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Yeah, it did. We got some things to talk about. You see the title. So y'all already figured out what's what.
So man, without further ado, man, let's go ahead and say, how was your? Y'all might turned off. OK, y'all might start off. They said, thankfully.
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It's a great time of the year for sports. Baseball's doing that golf. I'm not a type of show. I'm being funny.
Baseball and golf. Pretty strong. The frames per second podcast. I think baseball's doing a good job.
Changing rules, they getting. We sound good. I'm the mic everybody. You know what's going on?
Yeah. I'm interested to see how the games come out. And I heard the games are how many? 37 minutes fast.
That's a lot. That's a lot. Now you ain't got to be like, man, I've seen four hours watching the baseball game. Yeah.
Two hours in the head. They were showing the montage of two different little dudes pitching. From the time it took a dude to throw one pitch with the new setup do throw a whole three ops. And the time it took one pitch for the other dude.
Really? Yeah. With the FBI shit. Let's take a use of volume boost.
I don't know. She's already. Need to do this girl 19 points here. What do you use?
Prosper. I'm like, I'm. Was you should have the regular shit? Might check one two one two.
Sick about it. I wish George had the regular business. Yeah. All the a price picks and drafting.
Don't want me off. I just want to baby on the game. What you gotta find? You gotta find it right after all this?
Yeah, but what you can't even like I want something I can cash out when I win. Were probably think we can with pride. You can, you can. I'm shipping so much better now.
Yeah, I'm just so heated right now. I want a good bit. I'm about to vote. I guess right into my local congressman.
Yeah. Get this passing George. This should go till nothing. I think George one of the last days.
It's like Tennessee and it's like country has states like Mississippi and said all of them got business of George. George is gonna be the last one bro. Hey, wait, alright, you got it. Oh my God.
We need it. Asapically. So as far as the main news for today, I mean, this is gonna be probably like a balance show I would think because there's a lot of NBA shit we could talk about. There's a lot of NFL stuff we're talking about especially straight down line starting.
So I guess we'll start with NFL first since that's the number one sport. Am I right? So Lewis, this is the number one? Definitely.
The number one. Definitely number one. What? Definitely number one this week so far.
Because first things first, Derek Carr, I think was the first QB taken off the board as far as free agency wise and he is now officially gonna be in the Orleans with the Saints leading them next season. So I start off with you. Show them. Do you think the Saints will win more with Derek Carr as their QB?
I think they will just by you know, because he's better than what they had before. Andy Dalton was like a just a feeling replacement. We knew he wasn't on term answer. James didn't show up and do what we expected him to do.
He came back off the injury and didn't come off blazing like we thought. So they only have one way to go, which is plus the rest of the division is weaker too. So that's to help a lot for him and a lot less pressure. So I think you'll do okay.
Less pressure than the writers? Well, he had the number one of the top receivers in the league coming in, you know, work with Aaron Rodgers before. Yeah. It's a lot on your shoulders and then you know, it was a lot of pressure with the new stick.
Well, they knew, but you know what I'm saying, the new stadium, new place, Vegas. That's a lot of pressure. You hiding the world is now. Hiding.
Mm-hmm. What you think about the whole thing? I think that this is similar to the move with the current state of quarterbacks. This is similar to the Drew Brees move.
This puts New Orleans head and shoulders above everybody else in NFC South. Unless the Falcons get the more Jackson, which they already came out and said they're not trying to do. So New Orleans makes a move on Jerry Kallen. We can say whatever we want about his tenure in Vegas, Oakland, whatever we call it.
But he the best quarterback in the division easily. The Saints already had a great defense. They got a solid head coach and to show this point, the rest of the division is so bad. Like we may be talking about two years of Saints winning that division at the very least.
Yeah. I think it's next year doing what the Vikings see this year. Paper champions have a really, really solid regular season record today. Maybe losing the second round.
I ain't saying Jerry Kargin will win him a Super Bowl, but when we talking about doing what Kirk Cousins does for Minnesota, he's going to do that. The same thing in the world. I'm just saying, it should be this year. Why are we going to win two years?
I think this year they will be like the Vikings were. The next year they make win the division. It may be a little bit. They're going to have a solid two years of a car.
That's what I'm saying. Oh, they'll be winning over two years. Over two years. But not winning a Super Bowl or anything.
No, no, no. It's better. I ain't giving you that. I know that it depends on how they did it by his songs.
So you dealt with that a lot more. Yes. What about Drew okay? Well, I don't know.
I think it's a lot of a move. Yeah, they got a better quarterback. But you know, cars, average, maybe above average, people always put more on him than he's been able to really show, you know, all those years. And we can blame and we can blame whoever.
But she had a replaced the coaching. He still got the same results with a out of receiver and one of the best running backs in the league and still got mediocre results, winning boss. So and then they don't have receivers, do they don't have receivers? I don't know.
Lovey. Mr. Tristol, do you have receivers? Thomas.
Thomas, come on. Tila, O'Lavi is nice. Nice, bro. He's nice.
He's going to be there. Thomas ain't shit. As in it. Thomas gone.
What's going on? Thomas is done, you know? Thomas is done, but what's that you're seeing? Thomas.
No, no, no, there's one. He's nice though. He's nice though. He can play.
He can play. He can play, but it's not enough. I can always default to it's the NFC South, though. Um, it's O'Lavi and Cari, the strongest connection that we've got in the division.
O'Lavi is not Devante, Adam. The strongest connection we got in the division is Olavian car right now And you know that I need a once-career because you're about to have ridder in a drink London Another L4 a lot of sports well for them to come out today like even only Move by the same's don't mean shit farting away. However, what's more interesting is that this you know I think I heard this and I can't believe somebody who's from Louisiana. Well, it's we fuck with the same stuff You know, I'm true.
