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EPISODE · Dec 24, 2025 · 2H 16M

Mindfulness Meets Psychotherapy: A New Approach With Loch Kelly

from The Illusion of Consensus · host Rav Arora

In this conversation, Rav and Loch Kelly explore the intersection of mindfulness and psychotherapy. They discuss practical steps for experiencing non-duality, the importance of integrating mindfulness with psychotherapy, and the role of agency and free will in personal development. Loch shares his personal journey into meditation and psychotherapy, highlighting the significance of understanding consciousness and the “true self.” The conversation emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to healing and enjoyment in life, and how different meditation methods can lead to various experiences. The discussion emphasizes the significance of living awake in the world, integrating spiritual practices into daily life, and making wise decisions from a place of authenticity and trust. Apple link Spotify link YouTube link (Available on all other podcast platforms too) Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro00:59 – Who Is Loch Kelly?06:05 – How Meditation And Therapy Differ10:30 – Discovering Awareness Through Sport14:20 – Losing A Parent And Opening Up18:10 – Psychedelics And Consciousness Explained26:30 – Why Spiritual Bypass Causes Problems34:10 – When Meditation Fails Emotionally41:16 – Agency Free Will And Mental Health57:50 – What Is ‘The Self’ In IFS01:23:00 – Noticing The Anxious Part01:27:30 – The Root Of Dissatisfaction01:36:30 – A Meditation01:48:30 – Why Pure Awareness Is Not Enough02:03:47 – Making Wise Decisions From The Self I highly recommend you download Loch Kelly’s ‘Mindful Glimpses’ App here: https://lochkelly.org/mindful-glimpses Support The Illusion of Consensus! The Illusion of Consensus is a fully reader-supported publication. If you support the high-quality mental health and wellness journalism on this site, consider becoming a paid or founding member to receive exclusive articles, early-access episodes, and ask questions for future episodes. Or support The Illusion of Consensus with a one-time donation. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe

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