Mike Safo with Scott Payne, retired FBI Special Agent / Best Selling Author

Joined today by former FBI undercover agent and bestselling author, Scott Payne. Listen as he shares the powerful story behind his new book, Code Name: Pale Horse – How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis.Scott opens up about his life as a devoted “girl dad,” the little things his daughters do that melt his heart, and the challenges and joys of fatherhood. He reflects on his upbringing in South Carolina, his passion for sports, and his journey to playing Division I football.We dive into Scott’s early days in law enforcement with the Greenville County Sheriff’s Office, including some of his first cases—and even a hilarious arrest story. From there, Scott shares the pivotal moment that led him to join the FBI, his assignment in New York City, where he lived and partied, and what he experienced on September 11, 2001.Scott also discusses what inspired him to write his book, how podcast interviews have become a therapeutic outlet, and why he chose to open up about his high school struggles and the impact his work had on his marriage. He speaks candidly about his addiction to the adrenaline of undercover work, the psychological toll of constantly living a double life, and how difficult it is to always keep your story straight.We talk about the transition to retirement, how law enforcement has changed over the past two decades, and how Scott copes with missing the rush of the job. He also shares how his deep faith carried him through the darkest moments of his career, his unexpected friendship with professional wrestlers, and what life looks like now after the FBI.All this and more with the legendary law enforcement officer and bestselling author, Scott Payne. Follow Scott: https://www.instagram.com/scottpaynebigcountry Buy Scott's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Code-Name-Undercover-Expose-Americas/dp/1668032902