They never they have a drastic quarterback since archenany Godly they have no that's not true. They have not drafted a quarterback since archeny. The same night. That's not true Then they draft damn that might be true, but let me check I thought Not either they know the quarterback since archeny in the first round or they haven't drafted the quarterback since archeny period But some of this is in that nature where they don't give a fuck about young QBs in the ones And if you think about it, what was the last time someone was drafted there and developed in the world?
Damn, that might be right was there was a black guy was thinking about but I was just a blazer about He wasn't really Even copa. Hmm Jeff Lake was a free. Yeah, that's all her. I was like, but I heard that I was like, you can't only serious It was like Bobby Herbert or something shit before that before Jeff Blake.
I can't you all get all they get that's like That's what I heard any work for Danny Wolf Danny Wolf Danny Wolf. That was it. He was your first round. Yeah, he's a house I thought they thought oh you thought my first round.
Yeah, he went in first round. Okay, you said that's for the first round Yeah, okay, then yeah, no, they've tried to quarterback, but yeah first round. I don't see any all right. I got you know, you know And what pick an edition they are they got a top 10 pick I think that would be stupid not to drive Well, yeah, I call you right now.
I wouldn't I wouldn't drive I wasn't taking any guys but moving on Amber oh my man bros, but yes, that's the black dude. She was someone I just like Yeah, nice little run, but moving on to the next mediocre yq beat up you talking about And Rogers a r12 they talking to a they said the Jetsam they've flown out to Wisconsin and trying to talk to him She was going on Is this a big shaker in the a fc if this deal gets done Ken He's better than Zach Wilson. They have a lot of pieces. It's saying a lot They have receivers.
They have running back. They have a defense. Do we have a coach the coaching capable? So if you just need a signal caller, why not take a chance with him he can be can maybe do the whole um What's got him with the Kansas City Joe Montana thing?
John telling when though he went to championship game. I believe this was when I was a chief fan. Yeah, yeah, I was a chief So he get there he good. Um That's the best they've had as much as you could see I mean because really like if you're looking at this move and you're thinking that you're kind of looking at right You're looking at the different Broncos where the different Broncos are like all right We just need a quarterback and we got some other parts around here They can get the jump we just need him to come in and you know put us over the top Right, so if I'm the Jets and I got all of these other pieces that are young You know, that's what you're talking about right these guys on these young Ricky contract And I just need a guy that can make throws when I need to throw and manage the game Then you're I bring them in they just need to manage the ego And that's the hardest part when you deal with the breath with I mean, uh, Aaron Rodgers at this point what will you do to the chemistry of that team if he comes in and he's not focused you got young players that's scary The talent is there, but if they're not up to his level They're not playing up his standards and he talked about him.
We saw what he can do He told him boys down early on they did pick it up in the end, but these guys are going they running Why would you want to risk tearing it up? You just can't waste that talent on Zach Wilson and trying to find another quarterback So you gotta it wasted two number two overall picks in the last same darnal No, no, no, no, there was a number three pick because I think barking went to so the same darnal and Zach Wilson are basically the same Qb does that make them trigger happy because as I was telling y'all in the chat There's no way that I'm right here. I just received similar smoke that uh Kyrie ever received in India I feel like all of the complaining he did last year coming in at the last minute showing what that team could have been once they got on the Same page once he decided to put in work. I feel like if I'm um, if I'm the jacks I want that that around my young team that I'm like this.
Yeah, I want that around there so Maybe Zach Wilson isn't the answer. Maybe I got an alternate between him and white throughout the season But I would rather than have the chance that my boy Caleb Williams to have a rod and we have to pay him 60 million Dollars next year because that's what they gonna have to do. Yeah, and you still continue with that. Why would I do that?
That's for a year one year and then maybe next year he want to play maybe he don't He hold him in the same position that he got green bay right now. I'm not trying to deal with that Yeah, like I just don't think a rod received the same smoke that black athletes received frankly for the same situations They've been doing in India. Correct. And he's been holding the mausole for a few years And green bay is from what I hear in their final set up.
They're tired of it. They're gonna move on to love Which I think they all know of the the Rogers criticism is interesting because there's a lot of validity to it But at the same time he is the only reason they've been winning he did get him a super bowl once he's been to numerous NFC championship games He's he's got you number one seeds. It's not like you didn't get anything out of this exchange That's why he went with Packers fans. This is like you go from Brett Farb and Aaron Rodgers What what last franchise ever went from franchise to be friends?
I think the Colts and even then they do what quit on them So it's like you don't see that ever happen period and you've experienced that in both qb's also happen to get you super bowls too It's like that doesn't happen you kind of get spoiled with that shit and for me. It's like It's it's even the horse like how so though like we we are supposed to be considering Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest quarterbacks of his generation, right? However, we're accepting a super bowl and to it The only the only disappointed on Aaron Rodgers that he don't win the super bowl It's not like you know, it's not twice. He's only been once twice Twice two people.
He's never been to two super bowl. He goes to the air He's only one to one super bowl. That's one the one he beat the Steelers. That's it Damn All right, damn arena.
We never been to shit, but niggas talk about the first moments rookie here like uh Trent like it matters though when we saw One people start saying we're right as it is and we should be waiting every offseason in the jet stop because we compare him Right you compare these negative righty, but you always don't disappoint. He gets so many concessions for being just like what? Okay, you know, what is he what are they saying about him normal? We wait, they're waiting.
