Michael Shellenberger on UFOs and Aliens

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Author Michael Shellenberger joins the show to discuss UFO/UAP sightings, extraterrestrial life, spiritual and psychological theories, and what the mystery reveals about trust and belief. ► Subscribe to Rufo & Lomez on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoxZVv224nHvTmkMk0N3fYA?sub_confirmation=1 ► Join BlazeTV! https://get.blazetv.com/rufoandlomez/ Ep 52: 1. [0:00:00] – Intro: Trump’s UFO Files, Government Secrecy & UFO/UAP Theories 2. [0:05:37] – Why Now? Timing, Trump & Agnosticism 3. [0:11:01] – Best Evidence: Pilots, Radars & Nukes 4. [0:15:28] – Bob Lazar, Physical Craft & False Memories 5. [0:23:30] – Politics of UFOs 6. [0:35:08] – Epistemic Collapse vs. Conspiracism 7. [0:39:25] – UFOs, Religion, NDEs & the “Control System” 8. [0:46:01] – Shellenberger’s Faith, Personal Sighting & Final Takeaways Connect with us: https://twitter.com/christopherrufo https://twitter.com/L0m3z https://facebook.com/rufoandlomez https://instagram.com/rufoandlomez ►Subscribe on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/rufo-lomez/id1849758826 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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