Michelle Young – The Art Spy

In the second part of our podcast about the movie ‘The Train’ Brent talks with Michelle Young about the art curator featured in the movie – Rose Valland. Michelle is the author of a forthcoming book from Harper One, an imprint of Harper Collins, about the World War 2 Resistance spy.  The book will be issued in May 2025 and will be called ‘The Art Spy’. Michelle is the founder of ‘Untapped New York’ and the author of a number of books about the city.  She’s professor of architecture at Columbia University GSAPP and an instructor at CUNY School of Journalism.     (1:05) How Michelle got interested in Rose Valland and World War 2; (2:00) Why is Rose still so little known; (4:15) How accurate is the movie ‘The Train’? (6:15) Why did the Nazi’s want all those art treasures? (8:15) Why ‘degenerate’ art? (9:25) How did the Nazi’s use art? (10:10) The ERR; (11:55) The Jeu de Paume – Goring’s private gallery? (12:30) Why Rose decided to save art; (13:25) How did Rose spy on the Germans? (14:40) How many works did Rose document? (15:40) Rose’s interrogation by the Germans; (16:55) Rose suspected by French partisans; (18:15) The German plans for Rose; (18:55) The last art train to Germany. How did Rose and the resistance stop the train from leaving Paris? (20:50) Rose – a monuments woman? (22:00) The Nuremberg Trials; (22:20) Rose’s awards and decorations; (24:30) Rose’s view of ‘The Train’ adaptation. Links mentioned in this episode: michelleyoungwriter.com Leave some feedback: What should we talk about? Please let us know in the comments. Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please give us a rating and leave a short review. Connect with us: [email protected] godsstorypodcast.com Become a Supporter: If you’d like to help us make more great episodes like this one, please consider becoming a Patreon supporter. For as little as $5 a month, you’ll receive early access to new episodes plus bonus episodes and other goodies from time to time, and our undying gratitude. patreon.com/godsstorypodcast Thanks to our sponsors, Liquid Edge Creative who take care of the technical stuff behind the scenes.