They're holding up their whole all season I remember that normal in a sense of he ain't doing what Patrick my home does. He ain't doing what Brady does. Those are the he used to be the patty before patty He ain't though. He didn't make it one super bowl patty just one is that he can't help everybody else We can we talked about this too, right before Super Bowl was like look if patty don't win the super bowl There's gonna be so much shit that's gonna come his way Because he win.
No, no, no, no, they was gonna shit on them worse than Roger. That was gonna shit on his worst He lost Coach It means that a patty mohol to have any where we would not be talking about patty moholos like that He would not have I don't think he would have a small appearance I just think the concessions that we give to Aaron Rodgers, nobody else gets, not even Tom Brady. We always talk about he's so talented, he makes these special throws, he does this, he does that. We should wait if we digest to see what he wants to do until the very end of the offseason and give him 60 million and bring him into a locker room where we almost went to the playoffs last year.
For what? So Spike, for what Super Bowl? So two things. I disagree with he's the only one because damn Marino, he only went to one Super Bowls.
Damn Marino. And then in terms of bringing him in for one year, you have all this talent and this is the prime opportunity to take advantage of all those real scale contracts. You know what I'm saying? Bring somebody in that we know is one of the best to do it.
Are you going to deny that? I had talent in Green Bay last year. I come in September, the day before trying to get everybody else to be here too much. Catching my whole been out in Texas running around with his dude for two months.
Name me the best talent on the Panthers. How do I do? Name me two is trying to say what's the good receiver. When we started this show and I was like what's he talking about?
That dude. He's about the same as but that's the best talent we got on the offense, right? Or Aaron Jones? Okay.
Okay. So you're saying he ain't good enough to start. Well, that's not actually around these years though. You're talking about 15 years with the one-two of them.
The talent you're saying on the Green Bay Packers is not, you're picking at least five players on the Jets before you pick in three players on the Packers. Okay. So look, what's my win-bring in the year? That was a four.
I was saying at the top, so they draft the sauce. That's one of them. You know what I'm saying? Number two, we got, you got Breezall number three, you probably got, uh, Gary Wilson.
Gary Wilson number four, you got, um, there's no more. He's a good guy. Oh, he's a good guy. He's a good guy.
Yeah. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy.
He's a good guy. He's a good guy. That's the only thing you got. I wouldn't necessarily say.
Don't matter. I would rather take my chances with what I have now and go with Kato Williams. If I'm sorry this season, I wouldn't go with this super bowl with aero vis time anyway. But you're close.
Let me draft and the top of the draft, Kato Williams is supposed to be the special prospect that we have better than anybody in the draft this year. Then, let me take him. Now I got the same Young Squad and Kato Williams. You're going with potential over a guarantee.
You know what, Aaron? It's 60 million dollars. Remember where, remember, you remember a n***a n***a like you would have been in the room with Toronto Raptors when I was like, you wanna just use this n***a for a year? Go out.
He's all that matters, bro. He can leave. We got to come in and win in that championship. He went to the Jets, bro.
He's God level. All the other show we talk about. You believe that? Yes.
He can win with the Jets. He can win with the Jets. He can win with the J. He can win with the J.
He can win with the J. You believe that? I'll say this. We're not drinking.
I'll say this. If Aaron Rodgers play as a motivated Aaron Rodgers, he's winning the A.S.C. Bro. With that squad.
He's a Kansas City. He's beat. He don't got to be all of them. You understand?
He's got to be the combination of the C. He may or may not. I understand. But the combination of the best teams is the ones that you have to beat.
He's the one that the biggest one of them. Which is what he means. Because you're about to go down to 5 QBs and then A.S.C. Then they're 6.
They know some of them have to take each other out. It's not like you're going to face Patty, Berl and Aaron Rodgers. But which one of them is this is about to show up and get his team ready to beat those teams? I think Aaron Rodgers is the last team.
This last team is one of the worst Rodgers we ever seen. Probably the worst. You don't get that. What does Kyle Hearst say?
What does Kyle Hearst say? Take it best to you? Take it worst to you? Who that is in the middle because Aaron Rodgers says you're coming to work next season?
Have you seen him do any interview that says that? What is the interview? Because I'm just trying to understand why people think they. Oh they're getting back MVP.
We're not talking about him. Smart ass nigga. paint music. We're talking about even Josh Allen.
We're talking about Aaron Rodgers. Who showed up at the beginning of the same page as his receivers until November? He only got older. He only got older.
He don't care. He was trying to win the championship. He said himself, I'm trying to win MVPs. He already came out and said that, so why don't we think he gonna go anywhere and be looking to win?
Because it's new fucking York. And second of all, if the bar is my UB, MVP, nobody else. Who am I the other, nigga? Who am I the other, nigga?
His bar is I wanna be the most valuable player in the fucking UB. Where the Super Bowl? He did. He did.
Tell that to win the Super Bowl. All right, before you start, y'all now somebody else. Nigga, he's in nowhere talking about, I ain't seen it right now. Tell that to be MVP level.
I ain't seen it right now. That's not saying that. That's not what I'm talking about. Next season I'm ready to win.
Next season I'm putting the distractions behind me. Next season I'm doing this. I ain't seen him say that nowhere. It's all about sending his little darkness, smoking his crack pipe.
It did come out the way. And you know what? He's a functioning crack head then. Because I nigga went back to back MVP as a crack head.
That's what it is, man. That's what it is, man. It's not white man. Look, if he put in the work.
Last year was the first time he seen him I put in the work and he was what? One game away from me. It depends on what he's telling me. He's conversation though.
He's not on him being ready, Dennis. I'm just saying, but I'm like Aaron Rodgers, his their car. Jimmy G. And he ain't he's goofballed.
