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A cast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Hello, and welcome to Mini Music Monday, the musical component of the Raw Impression Podcast. This week, Lou tries to explain the new full-complosion.
And then plays two records. Excuse me, he plays two songs from the new full-complosion LP that was released in like 2003 or so. Maybe he can fill you in with more accurate details. I gotta go.
Enjoy this episode of Mini Music Monday. Thank you. OK, thank you. Mini Music Monday, yes, I have my fact notebook here.
Nice. The new full-complosion record was released in 2003 on the iMusicRecord label. OK. And I just wanted to clear up some confusion.
I know that like. So you're saying circling back, we're going to talk for a second about the new full-complosion. There's a handful of people that are confused. Because we were saying that this is the first full-complosion shows, the full-complosion shows in 26 years.
But some people are like, wait a minute. I saw you play as the full-complosion in 2001 or two or whatever. Because I did have a version of the full-complosion on the road opening for the Melvins in the early 2000s. OK.
And we did it. We actually did it. We played a lot. Yeah.
We actually had a bunch of shows. But I kind of don't count that as the full-complosion. Well, right because it wasn't you and John Davis. No, it was me.
And the full-complosion is you and John Davis. Right? It was me, and my boss, and Russ Pollard, ex of 7.0. He played drums on the 7.0 record.
I had to kind of keep the name of the full-complosion in order to fill some contractual contractual obligations. And then also, no one wanted to put out a record that was this Lou Barlow at that point and give me the kind of recording budget that I was using. Can I ask a question? Yes, please.
So was it? But you're saying, so you were fulfilling these contractual obligations. You were carrying on. You had a mod in Russ Pollard.
And so when the person, let's say, Seth or whoever's like, I saw you dude in 2001, open up for the Melvins in Minneapolis, did he see was it billed as the full-complosion? Yes. Oh, it was. It wasn't billed as the new full-complosion.
No. Oh. That was the name of the record we made that I've so unimaginatively titled. Oh.
Oh. So it was called the full-complosion. It was. And we played full-complosion songs.
Oh. OK. And then we made a record. We actually made a record that doesn't sound anything like the full-complosion.
But that record is called the new full-complosion. It's called the new full-complosion because I was kind of in the midst of recording a bunch of material under the name of the full-complosion. Oh. I wanted to kind of ditch that and call it something else.
OK. I came up with a terrible name. Oh, dear. OK.
Called N-U-V-U-N with the N's reversed, which I didn't realize that until very recently I saw a nine-inch nails poster. And I'm like, that's just, I'm going to go ahead. Anyway, it was not the best of times. It was OK.
Yeah. OK. I really did enjoy the band I had with a modern Russ. And I kind of liked the record that we made, although the record was very poorly received.
Yeah. It's OK. It's OK. Yeah.
It's all OK. In my opinion. I'm sure there are people who are like, it's my favorite. I mean, there's always going to be someone who's their favorite.
But it's my favorite. I prefer one part lullaby. I take a look inside. It's actually a walk through me.
The new full-complosion record is a bit heavy-handed. Mm-hmm. And when I turned it into the record label, I music. We've actually been dropped from Interscope.
First I was dropped from Interscope, which was the label that John and I were silent to. They dropped me after a few, they heard a couple of demos. They're like, yeah, we don't think so. But here, go ahead.
You know. OK. Knock yourself out. Go make a record for somebody else.
Take all the material that you recorded on. You know, we funded. Take all that material and go do something else with it. It was very kind.
That is very kind. You know. I didn't think there was, I didn't have a problem with us them dropping us because it sounded nothing like a band that they signed. Sure.
And I knew I was going to head down a bit of a bit of a shadowy path. Mm-hmm. It was going to be a bit heavy. And during the while I was recording the record of my buddy in the band, I'm on Wasser for apologies, he was like look, take the reins, do what you want to do, be the leader of the band, Lou.
My tendency is to spread out the responsibility among everyone and give everybody a stake in the record and do a lot of collaboration but why don't you do this on your own. And I kind of did. And I brought some songs I've been working on for a long time that could have become Sabado songs that kind of brought to the vocal, well then? And this was also a pre reunion with Dinosaur Jr.
