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Oh! Is that the birds from our yard? It's the Cardinal. Nice!
Miracle miracle miracle miracle miracle! I love that! Cardinal is a very musical bird. It is, especially in our yard.
It's so busy! So sweet. I'm sure they're busy everywhere, not just our yard, but it feels nice looking at them. I haven't really seen one yet.
I've seen a few. I saw some little ones. I think they're babies. Babies.
Little baby cardinals. Little baby red cardinals. I don't know if people can hear this, but Izzy is well into her music. She's in her room, which is very close to where we are, and it's Saturday, and she's just doing her regular whaling away in her room.
She's quote unquote reading a book, and while she's reading... I don't know, making up a soundtrack. Cool. Yeah, the child is vocalizing often.
When she and I were together, alone without you, you were going for a couple of days, she and I were just yelling and singing all over the house. Separately, we were parallel playing because she was just so busy doing what she's doing now. I was working out a new song and singing at the top of my lungs. She does give permission to be as loud as you want.
She's just like, I'm loud. I'm singing. I'm loud. I will be repetitive.
I thought I could cool. It was like you were these interesting roommates that both went to the same performing arts school. So we were just sort of walking around yelling and experimenting with our voices together. I was loud.
It was fun to think of her as a kid doing a performing arts school. Who knows? Who knows? She went to cheerleading camp last week and loved it.
Loved it. It was cool. There was a lot of yelling involved. Oh yeah, she really seemed to like following all the rules.
There was a performance at the end of the week that Lou and I got to witness. It was quite special. It was. It was actually kind of my favorite one so far.
We've been to several of these performances as he goes to these dance classes and then they, but this one was kind of cool because it was just the kids yelling and responding to a tape or not a tape course, but responding to cues, booming out of the speakers at the side of the stage and yelling back, answering it and sort of jumping on top of each other. Doing cartwheels. Taking their legs in the air. As he's all about cartwheels right now.
There's a lot of pom-pom action. It was cool. It was really cute. It was, like I said, my favorite so far.
Yeah, we, you know, there's, yes, mine too. I really wasn't pressed. It's amazing with people with those kids through in one week. And they're like, okay, we're going to, we're going to take your kid for the week, put him in this cheer slash spirit week camp.
And then at the end of the week, when you pick him up, you're going to sit here for half an hour and we're going to perform for you. And they were really doing it up. Good for them. Jaduk, every one.
Jaduk, internist, boss. Jay, hi, comma. What do you call a hyphen? It's not a hyphen.
No, no, no, no, don't ask me about grammar. I have some song. Go dancing. Okay, I know.
This is why we're here. No, lead up. One, two, three, four. Bye with the new haircut.
That's a pretty nice haircut. Georgia, Tucker puzzle. I have been wearing muzzle. It's a pretty tight, a round, a round.
The second drummer, a round. He's telling what was wrong. He did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did. Look, he's crazy.
Hands her up like him every day. I saw another one just the other day. I don't remember lying. I don't remember a line.
I don't remember a word, but I don't care. Don't care. I really don't care. Did you see the drummer's hair?
Some chops and some songs. Yeah! I've seen a lot of when songs are mocked and so are you. Face right now to the practice room.
Attention and things are pervious, pervious, pervious, pervious, pervious, pervious. I completed that while I was in an hour together. That's impressive. That's impressive.
Now why would I go and cover a pavement song? Why not? My hair's really long and it needs to be cut. Yeah.
So I'm going to be... You're inspired. You're going to cut my hair. I am.
I am. I'm not personalizing the lyrics and saying, Adele's going to go win. Cut, not here. I am.
I'm psyched. It'll be fun to do. We're going to do it soon. But that seemed like a really fun cover.
It's so elaborately done. Like you really did it. Watch out, Stephen Malcomis. This could overtake.
It's only two minutes long still. It's under two minutes. I tried to get all of the parts of the song that I like, which is I like these little guitar parts, some of the guitar parts. I mean, I love the song.
I'm going to say we love pavement, right? Love the song. Yeah. You know, and pavement have a very, they have a kind of cool Instagram that I follow.
They went on to where in Australia and stuff and I've been really enjoying their Instagram because it's really lighthearted. It's so cute. I love how the band, I have to say like when I first saw them, when they were first touring really with Gary, young playing drums and they were, it was just this really kooky, beautiful little performance they did. It was a small place, you know, not too many people there were hip to their stuff at the time, but it was the beginning of the ascension of pavement.
So wait, were you on tour with pavement? Oh, no, no. You were just seeing them? I went to see them in my hometown.
I mean, I was living in Boston. Oh, you just were like, I'm going to go see everyone. I mean, all the cool kids went. Yeah.
What year was this? I don't know. Early 90s, right? Early 90s.
Yeah. And they were like smiling and which... Well, where did you see them play? At the Middle East, upstairs in Boston.