He's not taking tier at all. He's not taking tier. And I agree with Shelton. Like, if I'm the Jets, I'm like look what I need to hear is that we're gonna get there early because we got young guys.
We got young guys. You just gotta get there early. Let's go. You know what I'm saying?
Like we, there's a timeline here, bro. You're not 24. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Like we gotta rev it up. We gotta go. And if he's not motivated in that way, you're still probably going to sign him because obviously that's the best quarterback ever had in the history of the damn New York Jets. But at the end of the day, to get every P got to win games.
It's a win game, you got to get on the same page with all of these new guys that you've never been. You gotta get your routine down where you're gonna live. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of stuff, it's a lot of stuff.
So to me, that's where he means to go. Because it is a better situation to green back. I was way better. It was just way better overall.
Let's move on to the New York team. Let's we'll touch on this before we get to the big string bang that we put one of the times now. They need to die with no more. No more.
No more. No more. No more. Hey, bro.
I was going to throw my phone against the wall and Kyle was sending me the numbers. But then I had time to sit back. And the kid was hot. The kid was hot.
The chat about the numbers. Danny Dimes was with New York Jets. I mean, New York Giants, a four-year deal, 160, 160-mill worth, but only 82-mill guarantee. They franchise tag not exclusive, Barkley.
So people can try to trade for him and they gonna have to give up something to get him and I don't think they gonna do that. So we're gonna once again more than likely have Daniel Jones and Barkley and whoever else. But a lot of people are upset with the Giants for even going that high for Danny Dimes. Is this a bad deal for the Giants?
I think 100%. I'm gonna start coming here. I'm gonna come here. I'm gonna come here for like half a show once and what.
And I want to raise. That's what he's basically saying. That's what I take from it. Because this guy ain't done nothing.
How many times did you have? 17. 16. Can you count his rushing touchdowns?
I'm just talking passing. That's the other QB's that we count both. This is a dynamic B. I want it from all of them.
That's possible. This is a dynamic B. But for him to get that kind of money, I want to see something better than what I saw. I don't see a championship.
Coming from a Carolina nigga. I'm not a Carolina nigga. I don't see a championship boy back. I don't see that.
You don't realize there's only one championship quarterback. So there's like, there's 31 other. When I say championship quarterback, I'm saying he's not even in contention. He's not even in the conversation.
We said that last year, right? Yeah. Everybody came and came and said the Giants were not a contented team. I said anybody think they were going to play out there.
Let alone beat the number one three season in NSE. No, but I said again, he's still not anything. He's not even a threat. Where do you think the Giants are going to finish the division this year?
What do you think about it? You started over here, right? Because they didn't extend him, did they? They did.
They did. They didn't. I mean, not extended. They didn't give him the fifth year.
They didn't give him the fifth year. I didn't give him the fifth year. That's the reason for that. Well, here's the thing.
Let's break down the numbers, right? You said 80 million guaranteed. That's when you're 22. Guaranteeed is 41 a year.
Which is right the way it needed to be. So sell. 82 guarantee 41 a year. So he's getting all of your guarantee money in the first three years?
Yeah. Third year option for the team. It's not a bad deal. It's not a bad deal because the price of the quarterback is going up.
You know what I'm saying? You got right at market value for him. You didn't overpay. You're saying like 50, 60 million.
But you didn't overpay. I think you pay market price. You're not going to get it for any cheaper. You wait if you went away even longer, one month.
So to me, it's the best what they had. And they both show that coaching was a difference. That's why. I will say it's interesting for them to gamble on the talent they can bring in, especially with them kind of already fucking up with letting Tony go.
We don't know what Tony could have been in that system, but obviously they part ways, but he now went and super rose. Do it, Steven? Yeah. So essentially to see what kind of talent they're going to replace Tony with, and how that would elevate this team.
What'd you got to say, Lou? I was like, goofy ass looking. No, I mean, it's the best deal. Like Sifo said, I second his thoughts.
What else were the Giants going to do? Sign him, went to the playoffs. Maybe we get lucky again next year, and we win some games that we go to the divisionals. But yeah, for the next two years, why wouldn't they accept that?
Don't re-sign him. And what else they can do? You tried to find a quarterback and do what the hell he did? What were the Giants drafting?
We helped. We drafted in the 20s. Then he doesn't do shit. He did.
You can find a quarterback. I have. If I think that I found rapport with my coach, who was coaching the year with that quarterback, he's tapped into something that nobody else has. And he's supposed to get this name got him.
And we got him already. He's familiar with the system. I can bring Barkley back. I can bring him back.
As Nick said, put some other people around him. Maybe I can bring him Barkley back for a year. And Barkley was helped Danny Dimes this year, if I'm not mistaken. So what happens if he's gone next year?
Were you going to find another Barkley? That's a threat? I hope that Jones has gotten better. That sounds like a no.
So I would think that's why he's giving him that contract, hoping that next year. OK, well, we seen some. We didn't see. You're trying to swing around him, a tight end?
Yeah, they're trying to squeeze another year out with him and Barkley. And then the year after, they'll probably live with the results of whether they know the market's going to adjust. And probably the price is going to go up. So it's going to look nice.
And then you'll really get a chance to see him. And then the year after that, maybe you can cut ties with him. Look, I've said over and over on the show that it's never my money. I don't care they can do it.
We want to do it. Danny, receiving that money really doesn't have anything to do with Danny. It has something to do with somebody else that we're going to get to. I think it's a, at first, again, like I said, I want to throw my phone against the wall.
Because I'm like $41 million when they go to do 15 CDs. What the fuck? However, the market is really about to get reset five times there. It's been about the next three months.
