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Well, what are we doing? Why the hell are we doing a mini-sewed? Why'd you wake me up from my between full episode slumber to record a mini episode of the King Me podcast? Well, because there's a lot going on right now, isn't there?
There's exactly one thing going on. Yeah, that's true. There's one thing going on. Real purpose is a vise episode.
You both saw it, the new Stephen King movie that just fucking killed at the box office. That's right. Not the pronoun. No.
Let's avoid any who's on first scenarios and clarify that right now. We saw a movie called It About a Clown named It. That's his name is Pennywise. Everyone knows that.
This was a very hyped up movie experience. It did really well at the box office. And also all preliminary reviews said it was good shit. Yeah.
So there was a hype around this. Yeah. And if you've been listening to the show for even one episode, you've got to know I hate hype. I hate hype.
You are anti-hyped. I've actively avoided things because of the hype around them and suffered because of it. A friend of the show, Mark Henley, notoriously loves hype. The product itself could be dog shit.
But as long as the hype around it is enough, he is satisfied. Well, you know who's unqualified to determine if something is dog shit is Mark Henley. That's true. His barometer is way, way off.
But yeah. So you saw it. Yeah. New Jersey.
I saw it in Arizona. Yeah. I'd love to get into the differences. Yeah.
These are differences of climate, of altitude. Right. It's like people certainly carrying guns in the theater. Oh, yeah.
That's true. There was a small incident at a local movie theater where a guy had a trunk. I'm going to say full of guns and grenades. It probably wasn't full.
It wasn't like you could still close the trunk. But you'd have to hop up onto the hood. A trunk. Yeah.
It's like bunch of barrels pointing out. It's like it's a bump and just grenades. You go off. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So that was a thing. But besides that, let's talk about this.
Wait, that was a thing? Yeah. That was an actual thing that happened over in how local reference. How in New Jersey?
Yes, sir. The sleepy forest community of Howl in New Jersey. You could say one of the sleepiest towns. Yeah.
Except for one guy. Yeah, except for one guy. Why did he have a Grenaden's car? I have no idea.
He apparently. I guess we don't know it was a he. Yeah. I think that they worked at the theater.
But who knows what people do. Oh, yeah. OK. So he went to the Grenadet store.
He's like, I don't have time to stop home. I have to get to work. Yeah. Yeah.
Right. OK. Well, I'm glad you didn't get shrapneled. Well, yeah, I didn't even go to that movie theater.
Stay away from that one. Stay in there. No. What did you think of the movie?
Right off the bat. I liked it a lot. I'm not going to. I feel like some people were talking about it as though it were an instant classic.
Right. And I did not feel that way. But with that said, I really enjoyed myself. What did you think of the movie?
I agree. I think that I did really enjoy watching it. I thought the movie was very good. As far as like King movies that have come out recently, it's probably one of the top ones, especially.
As far as King movies go out, or as far as King movies that have come out is the entire premise of the show. Well, so yeah, yeah. But I mean, like, I don't know, the last there was the Dark Tower, which I don't think you saw. I did not see it in the theater.
I'm waiting for that one. Because it got mostly bad reviews. The trailer didn't really do anything. Like a trailer for this movie looked really good.
So this movie being it. It. Yeah. And I'm trying to think, I'm looking at our list here.
The last good Stephen King movies, I missed from 10 years ago. The last one I was like a big deal, I would say. Yeah, for sure. So it's been a while since we've gotten any, I would say, good quality Stephen King movies.
And I thought this was a quality movie. Do I have problems with it? Sure. There's some shit that I wish they would have added and done a little bit better.
I think that if they're talking about the child sex scene, you wish they would have put that in there. Yeah, the movie, the runtime is like two hours and 10 minutes. If they just added like a 45 minute child sex scene, brought this thing up to a cool 255. I mean, why stop at 45 minutes?
Why not go all the way to 69? Very good. Numbers, jokes. No, I think what am I?
David Crumholtz telling a funny between takes with these numbers jokes. Boy, that is. What? No, I can't even imagine who that's for.
That's for my algebra teacher, Mrs. Zagretto. That's like, that was the idea. For all my integers out there.
That was her go to, I don't feel like teaching, but I can't just show them like National Lampoon's vacation. So you guys would watch numbers? Yeah. And Donald Duck and Math Magic Land, of course.
Well, yeah. All right. Yeah, I think for the most part, this is a good movie. I think people should definitely go see it.
OK. And that'll do it. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Bye.
It would be really funny to release just that. I know. But what was something that you especially liked about this movie? I like that it wasn't just a straight horror movie, which I think is the entire value of Stephen King.
