Kevin also reflects on similarities between Caitlinhergreatness and past star Moira, his season so far, and the races he still hopes to win.In our feature “In Case You Missed It”, Larry reviews the past week in horse racing news, and in “Road Trip”, we head to Woodbine for today’s $1 million King’s Plate. Plus, in “Ponies Picks of the Day” presented by Rocket Ship Racing, Larry shares potential betting gems at Woodbine, Woodbine Mohawk Park, and other North American tracks.Bullet points of key topics, guests & time stamps:Michael Copeland: Talks about the significance of the King’s Plate, first Plate memories, turf course changes, Helmets to Hardhats partnership, OLG app betting integration, Breeders Crown preparations, Mohawk Million oversubscription, sports betting agreements, and the importance of Woodbine’s success to the industry. Shares most memorable Queen’s/King’s Plate moment.Mike Renfro: Discusses Tom’s Magic’s pedigree, progression, and potential in today’s race. Shares how he became involved in racing, the story behind Doctor Death, his role with CJ Thoroughbreds, and the transition from an 11-year NFL career to horse ownership. Talks about the move from turf to synthetic and family lineage suited to the Plate distance.Kevin Attard: Breaks down his King’s Plate starters—Mansetti, DeWolf, and Faber—plus Caitlinhergreatness’s bid for the E.P. Taylor Stakes. Talks about training approach, possible retirement plans, comparisons to Moira, goals for the season, and races still on his bucket list. Ends with his answer to “If I didn’t become a trainer, I would probably be a…”.

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