Because we got Lamar, potentially, Herbert, guaranteed, Burl, guaranteed, Hertz, guaranteed. Maybe somebody else will forget. But the market's going to give you a set four times where somebody's going to pay $50 million. It's not $55 million guaranteed over some years.
It's not $60. If not $60. By this time, going into the offseason or next year. So I'm not really worried about a two-year deal, basically, a two-year proof of deal he did when it's a playoff game.
That does give you more bread. That does prove that you can compete at a high level with the back against your wall. I can be talked into this because of the results. But as I know that going into the season, going into the season, I don't want to talk about Giants at all.
I didn't say shit about them. I didn't know about them. I said, I got to the playoffs. And I was like, all right, let me take this next series.
Because I wanted them to lose. So I get a high drive. They say I get a QB. I don't want to deal with this.
I feel like, let me ask you this. What happened in that playoff game? He bawled out. Who was that?
Who won? Who won? Designs. Oh, I'll talk about this second game.
I'm sorry. Another one. He was one obviously. Right.
That was also talent disparity as well. That's kind of the point. I get that. I'm saying, I'm saying, but going into this offseason, they got money.
This is the full offseason they got to get their guys. They're not going to get enough guys. I'm not saying they're going to the Super Bowl. Next season, I want to see how this team develops around him.
Because if he can't get past this, this upcoming season, he only throws 20 T.D. I hate this fucking deal. But this next season, he throws again. Why would he go?
Let me say this. I want to say this. He don't believe it. No, I want to say this.
I want to say this. I'll let me know. Y'all left me there. I always said that Danny Dallas is a baby Josh Allen So I'm saying this I said it remember I said it back today.
I'm saying is now if they vote Does remember Josh out it took that lead? Yeah, they go to make this this nigga school if this nigga doubles his touchdown rate Keep some intersections under ten. Oh, we may got some right here. If was a fifth thing My thing is this they're not gonna be able to replenish or get enough talent to really compete and now you're paying a guy I have a million per year.
I get it. It's a good deal because of the situation that you're in but How much better can you really get? Question to come into the year like this is just based off the expectations You're saying it's a crazy question we want to send out a 10 out of 41 million dollars and be like we're not good We want to send out a playoff game job there, bro. You gotta quarterback a more than that.
I mean barely No, you're not going into the season though with expectations like this year my quarterback has to produce That's what I said by doing you just said they're like We want to play our game just don't you know I'm saying y'all need to start a job for that shit The Giants can go in the next year and win five games and people gonna be like well They shouldn't pay any time that money the Cowboys going to next year and lose that amount of games or not do as good as they Done then tech press got his losing his job. My car. They might lose his job. It's always different That's not the standard there in damn First of all the standard the standard in New York is Daniel Joe The standard in New York is not to lose if we lose it's hell That's why I think it's a really been talking about the times that's why things machine on the Giants for last Friday Sounding on the country that was a long way Don't scare the loser will take that we'll take the second round of playoffs.
We'll take not have a lot of teams We'll take a second round. Don't play like that. Don't be expecting to come back with that Ross with that roster with that roster with any team will take a second round to the playoffs What do you talk about you say that that say quant is more responsible for them being even in the playoffs than they I say Brian they ball is more responsible for them being in the playoffs than anybody first and foremost I give you We had all the name done shit until you got there. Well now I think on is the second person I'm going to Daniel is probably the eighth somebody somewhere in between third and eight I love to see what they do in the draft maybe they pick a Debo is his soul no Daniel Jones I feel like he made it work I don't feel like they got to be sold on the GM and owner and Brian day boy They were like do you want him?
I feel like he was like not here to make up if we can do anything else Let's not do not you want to play off game? That's what kept him if he went up there They would have moved on we didn't worry about I'm Brian day booed that ain't what I'm low with my seat if they gave him the opportunity To be like now you can back out of this. I don't feel like that he was like knowledge to me I think he was forced into I think he genuinely is he can work with Daniel I think it was GMS awesome I'm like Let him prove that Prove that good coach knows we matched out last day They said the same thing about Josh Allen before we knew Josh out I was like water fuckers ain't wasting their time on his name is shitty trash ain't done shit what you see What you see in the pot Jones last year is the ceiling that's it? Mm-hmm.
They both know you didn't even expect that last day Well, no, you didn't even expect that last year you say that's the ceiling so right now. He's broken silly that you didn't expect No, now because I'm number we still average Yeah, I'm getting surprised. I'm getting surprised. I'm getting surprised.
I'm surprised. I'm surprised me. Daniel Jones did right let's move on to the topic, bro Because you don't talk about the black People I feel like I've moved I have musical chairs with this saying when it comes to the certain black uv's but the most disrespected person outside of black women right now Hmm is the Mar Jackson's Chris breaking news today happened all over the sports world where we found out After months of quote-unquote negotiations the Baltimore Ravens are placing the non exclusive franchise tag on the Mar Jackson for him to sign For the upcoming 2023 24 season That's different. There's two franchise tags and people don't know one is exclusive when it's not exclusive The exclusive for this year would have been around like 42 million dollars That means that we hold you you can't sign with nobody else we good not exclusive is about 32 million dollars Which means that we got you but if anybody else wants you bad enough they can we can trade them get to first round picks and move on That's a 10 million dollar difference.