That is what he is so great at, especially with themes of childhood and stuff. That's his bread and butter. I think I might have said this to you before we start recording. We have to record sooner.
We have to start sooner. Because what I said was really good. It was that this was basically a spooky stand by me. Yes.
And it was, yeah. I would agree with that. I think my favorite part of this movie is definitely the kids, their friendship. Like a whole movie is told from their perspective.
And it is like, I don't know. It feels very like 80s to me. The way that movies back then, you could, there would be horror movies or rated R-heavy movies. But they're like, the main stars are kids.
As a kid, you would watch it. And you could totally identify. And it would be that much scarier, because it was like you were in it, basically. So I really like that.
I liked that. It was all from their perspective. I love their dynamic. Yeah, fucking the kid from Stranger Things who's in this knocked it out of the park.
Knocked it out of the park playing he was Richie. The comedian. Richie Tozier. Yeah.
Real name Finn Wolfhard. That's insane, huh? That's crazy. Yeah.
The 10-year-old Burserker himself, Finn Wolfhard. Yeah. He's like a death metal bass player. Yeah.
So yeah, the kids were great. I thought the girl who played Beverly was amazing. She was fantastic. Absolutely.
And the kid who played Ben. Oh, he was great too. He was great. I don't know.
You don't get a lot of movies with a heavy kid. You just like, it's just not a thing. Yeah, the days of the fat boy are gone. They are as much as it pains me to admit it.
And if there is a heavy set kid or a person in a movie, it's always a comic relief kind of thing. And that's not how this has played at all. He's funny in parts, but it's definitely, he's a fucking poet. He's a fucking poet.
He's one of the gang. Yeah. Yeah, it is the fact that you had a trope to have him be super funny or super stupid or hey, why not both? Right.
Or just like a wild shot. But this is like a true fat kid. He's like super sensitive. He's like, he's an indoor boy.
I love that he's just like very research oriented. Yeah. I like that idea for a character in general. Because like, yeah, that's an under reported kind of kid.
And that's the kind of kid who goes on to like make movies and shit. And like, definitely do something with himself. Exactly. Yeah.
I think there is a fixation on like the pop culture kid who grows up to do stuff. But that's not that kid. No, it's the kid who's just like, yeah, who's neck deep in researching stuff. Yeah.
And like, he's neck deep in researching stuff. And also like listening to new kids on the block. Which is like, oh my god. It's such like a kind of silly touch.
But it's also, it says a lot. It's like this kid is like a total dork. You know? Yeah.
It's perfect. It's perfect. It reminded me of me as a kid really, really connecting with the Backstreet Boys. Sure.
That was me for a couple years. Yeah. I thought they were the shit. Yeah.
I also, but I do think as far as the kids go, the standout performance moment might go to the kid who played Stanley after he gets his face sucked on by Monster. Yeah. And he's just freaking out. Like that was, oh my god.
That broke my heart. He just like, oh man. He really sold that betrayal. It was great.
It was great. There's so often in movies you don't get like people react to things. But it's like nowhere near the level of reaction they should have. Yeah.
Like there's always like, oh, this is a fucked up situation. But half of them is like, all right, let's deal with this right now. And this kid is just like 100% freaked out and pissed at his friends for leaving him. Like, yeah, that moment was really great.
I like that. So we've talked about the kids. What did you think of Bill Scarsgard as Pennywise, the dancing clown? I really, I liked him a lot.
It's totally different than Tim Curry's Pennywise, right? Like Tim Curry's Pennywise had like a goofiness to him. He was like, he was playing like silly clown and then he became like very sinister. Yes.
Sort of on a dime. There's more of like a clean dichotomy between those two. Right. And this was definitely more of a sinister clown all the time.
Yeah. He was like, yeah, he's sort of, he's barely able to disguise the fact that he's a monster the entire time. Right. Which I kind of, I liked that too.
Like it's, it's totally, they're different takes. But I think there's room for both of them. I think this one especially is like when he's in the very first scene is the part with the young Georgie, right? And he's talking to him through the water grate.
And yeah, he's, you could tell like the actor, Bill Scarsgard, is he's like holding back. Like he's, Pennywise is just like all consuming like evil thing. And he's trying to contain it long enough to lure this kid in. And like that's, it's kind of like, I don't know.
It's really, it's like, it's like, watch. He reminded me of like, this version of Pennywise reminded me of like an angler fish. Oh, OK. Like the clown is just the lure that's dangling over the big monster.
Sure. And like the monster is pretty much plainly in sight if you get even a little bit closer. Yeah. Also he had big sharp teeth, which was very scary.
Speaking of which, yeah, I thought they really jumped the gun by showing his big sharp teeth in that opening scene. Yeah. Which like, I feel like that opening scene. And I know we will never speak of the book.