Okay. And it was a, you know, it kind of, it threatened me because they were smiling on stage and they did bring a really nice atmosphere with them, which I found very threatening because me coming from punk rock, I thought that the stage was a place to wage warfare with an audience and the employees of a club. That's what it felt like to me. That was my legacy.
That was what I brought was my sort of hardcore punk thing into my performances and what I did. I thought that you were meant to assault the audience and pavement did quite the opposite. Just to clarify, you don't hold those same beliefs now. Oh, absolutely not.
No. He's very lovely to all staff and audience now. My God. It's turned everyone.
It's totally turned. It is totally different. But pavement were sort of the beginning of this... Like, hey, we're nice.
Yeah, they were the beginning of this kind of sea change within independent music and sort of post hardcore music. And like teenage fan club, we're within that. I would say that even a band like Superchunk or like that as well. They brought this really nice thing to the stage.
And I of course, being my sort of angry self, I've been kicked out of Dinosaur Junior. I don't know if I was still bitching so extensively about my booting from Dinosaur Junior. But yeah, I brought a lot of contentious energy to the stage. Pavement did not.
It was a wonderful show. It's fun. And then they soon, of course, people... I was very jealous of them also because they would go, they would do things like doo doo doo or like they had a song called Summer Babe.
Which people... Not yet, they have. They really liked Summer Babe. And I was like, they're just doing la la la.
And I was like, that's cheating. You can't go la la la and doo doo doo. People love that. And I'm not doing it.
I was like, I'm here to suck all the air out of the room and make everyone uncomfortable. That was just my thing. It took a long time for that to go away. I brought like emotional, sort of this emotional, I wouldn't say terrorism necessarily, but I brought like a heavy vibe.
A cloud. A cloud. And I thought that's what I wanted. I'm here to do.
That's what I'm here to do. And pavement kind of, when they came in, when they breezed into town, it was great. And then Sabado did have the pleasure of pavement and Sabado both opened up for Sonic Youth for a tour in the early 90s through Europe. Oh, that's so fun.
Sonic Youth were quite successful at the time. They had a caterer. Yeah. Caterer food.
That felt special. Oh man, caterer food. So like we were just these two girls. Also too, you both of you guys opened up for Sonic Youth.
What a bill. How fun. It was great. We did, I don't know how many shows it was, but it was pretty awesome.
And pavement and Sabado, I don't know if I want to go as far as saying we bonded, but we definitely kind of understood each other. The bands had sort of complex dynamics, you know. And so there was that. Did you kind of soften your thoughts about like your threatened, did you feel less threatened after being on tour with them?
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I really like, I really enjoyed them. I really enjoyed their shows.
Gary Young was still in the band doing absolutely insane shit. I'm insane. He was like fairly older than the band. Looked crazy.
They looked like us. They were just kind of like early 90s, shlubby, not shlubby, but you know, we didn't have any real, there wasn't a real fashion sense. It's Northcore. It was Northcore before it was named that.
Yeah. And the whole guy, Bob Nastanovich, of course they still do because they, you know, these reunion shows, Bob Nastanovich, which was, he's just a beaming ray of sunshine that would stand on the side of the stage, hitting one siren, one symbol or something. And he kind of kept the band, the vibe of the band, grounded. He kept the band grounded as Gary Young went crazy.
And then also I think within the band too, something that I really related to was that they had a very complex dynamic. So I kind of, I related to how there were members of the band that maybe couldn't talk to each other freely and that maybe they didn't communicate as well. And I really related to that. We all just drank a lot of beer and Thurston and Kim and Sonic Youth really, really welcomed us and we really felt like we were just this little, I felt like we were just their little kid, their little kid brothers of Sonic Youth and they were so kind to us and we had, it was great.
So it's a very, it's one of my, a great memory I have. And of course it did, it did relieve me of any jealousy that I had of pavement and I truly wished them the best from there on out. Have you seen them now in other more recent years? I did.
I saw them in their very first reunion. They played, very first reunion kind of tour. They played at, uh, Dinosaur Junior played the same festival as them and Australia sort of out in the outback. I think it was called Golden Plains.
I'm not sure. They were wonderful. They were like, they seemed so much happier like this, this weight had been lifted from the band. So.
People say that about Dinosaur Junior too since they were young. But can else, I'll say this. Hopefully you'll allow me to say this, but when pavement played Jay after they played, this was awesome. Jay said, I don't know, man, they were smiling too much.
And I was like, it was so perfect because I tried to. That's up to you to decide whether or not that can stay in here. I think it's, I mean, because the first time I saw them, they smiled so much. They smiled so much and I was like, oh my God.
Garland, don't you go and cut your head. I think it's gonna make him change. Just a boy with a new haircut. And it's a pretty nice haircut.
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