You have to qualify when it was already reported that he was already offered a hundred thirty three Year deal which was under Russell Wilson and Calamary both which Haven't want to play out games since he won here I think or MVP's or MVP's guaranteed I don't know if they want to play out games since he won against the Tennessee Titans that being said Question you can is it surprising that the Ravens gave Lamar the non exclusive franchise tag? No, none of this surprised me We've been documenting this whole thing throughout his tenure I never felt like the Ravens wanted Lamar Jackson back this confirms that if they did they wouldn't have did it in this way This is them being slick by trying to get something back in exchange for letting him go without actively trading him and putting him on the market Like that so that way they're saying that you know They'll have a chance to match it they more than likely won't match it and then they'll get two picks in return That's all this is they just trying to be Slick white man shit. They have to go to work. Yeah, they know that somebody's probably gonna pay him what they don't want to pay You're willing to pay this guy with 37 mil at four franchise that so but you're not willing to pay him that Percy per season but then these motherfuckers go out and give Danny Dimes 40 million dollars somebody needs to explain this to me And that's that was my disconnect again I said is I'm trying to make my money, but so I don't care what they do with it But when I see shit like this they don't make sense We have to talk about it, you know Here's a guy that has done way more than Danny Dimes has ever done his career and you can't give him market value at all But you don't want to trade him because then people have talked shit about you because you traded this guy that has done all this for your Franchise, so you say we're gonna franchise tag him But if somebody wanted to come to come to school up, but you gotta give us two picks in return Get the fuck out of here, man.
There's some bullshit. There's some bullshit So what happens if they don't match him then what you're back in the go what happens if he doesn't get off or he doesn't find off Or then you're back I'm saying but what happens if they don't I don't know if you're back into this continuous loop Why are you so sure when you say that what like other teams trying to get my mark? Yeah How often is a every P readily available via trade? You can talk about it on here before though the channels in which they get in contact with him having those conversations aren't the same When somebody like more Jackson cuz you don't got an age they don't want to talk to him.
We've seen the Falcons step out of it Alright quick and you got the whole list they said Falcons Panthers Commanders and this hidden because like they don't believe what Lamar Jackson can come help They franchise I don't want to do business the way that you want to do business the same way the Ravens are filled So this is good this is like you doing business somebody else can take you if they want to deal with you I can't say I think from a from a Madden standpoint. This is a brilliant move. Oh who's in on the Ravens? I was playing Madden and I had this I'm like oh, yeah, this is phenomenal because then again I'm not gonna be able to see he's not gonna get market value honestly at this point market value would be his best bet and And worst case scenario get to first round picks where I can use probably trade up to get a QB That's gonna be me kicking the camp five years on doing the same shit again However in reality Again, I mentioned Josh Allen never had to do shit like this Joe Burling gonna do shit like this Justin Herrman got to do shit like this We didn't have to be it was a thief in the night when Carson Wentz got paid and Jared golf Mike we've seen and I seen some I think Momo Remy said something like we're Ravens have buyers remorse for Joe Flacco Joe Flacco one of my fucking rain If you're not paying a QB that wins you a fucking rain who else are you fucking paying?
Well, and you got to do all that he's the only MVP in your franchise history with Ray Lewis and read Terrell slugs all these other motherfuckers and you can't give him market value Cuz I'm saying I'm just going off the 133 mill. I'm not even going off the 250 or 40 guarantee that he asked him for I don't know. It's just he has to crawl in bed for his shit For organization that he's really living on the field for Nick's time. I can't pick you He runs like that.
He's getting hurt in the pocket, bro He ain't getting hurt running the ball you're in the fucking pocket any led the league and passing touchdowns what two three years ago So it's not like he can't throw the fucking ball and who is he throwing to? Yeah, they talked about that I say I like me, you know, you know There was a stat that I saw that they paid their salary at the wire position was done last night in the film That's crazy and they came out and criticized their receivers saying that they was on it apart Yeah, and they traded away Hollywood Brown who was arguably their best receive the best receiver They draft it. Yeah, I think a lot of this has to do with again The Ravens wanting to do business their type of way. I want to do business like a watch action want to do business I want to do business like everybody else I want this shit to be my way and when the watch action response I say now it's gonna be my way because I got it MVP and I am the talent and the market says that I should get this Deraven's like here So they hands up like a sports house like fucking they take a poll of the players of the best franchises and NFL I heard about my talking about this and you would think the Ravens based off the history Ray Lewis on a strong proceeds They would be taught they would middle of the pack or towards the bottom of the The poll as far as players being happy to play there and their number one complaint was the train of stuff They don't invest enough in the training stuff and to make sure that I stay healthy when I'm going there week to week But why he said it's not that we saw that if you watch action and you're thinking like shit I'm gonna sign my life away not only for the less than I'm expecting cuz y'all ain't meet me while one of you met I gotta deal with people who ain't as good as they need to be when they supposed to be taking care of me No, we do we basis now?
I want my money guaranteed because y'all not doing what you're supposed to do anyway Oh, baby, this seems like it's a clear message that they're trying to send to him and I guess that I would think the whole league They want you to be You should not be representing yourself, you know being you know a lot of interest of that way I was in the industry and I was told They told me directly I won't talk to you. I'm not even talking to somebody I'm from doing somebody they know the terms they know how we do business already It'll be easier for us to go she gave because they got shit to lose correct other clients and they want that advantage And when they don't got that advantage with a march action It's like okay, well like I can't say it do this for somebody else whoever's willing to do business with you in this new age However, you want to do business with your mom's a agent and we'll let you do that It's bullshit. I think that this is going the Mars might end up being right at the end of this because I don't think there's gonna be Teen that's going I hope there's a team really I don't all of you there's one team That's what everybody always say I hope it does I don't know who's gonna be out there All these other teams have come out already so I hold on There's always a key me the teams just willing to do it It's willing to be like you know what I'm gonna go this way when everybody else trying to go that way I'm gonna give him what you're looking for because he's that talented and take the chance. I hope it is Yes, so on the ringer let's let's talk about the differences between the two so I pulled it up People saying we were not understanding So I'm saying well, let's believe to the statements and then I'll come back to it So the exclusive tag the non exclusive tag of course means that you know you're the only one They get a chance and then that if the play it prevents player from entering free agency that season and when it spires They'll be free agency agency again.