There was no reason to thank you for writing songs for Dinosaur Jr because there was no Dinosaur Jr. In your life at that time. No, not at all. began right after John quit the band and then I kept working and trying to come up with a record.
It was really difficult. That sounds difficult. It was really difficult but we finally got a record together and I did some things that I was really proud of and you know it was kind of a precursor to the emo record that I ended up doing right on the heels of this. Sure sure sure.
Like the new full-complosion record could have been a lubarlo solo record instead. Yeah so it sounds like a lubarlo solo record. It could have been you know an mistitled. Yeah it was mistitled.
Yeah it was mistitled. Yeah so basically when you were like I saw you it's like you did see lubarlo play with the mod wasp and you did see him play with Russ Pollard and they might have been labeled the full conclusion. Not might have we were. You were.
We were labeled the full conclusion. But what we're saying is when you say it has been 26 years you were referring to you and John. Yeah John because we're the full conclusion. Right so there you go.
Clearing up any confusion if there is any. But there was two songs off the new full-complosion record that I was really proud of that we finished. Okay. And they were songs that I've been working on for a while and I'm going to play both those songs real quick because we have a lot of other things to discuss.
Things to discuss. Things to talk about. Could I please could I say one more thing? Yes.
Those two songs which I know you're going to play they both do me a very much solo songs. Absolutely. And they were actually they were songs that well okay the first time I'm going to play is called Pearl. Okay.
And I was during this sort of dark time for me in the early 2000s. I was um I was not feeling like I was I was feeling discouraged because the sebido and one part level by were both by the measure of the day flops like they were not successful. They were poorly reviewed for the most part and you know I felt it was the end of my run. I had a really good run through the 90s and it was kind of the end.
It was like yep things are changing. I felt like a bit of a hasman and I just was going to say that I'm going to air that. I felt a little bummed about it and then I was having a hard time really finishing songs. I was starting a lot of songs but I wasn't finishing them because I couldn't think of lyrics and I and I thought well what I need to do is act like I'm a songwriter because somehow through all this time I didn't consider myself a songwriter in a traditional sense.
I thought there were songwriters that were writing songs and I wasn't one of those people because my song I just feel like the way my songs come to me it's different. I don't feel you know I don't know I just didn't I do you feel differently now? No I feel the same. You don't feel like a songwriter?
No I know that sounds ridiculous but I don't I know why but I'm sure I could probably speak with a therapist about it. Anyway so anyway I thought what I was going to do was pretend to be a songwriter and I thought well the first thing I'm going to do I'm going to pretend I'm going to Nashville which is interesting because I'm going to Nashville and start the vocal collection tomorrow but I'm going to pretend I'm a Nashville songwriter and number one I'm going to like this song is going to be named after a woman which you don't like. Typically not. Although I have exceptions.
So I was going to write a song about a woman and I was going to completely make up the entire song. So the woman's name would be Pearl. I love that name though. Great name.
So I thought I wrote the whole song and I was like well this is a complete fabrication. This is not me. I wrote the whole song and I was kind of pleased with myself when I got finished. I'm like oh look at this I acted like a songwriter and it sounds like a song but a songwriter would make not Lou Barlow because this has nothing to do with me.
You know and then I recorded the song for myself and then I listened to it back and I realized it was exactly about me. Exactly about my situation and actually about my future. You know about it was about a change that I knew was occurring inside of me and a shift that was happening during this kind of a dark time. It was a tumultuous time.
Yeah you know it was a tumultuous time in my life did change pretty dramatically over the next six or seven years after this after I wrote this song. But I'll just play the song. I'm a little worked up. I know I'm worked up too.
It's hot. You're in this the only on air conditioned room in the house. And you're lucky that you're as far away as you are from me now because I am emanating. Do you sneak?
I'm wearing my pajamas and my sleeping hair style. Fun thing in your head. Adele's already showered. I was down upon my knees begging you to change your mind again.
You were tired of trying to love me and put yourself above me. You're trying to leave the pearl. I don't let go. That is until tonight.
Now I know there's a world outside our window. There's the mystery of this air. And if I can't make you happen. I will set this house on fire.
Listen now. I'm about to bring it down. Are we meant to be our last again? As I wait for your play.
Hear the traffic passing by. Tomorrow I'll be far away from here. I'll be far away. Outside I could make you.
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I woke up and started singing. Yeah. It's a good way. Ready for the two.
