EPISODE · Dec 29, 2025 · 8 MIN
Michael Pack | When America Draws a Line
from The Steve Gruber Show · host Chancellor
Steve sits down with Michael Pack, director and producer of The Last 600 Meters and president of Manifold Productions and Palladium Pictures, to discuss reports that President Trump ordered U.S. strikes against ISIS targets in Nigeria following brutal attacks on Christians. Pack explains why the persecution of Christians overseas often goes ignored, what decisive leadership looks like in the face of terrorism, and why America’s willingness to confront evil still matters. As Trump warns there will be “hell to pay” for ISIS fighters targeting innocent believers, this conversation focuses on faith, national security, and the moral responsibility to defend the defenseless.
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Steve sits down with Michael Pack, director and producer of The Last 600 Meters and president of Manifold Productions and Palladium Pictures, to discuss reports that President Trump ordered U.S. strikes against ISIS targets in Nigeria following brutal attacks on Christians. Pack explains why the persecution of Christians overseas often goes ignored, what decisive leadership looks like in the face of terrorism, and why America’s willingness to confront evil still matters. As Trump warns there will be “hell to pay” for ISIS fighters targeting innocent believers, this conversation focuses on faith, national security, and the moral responsibility to defend the defenseless.
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