That process starts all over Kirk cousins with this one It does prevent their own from getting deals. We all understand that he can meet with teams on March 13 today Before free agency receives all free lights. He's on the sheet blah blah blah blah blah the Ravens have five days to match it And if they don't then you know, we know the rest But what this does though is that the non exclusive tag gives the player freedom, but it costs the team less money This glue sub tag for a quarterback this season was forty five million dollars the non exclusive tag is only 32.4 So a cap hit with forty five million will make him the fourth highest paid quarterback in 2023 The non exclusive and puts him at ninth. So once again, they are suppressing his value.
So yeah, so there's that part of it But what I say I still think rings true. So yeah, Rob They could trade them for more money. I mean for maximum value if they want to but there's accusations of collusion that's going on Where they're saying that they're trying to basically get the price of quarter best down They really pissed all about the Sean Watson and I think that we have to look like at least I'm looking at it beyond just these These these particular talking points from me. I'm looking at I Have to look at it for racism.
I have to look at it from what Nick was saying about all these other players I have to look at it with the Sean Watson From the system and got paid to piss everybody off and they were like we're not letting that shit happen again So we're gonna pay and willing to pay Danny Dimes 40 mil for being mediocre But we're not willing to pay Lamar Jackson not even a exclusive tag the none exclusive tag Whatever it is for 45 mil. We don't even want to do that for we want to give him the lowest amount possible That's the shit I'm talking about. That's the shit that we have to look at. Why are you doing this with approving?
How many of you peace Nick? Why are we doing this for MVP it makes no sense Except the fact that he wasn't supposed to be this throughout mark Lamar Jackson's 29th they even want to draft in one term to a receiver he comes in he over at sees everybody's expectations They never wanted him to succeed and the evidence is the end of that they never got him fucking talent When they knew what he needed so now that he's even managed to overcome that and here We are when it's time for them to pay him like every other quarterback We're gonna find a way to pay him less than anybody else. So yeah, that's what I'm understanding from all of this shit So y'all gonna talk about all the other shit in the chat y'all want to put for me This is how I'm looking at it and I hope some of you guys take this perspective as well because this shit is gonna back and she hurts They already took a picture because you have you know, but what about everybody else that overachiques Patrick? You know something in his mind Jim knows an outlier my thing is more of like franchise QB He knows not a franchise QB.
No, he's not but I mean he had one of the he had a great season last year, right? But he's not even with that he's a nice year. I took you to this person I'm always talking to him you don't have to offer me he'll buy his name down You're gonna offer me for me. Oh, you gotta do is offer me 34 million in two years I can say I ain't never made up for stats.
He's better than the play off wins. No, my thing is this though With with Lamar is like again when we come to these first round pick you bees, bro We don't deal with this for all of them. It's always the ones like columnry who has a scrub his whole fucking IG page It's an image that's saying I'm trying to get paid that cat to go back and forth hella Jerry Jones is still offering draft picks for this nigga now Again, we saw with a we're seeing obviously with Lamar Like it's it's just gets to the point like bro every time bro every time one of them QB's got to go for a contract It's issue. It's a long-winded conversation It's just it's just it's just interesting.
I just find interesting I don't know how it's gonna turn out don't look good because I do see my colludent of all these teams offer it's so different the news Can't break this we got some we're not talking tomorrow. Yeah, how you gonna talk to you? I did you think about it that quickly. Yeah when the news just what you need a quarterback Commander's they not talking what a fuck this a commander's thing I'm interested If they even lying should have been like man, we first in line we trying to figure out how to work this out if they was not on social media versus Are we not looking for it like you said it looks more like He don't do business like we wanted to do business.
So we ain't fucking with and we gonna make it more known Just unfortunate. Yeah, man Watson, bro To go out and do all that fuck shit and then come back and get a full of guarantee meal I forgot the Browns owner sold a team out of it. They said that too. That's what I'm saying like snar saying that there was a lot of that Spike he did that knowing that the rest of the owners didn't want him to give that deal They were saying snar may do the same thing like sign the margin So Yeah, they do not want to do this fully guarantee stuff this is just it's just they do not want to do it So they're just saying that because they're in agreement with that and that's what he wants This is how we're gonna do it because I already know that no other owner is gonna do what you're asking for so you're gonna be Safe and safe for me not to get yep, it's bullshit Let's move on to the NBA.
Hey before we go to NBA one quick question. Do you think that if you were to get to do take and Rogers or Lamar? How the fuck if you the goddamn dolphins do you not I'm sorry? I got the guy I know first time pick you got to have to first time I think they got the Brady penalization for that First even only saying Brady may come back.
They're specifically and said they're two teams I think it's a dolphins and I don't know who else but there are two teams They can't do the two-pick thing for Lamar because they don't have first round peaks in the next year's draft And dolphins went up so which one would I take more Jack's tell them what we talking about? I'm checking Lamar All the text me giving up his first time things I'm willing to pay $60 million to air on just being given what Jackson up here tomorrow. They said that they said the Raven But I think said that Lamar Jackson with the Raven starting brother The only second behind Kansas City and scoring without the Marjax and the little last in the fucking NFL Let them let them figure it out with Huntley because they want to do business the way they want to do business I was a Marjax and why not sit down fucking trade me do whatever you got to do to get the least amount of value But I ain't even playing for y'all no more franchise tag or not. Do you know why Lamar wants to represent himself?
