Welcome to Raw Impressions Mini Music Monday. Our Deep Wound series continues with part three. Yep, we're back. I've got new information.
Yeah, we're dipping back into Deep Wound even though last week's Deep Wound part... The original vocalist. He's very... The approximate dates of the band's formation.
Why is he interrupting that? His voice is a little mellower this time around, but he's still intrusive. Still good. We're gonna talk about the very original singer for Deep Wound.
His name is J. J.A.Y. J is just J.DOT. J.M.S.K.S.S.S.S.
You mean J.J.S.S.S. J.S.S.S. standing for Joseph. Right, so as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted, was that last week we had...
We thought we were done. We had crossed over into the beginning of Dinosaur. And then after we finished the episode, Lou was like, oops, wait a minute. I forgot to tell you about J.
Yeah, the other J. And we made recordings with J on a stereo recording boom box, cassette boom box, and J's basement of his parents' house. So this was the very, very, very beginning then. It was.
We all... So this is J. The other J. The other J.
I don't know if you can hear it, but J.DOT is some really tricky cowbell on that song. Really great on the chorus. So that was J.S. standing J.A.Y.
standing in the laundry room with the door closed, sort of folding door closed and singing directly into a cassette player while we played in the room. So poor J. He was kind of a very shy kid. So wait, who's J.A.Y.?
J.A.Y. He was in Scottsbury. Scott was one grade below me. Oh, he was?
He was. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. So back up.
So when you... Okay, you and Scott had put out a flyer, right, that J.M.A.S.S. had replied to... When you were looking for a drummer.
You were looking for a drummer. J.M.A.S.S.C.E replied yes. Showed up. But so then where was this J.A.Y.?
He was at school with us. Okay. And he played guitar, but I did a thing. He had a really cool amplifier.
So we decided that maybe I would just be the only guitar player who was playing through his amplifier. And we then assigned J the vocalist role. Okay, J.A.Y. J.A.Y.
So, but his amp was awesome. It sounded like a wonderful... I can't believe you didn't mention him in the first episode. He's the lost J.
I never heard this about Deepwood. When we started talking about Deepwood, I imagined that there would be like one episode and I was trying to keep it quick and honestly I forgot. Ouch. Yeah.
Sorry, J.A.Y. Although I have to say the original... When we did play with J, when we first met J, this is just confusing. Oh no.
But we weren't playing quite as fast. We were playing slower. We kind of had this real gallop to the way we played. And J.A.Y.
was a pretty melodic vocalist and he could really hang in the pocket with us and really sing with the band. And we played a show with him in a backyard in Amherst, or Schutzbury or who knows where that is. Wait, wait, wait. So this is actually the very first Deepwood concert then.
This is. Yep. We played outside and poor J.A.Y. hid behind a tree.
Oh. Singing. Okay. And that was it.
Like J.A.Y. J.A.M. J.A.M. J.A.M.
J.M. J.M. Askus then suggested that we get a new vocalist being his friend Charlie. Oh, yeah.
So this was a really brief... So J.A.Y. was... He was very briefly the original singer of Deepwood.
He was. And after his underwhelming performance in the backyard he was removed and he took with him his amplifier which I hurt me because my son... J.A.Y. and his sweet amp took off.
My sound was never the same after that. I had to play through a strange amp that J.A.Y. had in his basement. Which was an organ amp.
Was it awkward with J.A.A.Y. after he was let go from Deepwood at high school and you and Scott were still going to school with him? Like, yay buddy. It was a little awkward.
But I think once we actually met J.J. J.M. J.M. J.M.
I mean he was so punk. I mean this guy... He had like chunks of his hair cut out with a razor and I mean he looked punk. He was such a strong presence that I think J.A.Y.
understood that we were going to be moving on. Okay. And J. And so what happened to J.A.Y?
He went on with his life. So you didn't really like keep in touch with him? He wasn't really like a friend of yours. He was in school with us.
I don't know. I didn't say you were ostracizing him. That's your own little brain working. I don't really remember what happened.
Oh, okay. I know that we did speak with him and he was our friend. Okay. And he went his own way.
We went from work. So then this also just I just want to clarify this also changes a little bit of my knowledge of Lou Barlow as a high schooler because you often, not going to say always, but often have said to me that you had zero friends in high school. So now not only was Scott Helen, your friend, that's one. That's one.
That's one. And you just said J.A.Y. That's two. Okay, that's two.
I just want to put that out there everyone that... With a couple, a boyfriend and girlfriend at our table at lunch too. So they were kind of all sore friends. Wow.
That's just sounds better when you say I had no friends. That's typical, by the way. You have a few good friends. That's fine.
We all sat together at lunch. I mean, they're for each other during the lunch. I mean, lunch is scary. Listen, Rory Gilmore from the Gilmore Girls only had one friend.
And you know, she's okay. I'm just saying. So J.A.Y. Gone.
Charlie and Charlie was one year older. And Charlie is the one who introduced J to punk rock. Oh. And Emmer's high.
And then we had the show together. Charlie had the radio show at W.M.E.A. at UMass. And they had the radio show together.
Right, right. Okay. I think we touched on that on the first one. But so...
You know what time it is about now? Right around this time it's time to go to the mall. So we all got to switch instruments. That's Charlie.
