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EPISODE · Mar 13, 2026 · 1H 8M

Michael Lynton and Joshua Steiner: From Mistakes to Meaning

from Commonwealth Club of California Podcast · host Commonwealth Club of California

We all make mistakes. What if we could learn more about what drives the mistakes and how they shape our lives? Come hear from two people who made live-defining mistakes as they share a profound—and entertaining—exploration of mistakes and the transformative power of confronting them.Michael Lynton and Joshua L. Steiner made mistakes that shaped their careers and lives, but it wasn’t until the pandemic-era isolation until these two longtime friends began to open up to each other about them. When Lynton was the CEO of Sony Entertainment, he greenlit a film that led to an infamous North Korean hack; meanwhile, a diary Steiner had kept as chief of staff at the Treasury Department became a focal point in the Clinton Whitewater scandal.Through a revealing examination of their own stories as well as candid interviews with influential figures such as Karol Mason, Joanna Coles, and Malcolm Gladwell and people from all walks of life, Lynton and Steiner discovered the hidden dimensions of mistakes and the universal struggle to move beyond them. Working with Alison Papadakis, director of clinical psychological studies at Johns Hopkins, they drew on relevant research and unpacked the difference between failures and mistakes, the different stages of mistakes, and how it’s possible to break the patterns that lead to misunderstandings and shame. They write about their discoveries in From Mistakes to Meaning: Owning Your Past So It Doesn’t Own You. This program contains EXPLICIT language. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all make mistakes. What if we could learn more about what drives the mistakes and how they shape our lives? Come hear from two people who made live-defining mistakes as they share a profound—and entertaining—exploration of mistakes and the transformative power of confronting them.Michael Lynton and Joshua L. Steiner made mistakes that shaped their careers and lives, but it wasn’t until the pandemic-era isolation until these two longtime friends began to open up to each other about them. When Lynton was the CEO of Sony Entertainment, he greenlit a film that led to an infamous North Korean hack; meanwhile, a diary Steiner had kept as chief of staff at the Treasury Department became a focal point in the Clinton Whitewater scandal.Through a revealing examination of their own stories as well as candid interviews with influential figures such as Karol Mason, Joanna Coles, and Malcolm Gladwell and people from all walks of life, Lynton and Steiner discovered the hidden dimensions of mistakes and the universal struggle to move beyond them. Working with Alison Papadakis, director of clinical psychological studies at Johns Hopkins, they drew on relevant research and unpacked the difference between failures and mistakes, the different stages of mistakes, and how it’s possible to break the patterns that lead to misunderstandings and shame. They write about their discoveries in From Mistakes to Meaning: Owning Your Past So It Doesn’t Own You. This program contains EXPLICIT language. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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