I mean right here. I pay somebody else to do something to yourself. I haven't heard anything else So other than like his mom was fairly Knowledgeable of what needed to be done for the basics of him represented himself He wanted to give her the responsibility versus somebody he didn't trust that's the only thing that I've heard But it kind of is the problem is you don't have the same connections that she would have with a big age We only say that until you sign. No, it's just period you would have the contract if you had a big agency He would have the contracts last in TJ what represent himself.
What was JJ? They said represent himself. He got it's fine, but they not quarterbacks. This is a different position Right, it's I'm not saying that he's wrong for representing himself I'm saying they're manipulating him because he does have representation because the representation we have better connections They will have more back channels.
They will be able to I don't they will be able to resist what the Ravens are doing more They could be like okay. Well, y'all ain't gonna do this I got somebody else on the line that we'll be able to do this and the Ravens will feel like their feet Doing that you still got an agent on your side who's Can I a little bit? That's a job. I don't know.
They don't know that I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I All of that stuff when they talking about the NBA being cool with the FBI and all of these questions So I come into no 100% so it's gonna be a full blown investigation They're gonna know now here's the thing like the NBA money all of that. That's gonna be fine It's the endorsements that I'm worried for power. Yeah, Nike the shoe Like I just like I can't afford to lose time around right there cool with him. They just say it I'll find somebody he can listen to and understand it be like okay I get what y'all say because I don't know if you know what I think is I think really sitting in now You know it has to when you losing games and missing that time on the court and you can really sit back and see I can lose All this that changes your perspective on everything so it kind of makes you step back Like I ain't got to do all that stuff and hopefully you know This is this will be a slap on the real type situation He can get back and become the job we expect him to be the star We know he is turning the pat bear real quick.
That's true You know you ain't shit when you're losing bro, you know I was shit because he was winning and he looked flashy doing it and he was carrying people and stuff like that But when you saw losing all these games mother don't give a damn about you, you know So you want to come up you ain't made it yet. Mm-hmm. So and that's the biggest thing So and that's you know even for all this happen when he was talking about are we good in the West whatever that statement was and then they're Busted you know so y'all you ain't you ain't done shit in the NBA, bro So and you can throw it away real quick. So you know just acting crazy.
We go to suit. I see us No, I ain't say I'm not decking a lot. I've never left the hornet No I'm good on that side I don't like you have to bet on guys you don't know Anything out of front they gonna do they always do big way I'm about to be like Shelton harp on the Eagles bandwagon cuz the Ravens keep Ravens keep pissing me off He's a Ravens fan, bro. You bought the man when they get rid of the Marbro You gonna be sick Man it wasn't just one incident.
It's gotta be more which that's a big one for you But it has to be more than it JB Tillingfennedy Rogers notorious lead bad attitude with young talent So people want him to go to a team with the least amount of veterans bad for 12 bad for the Jets Which means hostel leader Prodigy this is all probably about the Aaron Rodgers combo stop acting like defense and specialty wasn't a reason they lost for NFC Championship games. Okay. Shout out Adrian Wells. We appreciate the super chatters.
Okay, so earlier Prodigy again, he's motivated because it's not ring Bay. That's all that's interesting. We have sauce in darkness, bro JB Tillingfennedy the same defense could drop 20 spots and rank and it will be the second best defense cars ever had back in them That's crazy. So they blame the defense for what going that for?
That far because current car is that trash and I'm not saying he's trash. He's a solid game He's a solid he's just a solid QB. You're gonna be not special. Yeah Flying in to go start being straight white chocolate Tim Hardaway or Tony Parker I'm starting Tim.
Yeah, I mentioned white chocolate and I'm trained Tony Park. I can't do that though It's gotta be the opposite way. Yeah, that's a motality I want to take one He did one type so I don't say he was a white though. Oh, yeah, you're a freshman Yeah, I'm starting I'm starting Tim Bench and Tony Parker and trading white chocolate.
I wish I was good Why is I was good for both? So no black for it Anyway, y'all saw Bateman call out the GM and the coaches. Yes, what do you say? I think it's an equipment us.
He's like y'all trying to blame all the drafts picks and shit on us don't put me or March accident. Yeah, I need to have a better train staff and make sure we can get on the field You know, it's interesting. We never heard under this one. I was a new someone's the GM The Today he's like we want to go we want exhaust options try to get this done or something like that He said he's like we yeah, I see may not be with what we think he is.
Mm-hmm. We'll see how this play out Uh, what else on that moving on? Flavian Lamar's last 16 games Lamar's lost 16 games total in five years including the playoffs They say he went 75% of his games, but as they say lost meaning like he didn't play them games because he played in I thought I was reading at first shelter Blivion John Moran or like John Warren Dreamer water someone made this point about the self-tits. They were blowing out teams last year They never really played in close games.
That's why they struggle Seven and nine in one possession games four and seven over time. That's not a good stat. Oh, yeah What a bad coach is that coaching or is that let's coach you close games is coaching This nigga press conferences. I look Hey, Jaylen brine is the only person on the seltas that literally will put on the cape and critical moments and say give me the ball I got it I Drink more water if the season ended today the sun's will host the Warriors in the playoffs We have Katie loses the stephen wars.
What is the narrative around Katie? Why do I always look at the glass half empty when you should look at half or then sons will sweep the Warriors if that's What happened, right? Yeah, you are sure Chris Paul Devin Booker I Better but from from one to eight nine that you're gonna play in a rotation go to state I don't have any gas and I'll go to say right now. No, no, they just want to check this thing.