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Mini Music Monday. Mini Music Monday. I'm still getting used to this new setup here in the in the stewed in your stewed. Yeah, and also you're sitting among all of the gear and we've assembled for full compulsion.
Yes. The full compulsion practice. I know you and Jon are deep into the full compulsion practicing. It's nice to hear it coming through the doors.
It sounds great. Yeah, Jon has been sitting in that chair for the last two days. Like just you guys have been putting in a lot of hours folks They're putting in a lot of hours for y'all when they go on tour because they're really you guys are methodical. You're like we are when we're together And we're in proximity.
We're very productive extremely. We're very methodical productive Yes, when we're now I'm playing bass and John's playing guitar and we're kind of I think that's gonna be kind of the basis of the shows We were going back and forth I wanted to start sort of acoustically I thought that would be and then John wanted to start with something closer to a band and we're sort of coming together in this You're meeting in the middle and I'm really enjoying playing bass and singing which actually causes me a lot of anxiety Thinking of playing bass and singing. It's a difficult thing to do Mm-hmm. I think I've done it before but I've done it before but it took a lot of practice So I thought I would pretty much have to it's like I thought I would have to learn to ride the bike all over again But it's turning out not to be the case is that because when you sing garden you play guitar and J plays bass?
Yeah, well But also the way that I play bass with the full conclusion is largely with my fingers It's a different style of it So I'm not playing it like a guitar I'm playing it like an actual bass Okay, and that kind of thinking is different than vocalizing okay, Paul McCartney is an example of someone who does it incredibly well It's kind of rare to have a really um sort of someone playing really In three affirmative yes, yes, yes I'll be there Three orgasms nice becomes a day, baby to wrap up your thought before you were interrupted by yourself It's just that you were saying Paul McCartney Phil Linett also from Thin Lizzie is also very was a very talented singer and bass player Nice. Okay, there's a few there's a few it's a hard thing to do and it's trying not to be not as hard as I thought I'm anxiety about that and sort of falling away as John and I said here in this room So what you're saying is the story that you built in your head might not always rat match the reality Yeah, interesting surprise fucking surprise Mmm. It's a good life lesson that we never learned we just have to keep getting it in the face of it over and over again I can't do that do you realize how difficult that's I've decided I've created this story and now I'm My story is telling me can I explain a obligatory orgasm really quick for me? Yeah, tell me all about it So I've been working I worked on this sound collage for this project called metal machine musac Okay done by the discography the podcast nice Gebro David over the last year so we've been doing this sort of parallel podcasting I don't know we talked to each other about it He's got this very very involved podcast that I was on Mm-hmm people just talk for hours about their own music.
Oh, you know what we'll do is we'll put a link to your episode in the show notes Oh, yeah, so he he he devised he wanted to recreate a record called metal machine music by Lou Reed Which is a double-sided record outside of the record is like a noise collage. Okay. It's electronic this this noise generated by Machines or audio equipment tape machines Can't remember what year it was early 70s But anyway, so I he asked that for me to do a 16 minutes noise collage to contribute so I've been going through so for the last kind of a while I've been going through tapes which I do anyway I just I thought it would be cool because I'm already going through tapes I'm already going through my past and these tapes I thought well when I come upon like interesting bits I wanted to save them and then start to create this collage and I put the collage is actually sort of around these little synthesizer jams that Hendricks and I did I also took excerpts from and created the bed for it And then I've so I've been just finding all these little bits and pieces. That's not in the collage But that's something I found while doing the collage.
I found like spoken word things and then these kind of soundscapes that I made Mm-hmm. I made them for show tapes that was made for a show tape that I used for a tour called the four tenors tour That's what was going That I did in Europe with Steve Westfield my friend my old sort of mentor punk rock mentor from back in the day I did this kind of crazy tour and he said create these create some soundscapes for us to play to them Like okay, so that's part partially that and then partially a spoken word part You've got social dialed in searches doing its thing So why do your marketing results look the same as six months ago? That's because you're fishing in the same pond as everyone else podcast listeners are a different audience entirely more engaged harder To reach their traditional channels and ready to act when someone they trust makes a recommendation We're a cast and we put them right in front of you browse thousands of the world's leading podcasts book host reads or run your own ads and track every Conversion in real time same skills. You already have brand new results a cast a cast calm slash advertised Just thought you'd pop in some orgasms, huh?