I've been playing that song before. The full conclusion. It sounds like it. Nice.
Yeah. I added a chorus to that because originally it was just two choruses. But I added one there because that's what real songwriters do. You don't settle.
There's not two choruses. You always. At least three. Yeah.
I had a big revelation when we were doing one part lullaby. I think I was like at Urban Outfitters or something. I was listening to the playing Hotel California. Maybe I was at Nordstrom.
Probably Nordstrom. I weren't playing the Eagles at Urban Outfitters. But I was like, wow, boy, the Eagles chorus after chorus after chorus. They really just they ring everything they can out of a song.
And I thought, well, you know what? That's what I need to do. Yeah. So I've tried to learn from that over the years.
And lately, yeah, three choruses. Nice. Definitely. So that was actually my real Nashville version of that song.
Yeah. That was the real Nashville version of that song. Pearl. I like that song.
I mean, I think that I'm okay with the name in that one. Yeah. I really stuck to the name. I've been changing it over the years because I think, you know, like lately, if you last, you know, in the last 10 years or since we met, I often just say girl.
Oh, yeah. Girl listen. I like that too. Sure.
But now I'm thinking, you know, maybe just the name. Stick with Pearl. I like Pearl. Yeah.
Pearl. Oh, Pearl will actually be a really cute kitty name. Kitty. Or like a kid.
I think I'm. Per cat. Meeting humans that are named Pearl is pretty exciting. Oh, that would be extraordinary.
I've never met a Pearl. I think I have. I've heard about it. It seems like I just feel like it's only grandma's right now, but it would be really cute to meet a little girl named Pearl.
Yeah. Anyone else is really cute? Hmm. Your name.
Adele. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Because before I was like, if I ever meet a girl named Pearl, I don't know.
That might be it. Just based on your name alone. But Adele's okay too. Yep.
There's a beautiful song by Bread, my favorite soft rock band called Aubrey. And the song is kind of about sort of, it seems to be about falling in love with a woman named Aubrey because do they say the name Aubrey in the song? Many times. Aubrey was her name.
See, that's where I get a little bit like tripped up, but yeah. I might say something controversial and that is that I don't like that song Roxanne. Oh, really? I know.
Sorry. I love the name Roxanne. I'm so tempted to start singing a terrible version of it right now. I'm gonna hold off.
Thank you actually because even just the beginning of that song, I feel Roxanne. The way that he sings it is slightly abrasive. I never punny you in millions of people like it. I'm one of the I'm sure I'm like the only person who doesn't like that song.
I doubt it. When millions of listeners, there's always going to be detractors among them. Ten people. Yeah.
I'm one of ten. I actually wanted to name my first child Roxanne. I love that. And you and I both love the name Roxanne.
Yep. Yeah. Because I love Roxie. Should I just go ahead and play this other song real quick and then we can talk about the things that you were wanting to talk about?
Okay. So the next song is called Easy. Okay. Yep.
So I'll do it again. Feel all right. The fight is over for now. I'm guilty feeling.
I've forgotten before. Three hours later, I'm hungry for more. And that's what I'm afraid of. Change when it's so easy.
And when gravity falls. That song took me years to finish. Oh my god. I started writing that song in the early 90s.
I started writing it around almost the same time as I wrote Skull. Oh wow. As evidenced by some demos that I uncovered in the last year. But oh, interesting.
If you find those demos again, you should put them as a paid on the sub-step. There's no vocals on the demos. That's still interesting. The riff was there.
Yeah. I could. I don't know. I guess I could do that.
Yeah. I think I've got it. If I haven't done it already. Sorry to tell.
Don't know. Don't remember. But yeah. So yeah.
When I finally finished it in the studio, we did this kind of beautiful version of it. Ahmad added this. I mean, actually both the songs Pearl and Easy were just beautifully fleshed out by Russ and Ahmad and our engineer, Aaron Espinosa, who went on to kind of take over Elie Smith's studio after Elie passed away. But um, and they really worked together and they made the most.
They really worked for me. I was in such a low spot and they really worked for me. Whoa. Whoa.
Oh man. Is that hold up? Hold up. Seriously.
Time to stop talking. Very many this mini music Monday, is it? That's okay. Takes a while to talk and explain some of this stuff.
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