Mike and David talk practicing what you preach

In this episode, Mike Ramos and David Rice from IBM's own CIO organization (which is one of, if not the biggest IBM customer) talk about their DevOps and modernization journey. From the technical aspect of making the jump from CLI-based development to next-gen workbenches to the cultural changes that occur when making a big shift in development practices, this conversation sheds light in to how IBM is walking the walk.