Yeah, I was like kind of funny like I had a obligatory orgasm was sort of a theme that sort of went through this Show tape. Mm-hmm. What's a obligatory mean means just going through the motions obligatory? Oh, I'm obliged to do this.
Well, that sounds actually kind of dark then So it's an obligatory orgasm just means sort of like a loveless orgasm or yeah They're routine like going through the motions. It's time for me to do the the gasm now. Yeah, and orgasm should never be an obligatory orgasm No, in my opinion. I mean I If it's heading down that road, I mean going going through my my tapes these these tapes of that I put together over Decades mm-hmm.
They're dark mm-hmm. I really I start up a lot of dark memories going through these tapes Mm-hmm, and I realized you know the last ten years or so. Mm-hmm. So I've been pretty good Negative three negative.
Oh, no. So yeah, this is another thing that I found. Okay. Are you absolutely positive that you want to play this song?
Yes, oh sure. Yes. You can back out. You don't have to play.
No, no, I'm feeling nervous. Okay. We can edit this later. No, please don't play it.
I'm playing Here go. No, what is that? Well, it's um, it's based on it's not really a sample that I made But I made this repeated loop on a cassette player of a song called mugshot heroine by a band called Moon Shake who I was Completely obsessed with this band Moon Shake. They were kind of they were a band that started on creation records like which is my bloody Valentine Has this guitar band but then they mutated into this band largely driven by samples and I was obsessed with them and They had two singers Dave Callahan and Margaret Fiedler and They were they had two different song styles and they would swap songs But it was all very much about sexual politics and I was obsessed with this band and they actually largely influenced me starting the full Completion with John where we used samplers and stuff It really really deeply influenced me and I was just someday one day I was listening to the band and I thought I wanted to loop that part of that one song and then sing my own lyrics over the top of it Obviously reflecting again not a great time in my life You can kind of hear that a little bit But I also was it's also inspired by the how their songs were their songs were very much about like relationships and and they had a really Interesting dynamic because at a very strong male vocal and then a very strong and a very interesting female vocal that sort of a precursor To a lot of like trip hop I think and then also very influenced by rap but People have to go listen to this band and shake there's an album called Evil Luna Which is really their masterpiece as a duo they they split up shortly after that record Similar to to Sabato they had two very different songwriters sort of pushing and pulling within it And it fun the band kind of dissolved it was too much for the band to bear they went on to make more albums after that as moon shake Dave Callahan did but anyway, I was obsessed with this band and when The woman Margaret Fiedler she she went off and did her own band called Lyca and when she first played in Boston with Lyca I took the kids soundtrack that I had just completed and I just ran awkwardly up to her She was talking to people and I just thrust it in her face And I'm like you have to please have this record you've influenced me so much and then I walked away Wow did you even get to see her reaction or ever hear from her whether or not she listened?
I didn't I was I was so enamored with that band. I could probably barely speak to them I have in the you know in the last decade or so Dave Callahan is pretty active on Facebook and I have made little You know connections with him and I have met members of the band over the years and they seem to identify me as like a die-hard Okay, the band never was fully embraced You know if you go in list if you go see their plays on Spotify to me It's like it's one of those things like Is the justice in the world? Why do you mean because in their way there is innovative is my bloody valentine in a different way? I think in kind of a really interesting way because it was so deeply influenced by really progressive rap music of the 90s like sort of the the bop there was a production team called the bomb squad that they public enemies records and they did Ice Cube records too, but they're just like this absolute storm of like samples and sounds and so Incredible and moon shake were really influenced by that but like the full conclusion You know we don't there's no rapping in it There's no like it's really it's taking the influence and making it their own and they did it so well and their records are so incredibly Textural I played you some of it and I did and some of it is so intense that I can't listen to it in the presence of other people Especially the songs that David Callahan sings which I love his vocals, but I when I listen to it with other people I don't know why I can't listen to his songs But her songs are much more they're more ethereal.
Her vocals are more ethereal. Have you met her again? Ever since I never I never know She's still musician. I don't know I think that they finally the two of them had this they had there was a very acrimonious split that the band had and I believe According to Wikipedia, they did they did get together again to do a sort of a recent reissue of Evoluna, which is their really their master work as a duo.
Where were they from from England? Oh, okay They were but as I was going through all these tapes I found that I was like whoa I forgot about that And then it was really reminded about About how deeply influenced I was by them. I really want people to go and listen to them. Okay.
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