But I feel like that was them establishing that this was to be a more faithful adaptation than the first hit. You know, I, no, go ahead. I was just going to say in the book, Georgie gets his arm ripped off. Right.
And like that all plays out. Yes. So yeah, I also have I started reading the book. And well, that opening scene is pretty much it's almost like exactly what happened, how it plays out in the book.
Like the mom is playing the piano, Georgie going down. Holy shit. Why was the mom? Why was that so scary?
Yeah. It was so scary. We never see her here from her again. No.
She's just playing a scary piano. But like, yeah, you see the father, you know, Bill and Georgie's father, like the one time when he yells at him to take down the like a tubes and whatever. And then you like, you never see him again. Like you the only adults you really see here are monsters.
Yeah. Yeah. Like you there's Beverly's father who is who's obviously abusive and like they don't come out and say it. But like he's it's sexual.
Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah. And and then there's the the pharmacist who's like, Oh, God, you know, you like the only adults you really see and then the fucking the cop who's the bully's father. But you only see these real shit had people.
And like I don't know. That's another like interesting touch. Like from a kid's perspective, it's just like, yeah, it's just a night where it's all horror stuff. Well, I just feel like there are there are stronger.
There's a stronger sense of theme running through this than in the original. Yes. Like yes, Tim Curry is the better Pennywise. But I think overall, this is the better adaptation and granted it's 2017 and it's a movie, not a TV movie.
So they had a lot more liberty and ability to do whatever they wanted. Oh, sorry. That's a crackly crack. Do you hear that?
Yeah, we'll do it. There we go. OK, sorry about that. My cable was yucky.
But yeah, no, I think overall, this is the this is by far the better adaptation. It's like visually very beautiful. There's some great shots. The shot of the kids, like everything surrounding them jumping off that cliff.
I thought it was just like so beautifully composed. Yeah, the colors were like gorgeous. Yeah, there's yeah, I don't know. I like the when they are fighting Pennywise.
Anytime he bleeds, the blood floats up. I thought that was a really nice touch. Yep. There's some like there's some real scares in this movie too.
Oh my god. Yeah. And so and real quick, the the bullies in this are like the classic King bullies where they're just like they are they're like way too far. They are fucking like, especially the main guy Henry Bowers who he's got a knife.
He's like he carbs. He's going to carve his name into the the kids stomach. Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't know what's happening.
OK, let's just see it through. I was the one thing that like, I don't know, that was in the original that wasn't really present here, which I wish was like maybe a little bit more was like the kids themselves, right? They're they're part of the loser club or whatever, but they're like they all get picked on for very like specific reasons, right? Yeah, like the like the heavy kiddies.
Everybody calls them fat and whatever. And then the black kid, it's like a race thing. And then there's the Jewish kid and they attack it for that. And like so on down the like, you know, nobody, nobody ever calls Bill stuttering Bill, even though that's like a big thing.
Yeah, they kind of hit on each of their things sort of once. Like, yeah, like the fat, then when fucking what's the police name? Henry Henry. Henry Bowers carves his his starts carving his name into his stomach.
There's some like there's some fat boy shipping thrown around. All you really get with Mike is all it's just Henry going like stay out of our town or whatever, which is an insane thing to say to a child, of course, Henry's insane. Yeah. And yeah, I don't know.
There's no there's really, I don't know, it's like enough that you get the point without them really harping on it. I do feel like Bev gets it disproportionately with the slut shaming. But that's also like, I think that is just very indicative of the era that it was made in. Probably.
Hold on one second. All right. Hello. Hello.
Okay, I think we're good. All right. Yeah, I don't know. We've already we're already 20 minutes in here.
So let's any any final thoughts, anything you want to add here. Um, hmm. Any any final? Wow.
I guess just wow, wow, final thoughts. Yeah. Wow. Final thoughts.
Okay. Wow. Yeah. So no, not really.
Um, all right. Um, what about you? Like if you're listening to this, you've probably already saw it. You see the movie.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, if you haven't definitely watch this and then we're going to do like a full episode on this once it comes out, you know, chronologically, we're still ways off from that, but we figured we'd do a little mini thing here.
So of course. Yeah. I mean, it's exciting. Yeah.
It's a good one. It's a good one. It's a good. It's a goody.
It warrants a mini me. All right, guys. All right. Yeah.
Yeah. So if you haven't seen it though, I would say go see it. Uh, definitely worthwhile. You want to rate it?
How many, how many balloons would you give it? Oh, out of 10 balloons. I'd give this seven balloons. I'll give this, you know what?
I'll give it seven balloons. I think it's every half like that. All right. Whatever.
Okay. Bye. Bye guys.