I was just like, who is that? Is that J.A.Y. or Charlie? That's Charlie.
That's from our first show with Charlie at the Bangs Community Center in Amherst. Okay. Okay. I'm going to play this as a song I wrote.
Let's go to the mall. Alright, do it up. Here it goes. We'll have a ball.
Get $20 for the arcade. And stay for seven hours. We've got it made. We'll hang around the jumbo pretzel palace.
We'll shoot spitballs till the cops stop us. We wait all week for our two free days. Then we spend them both in this monstrous maze. The girls at the shops, they do everything.
They smell wicked nice and they wear tight jeans. We meet them each time near the battle command. Their excellent bodies make my bulges expand. Teenage sex is what we're after.
But all we get is girlish laughter. Teenage sex is what we're after. But all we get is girlish laughter. It's a great song.
You think? Yeah, I love that. We did a cool thing when we played it live. We would switch instruments while the song was playing.
So we handed off each instrument and everybody got a turn singing. The vocals, if people would like to hear that, it is on the reissue. The people owned almost complete reissue that J did. Circuit 2006, shortly after I had rejoined, Dinosaur Junior J put out this compilation of Deep Wind Material.
That's cool. Let me see that. So this is a CD. Is that also where you got that little blip vocal there with J.A.Y.?
It is. Although I have the originals of those cassettes. I actually provided those for that compilation. Cool.
Wow. So this is neat. Can people still find the CD out there in the world? I saw that CD on disc cogs.
The big collector site. And it was several hundred dollars. Oh, dang. I don't know why.
Sometimes CDs can be surprisingly valuable considering that people kind of shit on them. I love CDs too. Yeah, we're a CD fam. Huh.
Well, that's too bad to know that it's so expensive out there if someone doesn't have it and they want it. Is this like on Spotify? I think so. This expanded thing.
I think so. I don't know. Look it up people. People owned.
People owned. Almost complete. It's on vinyl. The vinyl is out there for not too much.
So that let's go to the mall. It's super cute. You think? Yeah.
It's like literally such a teenager song and you were a teenager and you wrote it. I love it. And I did go to the mall. Yeah.
And it's like the 80s, right? Because the mall was so important. And my mall was the Holy Oak Mall. Well, maybe the mall is still important now today, right?
J's mall was the Mountain Farms Mall. Oh, wait. So was that more of an indoor mall then? Because now it's just a strip of stores.
It was the same size. It had to enter Skate 91, which is a skating rink. Oh, yeah. I feel like skating rinks were a big part of that time as well.
It was like every place had a skating rink. Not the Holy Oak Mall. And the Holy Oak Mall did not. I don't think so.
So you guys would go to the Holy Oak Mall. What did you do there? I mean obviously you looked at girls. I didn't look at girls.
Oh. I was afraid to look at girls. We were writing about looking at girls. Yeah.
I mean the song was meant to be making fun. I love kids who went to the mall. So you thought you were like above that? That's punk rock for you, baby.
You're better than everybody. And you're here to write songs about it. So here I am. I'm naive, right?
I just thought you were really like some innocent boy like writing about going to the mall and actually you had a little attitude. And you were like. I did love the mall. And the lyrics it does say get $20 for the arcade.
And that was actually my dream. I have $20 for the arcade. I have $20 for the arcade. It's a lot of mula.
Never had enough. Never had enough. I loved a game called Crossbow. That was my favorite.
Is that where you shoot horse that horse's deer in the woods? No. It's cool. It's like this guy walks.
There was several games in this style. But you get a character walking straight across the screen and you shoot things that are threatening him. Like scorpions, snakes, vultures, they're swooping and you have to shoot them with your crossbow to protect the man so he can safely make passage across the screen. Oh.
Okay. Well, the really cool style games. Someone else could probably speak very extensively about it and say specifically what it is in the company that made it. I'm not that person.
But I did love the arcade. I love the arcade when I lived in Michigan. I went to a place called Aladdin's Castle at the Westwood Mall. And I do not remember the name of the arcade at the Holy of Mal.
Of course it's long since gone. I believe Burlington Coat Factory moved in. Yeah. I was a mall gal as well.
We were just at the mall for Izzy's seventh birthday extravaganza. We had a piercing party. Izzy got pierced. Hendricks got pierced.
And I got my second holes re-pierced. I did not get pierced. I'm not pierced. And I'm not tattooed.
Yeah. I'm unadorned. Just flesh. Just flesh and bone flesh.
So was there anything else we want to say about Deep Moon Part 3? Okay. Oopsies. Well, that was it.
Thank you for joining us for a mini music Monday. What I assume to be the final installment of the Deep Moon Edition. The story has been told. Thank you very much for joining us.
Sorry everyone. I have an addendum to this final Deep Moon episode. I was 15. I was definitely 15 when the band formed.
I wanted Adele to know that. Can you confirm knowledge of this information? Well, how can I confirm knowledge of it? How did you get confirmation?
In the documentation on the reissue CD, there are four shows listed and one of the dates is June 18th, 1982. I would have been 15. Which would make you 15. Well, there you go.
So, age confirmed, which would then make Scott Helen 14. Yes. Wow. Yeah.
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